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Christianity EtcRe: Bitter Truth About Blessed Virgin Mary by Mftivi: 9:21am On Dec 18, 2013
try69: Oya, tell us what the passage is talking about now..

Or are you now confused?

And oh it seems you skipped this one

Exodus 18:7
1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)
7 And Moses went out to meet his father-in-law, and did obeisance, and kissed him, and each asked other of his welfare: and they came into the tent.

Exodus 18:7
Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
7 And he went out to meet his kinsman, and worshipped and kissed him: and they saluted one another with words of peace. And when he was come into the tent,

Exodus 18:7
Revised Standard Version (RSV)
7 Moses went out to meet his father-in-law, and did obeisance and kissed him; and they asked each other of their welfare, and went into the tent.

cheesy cheesy
Mr man having an image of someone and praying to them is a form of worship but your brain have Been blocked you can't coordinate anymore can't you see that there is no justification for what you doing in the bible where did Jesus or his disciples say we should pray to Mary or Jesus forgot to mention it? you stiff necked man don't gamble eternity us a serious game choose wisely
Christianity EtcRe: Bitter Truth About Blessed Virgin Mary by Mftivi: 8:50am On Dec 18, 2013
fijiano202: @try99 Pls i need all catholies to support or explain this Verse Rev 3:9 but start frow 7-11 to ur fellow catholies before he mess up woefully.Firstly theres nothing to argue abt that verse cos it basically as nothing to do with mary or christianity,it is a letter/word from Jesus to the church in Philadelphia,i wonder what made you read that verse cos if people fall down at ur feet doesnt in anyway means Worship,its to acknowledge u that u are greater than them but in this verse it is for people to acknowledge Jesus love for u cos u kept his words.This is one of the letter sent to one of the 7 churches,Pls i want people to Prove me wrong if my explianation is out of line.
he thinks the passage was talking to a man lack of the Spirit de worry xtains
Christianity EtcRe: Bitter Truth About Blessed Virgin Mary by Mftivi: 8:47am On Dec 18, 2013
try69: Olodo.. I have shown you in the bible where men bow to men..are they worshipping them?

Answer me! grin
Mr man you can't interpret the word of God its obvious you are trying so hard but its the holyspirit that does that. That passage was not talking about any particular human being it was talking to the church in Philadelphia no a physical building but the body of christ who has kept the faith and for that reason were hated and mocked.
Christianity EtcRe: Bitter Truth About Blessed Virgin Mary by Mftivi: 8:42am On Dec 18, 2013
For the confusion of Jesus being God or not. God is an office for being in which the fullness of deity dwells "God" the mist powerful of all. and in this office is the trinity God the father,God the son and God the holyspirit. They are three in one and do functions that varies. We can clearly see in the bible that God tr father is the God head. we can prove this by the statement Jesus made that when he comes next He knows not it he Father. Jesus is God the son and he was not known by man until he came and died and God the father exalted His name above all- are you seeing the functions of the God head now? lemme bring the issue home. human is duality your spirit and your flesh but they are the same, identical. But God has no flesh his members are all spirits and they are one. God has a spirit "Holy spirit" and has a Son Jesus christ. imagine your son being a part of you... The God head is the father
Christianity EtcRe: Bitter Truth About Blessed Virgin Mary by Mftivi: 6:52am On Dec 18, 2013
try69: Simple bible verse I give u, u no fit interpret.. Simple english, you no fit understand and in your little and very funky knowledge, grin you want to change somethings that is older than the bible. You need Jesus.

Olodo let me school you..

Revelation 3:9
1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)
9 Behold, I will make them of the Synagogue of Satan, which call themselves Jews, and are not, but do lie: behold, I say, I will make them that they shall come and worship before thy feet, and shall know that I have loved thee.

Revelation 3:9
Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
9 Behold, I will bring of the synagogue of Satan, who say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie. Behold, I will make them to come and adore before thy feet. And they shall know that I have loved thee.

Revelation 3:9
Revised Standard Version (RSV)
9 Behold, I will make those of the synagogue of Satan who say that they are Jews and are not, but lie—behold, I will make them come and bow down before your feet, and learn that I have loved you.

Notice that I used texts from 3 different bible translations, one 1599, the other 1899 and the last a newer translation...

Notice that the oldest translation used worship, the others used bow down..

My question to you mr bible scholar is, why will God make man worship man?

If you can answer, I will know you know what you are talking about because it's very obvious you don't.
the bible is not an essay you clearly don't understand that passage do yourself good by starting from chapter 2 font be lazy. God said diligently dividing the word if truth. Begin from chapter one self you are looking for a way to justify your sin
Christianity EtcRe: Bitter Truth About Blessed Virgin Mary by Mftivi: 9:52pm On Dec 17, 2013
fijiano202: guy i dey wait make him answer my question cos that verse was for the church of philadephia,i dont understand the Connection between Mary and church of philadephia.To prove Mary is very insignificant the bible didnt even record her death or said any abt her after the pentecostal
lolz guy you for just park mek anybody give a satanic interpretation now and hear nwiiii
Christianity EtcRe: Bitter Truth About Blessed Virgin Mary by Mftivi: 9:48pm On Dec 17, 2013
FrancisTony: you are talking rubbish here. U really need Gods understanding.
oya counter my post with the understanding of God u have if you can't just skip my post please I beg politely
Christianity EtcRe: Bitter Truth About Blessed Virgin Mary by Mftivi: 9:40pm On Dec 17, 2013
try69: It's the Word of God for the guy I quoted to interpret

You can help him too bible scholar
you have to interpret it that's how to share the word.
Christianity EtcRe: Bitter Truth About Blessed Virgin Mary by Mftivi: 9:08pm On Dec 17, 2013
try69: What can you deduce from this bible verse



Revelation 3:9
1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)
9 Behold, I will make them of the Synagogue of Satan, which call themselves Jews, and are not, but do lie: behold, I say, I will make them that they shall come and worship before thy feet, and shall know that I have loved thee.

Revelation 3:9
Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
9 Behold, I will bring of the synagogue of Satan, who say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie. Behold, I will make them to come and adore before thy feet. And they shall know that I have loved thee.

Revelation 3:9
Revised Standard Version (RSV)
9 Behold, I will make those of the synagogue of Satan who say that they are Jews and are not, but lie—behold, I will make them come and bow down before your feet, and learn that I have loved you.


what does the above mean?
Christianity EtcRe: Bitter Truth About Blessed Virgin Mary by Mftivi: 9:03pm On Dec 17, 2013
FrancisTony: dude u ain't making sense. So daft! And what does Mary do? U're so incompetent. We ask her to pray for us. And she prays to God almighty. Stick it to ur brain!
I said earlier that religious spirit messes with ones ability to understand. mr man the point here is that praying to sb is a form of worship according to Oxford dictionary and If
i ask brethren to pray for me (not that its even my thing but decided to come down to your level and continue *in Christianity prayer is a duty and a ministry you out ought to pray for your brethren. talk about praying in tongues nd its benefits*) that's by the way. I don't Kneel down at home and say brethren pray for me brethren most righteous pray for me. and when I meet them and say bro help me in prayers they will pray in Jesus name. But oh boy u pray direct to Mary and ask her to beg God you telling God that sending his son to be the way is not enough? when someone is not physically with you and is not communicating in real time its through prayers that you communicate to them even though they won't hear you. Mr man you worship idle. you have assumed Mary to be a deity and she can hear your prayers when you know she can't. you are attributing the omnipresent characteristics to her. don't let these words of mine be a judge onto you at last you can't justify this bro run for your life oo no look uche face your Bible no tell you that one bro may God help you.
Christianity EtcRe: Bitter Truth About Blessed Virgin Mary by Mftivi: 7:49pm On Dec 17, 2013
FrancisTony: gibberish bull-poo. Before u judge someone, u nid to ask for an explanation. It's obvious that u pentecostals doesn't have another fact to bash catholics and u're now forming the word worship . It's one of ur judgement on the last day bro!
to think that am on a level of religious contention with you is a fatal drop of poo! am interested in passing the message to you and I care the shit not about where you worship. when my leaders err I don't support them I research the word to balance things and stand firm they can't give me trash and I wont know and they don't gimme trash cos am still with em. I go to church because God said despise not the fellowship of brethren not because its where i get the keys to the doors of heaven. My church and pastor is not the saviour neither is yours. Jesus and knowing the word of God is.
if you don't pray to Mary and say intercede for me or bow to her image you won't go to Hellfire cos God didn't say so and there is no argument in that. but there are arguments in what you be doing in the name of honoring Mary even from the Bible. choose wisely
Christianity EtcRe: Bitter Truth About Blessed Virgin Mary by Mftivi:
FrancisTony: then if truly u are going to make heaven. U need to stop telling ur pastors, relative, brother etc to pray for you. HYPOCRITE oshi!
and when they pray form they say in the name of Jesus. you are not a fool are you? I don't be at hone and bow my head or go in my knees and say oh bro ebuka so righteous pray for me sinner. guy quit already you are making no sense. is this the poo you will tell God when you meet him ?
Christianity EtcRe: Bitter Truth About Blessed Virgin Mary by Mftivi: 6:59pm On Dec 17, 2013
lisasonesis: wait a minute this ur statement seem to me like u are waiting for Jesus to come and wipe away d sins of men d second time.
Don't u get it? Jesus had come, He had taken away d sins of men. y are u still a sinner? didn't u believe His mission was successful.

It is One thing to believe d word of God and another thing to make d word work for u.
If u believed what Jesus has done and have accepted it my question is, why do u still answer a sinner?
so many don't fully understand the wonders the death and resurrection of Jesus did
Christianity EtcRe: Bitter Truth About Blessed Virgin Mary by Mftivi: 6:53pm On Dec 17, 2013
FrancisTony: chai. U didn't answer my question. Shebi ur mum nah higher being. Hypocrite i hear you!
your question has no meaning u quoted the definition if worship and it turned out you are worshiping Mary from the definition you Gabe and the man threw your flaw at your face justify that then you can ask your question the. I will answer you. don't dogde it justify that you pray to Mary which is a form of worship according to the definition you gave which you extracted from Oxford dictionary
Christianity EtcRe: Bitter Truth About Blessed Virgin Mary by Mftivi: 6:49pm On Dec 17, 2013
FrancisTony: ahaa!! Angel Gabriel and Elizabeth have sinned fa! No1 blasphemy
a religious spirit builds a defensive system and deprives the possessed ability to understand as in to take in a message and digest the contents with open mind. dd the Angel and Elizabeth say pray for we sinners intercede for us..... you are not a fool are you?
Christianity EtcRe: Bitter Truth About Blessed Virgin Mary by Mftivi: 5:56pm On Dec 17, 2013
Ground zero: Dear Pastor,let's stop talking with full ignorance and talk academics here with facts. The catholic church is over 300years older than the bible we all read today. The catholic church gave the world the book that is called the bible. It was at the last council of Cathage held in 418AD presided over St.Augustine that Pope Gregory signed these compilations of books into law and from thence henceforth,it became a Christain archive.

When Martin Luther King,the father of Penticostalism,a German,that formed The Lutherian Church,felt the holy spirit was upon him,he altered some versions and books in the complete bible. He argued mathematically(stupidly) that the Glory of God had departed from Israel as of the time he calculated with his miniature brains the books of Meccabees,Tobith etc was written. He sited the birth of Eckabod in the bible,that means the Glory of God had departed from Israel. The scripture said of God,My spirit shall Never depart from you,o Israel until the end of time. To cut this long story short,When Martin Luther King wanted to die,while on his dying bed,he made a remark that was in record ..OH,MY GOD,FORGIVE ME FOR I HAVE MISLEAD MANY. These were men that twisted the word of the scripture to suite their life styles. They omitted the Purgatory aspect of the Bible and many other things. That is why when people especially some of these uninformed pastors and their ardent followers say things like The Catholics don't read the bible,I wonder their level of ignorance. Or when they say THESE ONE IS A CATHOLIC BILBLE. I laugh at such wave of ignorance. Both the bible your pastors use in the church and the one you put under your pillow are Catholic product. It was St.Jerome of the Catholic extraction that compiled the bible from Genesis unto Revelation and Guthenberg,the German Printer,printed the bible in his factory,a Catholic. So,I wonder,who is the greatest and who understands the bible better? The builder or the house built?

Many good number of these Protestant church's doesn't even know the origin of these things they read and call bible. It took the Mother church over 300years to compile,edit,proof read,harness,omit and suggest before we signed into law and today you can boost that St.Paul said this and Timothy and Revelation said these and that without even knowing who took sleepless nights to bring these together.

Finally,Jesus Christ is God. For the sake of clarity,God is not a Name. It's an office these Supreme beings occupy. That's the English word that many of us don't understand. When you say THE PRESIDENCY SAID....It's either Ruben Abati,Pius Anyim,Arch Namadi Sambo etc. that's the office they occupy.The Presidency. The God persons are enclaved in the word.. THE BLESSED TRINITY. THREE IN ONE GOD. A mystery that is beyond your comprehension. For instance,a man begets a man. A lion begets a lion. My names is not a man. My Dad begot me. My Dad is a man and begot me,a man. My own name is Nonso. God begets a God. His name is Jesus. The personality they assume is called God just as the personality we assume is called humans. Ok now,more clearly put,am an Igbo man. The word,God, in my dialect spells CHINEKE. It means The CREATOR. Did Jesus not creat together with God the Father? He did...let's creat man in our image after our own likeness. The scripture all said of Christ THERE WAS NOTHING CREATED THAT WAS NOT CREATED THROUGH HIM. If through him all things were created,then he is a creator in it's entirety and hence,CHINEKE comes to pre-intimacy. I don't know your local names you call God. You can go through it and see.

So,the word God,doesnt mean a name. It's just an office they occupy and Christ and the holy Spirit occupy these office. However,there are three distinctive aspect to their personalities. God the Father is the greatest. God the Son(Jesus) is co-eternal with the Father,co-Majesty with the Father but not Co-equal with the Father. That's the simple analogy. That's why we call the former,Father and the later,Son. It means you can Majestically worship Christ because He is God..Co-Majesty. They are co-eternal because Christ will live forever as God...Co-eternal but they are not Co-equal because one is Father and the other Son.

I rest my case.
08034755774

you have succeeded in making no point
Christianity EtcRe: Bitter Truth About Blessed Virgin Mary by Mftivi: 5:53pm On Dec 17, 2013
FrancisTony: nice definition by oxford. And u still honour ur mum and dad. Is that not worship too? I know ur hypocritical nature wont allow u to answer this. *grin*
allow the truth to invade your heart don't beat about the bush. its obvious that worship includes praying to a being
Christianity EtcRe: Bitter Truth About Blessed Virgin Mary by Mftivi: 5:51pm On Dec 17, 2013
DEGREE2466: 1. JESUS IS GOD

2. MARY IF THE MOTHER OF GOD

3. WE HONOUR AND NOT WORSHIP MARY

4. BELIEVE IT OR LEAVE IT.
if you have ever prayed hail mary pray for we sinners you have worshipped mary.
Christianity EtcRe: Bitter Truth About Blessed Virgin Mary by Mftivi: 12:54am On Dec 17, 2013
Db boy: I smell stupidity, what kind of morons believe that a ghost visited a woman to announce the coming of Christ and also the woman immaculately concepted to give birth to a Devine being and as a result of this immaculate event I should continuing wasting MB to argue what religion is the best as if the two being give a Bleep abt what you think, eat wear or even Bleep no wonder Marx says religion is the opium of the masses and the sigh of the oppressed.you my friend are all bleeped up go get a life and stop wasting time over unproven event written by drunks and fishermen I guess you are all educated all you need do is to just read the bible and ask your self this question so humanity started with a Man, Woman and a talking Snake grin and Noah actually built a boat that actually contained all he beast of earth only an ignorant fellow would believe all animal is within Noah walking distance how pathetic this what happen when fishermen write the bible and gain inspiration from wine which my religious brethren refer to as holy spirit.
what you call wisdom is foolishness what you call foolishness is wisdom. What made a man to willingly give 10% of his sweat and beliv in with his life is no joke. you are yet to find wisdom for now you are still a fool and limited. you operate in one dimension The people you tagged fools operate in double dimension, its above human understanding - seek wisdom FOOL. THE ALMIGHTY GOD SAYS YOU ARE A FOOL .
Christianity EtcRe: Bitter Truth About Blessed Virgin Mary by Mftivi: 11:38pm On Dec 16, 2013
the Catholic doctrine is full of blasphemy. they pray the rosary saying Mary pray for us sinners plead unto God for our sins! and is it not clear that Christianity is not some religion its believing in Christ and living by the spirit. its doing what Jesus instructed . by the way "Christian" means christ like. When Jesus was on earth He obeyed His earthly mum but didn't give her the place of God. eg: when Joseph and Mary finally found him in the temple Jesus was not sorry. He said to marry these ones here listening to me are my family, u get that? The story of Jesus can't be told without mentioning Mary isn't that an honour! She was chosen by grace all glory to God Almighty.
BusinessRe: Youwin Business Competition 2013 by Mftivi: 8:59pm On Dec 12, 2013
blink182: what is the amount you will charge per customer and how many per day will be served-multiply the figures. Your figures are based on forecasts if it a new business.

You can't ask people to tell you how much capital you need. You should sort that on your own, list your equipments and total the figures to get fixed capital. Your daily, monthly, annual recurring expenditure make up working capital. Add the 2 to get needed capital.

The salary you pay your workers is at your discretion. You can add 5-6 months of salaries to your working capital, just make sure by the time you exhaust the grant money meant for salaries your business can sustain salary payment or that could be the end.
THANK YOU
BusinessRe: Youwin Business Competition 2013 by Mftivi: 8:02pm On Dec 10, 2013
What amount of sales, in Naira per month, must
you achieve to reach profitability?

how do you calculate this when you ain't selling a material product and what factors affects it. the capital you require to start, the salary you pay to your workers ?
BusinessRe: Youwin Business Competition 2013 by Mftivi: 7:38pm On Dec 10, 2013
newacca: You are expected to write the kind of people that will need ur product/services mostly. For instance,you produce biro n books, ur expected customers are Students,Schools,Corporate organizations,NGO ,Government etc Those dat mostly need ur product or service and those that will definetely patronize u.
Thank you
Christianity EtcRe: Rivers Turn Blood-red In Lebanon, China & Slovakia by Mftivi: 12:22pm On Dec 06, 2013
How logical is it that blood from a slaughter house turned those rivers blood red!
Christianity EtcRe: Rivers Turn Blood-red In Lebanon, China & Slovakia by Mftivi: 12:18pm On Dec 06, 2013
just accept christ. confess your sins to him, reject them and be forgiven then wait upon him as you do His will through the spirit if God. Just that! escape hell. if the Nigeria sun can change my skin to brown .........and passing an oven on close range ain't romantic then hell .............
BusinessRe: Youwin Business Competition 2013 by Mftivi: 10:29pm On Dec 03, 2013
Name five of your existing or expected top
customers, How will you attract these customers
to your point of sale?
I need more explanation of this question. my customers are established business and services in Nigeria.
do I write their names one by one? I hope someone understands my question
BusinessRe: A-Z Of PPD. Lets Bank With PPD. [come Let Me Teach You] by Mftivi: 6:00pm On Dec 02, 2013
bro through which means do you withdraw ?
PhonesRe: Thinking Of Getting A Smartphone? Come In For Advice! by Mftivi: 4:24pm On Nov 07, 2013
write2obi: Why did you discard your HTC Vivid? Was is giving you any troubles?
I want to reassure you again that HTC is a big game. its great. the first smartphone maker to build an android phone
BusinessRe: Youwin Business Competition 2013 by Mftivi: 12:15am On Nov 07, 2013
while waiting for you win. any serious minded entrepreneur here ? my upstairs are making ideas every minute I go to special arena *thoughts*
PhonesRe: Thinking Of Getting A Smartphone? Come In For Advice! by Mftivi: 8:13pm On Nov 06, 2013
olire: so... Hw much are these fones? Do they have a strong battery?
the capacity is from 1200mah to 1400mah. it can go a full day with minimum use on tweaked kernels. if u are a heavy user get power bank

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