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onyxo76: punters in the house is there any bookie that you can fund with liberty reserve...

Bro, are you a learner? LR is down.

albacete: The good thing is that he can "demo-bet". All he has to do is to get a sheet of paper to record his profit and loss, make his selections and watch the outcome without staking a dime. Once u have an internet subscription, u can analyse games and practice all u want without having to part with any cash. Then when u get a good system, u can start betting with money.

Very good advice. However, lets not forget onething here: EMOTIONS. Paper betting alone wont allow him to master his emotions. And when he starts betting for real, a few loses will discourage his plan and before you know it, he'll find himself back at square 1 (God forbid). So, i'll suggest he starts with paper betting like you suggested. But also, he should quickly start with tiny cash bets as he continues to build confidence in the system he'll use.

neroflo57: mastas in d house,av been betng since 2010 n av neva made any withdrawal so far...av even payed for fixed matches through some groups on fbook bt still same,they were scams....nw dt av stumbled on dis nairaland thread,i feel things will get btr...so pls guyz/girls hlp me out by giving me advice on d best way 2 go abt it.am nt a greedy psn so i wont mind if am winning 1k daily,at least its btr dan notin....thank ya all

Congratulations for having found this thread. Somadila has spoken well but there are a few things he said that i wont agree with. DONT TAKE NO BREAK. You need to make all possible mistakes before major leagues start. Use this time to develop a system. Bet with little stakes for now, till you get a good system, then start betting big. However, just like Somadila said, FOCUS MAJORLY ON THE GOALS MARKETS. Other markets are for stronger punters. If you persist, you will succeed in this business. Guaranteed! WELCOME HOME BRO.

atoyebidaramola: lolz i beg no mind me jare....(M)U.A(H)

You see yourself? This man you don begin write arabic again abi? Anyways, lets hope the bort wont bully you again sha.

chalon: sometimes when the 1st half ends with 5corners bet on over 8.......but make sure it follows the trend..for ever 4cornerkicks b4 30 minutes d match must end over 8...

Udemzy is very correct. That system has been dropped before. Good system though.

albacete: I really wish we could put these guys to the test.

How about resurrecting the Punt for Pride tournament to know who is really a pro in betting?

I don tire to dey hear say person win $5,000 last night. If u are so good as u claim, drop the picks beforehand, not after the action is over.

Seconded! I completely agree! Already, i can see Rodeo dusting all of them hands down. Great thinking bro. I think we need an open contest at this point. Chei!!

Chei, i just dey laff o. Mehn, it seems some of us have lost track completely. Anyways, quick reminder, You have nothing to prove to anyone. So, lets not fear to drop picks. Winning and losing are parts of this biz. Bragging for the fun of it is no longer fun, honestly.

[quote author=udemzy_udex]Lol u go sabi preach oo..
How abt organising a crusade?
[/quote]LMAO! ROTF!!

valboy20: he thought we are fools.

drop strategy...no way

drop your picks....no way


na to come here dey form badoo

Chei, you too get bad mouth. LMAO!

Successimpact. You dont have to insult rodeo. He didnt even return your insult.

Albacet, i think i get you now and i believe we have reached a mutual conclusion. Which is: if a punter must follow the odds, then due diligence must never be ignored. In other words, look road before you cross. Lol.

Even a match involving a first place team (witg odds of 1.20) and an opponent (with odds of 7.20); would have sent punters into thinking that the opponent is a last placed team without question. Well, brothers, the opponent was a second placed team. I think it was one of those Scotish league fixtures. I dunnö. What am trying to say is this: Odds lie a lot. Ofcourse, already, one would have expected a 10-0 result but many that only looked at the odds without further analysis would have been shocked to see a draw. Or worsestill, a home loss. Anyways, let me rest it here.

Albacet. I was actually very aware that you used 'might' in your previou post. My intention was getting you to re-emphasize that word (might) so that newbies wont get their fingers burnt. That aside. I want to oppose your shortrun and longrun theory very quickly. You see, following such odds is same as following the bookies. Right? Now, i will dare you to point out anyone (i mean, one person atleast) that has succeeded doing this without MM. I can guarantee you there is none. Infact, i have come to understand that the odds are actually meant to decieve punters (mosttimes) as many (not all), actually do not depict what the true outcome of a fixture will be. Take for instance a match between a 17th place team (odds: 1.90) playing against an 8th place team (3.10). Now, going by your theory, if i follow such odds, i should smile in the longrun shey? WRONG BRO.

albacete: I don't quite agree. U see, every football match is unique and a team might score more goals when they have a formation like 4-4-2 or even 4-5-1 because maybe their lone striker has d ability and consistency of converting assists to goals. On the other hand, d team with d formation of 4-5-1 can be said to concede fewer goals (IMO).

If u want to bet on the goals market, the odds are an indicator as to what range of goals the match will produce; the lower d odds, the more likely the result. And again, I doubt the possibility of knowing the formation of even the top notch leagues before the start of the match. Even if u are able to know d formation beforehand, what about the not-so-known leagues (Armenia, Slovakia, South Korea,...).

Every given match has its statistics well represented in the odds. If a 1-0 correct score has an odd of 4.5 and a 3-0 correct score has an odd of 18.0, it is a pointer that d match MIGHT (not WILL) end up with under 2.5 goals.

Keyword here is: NOT ALWAYS. Okay, what if you see a match with odds of 1.3 for the over 2.5 market, but not enough stats to really investigate. Am guessing that most people would bet on it anyways, which isnt right. Bottom line, odds is not always something to trust.

[quote author=udemzy_udex]I disagree with u here bro...d odd doesn't matter,i once back test a system using dis method and things didn't go well...

Anyway i just wanted to get ya opinions[/quote]On point. Odds is not a good thing to count on.

teajays: Wow! That was fast! BooM!!!!!!
Fastest goal scored in Argentina history. Lmfao

3' San Lorenzo 1 : 0 Union Santa Fe
16' San Lorenzo 2 : 0 Union Santa Fe
42' San Lorenzo 1 : 1 Union Santa Fe
33' San Lorenzo 2 : 2 Union Santa Fe

OH! DEAR!!!
Serious Drama @ 2H

Go go go San Lorenzo Kill em!!!!!!!!!!

GoOooOaalllll!!!!!


87' San Lorenzo 3 : 2 Union Santa Fe

Booomm!!!! And another

90' San Lorenzo 4 : 2 Union Santa Fe


BET WON @1.51

Won? How?

valboy20: zamalek don't wanna score for me o

Dont mind them. Match ended 2-0. Not a problem for me though. Sorry bout your combo.

rodeo007: Al-Ittihad Al-Sakndary - Al Zamalek
Pick: Away win@1.50

Following..

abushman: think twice..this 2 met earlier this year and ismaily won it away...today they @ home dont see them losing it either...
Buh lets watch and see...this is football

You have a point there my friend. Infact, my crystal ball is saying homeordraw. I think am gonna sit this one out. Best of luck to us all.

rodeo007: Bet won...
Goyang Hi 0-2 Korean Police

More predictions will b coming.

Cool!

[quote author=Ile-Ife]which information una dey use style collect with all these intelligence gathering thread?[/quote]Abi o. Let them continue to dole out their personal info on an online forum, while dumbly assuming that such info cannot be traced to them. Dumb Nigerians. And to top it up, y'all dont know that every link you click on the front page is a pointer to your offline life. Anyways, who cares!

Rodeo, you are blazing hot! Keep it up mehn!!

teajays: MY HOTTEST COMBO DOUBLE CHANCE 2
FOLLOW@75%

Sparta Rotterdam - Roda@home win or draw@ WON
Atvidabergs FF - Mjallby AIF@home win or draw@ WON
Halmstad - IFK Norrkoping@home win or draw@ WON
IF Elfsborg - If Brommapojkarna@home win or@ WON
draw@ WON
1899 Hoffenheim - FC Kaiserslautern@Away win or draw@ LOST

TOTAL ODDS IS $3.66 COMBO LOST

Attimes eh, i dey fear Germany. When i go there, i thread very carefully. All the same, well done bro.

coogar: actually, i welcome healthy debates and okija has always been a good sport since i have known him except few times when he decided to be a flaming tribalist!

the girl is guilty of murder - i am not buying her story that she was about to be attacked. if the guy was into cultism, he won't be acting alone. cultists attack in packs, boys of his age attack in groups - like the ABSU incident....

Okijajuju is a good sport anyday on Nairaland. I have agreed and disagreed with many of his post before these. Anyways, back to topic. Emm... Infact, we should totally throw away the cultist excuse from the girl's argument. Reason? One will be committing a fallacy of hasty generalization when we assume that all cultists are rapists or all rapists are cultists. Hence, the girl saying that the guy did what he did because of cultism is very offtrack. BTW, i have learned to always hear another side of any argument put forward by women because 99% of them speak to win, rather than speak the truth. Sadly, in this instance, that might never happen. Question again is: did she go to the police station to report a r'ape incidence or injury to the deceased? IMHO, she went to report because she knew the guy had died that night and investigations might point the police to her in future. She clearly worked with the assumption that first to report = vindication. Sadly, she had been very ill-informed. Well, lets see how this story will evolve. Obviously, we are clearly not at its end.

Now, there are alot of girls that would have allowed the guy to have his way, then proceed to the police, just as she did lateron. She, on the other hand, took the law into her own hands and now she begging for freedom. Have we quickly forgotten the ALUU4 incident in a hurry? The Aluu people took the law into their hands and we know the rest. Afterall, it is clear that the guy's(raypist) intention wasnt to kill her. Rather, it was to r'ape her which she confirmed repeatedly in her confession. Well, i know the law isnt strictly enforced on law breakers of the guy's calibre. However, i want to believe that the law strongly forbids jungle justice! Allowing the girl to walk free would be the same as encouraging everyone to kill at will. Now, we all know what such implication that will have on society in general. Soon, women will be killing men at any opportunity and walk free, as many of them will falsely accuse their victims of attempted r'ape. Remember, this is attempted r'ape o, so, much evidence might not be required for a woman that kills a man to walk free. Oya, Okijajuju, ask yourself this question: considering these future possibilities, do you think you'll be able to share the same room at night with any woman, having slightly offended her knowingly or unknowingly during the day? Be honest. Especially, when future generations will read your autobiography with r'apist in it? Just imagine the bad image that will give you for another 2000years. Plus not forgetting that you were not given any opportunity to defend yourself. Anyways, different strokes for different folks.

coogar: 1) what's the credibility of the guy that told you about the prior arrest? has the police confirmed the deceased had previous record? this is not a customary court, okija!

2) that point is moot! not all cultists have propensity for violence. some members are recruited for other purposes ranging from connections, financial backing, etc. you will have to prove this guy belongs to a cult too - that the accused mentioned it does not make it true.

3) another weak point. there was a reason the deceased picked the knife as a weapon of choice in the first place. if he could harm the accused with his bare arms, why get the knife.

4) weak point - in the battle of sexes, the deceased(male) died and the accused(female) lived without any defensive marks, wounds or bruises.

5) someone died - reasonable force does not play a part anymore. why did she aim for his upper body knowing that area of the body can cause death. she had the knife, why didnt she swing at his feet, thighs, etc? stabbing someone cannot be classed as reasonable force especially when the deceased was no longer armed.

6) read her statement again - she admitted she lunged at him with the knife. he didn't run into the blade. the accused stabbed him forcefully!

she will go to jail for murder, perhaps manslaughter if its true the man has a previous arrest!

Nice points Coogar. Am suprised at Okija's arguement here honestly. Especially for someone with a reputation for being intelligent. Anyways, we are all entitled to our individual opinion. So, i'll respect his shocking argument. But fact still remains that it is very possible to get the girl jailed for life resulting from murder. Unless we want to be economical with the truth, it is obvious that the intention behind the girl's action was to prove to the guy that she cant be toiled with. She really wanted to hurt him in order to teach him to stay clear of her anytime in future. Sadly, at the time, she couldnt imagine death anywhere in the picture. Believe it or not, there are violent girls out there that would slap or stab any guy at the slightest provocation. Besides, we've heard how bad this guy had been. However, she has not given us enough hint of her terrible tendencies aswell. The thing with Okijajuju is the same problem with most men: which is, ignorantly assuming that all females are angels. Hence, blocking their sense of logic when it concerns woman matters. Look, just as we have prisons filled with men, there also exist prisons and psychiatric hospitals overpouring with females. Summary, it can be ascetained that the girl commited murder. Now, if the judge decides to be lenient due to the actions leading to the accident, then fine. Point is, she intentionally stabbed the guy. In other words, she commited murder. Pure and simple!

lynpetra: Was she suppose to deny??Weda her story has some loopholes or not,she acted in self defense.There is a difference between trying to be smart and trying to be logical.A good judge wud see the first wen u present ur own case.

What exactly are you saying here girl? Smart? Logical? Cant one smartly state a logical argument anymore?

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atoyebidaramola: yea dis rily a tough encounter match..i just fink a medium Mallorca will dominate in the air against a strong betis

Home win looking certain. Please remind me never to oppose your bets again. Lol.

atoyebidaramola: SINGLE BET TO FOLLOW@65 PERCENT

MALLORCA -:- Betis

PICK@HOME WIN
0DD@2.38
AM STAKING 2K ON DIS BET OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Very risky. Away or draw seems better IMHO.

rodeo0070: You still don't get it, do you?

No. You still dont get it do you? Infact, i will strongly recommend you immediately change your ignorant assertion to: THERE IS NO SINGLE CAUSE FOR CANCER instead of There is no known cause for cancer. Like i earlier said, a lot of causative factors have been linked to cervical cancer (one of which is hepatitis), breast cancer, skin cancer (sun) etc. And to correct you finally, when you say "no known cause", then you must be refering to a recently discovered deadly disease (cant remember the name now). It is quite alike the bird flu pandemic, exept that it is infectious at close contact and transferable from human to human. As at now, no known cause has been associated with that disease that's killed 3 people already. Get it now?

dominique: What he means is there's no known specific cause(s) for the disease. Researchers can only speculate based on the lifestyle of those earlier diagnosed. take late Hollywood actress Dana Reeves for example, she was diagnosed with lung cancer having never smoked a day in her life and led a vegetarian lifestyle for most of her life. What can we say caused it? I know some people that basically survive on microwaved foods yet they live many years. For those that carry the gene that makes them more susceptible to the disease, we still don't know what led to it. Doesn't mean one shouldn't take necessary precautions to avoid tho.

Vegetarian huh? Look my dear, something must have definitely caused her cancer. Gene perhaps. Vegetarianism is no lone ticket to cancer-free existence. FYI, our bath soaps, perfumes, etc also contain toxins. Hence the need to support a preventative diet with regular rigorous exercise aswell. Perhaps it was the toxic buildup in her body or her genetic predisposition that led to her death. Yes there is a multiplicity of causes for the cancer phenomenon; botttom line remains: causes exist for cancer. Fini.