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chieveboy:
...You saw but didn't see...

😂😂ok oo.

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chieveboy:
Here you are about sources.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InK9MZh7D6g?si=V8F4Oe_maCgiZYRd

Lol....I must say you are a very interesting person....the man in this your video is neither an African nor did he state any African source of information of which you claimed you got these information from.

At the end of the day you just want to tell me things that I should just swallow and accept. You just want me to ignore Bible's information and take your own information as true.

Just rest sir.....thank you.

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MightySparrow:
Do you have problem with English language?

How does my question connote that I have a problem with English language?

My question is also in English as stated below:
If the name of your God is Jealous, Would it be proper if I say that my name is Jealous, or I say that someone is Jealous?

Would that mean that I am bearing the name of your Almighty God or giving someone else that name?

chieveboy:
Remind yourself to completely grasp what I said about the bible being erroneous.

I wonder why you think a book written and compiled by humans would be error-free.






Spirit an adjective or the word used to describe Soul. Soul is not tangible. The body IT uses is tangible.



From numerous sources ranging from African fore fathers until some people found a way to convince them that they must now become another people (Jews) by faith before they can go where their fathers and even to they themselves visit nightly and call it "dreams".




How about you make use of this advise instead and quite stopping people from freeing themselves of beliefs they adopted from a bible which itself gave no source of its information other than people speaking about their own personal experiences like me and my sources?

How do you know that the soul is not physical and not tangible, does the Bible also support that idea?

Can you please supply the sources of information of these African forefathers that taught you all the things that you've been saying on these thread?

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chieveboy:
May I whittle what the translators of the bible call in different occasions "Soul", "Spirit", "Heart" & "Mind":

Most of the time, they mean 'Soul' especially if the object of that sentence grammatically requires a Noun. If you dissect a person, the 'Identity' part of the person is Soul. Not "the soul" or "my soul" as Christians put it. For instance " I am Chieveboy" not "I am my Chieveboy, or I am a Chieveboy". The adjective for Soul is "Spirit".

If you remove Soul from the equation, no body and nothing will exist even Matter itself. This information of course will be alien for anyone whom the 'Parable of the Sower' falls on.

It emanates from advanced information about the constituents of man and is indeed apt given the fact that science for instance has more information about what biologically makes up a man than the Bible, even as Mystics know more than science as to the spiritual constituents of man than mainstream science.

The Bible at the moment is a good source of information, if your optimum goal is to only read where the terms "Soul" "Spirit" and "Mind" is used without further details and grounds for going beyond it. It is a setup where the average readers have swore an oath of no progression seemingly.

Please kindly tell me where you got the information at the bolded from since you've claimed that the bible is erroneous?

Soul wears the physical body (among three others) because it is 'Spirit', and God (The Supreme Deity) knows spirits cannot hold physical objects and vice-versa, so a compatible body is availed them. For this reason, God cannot come to the physical else the physical disintegrates while a physical body cannot go to even Mars here...

The other three bodies are the:

1: Astral ( or emotional body) were emotions are derived and is "measurable" with the right scientific tools available today.

2: Causal ( or Destiny-seed Body), the Record and recording house of the body and the universe.

3:Mental ( AKA Mind), which is the 'Firmware' that is used to run all the four bodies.

All these are bodies Soul runs at the same time to while running the Physical body.

These three bodies corresponds to the 3 heavens starting from the Astral, Causal and Mental or 3rd heaven which Paul speaks of.

Also, as everyone is living here in the physical, they are also concurrently living in these heavens at the same time as "being alive" here. The challenge is that 99% of people have what they call their "awareness" indexed or focused only in their index or 'last-body' plane or world which is earth for humans. They only have a slight glimpse of what they are doing in the other worlds when they sleep and wake up to call it a "dream". Most do not make it beyond the first heaven while they dream.

Everything or place in the physical are copied from the first heaven or Astral plane from the remotest village on earth to the best that earth has not seen yet. This is why some ho die go to their village and may not know they are dead had gone to "heaven".

In death, the Physical body is dropped and Soul functions in the Astral body to be able to operate in the 1st heaven. Most people on earth due to ack of information believe this is the final heaven owing to the grandeur, that is if their Love Balance-sheet allows them go to finer parts of this place.

The ruler of this place of course appears majestic beyond words and is the God of most religions because most do not know any better, and this knowledge is no guarantee of going past him. He is the ruler of all worlds below him and appoints the rulers of earth who are responsible to him whether they know so or not.

Are you saying at the bolded that soul and spirit are the same and that the soul is not tangible according to the Bible?

What is the source of all these your information about three bodies and different heavens?

I advice you stop dishing out so much information without a reference to a source of your information.

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justlove91:
You must remember that evidence is there to support a claim or a conclusion and it is possible for the evidence to be right and the conclusion to be wrong.

Example, if the fingerprint of Mr. A is found on a murder weapon, we can conclude/claim that Mr. A is the murderer. If along the line we found a cctv footage of Mr. B committing the said murder, then our conclusion about Mr A was wrong even though [b]our evidence of his fingerprint was right. That's, the evidence of his fingerprint was not a lie (it is actually there on the murder weapon) but our conclusion was wrong.[/b]

All these your analogy still proves that scientific evidences are not free from lies. Yes or no?

MightySparrow:
Is the name your name? Tell us another God you know by the name.

Would it be proper if I say that my name is Jealous, or I say that someone is Jealous?

Would that mean that I am bearing the name of the Almighty God or giving someone else that name?

chieveboy:
I told you that as far as destroying the Soul is concerned, the Bible erred. I tod you that the bible is one compilation of the two extremes and anything between of falsehood, truths and half truths.

On whether Paul was talking of being "caught up into the third heaven..." with the physical body, perhaps what I didn't do was open you head into two to make you see clearly that no one could have visited any planet we know with the physical body talk more of heaven.

I also didn't tell you of the Biblical scripture where it said "God is spirit and those who come must come in spirit...". Like seriously where you waiting to be told which of the two possibilities of in the body or out of it happened?

The problem you are having is that you are insisting that the bible supports the idea of a conscious and immortal soul that can travel without the body. Till now you've not proved it. Even the apostle Paul that you are quoting never used the word 'soul' in that verse. You claim the bible is erroneous, you are still strongly quoting from it to prove your point.

Now you've moved from 'soul' to 'spirit'.
Are you saying that spirit and soul are the same?
Do spirits in heaven have their own bodies?

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Aemmyjah:
You don't even give him any place to hide or breathing space

No space oo...my brother. The truth must come out.