johnw74: ooh, how you hate God's word: Rev_20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
duh, by thought, from God's mind to theirs of course, you know nothing at all
for about the third time, i am not interested in your pineal gland discussion, just in God's word, and when you purposefully change what God said
your memory man, it's like a sieve, to much confusion in your mind is the trouble, as well as having a blinded third eye: 2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
ha ha, you would need to know something to be dragged down to a lower level than you already are
Shouting (highlighting) needlessly is an immature way to make your point heard.
@underlined, so all these insults from you is what God thought about and sent to your mind? I asked you the mechanism of how inspiration is recieved, you say it's by thought. SMH
@bolded, so you acknowledge there is something called a third eye that can be blinded? You are coming around.
I know Some things can be paradigm shattering and will take a lot of effort and time to adjust.
johnw74: all of your laughing, you are again on the verge of hysteria
and you are still throwing back in lies what i say in truth, of course, but what else can you do
i added more info for your non knowing third eye:
you obviously don't know the diffrence between religion and God's word
i have not been talking about religion(a belief in God), i have been defending the word of God-the Bible(God's instructions for mankind) against your malicious mocking of the same
your confusion is getting worse, but that's understandable opposing God as you do
yes that's what i was saying, you cannot assess(determine) reality
no, as shown you cannot access(approach) reality without knowing it, you access third eye confusion
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OK, word of God defender, how did the writers of the Bible receive the inspiration?
Don't just say by the Holy spirit, explain to this forum the mechanism through which that inspiration was communicated to man.
I took time to review our comments so far, you have not made any meaningful contribution in defense of your position that the pineal gland (third eye) plays no role in spiritual enlightenment.
You keep regurgitating the same meaningless lines or quote scriptures which you know not how it was inspired, even when I raise a different point to buttress my position.
Oh! you added more info after checking up on the difference between access and assess, good for you.
You are trying too hard to drag me down to your level of awareness but it is not working.
johnw74: observing the experience that your confused third eye is causing you is plenty to convince me that your third eye is as non knowing as your mind is in assessing reality
Laughs.
You are so entertaining.
And what do you have to show that you are better off without a blooming pineal gland, Putting down others in your quest to uphold and defend the status quo of religion? Maybe that's your mission in life.
Just imagine if Jesus was defending the status quo of the religion of his day would you be here calling me names, in defense of a religion?
Use sodium bicarbonate (not baking powder, you can get it anywhere cake making items are sold) instead of soda soap, don't why you would use that to brush your mouth.
That works, too!
I picked up the soap idea from a STAN SOLOMON, who was feeding us good information on TALK RADIO, during the 1990s.
Soda Soap is handy- and it gets the job done. It's cheap, too.
I did myself a mortal mischief confusing Baking POWDER with Baking SODA- I'm not sure I can even find Baking Soda to buy.
BAKING POWDER can kill.
Thanks for your contribution, I didn't know that about soda soap, and the wider implications of flouride on our health.
It is not everything in life that is measured in Naira and Kobo.
The world around us is a reflection of the world within us.
For instance, some ladies are married to their dream guys and you wonder how they did it? when you check those ladies are easy going, from average families living average lives, but with a mental attitude we don't know about.
ambassagod post=60206874: Sorry, you didn't get it all right. You missed verse 10
9) But, on the contrary, as the Scripture says, What eye has not seen and ear has not heard and has not entered into the heart of man, [all that] God has prepared (made and keeps ready) for those who love Him [[e]who hold Him in affectionate reverence, promptly obeying Him and gratefully recognizing the benefits He has bestowed].
10) YET TO US GOD HAS UNVEILED AND REVEALED THEM by and through His Spirit, for the [Holy] Spirit searches diligently, exploring and examining everything, even sounding the profound and bottomless things of God [the [f]divine counsels and things hidden and beyond man's scrutiny].
i highlighted menxer's sentence in bold to show what i am replying to
menxer claimed: "For there is no reward to be compared to that bestowed by a blooming pineal gland."
i replied: "so you wrongly believe, but God's reward is far far greater:
1Co 2:9 But as Scripture says: "No eye has seen, no ear has heard, and no mind has imagined the things that God has prepared for those who love him."
perhaps you ambassa may also believe that there is no reward to be compared to that bestowed by a blooming pineal gland but i believe God's word that: No eye has seen, no ear has heard, and no mind has imagined the things that God has prepared for those who love him.
verse 10 doesn't change anything of what i said verse 10 and other surrounding verses shows that Christians can begin to have those things prepared for us by God now, such as knowledge and wisdom through the Holy Spirit, i don't think we can take much credit for that The human spirit in a Christian searches the things of God, and God's spirit can reveal much to us, even in this life
Sorry, i believe i did get it all right
Let me reiterate, there is no way any man alive in a body of flesh and blood can access what verse 9 of the above quoted scripture talks about without having his pineal gland in bloom, which is what verse 10 is trying to explain.
And what if what the ancient's referred to as the spirit of God in man, is what we now refer to as DMT, which is technically the same, as both help man access the unmanifest reality?
johnw74: menxer, because you hate the truth of God's word, you have been blinded to the light
2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
it's the delusional-nutsoism of the third eye sect
johnw74: it's obviouse from this that you are not passionate about God or Heaven and it shows, yet you use God's word which you know nothing about, to try and foster your unbibical belief
Your contributions are invaluable. Thanks and keep it up.
I would not trust a "SCIENTIST" to tell me how many times men have landed on the MOON, (answer = ZERO!) I'm doing to trust them to tel me HOW MY SOUL WORKS? The Soul they say DOESN'T EXIST? L. Ron Hubbard's SCIENTOLOGY- with its TENS OF THOUSANDS of SWORN TESTIMONIES from persons who experienced the results of processing, by 1956, surely went some way toward forcing Scientists to agree that WUNDTIAN PSYCHOLOGY, stating that MAN is just another ANIMAL, having NO SOUL, might not be the Final Answer.
[See: THE FUNDAMENTALS OF THOUGHT, by L. Ron Hubbard.)
What about those whose PINEAL gland is DAMAGED or AMPUTATED?
Does that mean they can't have Spiritual Experiences- that they cannot SEE?
What about THE DEAD?
EVERY SINGLE ORGAN IN THEIR BODY IS DEAD- not just their PINEAL GLAND! Does that mean that they are BLIND, DEAF, and DUMB in the AfterLife?
Oyinbos can be very clever; but that does not mean that when they stop using their brains, we must also stop using ours!
You believe that?
Do you really trust this same Science that says that these "STATES OF REALITY" perceived are something they call "HALLUCINATIONS?"
MY advice is that you NEVER do ANY kind of Drug!
FLUORIDE is a Depressant Drug. It was reportedly used in the World War II NAZI CONCENTRATION CAMPS to keep the Prisoners docile.
(This does not prove that the HOLOCAUST was REAL, though!)
Our ability to SEE should not depend upon being free from Drugs- although that is a big step forward.
I was using DABUR "Herbal" Toothpaste, and one day, I noticed the label saying that they used FLUORIDE in it.
I stopped using it, and instead used common white SODA SOAP to brush my teeth.
Without changing anything else in my diet, IN ONE MONTH, I TURNED UP WITH HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE.
To me, that PROVES that even TOOTHPASTE FLUORIDE has a DEPRESSANT effect on the body.
Whereas it was keeping my Blood Pressure low, who knows what else it was doing? That's right- it HAS to be a SPIRITUAL DEPRESSANT, too!
Science is not the name of a person. You just quoted one scientist when many others and researchers are confirming the role of pineal gland in experiencing other states of reality.
@bolded, that alone is enough to justify my position.
Use sodium bicarbonate (not baking powder, you can get it anywhere cake making items are sold) instead of soda soap, don't why you would use that to brush your mouth.
richidinho: Akpabio is all we know in that state and there is absolutely nothing you can do about that
You are absolutely correct, You know Akpabio but know nothing about the abandoned projects, but others Know Akpabio and the abandoned projects Udom is yet to do anything about.
richidinho: Bro! Save your strength, don't just mind them, a state that hardly welcome up to 500 visitors in a month before Akpabio's era, they have forgotten that there was a Governor before Akpabio
Inibeghe or whatever is his name shld get ready to contest as governor in 2019 let's see how popular he is, nonsense!
Udom has 8yrs to govern the state, we are not disappointed in him, he is doing very well
Bringing people to the state during matches in the stadium is a very good way to market the state and show to the world that we are peaceful people, that alone can attract Foreign direct investments to the state
That's not correct, there was a Governor before Akpabio, that conceived and built the Le Meridian, Airport (still uncompleted), invested in and brought Airtel (then Econet with a call center in Uyo), built a palm oil refinery in Ukanafun (which his successors shut down), etc.
There are companies in the state that should be revived like Peacock paint, Quality Ceramics, which are state owned, but no vain glory is better.
Which foreign investors are you talking about, when Gov Udom is planning on building a 21 storey edifice to host foreign investors in Lagos state?
From your comments you are a theologian (modern day pharisee/sadduccee), and I AM talking spirituality which is not an academic exercise but an experiential reality.
johnw74: [color=#808080]Mat 6:19[/color] Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal: [color=#808080]Mat 6:20[/color] But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal: [color=#808080]Mat 6:21[/color] For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. [color=#808080]Mat 6:22[/color] The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light. [color=#808080]Mat 6:23[/color] But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness! [color=#808080]Mat 6:24[/color] No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
oh blinded menxer, you have used these bible verses to foolishly try and show that they support your supposed third eye theory, the verses are about seeking the things of Heaven, and not the things of the world, money etc.
2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
all you can give is your own words, the Bible verses you post are nothing to do with your pineal gland supposed third eye, but you don't understand the Bible at all, and wrongly use God's word, you will have your reward for that:
Deu 12:32 Be sure to do everything I command you. Never add anything to it or take anything away from it.
Rev_20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
If you think I AM using "God's word wrongly" to foster the blooming of my third eye, so be it.
For there is no reward to be compared to that bestowed by a blooming pineal gland.
I AM the book of Lfe, in me is the third eye to see the reality that is Life.
I took time to read this "stereotypically" "chunkified" epistle, expecting the OP would be gracious enough to give a clear definition of "restructure" and the modalities to implement same, but alas it is the same old same.
johnw74: Lay Up Treasures in Heaven, not on earth, your eye must be single, you cannot serve both God and money
[color=#808080]Mat 6:19[/color] Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal: [color=#808080]Mat 6:20[/color] But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal: [color=#808080]Mat 6:21[/color] For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. [color=#808080]Mat 6:22[/color] The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light. [color=#808080]Mat 6:23[/color] But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness! [color=#808080]Mat 6:24[/color] No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
but your so called third eye cannot see it
This thread is not about money or mammon, but knowing and developing the potentials inherent in the pineal gland.
If you are denying the fact that there is an organ in the human body, called the pineal gland (which in ancient literature is referred to variously as the third eye, eye of Horus, sixth chakra, single eye, etc), whose functions you do not know or wants to know because the Bible specifically did not use the term third eye or pineal gland, then there is no point convincing you otherwise.
... But Then, the only way to see the God or the heaven you talk so passionately about is with the third eye, not your two normal eyes, no matter how you want to twist it.
johnw74: it's clear you have little understanding, but go on believing Jesus is talking here about the pineal gland and the supposed third eye
[color=#808080]Mat 6:22[/color] The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light. [color=#808080]Mat 6:23[/color] But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!
If you like, write it in sparkling diamond colours, the fact still remains, there is no way, "...eye be single..." can be interpreted to mean two eyes of the physical body, in the context of this thread.
Besides, "... Thy whole body shall be full of light" doesn't necessarily have to mean the physical body, it can equally mean the spirit body.
johnw74: you continue to be puffed up like a bull frog, or full of bull, anyway and you continue to falsely accuse-lie, which continues to show that you have nothing other than those things
[color=#808080]Mat 6:22[/color] The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light. [color=#808080]Mat 6:23[/color] But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!
truly Jesus isn't talking about the pineal gland and the supposed third eye, who would have thought that needed to be shown to someone:
Matthew 6:22-23
The light of the body ... - The sentiment stated in the preceding verses - the duty of fixing the affections on heavenly things - Jesus proceeds to illustrate by a reference to the “eye.” When the eye is directed steadily toward an object, and is in health, or is single, everything is clear and plain. If it flies to different objects, is fixed on no one singly, or is diseased, nothing is seen clearly. Everything is dim and confused. The man, therefore, is unsteady. The eye regulates the motion of the body. To have an object distinctly in view is necessary in order to correct and regulate action. So Jesus says, in order that the conduct may be right, it is important to fix the affections on heaven. Having the affections there.
Single - Steady, directed to one object. Not confused, as persons’ eyes are when they see double.
Thy body shall be full of light - Your conduct will be regular and steady. All that is needful to direct the body is that the eye be fixed right. No other light is required. So all that is needful to direct the conduct is, that the eye of be fixed on heaven; that the affections be there.
If, therefore, the light that is in thee ... If this is dark, how great is that darkness!
Laughs.
Where did you copy that from?
Note, emphasis is on "... eye..." if the reference was to the physical eyes it should and would have been, "... eyes..." but he was very clear about eye in singular.
Even if we go by your opinion, how do you fix your eye (not eyes) on heaven? You close one right?
Don't tell me you are going to see heaven with your two eyes.
What happened to Peter during the transfiguration, did any other person saw what he saw? What happened to Saul on the road to Damascus, did any other person saw what he saw? What happened to Stephen, did any other person saw what he saw?
If those men saw with the physical eyes others around them would have seen it too, but it was a seeing with the third eye.
In the case of Stephen, it was what medical science now call "near death experience," which is still controlled by the pineal gland.
Anyways, you can focus on your two eyes , but let me focus on my third eye, we are not bound to see the same things.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Third Eye: The Pineal Gland by menxer(op): 7:28am On Sep 08, 2017
