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MaxInDHouse:
God sent Satan to Jesus then Jesus resisted the servant of God sent to him! Matthew 4:10

Sometimes it's funny chatting with people who don't just want to listen and learn!

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Kobojunkie:
That which is right or wrong was as defined in God's Law. God had no laws stopping people from praying against evil so why do you even consider it wrong of them to have prayed against evil in the first place?

Are you joking.....you just agreed that God is the architect of all evil....so why would he tell people to pray against his evil actions that are perpertrates by his human creations?

Kobojunkie:
Satan is commanded by God, is that much not made clear in Scripture?

Do you think it makes sense for people in the bible to pray to God against evil that is to befall them if God himself was the architect and mastermind of all evil?

Kobojunkie:
Satan, the one who oversees all evil, is God's servant.

Ok....So God sends Satan to do whatever he does, right?

Kobojunkie:
Why is God to blame for the ignorance of some humans though?

God has never given humans the impression that He is only responsible for that which they individually perceive as good in this world — not at all. The book of Scripture from which you lifted your one verse, a book more than 1000 years strong, clearly indicates that from the beginning God has been the controller, and power, maneuvering all that is good and all that is evil in the land. So, isn't it stack ignorance to pretend that somehow God is the side of your very own myopic reasoning as opposed to that which is established of Him from even thousands of years before your conceiption?

So you mean God is the architect of all what we conceive as evil on this planet earth, right?

sonmvayina:
Chineke okike

What is the meaning of Okike?

Truuth:
Enki and Enli created the heavens and the earth together and everything in it.

There's this sort of council where the Gods meet, Anu with his two sons Enki and Enli, to decide the faith of the universe, even after Enki gave man knowledge he was summoned by Anu.

When the council of Gods led by Anu decided to flood the earth to get ride of nephilims. Enki disobeyed the council and saved Noah.

These Gods are holy and they gave man the laws to live by.

However, Anu gave the rulership of the earth to Enli and his son Yeshua but Enki is still very much among humans, even till today.

You did not answer my questions properly.
Is Lucifer an Evil God?

How do humans determine the standard of what is good and evil?

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Truuth:
Since man already had knowledge, he is now answerable to his deeds, because he knows Good and evil. He could now be punished for his deeds.

And that's were Lucifer comes in, he causeth man to do evil. And since mans knows evil he must pay for his deeds.

But the God who made man to have the knowledge to know Good or Evil was Enki and he is not the devil, he just didn't want man to be some kinda robot man serving Enlil, He wanted man to be free Independent creatures.

Who created Lucifer?

And how do humans determine the standard of what is good and evil?

yinkus6750:
That is what happens when people call themselves ,without waiting for God to call them.
Hope all the Church members have now seen the kind of Pastor they have.
Greedy selfish human being.

Do you know anyone that God has called?

immortalcrown:
Suit yourself.

Ok oo😁😁😁...sha go and look for the answer.

immortalcrown:
I told you that the planting of the tree is a demonstration of freedom. I told you it is not about God knowing everything. Suit yourself.

Na wa for you.....do you mean that when God gave them freedom, He did not still forsee and know what they would use their freedom to do?

Truuth:
don't you get it ??
By Eating of that tree Enki imprinted his own nature((Knowledge)) into man's DNA

Knowledge is not the cause of evil..
So the one who gave you knowledge ain't evil.

So you are saying that man himself is the source of evil to man?

immortalcrown:
Madam, when and where did I say God did not know that Adam and Eve could eat from the tree? Point it out or remain a false accuser.

I have been asking you since whether God foresaw that Adam and Eve would choose to eat from the tree and you've been talking about freewill that I did not ask you.

You believe God sees everything that happens Even before they occur, right?
If yes....it means that Even before God gave them that command he must have seen that Adam and Eve would use their freewill to eat the fruit and sin. Yes or no Oga?

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Truuth:
There would be no penalty for wrong doing if you do not even know what you doing. If a year old child does what's wrong you don't even punish the child since they don't even know what's good or bad.
That was the state of man bro, he was in a garden, eating fruit and serving enli until knowledge came. With knowledge there's responsibility. They left the garden and started their own life.

Why did God not allow them to live in the in the garden and eat of the tree of life after they ate of the knowledge of Good and evil.

The intentions are the two Gods were different. One wanted man to only serve him and the other wanted man to be free independent beings.

So in summary.....God has caused man to suffer. Is that correct?

How can man be free of suffering and problems?

immortalcrown:
God gave man freedom to either do good and reap good or do evil and reap evil. It is not hard to understand. You are just looking for a problem where there is none.

God made it clear that they will die if they eat from the tree. That's why I said the planting of the tree represents freedom. Suit yourself.

Oga I am not suiting myself.
You believe God knows everything even before they happen.
How can you now say that God did not know Adam and Eve would choose to disobey him?
You are even now using me as an example.
Am I God?

PowerofthePosit:
The Nigeria's economy is in tatters.

Inflation is acute.

The national currency is unstable.

In spite of all these, I will survive and excel.

I MUST excel, as long as almighty God lives!

So do you mean that if everyone in Nigeria recites this daily like you, no one will be suffering?

Truuth:
Anything passed on from generation to generation would contain some errors but since these texts was written thousands of years before the bible was put together, then be sure that it tells the actual story.

It would shock you to know that it was Enki that saved Noah from the great flood and not Enli(yahweh)

Enli decided to flood the earth to get rid of the nephilims and because man was too knowledgeable. He wanted to restart creation.

Enki told Noah to build the ark. Enki and Enli are brothers.

Ok.....so why do humans die today according to the tablets? Why is the world filled with problems?

immortalcrown:
When you send your child to school and advice the child to be serious with education, does it mean you don't see the possibility of the child failing exams or even joining bad gangs?

I see only possibilities because I can't see the future and know exactly the decisions that they would make.

Are you now saying that the way I see the future is the same way God sees it?

Are you saying that God cannot see the exact decisions that we would make in life before we are even born?

Truuth:
The bible copied the texts from the tablets. The bible says snake, the text says Enki.

The God bible says one God. The text says "Gods" meaning plural.

Aside that there are many mistranslations and Error in the bible.

So the tablet is the true source of information and there are no lies within it, right?

Truuth:
They were ancient Egyptian summerian tablet.

So you are saying that the tablets are true as against the bible which is a lie, right?

Truuth:
I don't know, but make your research...
The tablets that told this story was written, it predates the bible.. and the stories from the not wholly true.

...what is the name of the tablet?

oz4real83:
you just want unnecessary arguments, my comment already made it clear that we have one God that has the ability to kill and also make alive.

Oga I am not arguing....if you say we have one God, then it means that it was Jesus that was also killing in the old testament na. Except you are telling me that there are two Gods.

Or don't you believe that Jesus was the God of the isrealites?

Truuth:
it wasn't the devil that told them to eat the fruit. Two Gods visited earth in time past, as well as some female gods. They created the earth and the heavens together. They were Enki and Enli.
"Let's us make man" that's Enki, and he formed man from clay while Enli breathed into man to give him life.

Enlil wanted man to only worship him, and not wanting man to have knowledge but Enki being the God of wisdom wanted the opposite. So Enki spoke through the serpent told eve to eat the fruit, so they could be knowledgeable.

Enlil drove man out of the garden henceforth.
Man before were like animals without self awareness.

There were two Gods, that was why there were two trees there. B'cause Enki and Enli co-created man.

Enli is also known as yahweh today.. Enki is not the devil but God's other brother.

What is the source of this information?

Jokerman:
God knows everything.

However sometimes we humans can sway his decisions or judgement... That's the level of creation we are.

For God to know everything means that he knew the decisions that Adam and Eve would make. So why were you saying probably?

oz4real83:
God can kill and can also make alive, he listens to the counsel of his messengers. Jesus cound have done as the prophet did, but his goals were different, he brought grace\mercy, killing the people would have been counter productive to his teachings\goals.

So does that mean that the God of the isrealites is different from Jesus? That is the question.

Jokerman:
Probably... But he hoped they'd obey him instead of listening to the devil

Probably? Meaning that you are not even sure, right?


For God to hope means that he did not know the decision they would take. Is that correct?