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Fulaman198: Good post, a lot of these words do make sense too, it's kind of scary how many West African languages have Arab loan words. It is also a bit sad at the same time.

this just proves that the west african nations have arabs in themselves, just like the english have people who descend from french speakers within their nation

PAGAN 9JA:
are you telling me that this man Oduduwa went walking around the entire Africa and survived in those savage times

btw lamurudu is not an Arabic name. STOP LYING OK! I can speak fluent Arabic. there is no such name as lamurudu.

There is Abdullah ibn Qais, or Hind Al Hunnud, etc., but no "Lamurudu". what a bullsh!t quack.

oh and btw the Arabs followed an entirely different Pagan religion and their Chief Creator God was Allah and they had a different pantheon of dietites.

The Yoruba pantheon is different so stop following these useless senseless stories.

I doubt you speak arabic or ever lived with tribesmen except that you are an agent clearly on the site to do work for the queen tart in your homeland england. you been exposed afro-saxon. stop this non-sense. we comin for your idols and breakin up.
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PAGAN 9JA:
Hebrew are Northern Semitic, whereas most (pure) Arabs have origins from Qahtan in SOuthern Yemen , descended from Ancient Himyarite and Kindaite Civilizations, while the Adnanites have origins in Najd and are descended from the ANcient Nabatean Civilization. The Qahtanites spread after the fall of the Ma'arib Dam. Everyone knows that.


Kanuri claims of Yemen are bullsh!t. The Kanem Bornu were Pagans till 1100 AD and most were still so upto 500 years back.

They should go and look at their faces in the mirrors. Yemeni it seems. .

They are Chadic Sahelian and close to us Hausa peoples.

Man your breath is bulls%$t, and your wack a$$ stupid opinions. Them Kanuris will put your pagan wanna-be a$$ in a pinebox with your fake-a$$ idols, using them damn tubab terms "Chadic Sahelian ". Kanuri are children of Saif Dhu yazan and you're a tubaab toilet stool. P.s. we gon getchu and dem other sell out lil romans.


There were and are no indigenous blacks in the Middle East. Ive lived there for long. And I know the tribespeople there.
I can recite all their lineages with apt fluency.

The only blacks there are slave descendants from Zanzibar and Kenya in the East Coast of Trucail States and Oman.

THe rest are slaves from Sudan, etc., in Saudi Arabia.

PAGAN 9JA:
please SHUT UP and dont talk like a st.upid MUMU.

THERE IS ARAB BLOOD. THe Pure Arabs are Todays Bedu Tribal Arabs, mostly found in Central, Eastern , Southern Saudi Arabia, The Persian Gulf Arab States, and Yemen/Oman.

These are PURE ARABS and belong to different tribes like Shammar, Mutair, Bani Yas, Otaibah, Al Bu Shams, Rashidi, Banu Yam, Saar, Himyar,Bani Rifaeen (Yafa), Bani Kaab, Harith, etc.


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Rashidi Tribesman


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Tribesmen from Asir

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members of the Bani Yas Tribal Confderation

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Omani Tribesmen, possibly from the Duru Tribe.

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Rashaida Tribe

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PAGAN 9JA:
are you mad bro

what tribe is Yoruba if its Arab of Adnanite or Qahtanite origin? can you recite the names of your Arab ancestors

yoruba or ya'araba are ya'arab bin sanhaaja bin alhaafi bin qadha'a bin malik bin amru bin murra bin malik bin himyar bin saba bin yashjab bin y'arab bin qahtaan bin hud
as is professed by the illustrious imaam adam abdullah ilori yoruba are the ya'araba of west africa a branch of the ya'arab north of them , those who traveled from yemen and the hijaaz to the african continent before islaam or the sanhaaja berbers this is shown by historical, cultural, and linguistic witnesses . the tribe arrived in the present area in two migrations between the 8th and 10th century c.e.

هنالك نوع ثالث للفلاتة أثروا حياة المدن ولم يهتموا بلغتهم وهم اليوربا ، أو كما هو مشهور فى السودان عيال عيش، وهؤلاء من مناطق تلس وبرام وقريضة .
واليوربا مثال لهم المذيع إسلام صالح بيلو والمرحوم دكتور انس صالح بيلو، وهم فلاتة يوروبا كما ذكر لي والدي
There is a third type of fellata(fulani)who follows the city way of life and they never stressed their language , they are the yoruba or as they are famously called in the sudaan iyaal aich(people who live off of bread) they are in the talas biram and quraidh regions(darfur). An exmple of the yoruba is the islamic caller Salih bello and Doctor Anas Salih Bello. They are the yoruban fulani as my father told me.

https://www.facebook.com/FallataNews/posts/271417886316987

tpia@:
on the mecca legend, one has to find out what the composition or structure of ancient mecca was, in order to accept or disbelieve the account.

not necessarily because a migrate people of a place may or may not maintain there culture wholly as they did pre-migration.
example :
1.)japanese people are REPORTEDLY(just like the reports of yoruba being from mecca) descended from Chinese immigrants however the Japanese language is considered an isolate language having absolutely no relation with chinese at all.
2.)MOdern english is descendant of languages that include german, dutch, and frisian, however it is common knowledge that these languages are far away from each other when in usage.
you dont even have to travel that far away from the base people to see that people may or may not maintain cultural traits of their base family.
The composition of mecca during the time of lamurudu is the amaaliqa who existed also in kanaan,iraq,and egypt.
The composition of mecca during the time of islam is the quraish

Blyss: Humm, this is total crap, but going along with the issue at hand; the topic should read the Yoruba origins of the Arabs and not the other way around.

i know u should write a book called "Total Crap vs the Yoruba origins of Arabs "

tpia@:
yorubas are not arabs, however, there is definitely some ancient middle eastern input, same as with other west african tribes.

its too far back to be considered recent though.

yorubas are not arabs, however, there is definitely some ancient middle eastern input, same as with other west african tribes.

1. do u know what arab historians consider what an arab is?
2. ancient arab input meaning input how? and if there is an input then how are they not arabs. meaning the input will be preserved by the host but the input will never change its origins.

its too far back to be considered recent though.

that statement gotta bring some evidence against the yoruba scholar adam illori and the people who he got it from, other than that it holds no weight.

Ybutterfly: ^^^^^^^^^^^the yoruba's did not come from arab's but there has been a mix with yoruba's & hausa'a of the north of Nigeria, especially the muslims but still a minority though^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

^^^^^^^^^^^^you should check this out: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-774700.0.html

the yoruba's did not come from arab's

have to counter the evidence given by yoruba historians, until then im gonna go with cheikh adam abdullah illori a yoruba scholar muhammad bello a fulani scholar who interviewed the yoruba in his time

Rgp92: Yoruba's are 100% Africans. Ile ife is the cradle of West Africa civilization. Fvck you all.

i agree , and they even came before ghana, mali, and songhai

tothemax86: Eku bear and all the others saying there is no connection between yoruba and arabs, you make some valid points, however maybe we did not descend from the arabs but there is definitely links. My name is Ajala, and I have always wondered why Ajala is in the middle of Saudi Arabia, search on google for Ajala, Saudi Arabia

Eku bear and all the others saying there is no connection between yoruba and arabs, you make some valid points

man, u really really really really going to have to point those out to me , i mean like give me bullets or something because i didnt see one shred of anything remotely akin to points being made by the above mentioned fellowship.

however maybe we did not descend from the arabs but there is definitely links. My name is Ajala, and I have always wondered why Ajala is in the middle of Saudi Arabia, search on google for Ajala, Saudi Arabia

Why is london a latin word
why does Englisc(anglo-saxon english) have latin words in their vocab and they live on an island in north western europe far away from rome?
go to all yoruba historians and arab historians and fula and hausa historians to get the full story because the yaraba are not a black and white simple story. its deeper because as their own scholars say they migrated and left people in different spots , hence each remaining people will have a piece of fulfilling info. the yaraba in nigeria are not the sole keepers of the knowledge of the people. have you considered about the yaraba in north africa or the yaraba in sudan

eku_bear: Interesting:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fula_people

They don't look like Africans to me. . . they look kind of weird.  But I guess they legitimately natives of this continent.

i know africans look more like afrikaaners. those guys are hard down there

Jenifa_: There is no such thing as Yorubas having an Arabic origin.
we just had a leader (oduduwa) who probably migrated from Arabia that's all. besides that, Yoruba are indigenous although there is some mixing with fulani and hausa and such as you go further up north.

even the Fulani are supposedly also indigenous to Africa.

exactly and americans dont have british origins, how absurd. they just had a leader named george washington who was a offficer in the british army , thats all that is.

even the Fulani are supposedly also indigenous to Africa

people give away their unwillingness to research by their language with words like "supposedly"
u gonna have a hard time convincing the fulani of morocco,egypt, tunis, lybia, algeria, sudan, ethiopia and saudi arabia of that

grafikdon: Nwandoleesha. . . how dare you. . .   make you rub seven fingers for eyes o (hie asaa n'anya). . . I don warn you. . .


Pele looks  looks like Fela Anikulakpo. . . 

Busta Rymes looks like Molue tout. . .

Rhianna with her massive forehead looks like    I can't say (But she's beautiful sha)

Pele looks  looks like Fela Anikulakpo

Fela Anikulakpo
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/0hWSk-Gxikk/0.jpg
Pele
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Pele reminds me of a senegalese boy of Ghanian parentage
They dont look alike at all

becuz there are ppl in these forums and across africa that think they are not human

I am serious when i say , There are actually people who like this?

Alarabiya leyset sahla ala AL afarika

ما هو سهلا عليهم ولا الشمسُ ولا الحياةُ ولا رئيسُ جبارُ

There is an old book called  Al-Ansaab(Lineages) in which the oral yemeni traditions are captured in writing  by a writer called as-sahari  . he transcribes from the famous yemeni oral historian names ubaid bin shariya in which he explains the poem:
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ولقد بَلغْتَ مِنَ البلادِ مَبَالِغاً ,  ياذا المنار فمَنْ يُرُومُ لحاقكا
قُدْتَ الجيادَ فامعنت في برها ,  وحملت منها في السفين كذلكا
حتى وطي جمعاك حيث تثبتت ,  اولادُ حام في فضاء بلادكا
أوغلتَ عَبْداً فاستقر به النوى ,  حيث العجيب بغير خلق رجالكا
You had traversed the ultimate extent of all the lands         Oh Dhu Manaar so then, who desires to see your traces
You made ready the steeds for deep excursions of lands      and brought back goods in your sea vessels
Your routes were so extensive, even Ham's children            came to realize the far reaches of your territory(They were settled in the territories. Like the U.S. with homesteaders or British with Boers)
Abd pushed further inland founding aplace to settle    where there were a strange lot of creation(gorillas or monkeys)

the poem continues on
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فأتاك بالنسناس خلق وجوهم ,  في الصدر منهم قادهم لبنانكا
أنت القهُور فما نُزَامُ بِذلّة ,  نعم الخليفة في البلاد فعالكا
من ذا يُجَاري إن سَمْوت لحظَّةٍ ,  هيهات أعجزهم سُمُوّ سنائكا
جمعوا الملوك لما رأوا من كندة ,  كرما لحمير إذ عَلَتْ بعلائكا
You came upon monkeys, the likes of their faces                                            are in their chests(posture) You lead them with your fingertips(captured them)
You being strong, we never died groveling and humiliated                                surely the successor in the land was from your operations(maintained and left a good stable govt.)
So who is it that tries to follow(you) when you raised the bar                           Far away is their weak(from you)and your light is high in the sky
The Kinda kings(yemeni tribe) gathered when they saw                                    the gifts from Himyar(yemeni tribe) and they rose(in power) from your eminence

The Yemeni Orator Ubayd explains to AS-Sahari that :
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قال عبيد بن شربة: فسار أبرهة ذو المنار غازيا نحو الغرب ومعه ابنه العبد بن أبرهة على مقدمته، واستخلف على اليمن ابنه أفريقتش بن أبرهة، فسار حتى أوغل في البلاد، وبلغ بلاد السودان فقضى فيها برا وبحرا. فلما أمعن بَدَالَهُ في المقام فأقام وسّرح ابنه العبد في غرب الأرض حتى انتهى إلى بلاد النسناس، إلى قوم وجوهم في صدورهم، فإذا كان النهار استخفوا في الماء من حَرَّ الشمس، واذا كان الليل خرج بعضهم إلى بعض، فوضع فيهم السيف فأبادهم، ورجع إلى أبيه بنفر منهم فقدم بهم على أبيه فَذُعِر الناس منهم، فسمي العبد بذلك ذا الأذعار ولما رجع أبرهة من مسيره ذلك أمر بمنار قَبُنى له، وأوقد عليه ليُهْتَدى به، فسمى أبرهة بذلك ذا المنار. وقال في ذلك اليحموم بن مالك بن زيد بن المثاب بن عمرو ذي اُنس:
Abraha Dhul-Manar went out on a military expedition in a western direction(Africa) and he had with him his son Al-Abd bin Abraha, who was leading the expedition. He left behind in Yemen his son Ifriqish bin Abraha(from whom the continent Africa takes it name) to handle affairs. He traveled until they went to the extent of the land and scouted all of it. They reached the Sudan(Land from Ethiopia all the way to Senegal)He ruled in it by land and by sea. When he surveyed and scouted his commercial prospects in a place , he then settled there (for settlement-possibly Ethiopia hence the DNA distribution theory)and sent his son Al-Abd out to the western lands until he came to a land of monkeys and group where their faces are in their chests. They (monkeys or gorillas) went to the waters(rivers) when it was daytime to hide from the scorching sun and when it was night time they all came out and gathered together. He(Al-Abd) put the sword to them and ran them off and returned to his father with a group of them(gorillas). He presented them to his father  and the people became very frightened from them, so Al-Abd from that was named Dhul-Adthar(One who frightens). When Abraha returned from his travels, he summoned for a high landmark with a type of lamp or lighthouse and it was built for him and it was lighted for one to be guided by. Abraha because of that was named Dhul-Manar(one with light)

This narration is about Abraha the son of Raish of the mighty Raish kings who progenitor is named Al-harith bin sadad who is from the lineage of Saba
This makes me look at the witness of the jews who say:   
The sons of Cush: Seba, Havilah, Sabta, Raamah and Sabteca. The sons of Raamah: Sheba and Dedan.

or how Flavius Josephus says in his Antiquity of the Jews, book 8 chapter 6, that it was the "queen of Egypt and Ethiopia" who visited King Solomon

or how In Ethiopian Orthodox tradition, the third of these Shebas (Joktan's son) is considered the primary ancestor of the original Semitic component in their ethnogenesis, while Sabtah and Sabtecah, sons of Cush, are considered the ancestors of the Cushitic element


Link about the eredo wall in southern nigeria which is believed by locals to be Bilqis of the Quraan or Sheba of the bible who is from none other than Yemen
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/607382.stm

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DNA of an individual from ftdna.com
12 Marker Y-DNA Matches
Exact Matches
Country Your Matches Comment
Kenya              1           Kaba         
Nigeria       1                  Yoruba
Saudi Arabia     1                     -
Yemen       1                    -


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"Abstract

On the basis of a sample of 117 chromosomes, we have demonstrated the multicentric origin of the sickle mutation in Northern Oman. Three major haplotypes coexist: 52.1% Benin (typical and atypicals), 26.7% Arab-India, and 21.4% Bantu. These haplotypes are not autochthonous to Oman but originated elsewhere and arrived in Oman by gene flow. The distribution of haplotypes is in excellent agreement with the historical record, which establishes clear ancient contacts between Oman and sub-Sahara west Africa and explains the presence of the Benin haplotype; contacts with Iraq, Iran, present-day Pakistan, and India explain the presence of the Arab-India haplotype. More recent contacts with East Africa (Zanzibar/Mombasa) explain the presence of the Bantu haplotype. The pattern of the Arab-India haplotype in the populations of the Arabian peninsula reinforces the hypothesis that this particular mutation originated in the Harappa culture or in a nearby population and in addition reveals that the Sassanian Empire might have been the vehicle by which this Indo-European sickle mutation migrated (gene flow) to the present-day Arabian peninsula, including Oman."

Read more: http://savethetruearabs.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=59#ixzz1Vez9qBAD

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Shaikh Adam Abdellah Al Illori says that the Yoruba of "West Africa" are a branch of the descendants of Ya'arub found in "North Africa" who separated from the descendants of Ya'arub in the Yemen and Hijaz. Shaikh Adam Abdellah Al Illori is from the Yoruba tribe.

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Tuareg r actually white/wheatish complextioned lyk d 3rd pic above. but sum eventually tan/become black.

these are just some of teh colors of tuareg. there are jet black tuareg too. the white ones are from a result of mixing with the nothern populations. the white berbers are berberized people made up of afranja, vandals, goths, romans, and greeks. this is y the berber guy in the blog said that they resemble spaniards and other meds. i lived in morocco and have peoples back there. I cant speak for every group but being berber in morocco is not a real big deal like it is portrayed in  the western countries. most of the berber activist are from europe and are paid by france. tuareg are not even considered berber by the more northern populations. the tuareg of mali do not claim berber identification look:
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The Tuaregs
The Tuaregs are nomadic people and desert dwellers. The tuareg are either Messufa, Lamtuna, or Judaala, they traced their ancestry back to the Sanhaja. The Sanhaja trace their lineage back to the Himyar who are people of Southern Arabia. They, however, lived among the Berbers before crossing the Sahara and settling in West Africa. They are the founders of the city of Timbuktu. They contributed scholarly and commercially to the legacy of Timbuktu. Today, the tuareg live in Mali and Niger.

https://www.travel-images.com/pht/mali28.jpg

The Fulani
The Fulani are nomadic people. They are well-known for their herds of cattle. They are astute merchants and excellent Islamic scholars. The Fulani, the Tuareg and Arabs have been instrumental in spreading Islam in West Africa. They are nation builders and ruled over the Futa Jallon and Futa Tora. Under the leadership of Shayk Ahmadu, they formed the caliphate of Massina. In the 18th century, the famous fulani scholar and warrior Uthman Dan Fudio founded the Sokoto caliphate in northern Nigeria. The fulani produced most of the eminent scholars of Jenne and Massina. According to the manuscript number 43 of Ahmed Baba Center in Timbuktu, the fulani trace their lineage back to the Koraysh of Mecca through Oqba ibn Yasir who married a fulani princess of Futa Toro by the name of Madeumaa. From this marriage she had four boys. They are the ancestors of the Fulani tribes: these are the Diallo, Dicko, Sangare, Balde' or Ba, Barry and Diakite. Today, the Fulani are mainly in West Africa.

https://www.bergstresserimages.com/photogallery/_Niger-Guerewol_Fulani_Man_under_Camel.jpg
songhai
The Tarikh Al-Fattash says:

"The grandfather of Sughai (Songhai), the grandfather of Wakare (Mandingo), and the grandfather of the Wankara (Mandingo also) were brothers. Their father was a king from the Yemen whose name was Taras (Baras) the son of Haroun.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e4/Songhai_man-Gao.jpg/280px-Songhai_man-Gao.jpg

A man from the known arabs of mali from the kounta tribe. the same tribe to whom kunta kinte is related
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Cheikh Bouh Mouhamed Kounta of the kounta lineage
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[size=14pt]somebody got caught with their guard down. dont worry pagan pick your jaw up off the floor lol 
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wow now your talkin about fetishes. I just hate for weirdos to claim hausa when they are majority Muslim and you are trying to make up a group called pagan-hausa. You might as well go to the klu klux klan and say that you are a black klansman.https://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e357/lilmama5848/MOISDEADSERIOUS/claytonbigsby-1.jpg

what makes you think i am a Hausa?

i am Hausa, but ofcourse non-muslim

stop claiming hausa man. most hausa are muslim not pagan. if u dont fit in the domiant group then stop claiming them just because u speak the language. u dont c AA's saying they are white because they speak english. u r maguzuwa simple. leave hausa to muslims