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smokinloud:
He told me to pay portions and money represents that portion.

Kindly quote the verse

smokinloud:
barter is paying your direct agricultural produce and money represents that portion nowadays.

That one no concern Jesus. He simply told you what should be paid as tithe in Matthew 23:23.

smokinloud:
Kindly quote a verse where Jesus says you should not use money as a portion of your cummin, mint and anise.

Matthew 23:23 clearly state what should be paid as tithe. So where did you get money from?

smokinloud:
System have changed and we now spend money instead of pieces of silver or barter.

Where did Jesus tell you to pay either money, silver or barter in Matthew 23:23?

smokinloud:
10% (tithe) is a portion. You nor go school ni?!.

Lol....Kindly quote the verse where Jesus said that the portion is referring to tithe and money

smokinloud:
Jesus did not say that I should not pay my tithe in form of money too. moreover, money doesn't have intrinsic values, it only represents a total amount of mint, anise and cummin.

Where did Jesus tell you to pay what represents a total amount of mint, anise and cummin in Matthew 23:23?

smokinloud:
he showed me to pay portions and money represents the portions I pay. Don't you reason?.

Oga where did Jesus tell you to pay portions as tithe?

smokinloud:
Lame argument . Show me where God instruct you to use nairaland.

Nowhere sir......it's my choice to use it or not....
Jesus plainly told you how to pay your tithe in Matthew 23:23, why are you not Obeying?

smokinloud:
So, Jesus have to say that money can be used when barter is outdated before you spend money?!.

Jesus did not say that i should not spend money. He himself and his disciples spent money. Kindly show me where Jesus say I should pay my tithe as money in Matthew 23:23.

smokinloud:
So you don't know that tithe is 10% of your sweat and the fact that the Jewish community was agricultural community warrant that they pay directly by produces?.

Where did Jesus say that I should pay my 10 percent as money in Matthew 23:23? That is my question.

smokinloud:
So, there's no room for evolution in the bible?. Person nor fit transition from barter to money economy again?!.

Where did Jesus even mention barter or money in Matthew 23:23?
He plainly said you should pay 'tithe of mint and anise and cummin. Why are you not paying it?

smokinloud:
So, Jesus need to tell you that barter is outdated before you spend naira?!.

Lol......where did Jesus say that money can be used when barter is outdated in Matthew 23:23? Did Jesus say we should pay barter as tithe Matthew 23:23?

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smokinloud:
You now accept that Jesus says tithe is good ba?!. If you want to pay your tithe in goods you're free to.

So where did Jesus say you should pay it as money? You've not shown me that till now....Why are you not Obeying his simple instruction in Matthew 23:23?

smokinloud:
under the Roman Empire, after the death and resurrection of Christ, people still trade by barter even when money was the official means of trade.

Oga you are just jumping up and down.....show me where Jesus said that tithe can be Paid as money in Matthew 23:23? That is my question.

smokinloud:
under the Roman Empire, after the death and resurrection of Christ, people still trade by barter even when money was the official means of trade.

Oga where did Jesus say you should pay tithe as money in Matthew 23:23? That is my question.

smokinloud:
I didn't say there was no money, did you read my comment at all?. I said money was not widely used and accuracy was issue. Okay, since you include Judas in your screenshot, why was Judas paid 30 pieces of silver instead of money (denarius, shekel, or lepton)?!. Why pieces of silver? Why not real money?!.

That is what it was prophesied that he would be paid with. Show me a research that says that money was not widely used in the time of Jesus.

Kindly show me where Jesus said we can pay money as tithe in Matthew 23:23.

smokinloud:
Kindly show me where Jesus teaches that trade by barter should stop and transition from barter to monetary economy or where Jesus say you should have sex with your wife.

Your claim that money was not widely used int he time of Jesus is completely false by the screenshot below.
Nowhere did Jesus say that trade by barter should stop. Jesus plainly said in Matthew 23:23 that you should pay 'tithe of mint and anise and cummin'. So why are you twisting Jesus words?

smokinloud:
There was money but money was not widely used. [b]There was limited money system and the best way to be accurate is giving tithes by goods.
Secondly, Bartering economy, goods were widely exchanged for services.
The Jewish community were agricultural community so it was easier to trade by barter for accuracy. [/b]

So kindly show me where Jesus said that money could be used as tithe in Matthew 23:23?

smokinloud:
Money represent the value of goods and services within an economy. Don't you know this?.

Where did Jesus mention money in Matthew 23:23?
Or do you want to deny that there was money in the time of Jesus but nowhere did Jesus mention money in Matthew 23:23.

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smokinloud:
I would not say olodo Christians full nairaland but..., At the time of Jesus there was no christian. What exist then was Jews followers of Christ. In fact, Jesus didn't come to create religion. He came to establish his church. JESUS never preached heresy, whatever he says is what his true followers should follow.

So do you agree that Jesus was saying that his true followers should pay 'tithe of mint and anise and cummin' instead of cash or money in Matthew 23:23?