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justlove91:
Some things are not black and white as you think. For example, if a scientist wants to calculate or solve a problem that involves large objects (macro level) Newtonian physics will do. But this can't work for quantum entities like particles and electrons, he will then have to use quantum physics.
The fact that he can't use Newtonian physics to solve quantum problem doesn't mean Newtonian physics is a lie.

We are talking about evidences here that are attached to a claim not method of solving problems. If there are two scientifically contradictory evidence that are brought out as facts to a particular claim, one must be a lie.

You've assured me here that science does not lie based on evidence. But you also have clearly convinced me that there are contradictions in the evidence of science which has made you not to accept some of their claim as facts. Does that not show that there are lies in those so-called evidences?

justlove91:
You're confused because you're looking for certainty. Science is not concern with certainty, its own is to provide an explanation for a phenomenon and then give evidence to support its claim. It will continue to hold on to that explanation supported by evidence until another evidence surfaces to dispute it.

Example, science initially view gravity as a force of attraction that objects with mass has to draw thing to itself and they have evidence to support that conclusion.

Then Einstein comes along and said no, gravity is not a force but a phenomenon that arises due to curvature in space time fabric and he was able to provide sufficient evidence to support this explanation.
In science, there is always room for improvement.

What do you mean by "I don't know which one to follow"? Nah religion?

All this one you are saying is that the so-called evidence of science could be a lie....where there are two contradictory evidences, one is a lie. So even your science lies. Na wa oo😂.

MightySparrow:
The name of my God is found in this passage:
Exod.34.14 - For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God:

Alright....is this verse saying that the personal name of your God is Jealous, or is it saying that your God has an attribute of Jealousy?

If I say someone is Jealous, am I calling that person the name of your God?

MightySparrow:
I am of living faith.
(not Winners Chapel)
Where faith in the unchangeable God is proven not explained away.

Our God is constant. No shadow of turning in Him.Jas.1.17 - Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.
Not by any Governing Body.

What's the name of your God?

chieveboy:
There are quite a handful of scientific proof on OBEs. I am not sure if its lazinessiness keeping you from using your hands to check online instead of waiting to be spoon-fed or it's just a this 'wisdom' in thinking when we don't submit such work to you, you're now Super the Black Power and such information does not exist.

To be candid, I for one didn't furnish you any scientific proof simply because so far, you have not demonstrated deductive -reasoning capacity even right from the Bible in the case of Paul talking about visiting heaven without the body.

Despite all other scriptures which clearly lets you know flesh and blood cannot visit heaven, you preferred the 'small wins' that came with my reluctance to indulge your ignorance.

There you are going back to argue with the bible again even after it has failed your soul without body theory. Just rest if you can't show me a verse that says that the soul is indestructible and cannot die.

justlove91:
Even scientists say the big bang theory is the best explanation they have for now for the origin of the universe, even though they have evidence to support it.

Also both Newtonian physics and quantum physics have very different notion of what reality is and yet both have evidence to support its claims.

😂😂😂....na wa oo...what kind of evidence is this that you claim that science has? Evidence that gets one confused. Na wa oo.....are these evidences really the truth? Even you don't know which one to follow😂.

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justlove91:
I believe what science says on the matter but I don't know for a fact that their conclusion is right. Some scientists believe we live in a simulation of some sort.

Do you think it's possible to believe something to be true and yet not know for a fact that it's the truth??

😂😂😂.....you just claimed that science supports its claims by evidence and you are saying that you don't know if their conclusions is right?
Na wa oo....after all the evidence they've shown you😂😂?

justlove91:
I still don't know, you asked what science says about the subject and I told you.

Lol....does that mean that you don't agree on and accept what science says on the Matter?

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justlove91:
Science says our universe "appeared" because of a big bang that occurs billions of years ago. And they provided many evidences, one is the background cosmic radiation which is a leftover due to the big bang.
Another is the fact that distant stars are moving further away from us, which means the universe is expanding and if the universe is expanding we can logically assume it started from a point.

Science has nothing to say about why humans are on earth.

Oh wonderful I thought you said you did not know.

Since science do not know why we are on earth, does that also mean you don't know why you are here?

justlove91:
Yes, science.

So are you saying that science has not taught you how the universe appeared and why humans are on earth?

justlove91:
Oh no, I don't know, search your answers elsewhere just make sure that elsewhere supports its claims with evidence not "it's true because I told you so"

Do you know any source that supports its claims by evidence?

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justlove91:
Lol.... How could I possibly know that? I don't, do you?

Oh really? I thought you knew. I would for answers elsewhere then.

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chieveboy:
It is only a common law of intelligence that one reads and understand the gist of a thread first before questioning it and not the other way round as in this case where you want me to start all over again feeding you answers.

Lol....why were you arguing that your idea was biblical in the first place?

justlove91:
What truth?? Bola Ahmed Tinubu is the current president of Nigeria is a truth, lion is a carnivorous animal is a truth, goat cannot fly is also a truth. So what truth are you talking about specifically?

What is the truth on how the universe appeared and why humans are on earth?

chieveboy:
You answer lies in the first post and video

Lol...ok...so you could not even bring out the answer from the video.