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The sheeples are made poor so that the pastors may be made rich in all things.

JackBizzle:
Inception

Exactly.

Meaning this life we live in waking is a level in the dream, to die here is just a kick to wake up, back to the surface.

Sarassin:
You can buy these online at various sources.
With my apologies to the OP i am not trying to derail the discussion.

Apologies unnecessary, as long as you are contributing info to the unfolding of the third eye.

If you found a binaural sound that worked for you, you can share the site.

Babacele:
Menxer why do we need to open our third eye when we have not disciplined the naked to see the physical in its entirety? Is seeing the aura of all things to reveal their true state not within wavelength of the normal vision?

I don't think you will get to a full bloom third eye without the ability to see aura and other physical phenomenona not developed.

To see the true state of reality in its entirety entails all three eyes working in sync.

But then, your question sounds like: why do we bother going to heaven when we have not colonized Mars?

lagostokd:
Your ignorance is extraordinary!

The God of heaven and earth whose name is Yahweh is not a tribal God!

God was speaking in Psalms 87:4-6

“I will record Rahab and Babylon among those who acknowledge me— Philistia too, and Tyre, along with Cush — and will say, ‘This one was born in Zion.’ ” Indeed, of Zion it will be said, “This one and that one were born in her, and the Most High himself will establish her.” The LORD will write in the register of the peoples: “This one was born in Zion.”

Rahab, Babylon, Philistia, Tyre, and Cush mentioned in the above passage were not Israelites.

The word 'Israel' has three primary layers of meanings:

1. The Jewish people
2. The land/nation of Israel
3. God's covenant family

Not all Israel (Jewish people) are Israel (God's covenant family - the saved). See Romans 9:6

Every man saved by the blood of Jesus no matter the tribe or color belongs to the Israel of God!

To your second question; the answer lies on the mount of transfiguration in Mathew 17: 1-5

After six days Jesus took with him Peter, James and John the brother of James, and led them up a high mountain by themselves. There he was transfigured before them. His face shone like the sun, and his clothes became as white as the light. Just then there appeared before them Moses and Elijah, talking with Jesus.

Peter said to Jesus, “Lord, it is good for us to be here. If you wish, I will put up three shelters—one for you, one for Moses and one for Elijah.”

While he was still speaking, a bright cloud covered them, and a voice from the cloud said, “This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased. Listen to him!”

To answer your other question, read this

Mathew 19:3 - 9

Some Pharisees came to him to test him. They asked, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any and every reason?”

“Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’ and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’? So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”

“Why then,” they asked, “did Moses command that a man give his wife a certificate of divorce and send her away?”

Jesus replied, “Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.”

Now, to your last post

The prophet of Islam, Mohammed has no ties with Yahweh! Infact, his message is directly against 'the people of the book' i.e. the followers of Yahweh - the Israel of God.

Mohammed never knew Yahweh because his works are against the works of Jesus

Consider the passage in Mathew 11: 27 “All things have been committed to me by my Father. No one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.

The Son (Jesus Christ) never revealed the Father to Mohammed!

To have a biblical clue to the message of Mohammed, read Galatians 1:8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse!

Mohammed preached a gospel other than the one preached in the New Testament so the above passage is against him

Jesus prophesied about Islam in John 16:2 They will put you out of the synagogue; in fact, the time is coming when anyone who kills you will think they are offering a service to God.

Mohammed taught Muslims that killing kafirs (Christians) is an offering to Allah which is a fulfillment of Jesus' prophecy in John 16:2


Allah is the God of Mohammed and his followers - the god of Jihad, violence, Sharia, No mercy; Allah is a god that sees the Jews and Christians as the enemy forever

Yahweh is the God of heaven and earth - the God who forgave the adulterous woman; he made the thieve on the cross to enter into paradise; he healed the sick, opened the blind eyes, met the needs of a widow in drought; brought salvation to mankind no matter the sin, tribe or color; loves the sinner but hates sin.

He loves the atheist, the homosexuals, and the prostitutes. He loves Muslims, Buddhist, and every one.

He wants all to come to repentance and be delivered from the coming destruction.

Just believe in the name of Jesus and be saved

this long sermon just to show how ignorant a person is?

You end up affirming what you set out to refute: Yahweh is the God of the people that followed Moses, of the tribe of Israel and Allah is the God of the people that followed Mohammed, of the Quraysh tribe.

If you check the world over, all tribes have their own Supreme God.

Where and how does the Mayans, Aztec, Sumerians, Atlantians, lemurians and their Supreme Gods fit in all these?

Don't marry a lady with a child If you can predict precisely what that child will become in future.

johnw74:
duh, ha ha, of course i'm not at all suprised that you cannot interperit
such plain and straight forward scripture, and yet you do it anyway, wrongly

Jesus strength is made perfect in weakness, in our weakness

on the road to demascus paul received affliction, not just tempory blindness
but something he referred to as a thorn in the flesh
paul asked the lord to remove it, and Jesus said that He can strengthen-perfect paul in his weakness,
not in Jesus weakness, but in pauls weakness

it's amazing that you have no understanding of such plain verses
and you wrongly misuse God's word anyway

(2Co 12:7)  And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure.
(2Co 12:8]  For this thing I besought the Lord thrice, that it might depart from me.
(2Co 12:9)  And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.
(2Co 12:10)  Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in necessities, in persecutions, in distresses for Christ's sake: for when I am weak, then am I strong.

and exactly according to the scripture i posted, whereas
you exalt yourself in false knowledge of false beliefs, in
opposition to God's word

but as i said, your mind filters out the fineness of good and retains the bulk of evil

see how your brain is a sieve, just like i told you,

i have to repeat things for you, and you still cannot see,
so much for your supposed third eye of darkness

your new age sayings are as phony as you are, that's what comes from following
only men and not God's word

You are correct as far as the level of awareness you are presently at is concerned.

@bolded, you are invariably saying Paul was not completely healed by Jesus?

I don't expect a pupil still studying algebra to understand gematria.

Pikin wey say him mama no go sleep, I wonder how him want take sleep.

As for those drawing comparison with agitation in other countries, the question is, why can't we follow their method by taking the fight to the floors of the National Assembly?

johnw74:
I need to point out that although i have no interest in the fantasy third eye theory
i do like to put right, wrong Bible interpretation, i point that out again because you both have minds like sieves
where the fineness of good passes through and the bulk of evil is retained

Jesus saying: "My strength is made perfect in weakness"
has of course nothing to do with a supposed third eye theory
but it is only when we are weak that we look to Jesus for strength

[color=#808080]2Co 12:9[/color]  And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness.

@bolded, Would you mind telling us the weakness Jesus had?

You keep castigating others, but have not offered any interpretation of how you understand the scriptures, how it fits into your life.

Your understanding as you rightly agreed is wanting in many areas and levels. It is not everything that is retained in a sieve in unwanted, somethings are filtered to remove the unwanted and retain the wanted in the sieve.

The whole of scripture is a reflection of you as Consciousness and the manifestation you desire.

mmachi96:
My dear, you need to read more about sickle cell anaemia and stop typing nonsense.

Would you be kind enough to point out the nonsense in that comment of mine?

Babacele:
menxer before this thread was derailed, I was saying that it is not wise and edifying that anybody, including you and I except the prepared, should have their third eye disturbed in the name of opening it for very few experienced men can. Why? Discipline.

It is true that certain chemicals we use unknowingly or deliberately affect certain organs in the body like the pineal which affects the optimal performance of the person as God intends originally. For example , how many have their sl still small voice functioning well or even listen to it and allow this intuition to guide them?

Man has more than 6 senses but he has been deliberately misinformed by the 5 sense advocates that his ability is only limited to the 5 organs. Benthoveen the great composer should not have been able to compose some of the best works in classical music for his hearing was bad. So how did he hear the wonderful works he gave to the world?

The question then is what is the criteria for ascertaining who is disciplined enough to open the third eye?

I think, it is a gradual process.
we were not born with our third eyes blind. Just as new born baby don't just open the normal eyes and start seeing and identifying objects but over time is used to the light of day, so also with the third eye, if our parents didn't tell us to stop talking nonsense when we, during toddlerhood, said we have playmates they can't see.

But then as adults the reopening of the third eye won't be like flinging a door open, which may certainly create a mental shock, but Just like a door that's been shut for decades, the hinges would need a little oiling and gentle rocking to ease it open.

As for the the number of senses we have, you are right.
Beethoven even refused to be treated for his ear problems preferring to be deaf so as to concentrate more, according to him, and composed his best classical music during those years, which is in line with the Bible verse that said, "... My strength is made perfect in weakness."

Another question to whom it may concern: how do we see in our dreams?

johnw74:
now you are agreeing with me that i don't understand everything in full
while the reason i said that is because you said i am full of understanding


see the continual confusion in you, your supposed third eye is blinded
due to your hating and not believing God and His word:

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

^^^ true but not full

and of course you cannot see much at all

You are stuck in a vicious cycle of hypocritical reasoning, you say you don't have full understanding yet you keep condemning another person. Maybe that makes you feel good about yourself.

"The Truth Will Set You Free, But First It Will Piss You Off."

"show of force" parade is not a new thing, in Uyo towards the last general election, it was a regular, almost daily sight, and is still done once in a while.

Babacele:
I'm not going to educate anybody ....except the ready.

I understand that, for: "When the ears of the student are ready to hear, then cometh lips to fill them with Wisdom." — The Kybalion.

johnw74:
@bold, no you cannot see, that's what i have been pointing out to you, and again you cannot see that i was doing that
@underline, you are wrong again, "full" means completely, and i don't completely understand, not yet

@bolded, That is absolutely true.
what then gives you the right to undermine another person that is trying to understand how the pineal gland works in relation to spiritual growth?

johnw74:
@bold, truly you don't, you have very little understanding

@underline, you see confusion-twisting where there is none, that's your supposed third eye for you

I can see you are full of understanding as reflected in your comments.

I understand your type of person...

My comments are there for all to read, no matter how you want to twist it.

johnw74:
your first post to me in a while and of course it's a lie

your interperation of Mat 10:16 was that wise as serpents was referring to satan
becaus in genesis the serpent is said to be the wisest of beings
and you said: "why would the Bible, in another place, admonish us to be as wise as the Serpent"

well the Bible doesn't admonish us to be wise as "the" serpent
Jesus said to be "wise as serpents"

[color=#808080]Mat 10:16[/color] Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.

and in your confusion and lies you go from "the serpent" to "the third eye"

NPComplete:
So how do u explain the lack of consensus?
Here we have two guys I respect a lot Sarassin and Billyonaire but both can't seem to agree on what's what. Or the basic tenets of esoterica.
So are we to believe they are both right or they are both wrong?

As a deist, I am a bit inclined to believe the universe is undergirded by certain laws that, when properly studied or understood, could produce supposed supernatural effects. But as a skeptic, I ask myself if any of these practioners can withstand scrutiny.

If we subject them to the same inquiry that we have made of Abrahamic religions, what will we find? It is easy for anyone to come online and make claims or debunk other people's claims; anyone can claim his own esoteric way is the right way and explain it away with bombast, the psychological effect is just too alluring, but can any of them really prove these things?
Can they astra project and tell us, with proof, what otherwise impossible knowledge they were able to glean? Can they really "smoke" someone, like LoJ claimed to be able to do and statistically be right?

I seek knowledge and such knowledge should be well tested and proven for me to believe it. And I think our common apathy towards organize religions make us less likely to dispute what these fringe religions or practices preach.
Trust me, the day any of these guys are able to really show me they can do the things they claim, I will be the first to start following their prescribed method.
We must push them to prove themselves and things like "ignore scoffers" make them look like the organise religion they abhor.

Everything must be questioned and proved.

The thing is, we question the proofs provided by others untill we prove it for ourselves, then our questioning in that regard ends but others starts questioning what we claim to prove to ourselves.

butterflylion:
Oh they surely are

Rejection of God is simply Satanism in its purest form. Consider these comments by the OP and how the atheists are all drooling over it.

You can see the atheists making comments like "great respect " to the OP or "Great thread" or "So sweet"

This thread should be calledTHE GATHERING OF THE DAMNED!

@bolded, surprisingly you are on the DAMNED thread.

I maintain my stance here as elsewhere, that we are all atheists, for there is an aspect of the divine we don't believe in probably because we don't understand or don't want to understand.

As for the OP, the words of Ecclesiastes 7:16-17 comes to mind.

Listener07:
Really? Am I supposed to know how God revealed the prophecy to him? Unfortunately I have lost contact with him else I would have asked him.

That's just too bad.
Then the essence of this thread is defeated since you for one doesn't know God enough to know how he reveals things to people.
Smh

Babacele:
ask them to explain why God created the ' tree of good and evil' in the first place. Didn't an all knowing God see that man would be deceived by the serpent? Where did subtleties of the serpent come from when everything that God created was good?

How would they know that when it is not in the bible?
Since I already know, I won't bother with that except for the sake of argument.

johnw74:
you say you were referring to all forms of snakes and dragons, and yet you wrote: "the" serpent

which menxer described as satan, and in the very same sentence you ask me to tell you from the Bible evidences of the serpent's wise exploits and precedence that would have Christ conferred wisdom to it

so concerning mat 10:16 you say you were referring to snakes and dragons as being wise
then in the same sentence you ask a question implying that serpents are not wise

your post is confused, but agreeing with menxer at times and mixing third eye sect beliefs with the Bible will do that


[color=#808080]Mat 10:16[/color] Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.

menxer said serpents in that verse is satan
you baba said we are to be wise like "the" serpent(satan)

Jesus would not use satan to tell anyone who to be like
He would have better said: be wise like solomom
but He used animal life to make His point: snakes, doves, sheep and wolves
by the way, Jesus was not talking about the Holy Spirit when He mentioned doves

wise like serpents harmless like doves are sayings
serpents have always been an emblem of wisdom and cunning
just as doves are said to be gentle and harmless, in the wild they are no different to sparrows or pigeons

they are just common sayings
a snake isn't more wise than many animals, but they are wise enough like many animals though, to get out of the way of humans etc.

@bolded, that tells a lot about your brand of Christianity, saying what I did not say so as to force me to respond.
Where did I say that? Or you are having trouble understanding Basic use of English?

This is why I said arguing with you is a waste of energy.

Listener07:
Can you throw more light on this


I already did.

Nope.
You only said, "God revealed to him," That does not explain the process or mechanism of the revealing.
how did God reveal to him?

Listener07:
I am not talking about outcome, I just wanna know how the man of God got his prophecy. Simple question.

To know how he got his prophecy, you must understand how the pineal gland works.

Besides, it is your place to tell us how he got his prophecy.

Babacele:
just do your own research. start from Genesis in the Bible an allegory Moses copied. ....

ask questions.

I know that.
Just that when discussing with some people shoving too much true info that contradicts what they know or believe may overwhelm them and make them too defensive to make the discourse interesting.

We are all atheists, for there is an aspect of the divine we don't believe in, probably because we don't understand or don't want to understand it.

Science has proven using the double slit experiment that consciousness alters the outcome of an event.
If we should apply that to real life situations as in the case of OP, it fits.

There is a saying, "energy flows where attention goes."
If you call that energy "God" and your attention is focused on achieving a certain thing that is where the energy will flow to, to manifest that thing.

xcolanto:
Stop posting rubbish that you know little or nothing off... You can only deceive your third eye likes and yourself but you cannot succeeded with that on me. Get thee behind me!

I am not trying to convince you of anything, but to be a bit inquisitive enough to peek over the wall of what you already know.

If Jesus didn't confront the fear of the Cross, we wouldn't be claiming Christians today.

Don't let fear of the Unknown box you in a comfort zone.

xcolanto:
Nice one johnw74.... Big ups to you on this thread! For darkness can never comprehend light!!
Bless..

You are right, for the darkness of ignorance cannot comprehend the glorious light that the third eye sees.

Empiree:
and I hope you truly do. I can guarantee you that you will end up becoming muslim. Because what you will see in the original christian manuscript is Islam. This is fact. Some pastors reverted to Islam bcus of that.

If it that happens to be the case I won't have any regret reading it in the original format.

I think he is right for once, if we were to study Hebrew to read the scriptures in its original format, all this issue of mistranslation causing confusion would have been none existent.

mrvitalis:
So let's assume the nazi's God commanded them. . So that ends it

A God that can't even fight mortals is who u worship

Israelis just use the imaginary God as an excuse

If i tell u GOD asked me to kill u how will u react??

I raised similar questions, but trust our way of reasoning.

https://www.nairaland.com/3982890/thou-shall-not-kill

I merely reacted to it like millions of other Nigerians did. She should clean up her stinking mess

I no fit laugh, so FFK has finally accepted he is suffering from herd mentality?

What now differentiates him from the rest of the herd?
I thought he has a head.

Being rash with words is not a mark of statesmanship.