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sonmvayina:
Stories are different but
It is same massages in the stories....

And most times the stories are same, like the flood epic..

I actually work with details in stories.

[quote author=sonmvayina post=130039556][/quote]So what is the name of the God of the old testament?

His purpose is that righteous humans live forever on earth.

Kobojunkie:
As you read from God's Law, evil is an active choice made by individuals.

Ok......does the devil lure people to commit evil?

sonmvayina:
It is a Babylonian epic....

Not included in the Jewish scriptures...

So why is there not a Correlation in the Hebrew scriptures?

Kobojunkie:
Evil and Good are defined within/by God's Law. The Law itself is not Evil but the Law defines Evil. And God's creation of Evil is NOT against His Law.

Ok.....who makes people commit evil?

sonmvayina:
No..I don't think the God of the old testament is same as the God of the new testament...we will discuss it another time.

What is he becoming?

But do you agree that the God of the Old testament is Yahweh?

He is becoming anything to achieve his purpose.

sonmvayina:
You really need to read that book..

No..I never said human being..

I said a being..

She is the goddess of death,love,lust,wisdom,...war,and destruction. She just represents a principle..(a principalities)

She is the mistress of both God's and hmen

I am not reading any book outside the bible.
Where does the information in the bolded above appear in the bible?

Kobojunkie:
God's Law — the Will of God — is not evil, yes!

So why did God create evil against his law?

Kobojunkie:
God's Law says that which is against His Will/Law is evil meaning that which complies with His Will/Law is not evil. Humans on the other hand believe that that which is against their ideas and will is evil.

So you mean evil is not the will of God? Yes or no?

sonmvayina:
The God of the old testament or the new testament..

And what does yaweh or Jehovah mean?

The God of the entire Bible.

It means 'to become'.

Kobojunkie:
1. He created all evil, yes! and He defined that which is evil and which is not, yes! So what exactly is your question?

2. Why can't He curse them? How did you come to this notion that He wants Evil to happen to them?

3. Why can't the Israelites pray to Him who is the source of all good and evil that befalls them?

What is God's definition of what is evil and good?

sonmvayina:
Not in the Torah
But in the book of Jeremiah and Isaiah...

Spoke of Lucifer in Isaiah 14

Jeremiah spoke about the queen of heaven...

So proper research as done by that book has shown that they are both one and same being..
Inanna, aphrodite, Venus isis,alat,osun,Ishtar, astarte and Kali ...all the same being in differnt cultures..

Is lucifer a human being?
How do you come to the conclusion that lucifer in Isaiah 14 is the queen of heaven in Jeremiah?

sonmvayina:
Yes they do...

Lucifer is a she..

And the queen of heaven.

It was her cult they metamorphosed to Catholicism,

Where Is this information in the Torah?

sonmvayina:
All of humanity...that is what I mean..

We are divine beings just having a human experience

So we are the source of the commandments found in the Torah?

sonmvayina:
What is the God of Akwa Ibom called

And what is the name of the God in the Bible?

Which God..the God of the Tanakh (Old testament) or the Christian God??

I don't know the God of akwa ibom.
The God of the Bible is called Yahweh or Jehovah in English.

sonmvayina:
Me and You...

Are there others too?

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sonmvayina:
Yes they do...

Lucifer is a she..

And the queen of heaven.

It was her cult they metamorphosed to Catholicism,

Where is this information in the torah?

Kobojunkie:
I am afraid I am not even following your line of reasoning even up till this point.
God is the one who gave those sicknesses — evil — to the Egyptians. And He is the same one who told His people, Israel, that if they would obey Him, He would not give the same sickness — evil — to them. So, what exactly are you attempting to argue? Explain yourself better!

2. Isn't it written in the Law that if the people obeyed Him He would deliver them from their enemies... aka evil to the Israelites?
And if the people do not obey, God Himself would curse them. So, again, what are you attempting to argue?

Oga is God not the source of the evil committed by the isrealites?
Is he not the source of their enemy nations?

So why is he cursing them?
Why is he Saving them from Evil since he wants evil to happen to them?
Why are the isrealites praying to him since he is the source of all good and evil deeds that befalls them?

sonmvayina:
Because they contain divine commandments...

Lol....who is this divine person?

sonmvayina:
You need to read it...

And get back to me..

I'm not going to read it.....do this book and the Torah agree?

jaephoenix:
Can you be more explicit of 'good' and 'evil'? Those are ambiguous terms and need more explanations

What do you understand to be good and evil?

Kobojunkie:
1. Did God save them from evil every time they prayed against evil or did God allow His Will to take precedence in all of the cases?

2. According to God, He only answers the prayers of the righteous, and even then, He does so according to His Will, so where were the ancient Israelites all righteous people that God would answer all of their prayers against evil?

Oh so you even agree that God saved them from evil....so why have you been cunny?

Why will God save the isrealites from the same evil that he is the perpetrator of? Is that not conflict of action?


Why will God only answer the prayer of the righteous when he is also the perpetrator of unrighteousness?

jaephoenix:
Yup

Do you agree that good and evil exists?

sonmvayina:
I got my first from the elders in my village..then when I could read, I read it also in the Torah, and then in the vedas, and lastly the laws of Ma àt

How are you sure these sources contain divine commandments?

jaephoenix:
What u should understand about Christians is their brains work like robots. They have a preconceived answer to questions. And those answers are engrained in their brains like bots.Their brains cannot process that questions, and this question is one of those questions their robotic brains don't have answers to. So any question that they don't have answers to, they walk around it or ignore it. And if you ask these questions a million times, u would get a robotic reply which is completely off point.
This is how a theist brain works

Meaning you are an atheist right?

sonmvayina:
Lucifer is the goddess of death.
She is a deceiver...

She is an enemy of Marduk.
She is the so called queen of heaven.

She is also Mary the mother of Jesus in Christianity..

Source of this information?

Kobojunkie:
Let's go back through the conversation at this point................... So, according to you, God never asked people to pray against evil... but people did it anyway and it never stopped evil from rearing its ugly head anyway, so why are you asking me why people pray against evil anyway? Clearly, I am not the joker in this case!

Oga so you mean God never saved anyone including the ancient isrealites who prayed for success against their enemy nations in the bible?

So you mean God was not listening to Any prayers?

sonmvayina:
Keeping the divine commandments

Where can one get the divine commandments?

Kobojunkie:
1. Be more specific, please! Quote the exact commandment where you have God commanding His people to pray against evil.

2. Start by specifically revealing the command in question and we go from there.

You are a joker.....I never said God 'commanded' people to pray against evil.

In Jeremiah 20:17, God assured the isrealites that their enemies will not prevail against them because he is there to save them. The isrealites prayed to God for successes in wars.

How do all these makes sense when both the isrealites and the nations that are seen as evil are all
Actors acting out the script of the creator?

Does it makes sense for worshippers of God to pray against evil since God is the architect of all evil that are perpetrated by human creations? Yes or no oga?

sonmvayina:
The name of the creator.in Igbo...

What is the name of your God
And what tribe are you?

I'm from akwa ibom.
I worship the God of the Bible.

Kobojunkie:
Where exactly do you have God telling people to pray against evil since I am not even certain whether you are roaming around the Old Law of Moses or the New Law of Jesus Christ?

Both in the old Law of Moses and in the New Law of christ, people have always prayed against evil.

How does that make sense, since the person they are praying to is actually the architect of all evil committed by his human creations?
So what's the point of such a prayer?