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Christianity Etc › Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Michael547(m): 11:41am On Mar 21, 2024
Emusan:
Already answered!
Please point out your answer incase I missed it.
Stop being clever by half.
Explain the rank in which the father is greater than the son? Simple.
Christianity Etc › Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Michael547(m): 11:41am On Mar 21, 2024
Emusan:
Nothing like God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit.

What we have is God The Father, the Son and The Holy Spirit just like in the Baptismal formula In the NAME of the Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit

The first part of your question has been answered.

For the the second part, there is God the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit now as Jesus returned to heaven, that is why the scriptures says "When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all." - 1 Corin 15:28 many of you don't understand this verse with @color included.

This simply means that after the Son completed His mission, then everything we know about God will be like as the OT described Him.
Lol....so who is the father and the son and holy spirit? Are they no longer all Distinct Gods in heaven again?
Is 1 cor 15:28 saying that everyone in heaven including the angels now make up 'One Almighty God'?
Christianity Etc › Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Michael547(m): 11:36am On Mar 21, 2024
Emusan:
No! In reference to your point.
So how is the Father greater than the son in rank?
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Christianity Etc › Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Michael547(m): 11:24am On Mar 21, 2024
Emusan:
Then you should read this from my post also: "Live before you and procreate you is in RANK"
So are you in effect saying that the Father lived before the son and procreated the son?
Christianity Etc › Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Michael547(m): 11:23am On Mar 21, 2024
Emusan:
When I say you people don't have depth understanding of the discussion you are having, it'll look like insults.

God is omnipotent and Omnipresent which means God can manifest in may ways He wants and that won't stop Him to be God. This is seen in the Hebrew Scriptures.

Trinity only solved the mystery revealed in the New Testament as the scriptures shows Jesus is Almighty God, Creator and Eternal. As well as Holy Spirit is called God and Eternal and these TWO are also said to be PERSON.
So was there God the father, God the son and God the holy spirit before Jesus came to earth and after he returned to heaven?
Christianity Etc › Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Michael547(m): 11:18am On Mar 21, 2024
Steep:
he was both Almighty God and human at the same time
So how can an Almighty God say that the his Father was greater than him in John 14:28, and he does not know the hour of judgment in Matt 24:36?
Can those statements also be applied to the Father?
Christianity Etc › Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Michael547(m): 11:17am On Mar 21, 2024
Emusan:
As usual, you will ask question and your questions will be answered but when just one question is asked of you you won't attempt it.

Answer my question above!
You have said that my father is greater than me in rank, in the sense that he lived before me and procreated me. I accept that explanation. I accept that my father is not more human than I am but he is higher in rank than me.
Now in what rank is the father greater than the son?
Christianity Etc › Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Michael547(m): 11:11am On Mar 21, 2024
Emusan:
Another evidence of lack of scriptural understanding.

Jesus became A SON when He came to earth.
So before Jesus came to earth? What was the structure of the Trinity in heaven?
Christianity Etc › Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Michael547(m): 11:10am On Mar 21, 2024
Emusan:
The Father is greater than the Son in Rank



You are EQUAL to your earthly father by NATURE

Live before you and procreate you is in RANK.

Let me ask you, is your father MORE HUMAN than you?
So in what rank is the father greater than the son?
Christianity Etc › Re: What Happens After One Dies by Michael547(m):
NLSOFTWorld:
God did not made humans to kill self, but humans do, the hates, the political power, alot that i don't want to go into. Yes the world can be at peace only when humanity is respected and accepted as one
When and how will humanity be respected and accepted as one?
Infact how do you know that God did not make humans to kill themselves?
Christianity Etc › Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Michael547(m): 10:38am On Mar 21, 2024
Steep:
So only same persons can be equal? You are being mischievous sameness is not the same as equality. Yellow light and blue light are equally light but they are not same.
SO how come Jesus who is not the same person with the Father calls himself a 'son'? Please can we also call the Father a 'son'? Are you implying that the title 'Father' and 'son' means the same thing?
Christianity Etc › Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Michael547(m): 10:36am On Mar 21, 2024
Emusan:
How many times will you be taught this same thing?

Jesus and His Father are both EQUAL in essence that is IN NATURE (what makes God to be God) just as you and your father on earth are equal in the nature of HUMAN (what makes man to be human) but your father is greater than you in position.
Lol.....so What Position is the Father Greater than the son? Can I claim equality with my earthly father when I know he lived before me and he procreated me?
Christianity Etc › Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Michael547(m): 10:34am On Mar 21, 2024
Steep:
You ignored where the scripture said the word became flesh.
Is God not greater than flesh?
If Jesus became a man by taken on the human nature does that not mean the father is greater than in as er the flesh he is in?
If the father take on human flesh he could die if he wishes,
Jesus willingly laid down his life he didn't just die
Lol....so are you saying that when Jesus was in the flesh, he was no longer the Almighty God?
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Christianity Etc › Re: What Happens After One Dies by Michael547(m): 9:37am On Mar 21, 2024
NLSOFTWorld:
I don't support unjustified killing (s). But hear the truth, we humans are the problem of the world and if You Want Peace You Mst Prepare for war, and preparing for war simple means preparing to killing your possible enemies of peace

Please don't miss quote me, but that is how the world and humans have been operating for years, We Lack Trust To Each Others, and even to our self, we hate and build up hates. So killings of our follow humans will continue just as it has been from the beginning of time
So are you saying that the SUPREME BEING has made humans to kill themselves and that there is no hope of peace for humans on earth?
Christianity Etc › Re: Separation Of Church And State by Michael547(m): 9:33am On Mar 21, 2024
MrPresident1:
Church which is at Corinth
Church which is at Thessalonica
Church which is at Ephesus

These are names of cities, the church is supposed to grow and absorb the state! By their continuous good deeds husbands would see the conversation of their wives and they would be convinced to become Christians.

The church is the people and the people are the state, and separation of church and state is just a stupid doctrine

Thrr is no such thing as separation of state and Ummah in Islam, they are one and the same.

Who is now obeying the command from our Lord Jesus Christ to OCCUPY TILL I COME?
Oga....why did Jesus not fight for political power and solve humans problems while he was on earth?
Christianity Etc › Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Michael547(m): 9:31am On Mar 21, 2024
Steep:
God does not change. The person of the father is not the person of the Son and holy ghost, they are different and it is fixed because God's nature does not change.
You seem to think that Jesus Jesus divinity changed, No, Jesus divine nature as God does not change, he only added the human nature.
When Jesus died he only died in the flesh.

1 Peter 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:

If the father wants to take part in his creation he wants.
So if the father is different from the son and holy ghost, how are they equals?
If Jesus divine nature as Almighty God did not change while on earth, why did he say he did not know the hour of judgment in Matt 24:36? Why did he say the Father was greater than him in John 14:28?
So are you implying that the Father can also die in the flesh?
Christianity Etc › Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Michael547(m): 9:26am On Mar 21, 2024
Steep:
John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

Hebrews 10:15 Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before,

10:16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;

In Hebrews the ghost identifies himself as the Lord which in the old testament is yahweh.
The Holy ghost identifies himself as yahweh.
Where does the Holy ghost identify himself as Lord? Can't you see that Jesus is saying in John 8:58 that he existed before Abraham, So how does that make him the Almighty God?
Christianity Etc › Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Michael547(m): 9:21am On Mar 21, 2024
Steep:
It means the father and the Son are not the same person.
Then if they are not the same person, how are they equals?
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Christianity Etc › Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Michael547(m): 7:30am On Mar 21, 2024
Steep:
God reveals himself in the old testament, with different names, God Almighty and the "I am", the father Son and holy Spirit has one name whuch is his character. which means God's name is his character but Jesus christ is the Son's human name.
Where does the scripture refers to Jesus and the holy spirit as God Almighty and 'I am'?
Christianity Etc › Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Michael547(m): 7:18am On Mar 21, 2024
Steep:
He has a unique relationship as the Son. Yes is equal one God with the Father but has a different relationship with the father.
The scripture tells us God is love meaning love is the nature of God, the Father, Son and Spirit shows us how love is expressed within the Godhead.
How come Jesus is a son? Why can't the father also be a son? How come that Jesus who is an immortal and eternal God in heaven just like the father was able to become a creation and die? Does that mean that the father can become a creation and die also?

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