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Crosby24:
If you have a boss in office that's is human thus it makes you less human.just reason well

Oga how can Amighty be greater than Almighty.
Ok explain Matthew 24:36

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tctrills:
You have a point but that does not eliminate the fact that there is good or bad. It's just like saying there is no time if you don't have a clock to measure it.

Time is subjective....the same applies to good and bad. Both must be measured with a standard.

Crosby24:
If his father greater thus it makes him a less Almighty God? just like saying I'm a twin and my twin brother is taller than me then I'm less a twin think about it brother

The word 'Almighty' means supreme or the highest. Jesus is saying that the Father is the supreme over him. Please this thing is simple English.

Crosby24:
If he takes instructions from his father Almighty God is he less please enlighten me

He said the Father is greater than Him in that verse.

Crosby24:
Brother all animals are equal the only difference he father you. you have same attributes he's a rational being you are rational too.
God is Almighty how will he have a son that's less, Almighty can only produced Almighty.

So explain John 14:28

Crosby24:
Yes you equal to him because whatever belongs to him is yours

Lol....how can I be equal to my father...someone who lived before I was born?

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tctrills:
I think you are going off the point. The standards for good and bad are created but good and bad are not created and can't be destroyed.

How would you know what is good and bad if there are no standards to measure it?

Crosby24:
Sorry my battery run down, back to our discussion, your father is human will you now says you are less human? you know you are equally human.

But am I equal to him?

sonmvayina:
Conscience..

Our conscience...

So if the conscience is the standard, how come you said that Evil and good is embedded in God? Is God himself not suppose to be the one to create the standard?

tctrills:
No I am not saying that.

So what is the standard for what is good and evil?

sonmvayina:
What is good?
What is evil?

You could as well answer the above questions as a premise for the discussion.

100fix:
Okay, you may not believe. It’s a choice. Thank you.

You welcome

100fix:
I can’t help you. Just know you had this chance and you turned it down to look smart. May God give you another chance.

Shalom.

You've not answered my questions yet and you say I'm looking smart. You gave an explanation and I asked questions. Or you expected me just to believe like that.
If you understand the real concept of Trinity you would understand where all my questions are coming from.

100fix:
It’s right there, you can feel something in your heart, but you can’t place your hand on it.

Offices, can you not see?
The power i have as a banker to control might be greater than that of a hunter.

So you are implying that the Father is seperate from the son?

100fix:
If you still doubt, I’ll tell you, it’s all over tge scriptures, you only need the baptism of the Holy Ghost like the on day of pentecost to see it. Remember, It is hid from the eyes of the wise and prudent, revealed to babes such as would learn.

The father that dwelt in the body Jesus, as he was baptized on the Jordan. The Spirit came on him like a dove and afterwards drove him to the wilderness to be tempted. All these things were done for our ensamples as saith the scriptures.

When he was on the cross, the father that dwelt in him, cannot die. So, as Jesus became so sinful carrying all the sins of his own, the father left him, so that God could strike him- all that sinneth must die. The body cried “my father, my father why has thou forsaken me” that was the father leaving so that body could die.

So you are simply saying that the father and the son are separate and not equal for the father not to die and leave him right?

100fix:
Offices

God manifested in the flesh to do the work of salvation because all man has fallen. He manifested as a result of spoken Word through the prophets. Paul said that office was made a little lower than even that of angels. Hebrews 2 v7 kjv.

Don’t argue the Word, you have to accept it if you find it as truth and believe it. If you don’t understand, it’s different but try to be smart and raise dust. There’s no loopholes in the Word. It’s the only perfect Thing. If you have doubts, just know scriptures don’t contradict or cancel scriptures. Jesus said a kingdom divided against itself cannot stand.

The woman at the well when he told her I am He, that settled it for her.

Shalom

So how is the Father Greater than the Son If the Son was Almighty God on earth?

100fix:
He Is

It’s not what I’m saying.

It is what the Bible says.

Jesus said search the scriptures, they are they that testify of me, for in them, you think you have eternal life.

How do you then explain John 14:28

100fix:
*CHANCE TO CHANGE YOUR ETERNAL DESTINATION*

Men and brethren, hearken
Jesus Christ is God.
There is no three gods (polytheism)

Moses said “hear ye o Israel, the the Lord Thy God is one”

Genesis says “In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God”

Isiah said “unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given and His name shall be called the Mighty God”

Mathew says “The birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise, mary was espoused to Joseph and She was found with the Child of the Holy Ghost”- answer me, was God the father, his father or the Holy Ghost (Christ Spirit)? Choose one see how foolish you sound.
- and His name shall be called Jesus

John says “in the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God, and Word was made flesh and dwelt among us and the world was made by him”

Phillip told Jesus Christ, said “show us the father and it sufficeth us” Jesus answered him saying “hast thou been with me this long and don’t know me phillip? Any one that has seen me has seen the father”

Jesus said “the works i do not me but the father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works”

Jesus said “i am in the father and the father in me, and i and the father shall come and dwell in you”- the Holy Spirit.

Paul said “Great is the mystery of Godliness, God manifested in the flesh, dwelt in a body”

Paul said “in Him dwelleth the ‘fullness’ of the Godhead bodily”
Another place says that all that God was, he poured into Christ.


If my name is Peter and I’m a banker, a hunter and a pastor,
What is my name?

Will my name be banker, hunter and pastor?
The banker, the hinter and the pastor, are they different persons?

In the morning, i put on shirt and tie, go to the bank, in the afternoon, i put on jean and a hat, go into the forest, in the even i suit up and pastor my congregation.- does that make me different persons? If you see me pastoring, and you ask where is the hunter, I’ll tell you, if you have seen me, you have seen him.

Same thing- God’s 3 different offices to do different job. That’s all the scriptures and even Jesus Christ said, why will you take you own explanation about someone else? Are you calling Jesus a fraud? Or yourself an unbeliever? Because you didn’t believe Him.

I didn’t coin these out, although it is well visible in the Scriptures.

There’s a promise in malachi 4 5&6 for an 2 Elijah- one to turn the heart of the children to the fathers- (John the baptist- elijah) (Luke 1 verse 17)- the hearts of the elders to apostles.

Second Elijah- turn the hearts of the children to the fathers- our hearts to the apostolic father- in spirit and truth- apostles doctrine- day of pentecost baptism as promised in Joel 2 v28. Rev 10v7.

One Elijah to introduce the first coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, another to introduce the second coming.
One to preach the baptism of repentance another, the baptism of the Holy Ghost.

The disciples asked Jesus, said “why does tge scriptures say elias must come first” Jesus answered saying “He’s already come and killed by men and you didn’t know him” said it is “John the baptist id you will receive it”

I tell you thats claims to be waiting for the rapture, as a servant of Christ, that Elijah has come and has revealed all these things which i have spoken as well as all the mysteries of the Bible as stated in rev 10v7 “in the days of the coice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be fulfilled”

That the second Elijah had come and Gone and you didn’t know him, his name is “*WILLIAM MARRION BRANHAM*”, if you will receive it!


God’s bride has made herself ready, some will go as Word of God said, a bride will be ready anyhow.

Shalom
God bless you

Are you saying that Jesus is the same as Almighty God?

sonmvayina:
Balance of positive and negative forces...

Explain it in relation to God.
Are you saying there is evil embedded in God?

Venerable612:
Jesus is not the father and that explanation does not suggest that he is. Contrary to that, it suggests that Jesus came as human and is subject to the will of the Father (God the father).

Ok. If your explanation Means that the father is Greater than Jesus, that would still go against the doctrine of the Trinity that teaches that Jesus is coequal to God and not lesser in any way.

Bluebrain101:
It's not from his explanation. It's from the Bible. Jesus said not HE said. Jesus Christ said he and the Father one. I believe it should be self explanatory. Jesus is not God the Father. Jesus is God the Son. Okay look at it this way, If a man and a woman marries they are one right?? But the man is the head of the home even at that the head cannot do without the body. Imagine a headless body. God the Father Son and Spirit are one, they work and move together as one (a united personality)

I understand you mean 'one' in this context to mean unity and not equality of personality.
The Trinity doctrine clearly states that Jesus is equal to the Father and not lesser in anyway. That makes John 14:28 open to explanation.

sonmvayina:
There is Good in evil

And there is evil in good..

Explain

Venerable612:
Ok, I’ll explain.

There are different interpretations of what Jesus meant by saying that his Father is greater than him. It means:

1. Firstly, he was referring to his human nature, which was lower than his divine nature, and that he was expressing his submission and obedience to the Father’s will

2. Secondly, he is also referring to his divine nature by acknowledging the Father’s authority and position as the source and head of the Trinity!

Regardless of how you look at it, it does not mean that Jesus is not God or equal to God in essence and nature!

Jesus himself claimed to be one with the Father (John 10:30) and accepted worship from his followers (John 20:28). He also said that he has all authority in heaven and on earth (Matthew 28:18) and that he shares the same glory with the Father (John 17:5).

The Bible teaches that Jesus is fully God and fully man, who came to reveal God’s love and grace to us (John 1:1-18; Colossians 1:15-20; Hebrews 1:1-4).

Ok. According to your two explanation, are you saying that Jesus is the Father And not the Father at the same time?
Because Your first explanation shows that Jesus was not Almighty God on earth.
And your second explanation shows that the father is greater than the son.

tctrills:
Good and evil have always been from eternity to eternity.
They were not created and can't be destroyed.
When God created man, he hid the knowledge of Good and evil in a fruit 🍑.
By eating the fruit, man chose to have this knowledge.
Without the knowledge of Good and evil, man cannot become like God.
It was the first step in becoming like our Father in heaven.

Are you saying there are no standards to know what is good and evil?

sajb:
Genesis 1:26 states thus:

Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, after Our likeness. And let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over the livestock and over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”

Does this bible verse prove that Jesus is the same and equal to the Almighty God?

Venerable612:
I didn’t just type those things bro. I know them in my spirit. My spirit bears witness to these things - I understand them in a way that I can’t explain.

This is the verse you should pray about. It embodies all you need to know about how these three personalities are connected as 1!

John 15:26
“When the Helper comes, whom I [Jesus] will send to you from the Father, that is the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He will testify about Me . . .”

Ok. but how do you explain John 14:28

HolySpiritFire:
What you don't know is definitely above you.

Gen.1: 26; Then God said, "And now "WE" will make human beings; they will be like "US" and resemble "US".

Who did you think God was dialoguing with and referring to when HE was using the words "WE", "US" if not God the Son (Jesus) and Holy Ghost?

Oh! Maybe God was dialoguing with you abi? Ok oo, Dey play!

Does this bible verse prove that Jesus is the same and equal to Almighty God?