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saintkel:
I am not defending any one....I am just saying u should leave social media antics for now.....ur pastor is enough for u...must u listen to another pastor?

You are sounding funny.....do you have any right in the world to tell me to leave social media? Why are you here on nairaland? You too leave people on social media who are talking about other pastors and face your own pastor. Is that too much to ask from you too?

GothamCities:
If you cannot see the reason as stated in 1Peter 4:6, I can't help you.


1Peter 3:20 says Jesus went and preached to imprisoned spirits. Where are spirits imprisoned?

You should ask the Bible that said it. Why asking me whether Jesus went to overturn the judgement? And who told you that a judgement has already taken place? Did I tell you that? Am I the one who said Jesus was in hell to preach to those who are dead?

Where does Apostle Peter claim that the spirit he talked about were spirits of dead people in hell fire?

Who sent those spirit to hell fire in the first place? Were they not judged before they went there? So how did some of those spirits go to heaven again after been Judged to go to hell fire to burn forever according to your teaching?

iamtoofan:
Does school work for everybody abi naa everybody wey get degree dey use am chop 🙂

So tithe no dey work for everybody? So pastors no dey preach say tithe no be sure way for everybody to make more money?

saintkel:
so now u actually don't believe what Jesus says but ur other pastors?....and not even ur own pastor

I believe what Jesus says.....you are the one defending fake pastors.

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iamtoofan:
You dont need a biblical reason cos you know more that the bible, you have a degree

if your degree did not make you rich why should you still send your children to school, it is not free

I don't understand this your analogy. Are you saying that tithing will not make some people rich? If yes, why?

GothamCities:
Is 1 Peter 4:6 the only Scripture I gave you?



Is the answer not there in the same 1 Peter 4:6?

"For this is the reason the gospel was preached even to those who are now dead, so that they might be judged according to human standards in regard to the body, but live according to God in regard to the spirit."

Don't come here telling me "according to you." I only quoted the Scriptures!

So I have asked you countless times why Jesus preached to them. What was the purpose of preaching to them since they were already judged by what they did before they died according to their conscience?


Did the bible say that the dead were in hell when they were preached to? If yes, was Jesus overturning the judgment that took them to hell?

iamtoofan:
Its not my place to figure out that for you,

because school degree did not enrich or make you as rich as you want does it mean you won't send your children to school

So if tithe does not make me rich, give me a biblical reason why I should pay it.

GothamCities:
Was I the one who said it or the scriptures?

1 Peter 3:18-20:

"For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God. He was put to death in the body but made alive in the Spirit. After being made alive, he went and made proclamation to the imprisoned spirits—"

1 Peter 4:6:
"For this is the reason the gospel was preached even to those who are now dead, so that they might be judged according to human standards in regard to the body, but live according to God in regard to the spirit."


Ephesians 4:8-10:

"This is why it says: 'When he ascended on high, he took many captives and gave gifts to his people.' ([b]What does 'he ascended' mean except that he also descended to the lower, earthly regions? He who descended is the very one who ascended higher than all the heavens, in order to fill the whole universe.)"

I know you're a Jehovah Witness trying to bring up heretic arguments. Those are they scriptures, not my own words. So, go and ask the questions to the Bible and stop saying "according to you." You opened your eyes and read the scriptures yourself. Go open your Bible and read those verses. Thank you.

So according to 1 Peter 4:6, where the dead when they were preached to? Why did Jesus need to preach to them since they are to be judged by what they did when they were alive according to their conscience?

gohf:
That was not your question, this was
"Is it also justice for God to burn the devil forever since he did not sin forever?"

Answer mine and I will answer both.

Has the devil been sinning forever? If yes, does that not mean that he was created as a sinner?

GothamCities:
They're all judged according to their conscience. Please read my post again.

So why did Christ still go to preach to those who died without knowing him before he came to earth according to you?

saintkel:
I am not agreeing to anything

Lol.....suit yourself......but you can't make others not to believe that those pastors actually said such.

ogolemati:
don't worry just die a criminal let's see if this little brain of your will be reset

Lol....so your explanation lies In people's death? Have you died before?

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