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gohf:
did the devil stop sinning from the beginning?

You can answer the question. Was he created as the devil?

saintkel:
does what other pastors say become a yardstick to what Jesus commanded?

So are agreeing now that those pastors actually said those things?

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ogolemati:
you see what am saying.then die a sinner then I will show you.you are not meant to know all as a mortal

You that are a mortal, how did you know all?

saintkel:
I'll take social media serious when u make videos of ur own pastor/s saying exactly d same thing social media said...till then....look up to Jesus n disregard social media

Lol...you are such a funny person. So my pastor has become a yardstick to what other pastors can say?

iamtoofan:
Did school make you rich ??

I will answer no. So are you saying that tithe and school work the same way?

saintkel:
which other pastors?....or u wanna tell me about social media trials?....just go to ur church, listen to d word of God....take the one meant for u....ignore d ones u don't wanna listen to....forget social media antics

So the videos on social media where pastors make these statements are false videos?

ogolemati:
read and study it .I can't marry wife for you and get her pregnant for you too.am not preaching to you.why will I even do that,you are the one asking questions and not being convinced from what is written so far.the best way to find out if God will burn you forever will be to die a sinner.then let's see how a mortal will dictate to his maker what he feels like.shalom

Till now you cannot show me where God said in his word the bible where he will burn both the devil and people in hell fire forever and you claim to have studied the word of God?

Jokerman:
From what I know, Hell Fire is the place where sinners and enemies of God are currently punished in spirit form after they dropped the flesh, and waiting for their lot on the last day.

While Hades, is the abode of the dead...

I stand to be corrected

So do you have any biblical back up for these ideas?

Kingosytex:
Their destiny to be rich?
Your mixing the whole thing up.
Destiny here never equates money per say, it goes way beyond that.
It means living to your full potentials, achieving your goals, making the most of your talents and opportunities.

Take for instance, those robbers set ablaze where not destined to die like that.
In fact, it would be unjust for God to do that.
Let's say HE predetermined that they would die like that, what right does HE to judge them? It would be unjust.
Hope you get the picture now?
You've got a lot to play to fulfil your destiny, not everyone becomes what they're destined to be.

So what exactly is the destiny that everyone has to fulfill? How can you tell or know if one is not fulfilling his destiny? How do you know the kind of death that God has destined people to die?

iamtoofan:
Did solomon or elon musk graduate with 1st class, how many 1st class are on forbes richest 1- 5 in the world

Did bill gate become the richest man becos he went to school, but people still spend fortune to send there children to school.


how many graduate in Nigeria have what Mc oluomo owns, But they told us go to school, read your book and you will be successful

So what Is your point? Does tithe make people rich? Yes or no?

Kingosytex:
There's nowhere it is written in the Bible.
In fact, the Bible says in Deautronomy 15:11 (Therefore I command you to be openhanded toward your fellow Israelites who are poor and needy in your land.)

So if there is nowhere in the bible, why are we then saying that some people are not fulfilling their destiny to be rich?

ogolemati:
ok continue in your question and please make sure you die a sinner.maybe by then I will show you where Matthew 13says that.

Kindly quote the verse na....you are just threatening me with death. Is that how to preach?

dapadawee:
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In fact the two gave more than 10

Is God saying that we should give 10 or below 10 or above 10? Which one sir?

Kingosytex:
Well, to the best of my knowledge there is nowhere it is written in the Bible that God has picked out a date for each of us to die.
Though, the Bible clearly states that there are things that can shorten or lengthen one's life span.

Ok....so where does the Bible teach that God has destined for everyone to be financially rich?

Juddithaa:
Tithing is not a command but an instruction (or maybe we can call it an advice, I don't know). If you tithe, you get the blessings of the act, if you don't, you get no blessings attached to it. Nevertheless, that you miss out on the blessings associated with tithing does not mean your life is condemned to poverty. In summary, there are other spiritual and natural principles that you can engage in to get blessed while violating another. But think about it, if 1+2 gives you 3. Imaging what 1+2+3 would give you.

So where does the Bible say that there is a seperate blessing for tithe for Christians? Kindly provide a verse.

ogolemati:
go read Matthew 13. I don't engage people on spiritual things because they reason with their developed brain.because you live as mortal you know time but afterlife knows no time so you will understand forever then.for now your developed brain is limited. so continue thinking you as a muderer or a criminal will stay in heaven with the righteous.me personally will burn you in that hell forever if I catch you there

So where does Matthew 13 say that the devil and people will be burnt forever?

Kingosytex:
Sorry, I didn't understand your question.
Please can you rephrase or come clearer?

If God has destined me to die today before I was born, can I avoid dying today?

ogolemati:
another day for this discussion.just serve God and do his commands

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Is it also justice for God to burn the devil forever since he did not sin forever?

Kingosytex:
Yeah. The will of God isn't automatic, you have a role to play.

And say to Archippus: "Take heed to the ministry that you have received in the Lord, that you may fulfill it."
(Colossians 4:17).

Pay attention to the bolded. It didn't say that God will fulfill it for you.
It said, that you may fulfil it.
Not everyone becomes what they're destined to be.

So if God destined to die today, can I avoid fulfilling it?

Bizaustine:
Yes as long as You dont do it with the intention of Tithing. Tithing should not be less than 10% and mind You it's not taking you to hell or blocking your blessings if You don't pay tithe.

It's all about Giving , Givers never lack, now pit your mind to giving directly for God's work.

Don't focus so much on the message of Tithing. It is for your WORK with and for God, this will not originally take You to heaven.
Keep Your total focus on Your WALK with and for God, na this one be koko.

So you are saying that I am not under any law to pay tithe, right?

ogolemati:
ok but you get the point that some people will be burnt forever.beside why will anyone want to be burnt forever should be the right questions? God loves you,so love him back and do what he commands.burning forever was meant for Satan and his demons.dont do Satans work and think God won't keep his word of burning you forever.God is a righteous judge. if he burns you small then he will be unjust for burning Satan and his demons forever.remember he created satan and the demons too.repent and live for God and forget about being burnt forever

So where does the Bible teach that Satan and people will be burnt forever?

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Bizaustine:
Op You are misunderstanding the sponsoring thought to Tithing.

The same promise of Tithing in the Old testament still lives on till today. God's words always come to pass.

Tithing cannot take You to heaven or hell.
It is part of giving to God but on a different dimension.

Most of the richest men in the World are mad givers, giving attracts blessings, so does given directly for God's work. King Solomon You mentioned is a massive giver.

I have a friend who owns one of the biggest eateries in Ado Ekiti, the gee gives 30% of his Monday morning sales to a particular Church that's taking care of an orphanage home.

Giving attracts blessings. It's a Natural phenomenon. How then can You see Tithing which is given directly for God's work has never made anyone rich??

If I give God 5% of my earning, will God bless me?

ogolemati:
omo see reasoning,well don't die a sinner ooh.you better repent and do what God commands. Imagine ordinary government builds prison for criminals, murderers, kidnappers etc this people that commit this crimes are people born in families just like every other person.but goes to prison when they commit. Let assume someone kidnap and killed you even after paying Ramson and after the person die without repentance.you see him in heaven,won't you think God is wicked. imagine if all murderers kidnappers are not sent to prison.imagine if we all live together with them even in their crime.think

So why will a loving God burn a wicked person forever for a crime he did not commit forever?

GothamCities:
No, salvation isn't still open to those who have died. We're talking about those who died before Jesus died and resurrected.

For those who died without ever hearing of Jesus after Jesus had completed the work of salvation, such as our forefathers, this is what the scriptures say:

Romans 2:12-15:

"All who sin apart from the law will also perish apart from the law, and all who sin under the law will be judged by the law. For it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God’s sight, but it is those who obey the law who will be declared righteous. Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law. They show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts sometimes accusing them and at other times even defending them."

God will judge those people such as our forefathers who have not heard the Gospel, neither know the law of Moses before they died according to their conscience. The conscience is the law of God written in the heart of every man.

So did Apostle Paul say that those who died without knowing Jesus before Jesus came to earth had no conscience? So why are they not judged according to their conscience too?

Afobaba33:
If you will not pay
I will continue to pay and GOD'S faithfulness is ever sure on my life

You can continue to pay.....those who do not pay have God's faithfulness and blessings in their lives.

ugo227:
The same Elon Musk that is the BIGGEST sponsor of Rapsody of Realities devotional….

So if a politician or a celebrity partners with a church, does that mean that they are paying tithe?