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immortalcrown:
My view is that there are Christians in every Christian denomination.

Stop beating around the bush. Is the caption of the post right? If yes, explain. Stop trying to change the topic.

There are Christians in every denominations means that all denominations are Christians.
Is contradiction of biblical doctrines acceptable in the body of Christ as seen in many denominations?

immortalcrown:
Don't derail the post. Catholicism means the doctrines of the Catholic. I didn't talk about Catholicism in the comment. I simply pointed out that Catholics do not refer to Orthodox and Pentecostal people as non-Christians.

If that is so, it means that your view is that both Catholics and Pentecostals are true Christians.
Therefore I asked you if contradictory doctrines are accepted in the body of Christ?

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immortalcrown:
1.
Madam, I am not angry with the poster. If you are not a false accuser, point out any sentence that depicts anger in my comment.

2.
I didn't make any attempt to talk about Catholicism because the poster has not mentioned the errors he claims to have discovered in Catholicism. So, I don't know what you are talking about in this regard.

The point is that you are a false accuser. I never said whoever claims to be a Christian is a Christian. And I am not angry with the poster. You are just a crafty accuser trying to detail the topic.

You did not talk about Catholicism? Really?
After telling us that they too are Christians as opposed to the view of the op?

Steep:
becareful, check the doctrine and teachings of any church if it is indeed scriptural before joining them.
I thank God your eyes are open to dome of the errors of Roman catholicism.
For your parents continue to be obedient towards them buy lovingly point them to christ as the ultimate and all sufficient saviour. Lead them in prayers and show good examples and very soon they would join you.

I thought you would tell us the church that has the true scriptural doctrines?

immortalcrown:
Did I say that everyone who claims to be a Christian is a Christian? Answer this question or admit that your responses to me are baseless.

Oga your reply suggest that. Why would you be angry at the op for saying that he saw that the Catholics were not following the teachings of christ and decided to leave. You insisted in your reply that the Catholics were Christians without any proof that the catholics held the true teachings of christ. Does that not imply that any group of religious persons who claim to be a Christian is actually a Christian?

lamboloosta:
I've always wondered why the advent of Christianity & Islam discarded the pre existing religious practices or traditional beliefs.

Often times I ask myself why Believers of Islam/Christianity see Believers of Traditional Practices as been archaic or immoral.

I believe everyone relates with GOD with different approaches and methods.

I'm from the Yoruba Tribe and over time I've heard many believers call GOD in many names.

Ifa Worshippers call GOD 'OLODUMARE', Christians call him 'JESUS' 'ELSHADDAI', Muslims call him ALLAH.

My question is why some or most Christian/Islam Believers see the Ifa or Traditional Worshippers as ungodly esp when they're all worshipping the same God but each belief with it's own approach.

I'm not talking about those Herbalist that worship Satan but the ones that worship God in their own way.

Even in the Bible before Christ, sacrifices and offerings were made to appease GOD (not human sacrifice) and this is what I believe the Traditional Worshippers are doing till date.

Please I'm writing based on my understanding with the hope of getting some clarity to this and probably understand better the dynamics of different Religions practiced in our contemporary world today.

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MightySparrow:
Are you afraid or you don't have an answer?

😁😁😁you've technically not asked me any question.
You've been asking who gave me right to examine the doctrines of pastors that you've recommended.
That question shows that you don't have answer to my question of if all these pastors are in agreement when it comes to biblical doctrines.

You are saying i dont have right to examine the doctrines of your recommended pastors but you've been examining the teachings of the JWs. Is that not hypocrisy?

sunnyfats:
He knew they had the tendency to, That was why He was visiting them everyday.

It's like you teaching your child to do something, and then you left him by himself.
Most parents will be happy if the child is doing well, and if the child failed, you won't be too surprised because, that is the training you are giving them, to be able to make the right decisions when you are not there.

This is my own view of what happened,
The main thing here is.

Freewill (freedom)
God said, let us create man In our image and likeness.... meaning let us create people who can think and decide like we do

This explanation doesn't still answer the question.
Are you saying that God sees the future just like human parents does?
If God sees everything before it happens as some people teach, then he must have seen the decision Adam and Eve would make even with their freedom.

FatherCHRISTMAS:
Because of you na

Ok....You obviously don't know the answer.

MightySparrow:
Answer the simple question.

Who made you a monitor of pastors and doctrines?

You've not answered mine....I thought you were the teacher here. I've been asking you whether it is wrong to examine the teachings and doctrines of many pastors Today and you've fallen short of answers.
So what right do I not have to inquire of the teachings of the pastors that you've recommended?

immortalcrown:
Which sentence in my comment warrants this question?

You are saying the op is wrong for saying that the Catholics are not Christians. I thought a Christian is one who has the true teachings of christ?
So if everyone who claims to be a Christian is a Christian, would that not mean that there are actually no false Christians, and that contradictory teachings by all churches today are acceptable by christ?

MightySparrow:
Are your own in agreement with what they teach?

Again, who made you a monitor of pastors and doctrines?

You already know the answer to the first question that you are asking me.

So you mean I don't have the rights to know the contents of the teachings of the pastors that you are recommending?
So how are we going to learn from them?

jesusjnr2020:
I don't have time to waste on those who are not will to learn but just here to ask uncountable questions.

Even Jesus Himself didn't answer every question people asked Him except for the sheep who sincerely want to learn from Him and to hear His Voice.

So it's wrong to assume you speak for everyone else instead of just yourself.

So you mean Jesus told you not to answer questions that is pertinent to his commandments in the gospel? You claimed Jesus told you to preach about his commandments found only in the gospel.
So what are these commandments?

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FatherCHRISTMAS:
Catholic is the body of Christ, the church is the body of Christ. So because a 'leaf' fell of its Tree doesn't mean the Tree cease to be the leafs Origin.
You are not making an informed decision, that's why you don't want to tell your Mum. But then again, you are going through a process. You have to touch everywhere to know and understand the "truth" (if there is any).

Why is the body of Christ divided today?

MightySparrow:
Association is by choice. I don't care what JWs teach for instance. If you care about others, that is your own choice.

Again, who made you a monitor of pastors and doctrines?

Oh so you don't care what JWs teach. That is fine.
I know you must care what those pastors you mentioned teach. Are their biblical teachings in agreement? Yes or no sir?

MightySparrow:
Who made you monitor of pastors and doctrines?

So you mean I and others should not care about they teach from the Bible. We should just be going there and whatever they teach us, we should accept, right?

MightySparrow:
They may not agree with JWs doctrines. As far as I am concerned, I am not a a JW and I don't care about your GB

I've not asked you about the JWs.
These pastors that you've mentioned, are they in agreement amongst themselves in matters of biblical doctrines?

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MightySparrow:
Great.
Look for a vibrant fellowshipp: RCF, Deeper Life, Winners,etc to attend first to have brethren you can pray with.


Then, concentrate on your personal spiritual growth, this is independent on church now. Download books of faith by Kenneth Hagin, Kenneth Copeland , Oyedepo.

Listen to messages from people like Selman, Orokpo, Gbile Akani, etc.


If you must grow spiritually. It is basically you and God. So, don't joke with the Bible. Read and meditate. No other explanation can replace inspiration from the word of God

Seek to be baptized in the Holy Spirit with the evidence of speaking in tongues.
Thereafter try to speak in tongues daily say an hour to start with.

God bless brother.

I hope I am not given too much.

These pastors that you've mentioned, are they in agreement when it comes to biblical doctrines?

jesusjnr2020:
Reminds me of how I concerned felt about Christians generally, including my parents, after I started practicing and preaching the teachings of Jesus instead of the Bible.

It seemed a mission impossible at the time but here we are 22 years later and still counting.

Jesus says anyone who wants to follow Him must deny himself, take up his cross and follow Him.

So separation is part of the required process to truly walk with Jesus.

I suggest you focus on Jesus' teachings in the Gospels, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, do whatever He says and it wouldn't matter who is against you, because Jesus will be with you always.

God bless.

Till now you've not told us what Jesus's commandments are in the gospel as you said Jesus directed you to do. You've just been leading people on a solo journey.