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tctrills:
Because the bible says
you will cry and gnash your teeth when you see Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets in the Kingdom of God, while you are thrown out!

Ah....since you cannot prove to us that The Lazarus and rich man story was not a real life story, how do we align it with your Luke 13:28 since you claim that they are not connected? Would you not be contradicting Jesus words?

tctrills:
I don't know? The bible did not print out the timetable for everyone's resurrection?

Ah....that means that even till now you cannot confirm from the scriptures that Abraham is born again and in heaven now? So how do you want to convince us na that Abraham was a Christian?

tctrills:
I was talking to someone else at that time. You never told me your organization and I did not ask.

Ok oo

tctrills:
Let's see what the bible says.

Abraham died at the ripe old age of 175. 9 His sons Isaac and Ishmael buried him in Machpelah Cave, in the field east of Mamre that had belonged to Ephron son of Zohar the Hittite.
Is the the answer to your question

Ah....so Abraham is in the cave till now? You did not mention cave as destination earlier oo

tctrills:
If telling you my organization would have made you learn, I definitely would have told you but clearly it will not so I see no need. My only goal has been to teach you nothing more

😂😂😂😂....so what made you link me to an organization?

tctrills:
Jesus Christ was the first fruit of the grave. I never told you that Abraham went to heaven before Christ. When would you start paying attention?

Ok so where has Abraham been all the while that he was dead if he did not go to heaven? Which other destinations out of the five that we have discovered must he have gone to?
And where is he now?

tctrills:
Loool but I did not lie did I?

Which organization you dey?

tctrills:
Even Jesus Christ did not convince the children of Israel of his divinity. I am not responsible for your convincing. I will only teach you the truth, the rest is on you.

Ahhh...you that said here that you don't know where Abraham went to when he died before Jesus came to earth. You said you don't even know whether Abraham was resurrected before or after Jesus resurrection. how can you now convince us that Abraham is in heaven with christ?

tctrills:
If I were a member of his organization I would be ashamed watching my member avoid questions for basically a week but these people are not capable of feeling shame

E don reach like this....na to dey insult organization now....abeg which organization you dey?

tctrills:
If you want to learn about the final state of man, I will happily teach but do us a favor and open a special thread for that then mention me. I promise to continue teaching you

😂😂😂Na wa oo.....so you could not convince us here that Abraham was a born again and presently in heaven? Na wa oo

tctrills:
Another topic?

Na you carry us reach here na.....continue Oga

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tctrills:
I never mentioned final destination, that was your phrase and I only pointed you to verses in the bible or do you have contrary translations?

Ahhhh ok...so where is the final destination for all mankind?

tctrills:
Oga I didn't bring any na. You read them in your Bible translation right?

Ah....I no read final destinations there oo....na you dey teach me now oo....even the prison wey you talk...I no see any human being wey go there.

tctrills:
So you also think throw out is a destination that means you now have 5 destination

Oya bring more final destinations😂😂

tctrills:
So according to you, for now you believe in 4 destinations and you are looking forward to others right?
Was any destination mentioned in Luke 13.28?

Ahhh....'throw out' nko😂😂😂 I thought that was a destination oo?
Ok so we now have 4 final destinations where people would go:
Heaven
Hell
Prison
Outer darkness
Any more?

tctrills:
You asked this very question less than 40 mins ago and I answered. Learn to pay attention please.

If you've been paying attention you wouldn't ask me your previous question.

tctrills:
Oh you counted four. I am happy you said you counted four. So do you believe there are 4 destinations as you said you counted?

are there only four? When I see all of them I would conclude whether to believe or not? What was the destination in Luke 13:28 that you quoted earlier?

tctrills:
Those what you wrote even make sense to you?
So to you he was being honest but to the audience, what temple was he talking about?

Oga I have asked you severally here if Jesus was aware his audience thought he was talking about the literal temple in Jerusalem? Your answer has been yes...why did he not tell them he meant something different? Was he trying to deceive them?

tctrills:
Read your Bible. Everything I told you is in your translation right?

...Oga show me oo....we've counted four now...how many destinations are remaining?😂😂😂

tctrills:
No I am not saying so. Let me even add more.
Matthew 25.30 speaks of outer darkness

And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

So which do you settle for?

So how many destinations do mankind have...please count all of them and tell us here.

tctrills:
That makes sense but it is your opinion. And even if that is correct, it still does not change the fact that his body was literally the temple of God and his statement was literally factual.

It is to you that Jesus was referring to his literal bidy....not to his audience in John 2:19.

tctrills:
The writings of Peter is over 2000 years so it being new to you shows that you have a long way to go.
I believe you know that the judgement of God has not been given to me so I will not be the one to decide who goes where.

😂😂😂.....really....are you saying that all these churches who say that heaven and hell is the final destination of all mankind are wrong?

tctrills:
This is a good question but it's actually a question for Jesus Christ. It's above my pay grade. The bible did not tell me why he allowed them to retain their ignorance but again, this question is another distraction. Please make a point. What's the purpose of the question Biko?

Oga the fact that Jesus did not correct their wrong notion clearly meant that he wanted them to really think he was referring to the literal temple. Or was only his disciples that later realized that he was talking about his body as explained in John 2:22.

tctrills:
No, he never said the literal temple they worshipped. That would have been a lie. They inferred the temple they worshipped in and they were wrong.

Oga did Jesus know that his listeners concluded that he was referring to the temple where they worshipped? If yes, why did he not tell them he was referring to his body?

tctrills:
Now you are getting confused.
I just told you that I depend on the bible. I have given you an example with those sent to spirit prison in 1 Peter 3. So asking me if it's between heaven and hell doesn't make sense or do you agree that people who are not allowed into heaven in Luke 13:28 will go to hell as shown in 1 Peter 3.19?
The mysteries of God go beyond heaven and hell my brother.

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂......so apart from heaven and hell, there are other places that people will go....wow...this is a new teaching....can you please tell us those that go to this prison in 1 Peter 3:19, since you are trying hard not to connect Luke 13:28 to Luke chapter 16:23?

tctrills:
What does this even mean? You see you have been caught and now you say meaningless words.

Is the temple that Jesus told his listeners in John 2:19 the literal temple where they worshipped? If no, why did Jesus not tell them he was referring to his body?

tctrills:
Are you asking my beliefs or the teachings of Jesus Christ. What's your point here.
I only stick to what has been revealed.
For example, in 1 Peter 3. We learn about spirits in prison; so you asking me to sentence everyone to hell is quite crazy

Oga do you agree that people who are not allowed into heaven in Luke 13:28 will go to hell as shown in Luke 16:23? Yes or no sir?