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Emusan:
Good as you know.



Your GB were chosen by God, isn't it?

Why are they not doing what Politicians couldn't do?



My post said use your "God given wisdom" or did I say God told me someone?

Well, the clear point here is that your GB who claimed to be RULING by Jehovah, Jesus Christ and Holy Spirit can't achieve ALL WHAT YOU LISTED ABOVE.

Yet you want to put the blame on Politicians.

So are you saying that Tinubu is President today because his voters used their God given wisdom?
I heard some pastors say that Peter Obi was anointed by God to be the president.
So does that mean that they were lying?
So do you see why we need to agree on the politician to vote for?

Emusan:
Very funny of you people.

I know it's not about the church that people attend that is making you people to be asking always WHICH CHURCH DO YOU ATTEND?

But because you people just want to use that as a defensive attacked, that is, quickly Google what negative things people have said about such Church and quote it.

That is why someone like me will discuss with you based on the scriptures and not about where you worshipped.

Please can I join you to worship this Sunday?
Where are we going to meet?

Aemmyjah:

The one that was going from church to church to win hearts
Making churchgoers stop addressing Jesus as leader but that politician as leader yet they persecute us for not acknowledging or supporting him...

😁😁😁we cannot conclude yet oo. Let him use his mouth to tell us😁😁😁

Emusan:
You already said JWs aren't Christian.

So why the question?



because it's not about DENOMINATION as seeing in the scripture but ABOUT THE TRUTH OF JESUS CHRIST called His Body the Church.

So where do people who teach the truth of christ meet in Nigeria so that I can join to worship with them.

Aemmyjah:
U attend one that has a name
Yet, u can't mention

Many people here can easily identify us by our religion

You have joined Kobojunkie and Steep as members of the lost, unknown church with unknown worshippers all over the world yet una no de agree

😁😁😁😁😁.....their matter don tire me.

Emusan:
You access them with your God given wisdom.

After all, you will welcome any appointed person into the Governing Body of Watchtower who despite the ruling from Jehovah, Jesus Christ and Holy Spirit and not wicked but still couldn't achieved what (wicked) politicians can't achieve.

Human must be Governed UNTIL GOD'S KINGDOM COMES!

Now my question, since God's Kingdom has not comes, do you think human should not have leaders?

Humans must have leaders.
But which one has God chosen for us to vote for so that we will all be in agreement for that politician to win?
In the last election, who was the one that God said you should vote for?

Emusan:
Billions all over the world.

Ok fine.
But where do you guys meet here in Nigeria where I live?

MaxInDHouse:
Zambiza forest in Maiduguri Borno State!

😁😁😁😁....even if na there, I must be there this Sunday 😁😁😁

Emusan:
As long as I found The Bible I know the Truth.



because scripture never talked about the TRUE CHURCH as in NAME.

Ok...are there others that study the Bible with you and know the truth?
If yes, where do you guys normally meet? so that I can join you guys.

Emusan:
To CLAIM ALL POLITICIANS ARE WICKED shows you don't know what you're saying and you're dishonest.

Ok sorry sir.
Can you mention a good and wicked politician that you know today so that I can know the one to vote and also The one to avoid in the next election.

Emusan:
because I'm not here to promote any church but Jesus Christ and His Word.

I want you to back it up with evidence that you agree that Jws have no TRUTH then I'll take you serious.

It's evident from your post your intent.

😁😁😁Ahhhh.... Meaning that you sef has not found the true church.
Cause how can you know the true church and not promote it?😁😁

Emusan:
You're still lying.



because you're a Jws defending everything Jws but still claiming THE HAVE NO TRUTH.

MY POINT IS, YOU Don't NEED TO LIE before making your point.



Address the issue at hand first.

Oga are you implying that I would never accept all the evidences that you have brought forth to prove that the Jws are liars?
Why are you watering down your effort in my life?
You are actually helping me to see the truth here.
So please what church has the truth? so that I can eventually leave this Jw people and go to the true church.

Emusan:
The truth is, human must be governed.

The human government we have today aren't perfect because they are human but no one can erased their efforts too.

And for watchtower not achieve that means Jehovah, Jesus and Holy Spirit isn't RULING NOW because perfection to human ruling is what God's Kingdom all about.



I like this question.

Yes we keep voting whether they are wicked or not, remember God recognises human rulers.

Watchtower that is not wicked also couldn't ACHIEVE what (wicked) politicians can't achieved which means it's not about wickedness and to claim ALL POLITICIANS ARE WICKED is a false.

So can you mention a politician that is not wicked, so that I can vote for him in the next election.

Emusan:
I'm not a liar like you people.

Why must he answered that Jws has no TRUTH yet still defending the same people that has no TRUTH.

Does it make sense?

If he had addressed my point without lying I'll answer his question.

😁😁😁😁😁....so because of me, you won't tell other people about the true church? Even when we have agreed that we are liars? Na wa oo😁😁😁

Emusan:
Address the main issue and stop being childish.

Why did you lie?

You don't even know whether I am beginning to see things from your viewpoint that this Jws are lying.
Why are you so convinced that I am lying?
Show me the true church na so that I can start going there from this Sunday.

Emusan:
What then is the difference between God's Kingdom and Christ Ruling as King?



Now shifting goal post.



Don't digress here!

Anyway, it's evident now that what you are accusing the Politicians can't achieve because it's WORLDLY GOVERNMENT Watchtower can't still achieve the same with JEHOVAH, JESUS AND HOLY SPIRIT Government.

Ok...so now that watchtower can't achieve the same just like politicians, what is now the way forward?
Do we keep voting in more wicked politicians that will continue the misery or we pray for God's kingdom to come to the earth?
Which one?

MaxInDHouse:
I'm sorry you've trapped him so he will either disappear from the thread or ask you to go back to his past comments since you've refused to allow him change the subject matter!

😁😁😁we must identify the true church today.

MaxInDHouse:
He knows that there's none apart from JWs so that question will forever remain unanswered.

Questionnaire take note!

I am patiently waiting for him to tell me.

Emusan:
Why did you lie in the first place?

And you want to be taking serious

Oya I'm sorry. Let's leave JWs with all their lies.
What is the name of the true church?

Emusan:
You haven't answered them, check it properly.

This is the evidence that you people like to gaslight issue.



Teaching is different from RULING.

Is Jehovah, Jesus and Holy Spirit RULING FROM HEAVEN today?

What will happen if God begins to RULE according to the scripture?



Like I said, RULING is different from teaching.

You didn't answer my question, did Jesus rule during the time of APOSTLES?

Now, you're trying to equate TEACHING with RULING which means Jesus ruling didn't start in 1914 but from the moment He ascended to heaven.

JWs have never claimed that God's kingdom is ruling on earth now? So I wonder where you are getting confused from.
When God was ruling through kings over the isrealites,
Were they having problems?
Yes or no?

Emusan:
A truth lover won't be defending where there's no TRUTH.

You lied because you're a Jws and yet you claimed "YOU AGREED THAT JWS HAVE NO TRUTH" and even defending watchtower.



You're still lying and you don't need to lie to drive a point.



because you build your first statement on lie.



The point is, why must you lie to make a point?

😁😁😁😁....oga oya I want to repent and be going to the true church.
What is the name of the true church na?
Don't you want me to be saved?

Aemmyjah:
Greetings sir
Good morning
😊

Good morning my brother...how you dey?

Emusan:
No! Jesus has not started ruling that time.

Or you want to claim Jesus ruling started with the Apostles?



That's not the issue, the issue here is RULING (GOVERNED)

You want Politicians to provide EQUALITY, PEACE, JOY e.t.c bcoa they are RULING PEOPLE.

But Watchtower claimed Jehovah, Jesus and Holy Spirit are the ones RULING IN THEIR MIDST TODAY, So why can't watchtower achieve EQUALITY, PEACE AND JOY IN THEIR MIDST?



Already answered above.



Let your eyes keep opening.

I have already answered your questions too.
So even when Jesus was not ruling with the apostles, was he not teaching them?
So how come the son of God was teaching the apostles and they were finding it hard to obey him?
What was the reason?

Emusan:
And you're lying, why?



You already lied above.

When you're ready let me know

How do you know I am lying?
After we've pointed out JWs to be false, the next thing is to point out the true church na.
Why is that one now difficult for us to do?
Which church has the truth that you've mentioned so that I can start going there?

Emusan:
You're still not perfect after Jehovah, Jesus and Holy Spirit CONTROLLING YOU.

So, which means there's no difference between politicians and watchtower.



Nobody say ruling the WORLD.

The little ruling under watchtower through Jehovah, Jesus and Holy Spirit is what I'm talking about here.



Has Jesus not started ruling?

IF YES! Then the governing body of JWs should have ALL THOSE LISTED POINT IN THEIR MIDST.

Meaning that there was no difference between Jesus disciples and politicians of their time.
Even after they saw Jesus face to face and were following him, they continued to argue about who was the greatest among themselves.
So we can conclude that Jesus apostles and the politicians were the same.
Thank you Mr Emusan for this eye opener.

bobestman:
I think you find it hard to comprehend certain things. I can't be explaining myself twice. Go read well

Oga you've not been understanding yourself because you've been pretending to sit on the fence.
You claimed all other churches have truths which you are very sure are absent in the JWs camp.
Can we know the basis on which you came to that conclusion?
What are these truths that all other churches have that separate then from the JWs?

Emusan:
Answer my question first!

I agree with you that Jws have no truth.
So what church today has all the truth that you've mentioned?

Emusan:
Politicians can't achieve that but let's turn the table around.

Watchtower claimed to be directed by Jehovah, Jesus Christ and God's Holy Spirit.

Why can't watchtower achieve ALL THE AFOREMENTIONED in their midst?

Because we JWs are imperfect. We have never claimed to be able to rule this world and solve all the problems plaguing mankind.
Only God's kingdom on earth can make humans to be perfect and live happily without problems.

Emusan:
JWs don't have the truth of Holy Spirit not a person.

Jws don't have the truth of Speaking in Tongues.

Jws don't have the truth of God miracles in present day.

Can you tell us the truth that Jws has that others don't have?

Ok I have heard you.
So what church today has all these truths?

bobestman:
You are like someone who stock a fire and still complain of being burnt. Or a kettle who claims to be better than all kettles but forgets they are all black. When I speak against religion, I speak against all of you. I don't take sides. What I speak against are the many errors in your religions and even expose them with bible refs to show they are wrong. I always say what matters is your righteousness not religion. I never come for you cos you are the only one bad but cos YOU ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT EXALT YOURSELVES ABOVE OTHERS WHICH IS PRIDE AND BIGOTRY. When your light shine, it is ppl that will glorify you not yourself. Your wrong teachings are many and ppl can easily see but pride....

You don't take sides really?
You that just claimed that all other churches have truths that Jws don't have.
Oga what are these truths that all other churches have?

bobestman:
Go and read what I said very well and understand what I meant. Your questions are meaningless

😁😁😁 You are very dishonest..... you've just been jumping up and down. Stay one place.
You claim that all other churches are right in places where the Jws are wrong.
Oya prove it na. Tell us How they are right. Automatically the question to prove it has become meaningless and you want me to take you seriously?

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