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Jodera:
Lol... If with all my answers you still can't decipher what I mean, then it means you just no wan see am

But let me help you in simple clear words


You Don't Need To Win Any Trophy For Your Country For You To Be A Legend.

"3 or 4 maradonas" can be ranked above messi in terms of legendary status, but that doesn't stop messi from being an Argentine legend.

Now can you answer my questions

Name me any player who's a top scorer for his country and also won at least a world best or balon dor and he's not a legend?

I'm waiting biko

Then we disagree completely on the bold. That makes Messi a failure. So the Argentina people will look back at Messi era and he delivered an outstanding 0 major trophy. Is that success? Has the Messi era been a success for Argentina football?

TLona1:
The main crux of the argument is Messi being a legend in Argentina.

I've given quite a good number of achievements that show he's indeed a legend.

You are still not answering my question. You know I don't like unnecessary Shalayes. List what he has delivered that Makes him an Argentine legend when he is obviously an Argentine flop.

Jodera:
Messi is an Argentine flop cos he doesn't have any Intl trophy..

and so on and so forth.



To me, it's all just agenda-driven and nothin else

TLona1:
[s] In Argentina, after Maradona is Messi.

So Messi is not a legend because he's second to Maradona... lmao

Biased lot [/s]

Mr friend mention what he has delivered and don't bore me with your unnecessary Shalayes.

TLona1:
[s] Argentine Legend.

World Cup MVP
Copa America MVP (2×)
Olympics 2008 MVP + winner
U-17 World Cup MVP + Winner
Most goals for Argentina
Most assists for Argentina
World Cup and Copa America runner up.

But because Argentina hasn't won any trophy, he's not a Legend... lmao


If this isn't a legend in country level then you're just baised. [/s]

Help your friend jodera out what has Messi delivered for Argentina? List the trophies and don't mention me with olympic and u23 nonsense

Jodera:
you asked me like 3 questions, I don answer you. Yet I've asked you one, you no gree answer. It's even from my answers you're still asking me questions yet I humbly obliged you.

If you cannot answer my 1 question I asked then we cannot continue in this discussion. Cos last I checked na debate we dey debate no be interview I come do .

I don repeat my questions like 3 times now, please just answer it

What answer did you provide exactly? You have been beating around the Bush talking about Balon dor and what not.

I ask again what has Messi delivered for Argentina that makes him a Argentine legend?

Jodera:
Messi is an Argentine flop cos he doesn't have any Intl trophy..

and so on and so forth.



To me, it's all just agenda-driven and nothing else

Oasis007:


For delivering U20 Trophy and Olympic Gold Medals.

Bwhahahahah

Jodera:
Lol... You're the one twisting it to suit your narrative


1... I didn't compare messi to maradona or anybody. So you comparing aguero to maradona is just twisting narratives. Is Aguero highest goal scorer for his country? No. So why bring it up.

My question still remains.
Show me someone who is the country's highest goal scorer and has won at least a balon dor or world best and he's not a legend.


2.. Lemme set this straight. A player representing his club also represents his country. That's he's representing his country at a club level. That's why an Aubameyang can win Gabonese player of the year with Dortmund and a salah can win Egyptian/ Africa's best player with Liverpool even if he doesn't score for Egypt.

3... You saying messi isn't a legend is just like saying drogba isn't an African or ivory coast legend or Kanoute isn't a Mali legend cos they never won anything for their country. I'm sure you'll be among those who will say ballack is not a German legend cos he won nothing for the country.

4.. If you say maradona is greater than messi at national level, fine. But saying messi is not a legend... Fa fa fa, foull

1) I brought Aguero to show you Bringing Messi goal tally for Argentina here is meaningless. I asked you what has Messi delivered for Argentina and you jumped to he is their highest goal scorer. Is that what I asked you?


2) I asked you what Messi has delivered for Argentina so you bringing up Balon dor is also meaningless.

3)Now answer again how is Messi an Argentine legend? What has he delivered for them that makes him a legend rather than a flop?

4) Also irrelevant.

CapitalCee:
This guy is a dunce. Kroos is not in the class of Zidane, Roy Keane, Xavi, etc. So what is new there? I said i can't remember but i have remembered now. You must be a low mentality person i swear

Who are those?

Jodera:
He's the highest goal scorer for Argentina.
Tell me any player that's highest goal scorer for his country and winning world best (at least once) isn't considered a legend?

I deh wait

Aguero has more international goals than Maradonna. One is an Argentine greatest legend while the other is an Argentine flop so your highest goal scorer yarns won't fly here. What has Messi delivered for Argentina to be considered an Argentine legend

Jodera:
the world best and balon Dor covers both club and country or am I missing something here?

Elaborate how winning the Balon dor for performances with Barca make Messi an Argentine legend despite failing to deliver any single trophy for Argentina?

Jodera:
You can't be your country's highest goal scorer and multiple balon dor winner without being a legend.

Tell me any player that has such achievements and he isn't tagged a country's legend and I'll rest my case with you.

Did he win the Balon dor for Argentines or what am I missing? We are talking about Messi performance for Argentina. What has he delivered for his country Argentina to make him a legend?

Jodera:
Lol...
Name me 5 Argentine legends aside maradona

Don't switch the discussion. Messi is an Argentine legend for delivering what exactly for Argentina?

Jodera:
....Legend after Maradona

Argentina legend for delivering what for Argentina ?

Jodera:
Very very well.
Most people now solely depend on stats to know who's a better player or not.
Me, I only view better player(s) with eyes which to me is the best "stat-measuring" factor.

It is stats that made people say

Bruno is not a big game player cos he doesn't score or assist in big games

Bruno is better than Kdb

Messi is an Argentine flop cos he doesn't have any Intl trophy..

and so on and so forth.



To me, it's all just agenda-driven and nothing else

So Messi is an Argentine what if not a flop!

Ibeme:
Next time Fernandinho steps in and nothing spoil, mention me, so we know that City winning has nothing to do with Rodri.

But don't mention me to give Rodri credit for team performance until he match the 98 and 100 points Fernandinho took them to.

And what's my business with Fernadinho?

Ibeme:
A near 36 year old Fernandinho plugged in seamlessly and ran the show for City today but one bitter hater called Melvyn forgot to mention me.

Mention you for what exactly?

hensben:
His team is now more tactically discipline, unlike before where they are easily hit with counter attack. He adjusted after first season in epl.

Hensben did you forget about this

hensben:
People are waiting for this day when he will be appointed in epl to really access him. Minimum of four trophies? if he can conquer epl like he did in Spain I will be the first to hail him to high heaven.

hensben:
Pep adjusted his tactics if you don’t know, and also he overhauled the team. He ditched out that typical ball possession play.

He ditched it to what?

hensben:
Thats not how I put it but you can choose stick to your narrative. Nobody knew he will overhaul man city to win epl.

So how did you put it?

hensben:
Pep the overrated one go hear whin for epl with his attacking style.

hensben:
When we were telling you pep style of play will cost him in epl you think we don't know what we were saying huh. Remember I told you this; if pep want to play tiki taka in epl then his player should be ready to go arsenal way. Barca team then were meeting arsenal and Manure who play quality football because they are top team in epl. If only football governing body can allow that Barca team then to participate in epl players like iniesta, xavi and Messi will be nursing injury and without this players their dorminance wouldve been hurt then. This is what arsenal has been suffering over the years in epl.

As a team in epl, you can't be playing soft game with tiki taka and expect your players to remain fit, this is not possible in epl.

swiz123:
They will turn their amala towards how much he has spent

I know how to handle Amala turning experts very well.

hensben:
Was he the last winner of epl? How is he dominating? I like pep as a coach because he play the type of football I enjoy watching but his achievement is overrated sighting the manner in which he achieved them, that is my argument with you guys. Pep is enjoying luxury at man city. He has never coached a big club struggling before. He said chelsea need 10 new players before they can compete in epl, whereas Conte won epl wirh same set of players.

I didn't ask you about Chelsea or Conte or for Shalayes. Pep is on course for his 3rd title in 5yrs including breaking numerous records in the league you told us his style won't work in and how he can't use an escort to win the most competitive league in the universe. Have you accepted your L yet?

hensben:
He overhauled man city team and has spent the budget of some countries in Africa so what do you expect. Check man city net spend for update.

What do you have to say about Guardiola dominating and turning the most competitive league in the universe to a farmers league? He is even doing it with an escort as DM which some people told us won't be possible.

Hensben Guardiola is on course to win his 3rd premier league title . You told us it will never happen and Guardiola will struggle in the most competitive league in the Universe. What do you have to say?

I expect Guardiola to even win the league back to back again next year with the same Escort in Midfield.

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kendrick93:
An escort bought for over 50m...
What a privilege...

Don't quote a post if you don't understand it.

Ibime:
Mention me when he match Fernandinho points total. You are responsible for your own conclusions cos nobody said City can't win PL.

Once again I have no business with Fernadinho so that's your own business. All I care about is Guardiola winning the league with an escort as Dm.

Ibime:
So he has taken Man City backwards from Fernandinho who preceded him? Effect of replacing a solid DM with an escort.

So both teams under Rodri now and Fernadinho then are the Same?

Guardiola is about to win the league with an escort as Dm. That's an everlasting L.

airmark:
[s] Stop talking about local competition, we are waiting for UCL that Fraudiola came to win for City. [/s]

Why is this one replying me with a post from another moniker. Is my moniker raumdeteur?

Ibime:
In the words of Timbros, don't mention us till he matches the 97 or 99 points Fernandinho took them to. This is not the first time an escort will win EPL.

You are the one comparing Fernadinho to Rodri so that's not my business.

Man City 10points clear at the top. So Guardiola is going to win the toughest and most competitive league in the world where anybody can beat anybody with an Escort as Dm. Who would have thought it was possible.