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TINTINABULATION:
There are no reasons why people should be moving from Church to Church if not because Churches are now being operated by Charlatans. The best Church is You, Your Bible & Your Knees

Do you know anyone who worship God as you've stated here?

Sand2022:
The Great Crowd is mentioned at Rev 7:9. The account says:

9 After this I saw, and look! a great crowd, which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, dressed in white robes; and there were palm branches in their hands."

JW theology has changed overtime with regards to these group, but let's focus on the current doctrine.

In a September, 2019 Watchtower, this is said:

10 "Since 1935, Jehovah’s Witnesses have thus understood that the great crowd of John’s vision is made up of a group of faithful Christians who have the prospect of living forever on earth"

The question in the front burner is, is this group going to heaven or will they spend eternity on earth?

Rev 7:9 says that they are before the throne and before the lamb.

This would certainly mean that they are in heaven. However, JW object that this doesn't mean that they are in heaven. The publication says:

"9 In 1935 the identity of the great crowd in John’s vision was clarified. Jehovah’s Witnesses came to realize that the great crowd do not literally have to be in heaven to stand “before the throne and before the Lamb.” Rather, their position is figurative. Even though they would live on earth, the great crowd could stand “before the throne” by recognizing Jehovah’s authority and by submitting to his sovereignty. (Isa. 66:1) They could stand “before the Lamb” by exercising faith in Jesus’ ransom sacrifice. Similarly, at Matthew 25:31, 32, “all the nations”​—including the wicked—​are said to be “gathered before” Jesus on his glorious throne. Clearly, all these nations are, not in heaven, but on earth. This adjusted understanding makes sense. It explains why the Bible does not say that the great crowd is raised to heaven. Only one group is promised everlasting life in heaven​—the 144,000, who will “rule as kings over the earth” with Jesus.​—Rev. 5:10."

It is true that at Matt 25:31,32 the nations being gathered before Jesus probably may not be literal. Yet we need to understand that we just don't know how this scripture will be fulfilled because Jesus will physically come to earth again. But let's go with this view that it is not possible. However, the case under discussion is the book of revelation. Let us analyse some verses.

Verse 14, 15 says:

So right away I said to him: “My lord, you are the one that knows.” And he said to me: “These are the ones that come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 15 [b]That is why[/b]they are before the throne of God; and they are rendering him sacred service day and night in his temple; and the One seated on the throne will spread his tent over them."

Notice the reason why they are before the throne. Because they have washed their robes and made it white in the blood of the lamb.

In what way did they wash their robe? JWs say that they do this by having a righteous standing and clean conscience having exercised faith in Jesus ransom sacrifice. This is where it gets messier. Now bear rev 7:15 in mind. Let's substitute.

They have a clean conscience and righteous standing, "that is why they" 'exercise strong faith in Jesus ransom sacrifice'.

That is how the account will appear if we substitute the JW understanding into that scripture. It doesn't make sense.

By saying "that is why" in that verse 15, it shows that their washing their robes qualified them for a reward, namely, standing before the throne. This will mean that their standing before the throne and the lamb can't be figurative. Remember that from verse 14 is the Elder's explanation of whom this great crowd is. In that case, you shouldn't be looking at things figurative, unless there is a strong indication for that. There is none here.

What does before the throne mean?

The 144,000 is said to sing before the throne at Rev 14:3. The JW believe that these ones singing before the throne means that they are literally in heaven. So they don't seem to disagree that standing before the throne can mean being before the throne in heaven. They just don't want to assign that meaning to the great crowd, and that is strange because of what is said further after they are described as standing before the throne.

Rev 7:15 says they render to God sacred service in his temple day and night. The GB says that this means that they serve Him in the earthly courtyard of the temple. They keep stretching the bible record out of its logical sequence. Because they detached "standing before the throne" from its logical scriptural meaning, they would need to assign "temple" another meaning. But the meaning of the verse lines up clearly. They were in heaven because of washing their robes, and their in heaven, they serve God in his temple. We don't need to squeeze the text so that it can align to our other wrong doctrine. This text has suffered in the hand of JWs because one of their theological error elsewhere demands that this text is assigned another meaning.

This temple seem to be connected with the throne of God and of the Lamb. These thrones they serve is the thrones in the New Jerusalem. See why I say so.

Rev 22
3 And there will no longer be any curse. But the throne of God and of the Lamb will be in the city, and his slaves will offer him sacred service;

Did you notice the two thrones are in the city? And that sacred service is offered there? Perhaps the two thrones of God and of Christ is the temple being refered to. Please confirm in Rev 21:22.

The third reason why this group is heavenly is because of what is said about their robe.

Rev 3:4,5 shows that white garment is given to conquerors who obviously will reign with Jesus. We see this in action at Rev 6:11 where the anointed who finished their earthly course is given White robes. It should be noted that after chapter 6 reward, the next time we see others rewarded is at Rev 7:9-15. This lines up logically. This great crowd must be in heaven. Notice another thing said about the reward of those with white robe that is interesting.

Rev 22: 14

14 Happy are those who wash their robes, so that they may have authority to go to the trees of life and that they may gain entrance into the city through its gates."

Compare with rev 7:14

"These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb."

4. The Great crowd is usshered into the spring of Waters of life according to Rev 7: . The questions is, where is this water of life found?

The marginal reference will take us to Rev 22:1,2. Let's read:

And he showed me a river of water of life[, clear as crystal, flowing out from the throne of God and of the Lamb 2 down the middle of its main street. On both sides of the river were trees of life producing 12 crops of fruit, yielding their fruit each month. And the leaves of the trees were for the healing of the nations."

Notice that the river flows from the throne of God and of the lamb. And also that the river has trees of life in it. Our next question, where is the tree of life found?

Rev 2:7
7 Let the one who has an ear hear what the spirit says to the congregations: To the one who conquers I will grant to eat of the tree of life, which is in the paradise of God.’

JWs believe that this paradise is in heaven.

Rev 22

14 Happy are those who wash their robes so that they may have authority to go to the trees of life and that they may gain entrance into the city through its gates."

19 and if anyone takes anything away from the words of the scroll of this prophecy, God will take his portion away from the trees of life and out of the holy city, things that are written about in this scroll.

You will notice a connection between the tree of life to the holy city, new Jerusalem and the paradise of God. So the Great crowd would have access to all these. Why will we not look at them as being in heaven?

What church do you belong to?

Interesting15:
Wisdom For Destiny Daily Devotional (18th March, 2024)

by Sunday Akanni

TOPIC: Why You Should Pray For Your Country (Part 4)
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I Timothy 2:1-2‬‬
[1] Therefore I exhort first of all that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks be made for all men, [2] for kings and all who are in authority, that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and reverence.
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*Message*

Still examining I Timothy 2:1-2, we should note that many of those ancient kings and rulers (in different parts of the world) are pagans, and also evil. In our current society, too, many of our political leaders are nasty and ungodly.

But why would God want us to always labor in the place of prayer for these ungodly and corrupt leaders?

Well, it is actually because of us (His children) and the fulfillment of His grand eternal agenda. See what the rest of the verse 2 says:

*"(When we are diligent in raising incense for these guys, the result is that) we may lead (or live) a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and reverence."*

So, while God is asking us to intercede for these ungodly leaders that we don't like, He is actually thinking about our own well-being. Of course, our intercessions can bring about repentance to these leaders (God wants everyone to be saved).

However, looking beyond these guys (many of them won't even submit themselves to the Lord due to power drunkenness, culture and other factors), God wants to use our intercessory prayers to ensure a pleasant environment where our services and communion with Him will keep flourishing.

*God wants us to have societies where we can easily serve Him with peace and pleasantness. And He has given us a strong formula for this: be intentional about raising incense for your leaders.* Maybe this is something some believers in very hostile societies should see and know. Maybe they haven't been diligent in carrying this out, but are only praying for something bad to happen to these leaders

*Prayers*
Pray for your head of state and government.

*Further Reading*
"If My people who are called by My name will humble themselves, and pray and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and heal their land." II Chronicles 7:14

*N.B: TO GET THIS DIRECTLY ON WHATSAPP, KINDLY SEND "WISDOM FOR DESTINY" TO EITHER 2348185021024 OR SUNDAYAKANNIOFFICIAL@GMAIL.COM*

So what exactly should the prayers for political leaders contain?

4Toluilori:
Genesis 40:4-5(KJV)

And the captain of the guard charged Joseph with them, and he served them: and they continued a season inward. And they dreamed a dream both of them, each man his dream in one night, each man according to the interpretation of his dream, the butler and the baker of the king of Egypt, which were bound in the prison.

There are specific people who God has positioned to cross our path at every stage of our lives to make our journey smooth. God places people strategically in our lives to help bring to pass a promise or a future event that is pre-ordained. It is commonly referred, as divine appointments or divine connections. Throughout the Bible, God uses these connections, for example, Ruth and Naomi, David and Jonathan, Elijah and Elisha, and Paul and Timothy, to bring people into their destiny. The life of Joseph changed when he met the cupbearer in prison. Although he was forgotten for full 2 years, all the same, it was the connection that propelled Joseph to become prime minister in Egypt. Joseph interpreting the cupbearer’s dream in prison connected him to Pharaoh in the palace to interpret the dreams of Pharaoh.

A divine connection is a supernatural act of God whereby He links up two or more people together to fulfill their destinies. They are God-breathed relationships that seemingly come out of nowhere and have the potential to impact our lives. In other words, they are vital to fulfilling the call of God in our lives. These connections are there to encourage, support, celebrate, promote, empower us and pray for and with us. It is written in Psalm 37:23 that, “The steps of a good man are ordered by the LORD: and he delighteth in his way.” Divine connections are priceless. Because God uses these relationships to direct us to our destinies, thereby bringing increase to us. We will see His guidance with those He connects us when the Spirit of God is moving and leading. We must recognize divine connections because they rarely come packaged the way we expect. The fulfillment of God’s purpose for our lives and the fulfillment of God’s destiny He has planned for each of us will greatly depend on us divinely connecting with certain people and ministries. God has and will continue to bless us with divine connections. The question is will we recognize them? Ecclesiastes 9:11 says “I returned, and saw under the sun, that the race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, neither yet bread to the wise, nor yet riches to men of understanding, nor yet favor to men of skill; but time and chance happeneth to them all.”

Beloved, the opportunity to meet the right people to advance your career or to fulfill your dreams will come together for your good. God has already prearranged for your times of increase, promotion, and blessings. He created you with a purpose, for a purpose, and to be successful! God has marked moments already laid out that are going to come across your path. Never worry or be depressed about you not winning right now but continue to look up to God for His blessings for your life because the fastest runner does not always win the race nor the battle to the strong. I pray for you today that God will give you divine connections that will confound everyone who hears about it in Jesus’ Name. To be divinely connected, add virtue and brotherly kindness to your faith because faith without work is dead. Renew your relationship with the Lord and let holiness become your watchword. Endeavor to please Him in all your ways, and then you will experience divine connection. Today, open your eyes of faith and see the good things God has in store for your future. Thank Him for what He is doing and continue to do. Amen .

What is God's solution to the problems facing mankind today?

What is God's solution to the problems facing mankind today?

DarlingtonC:
The vehicle engine overheats. So let's assume I will change the engine.

The owner is wiling to let go at 4.5m.

Please what do you think about the deal?

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