AntiChristian:


You call yourselves Christians when Christ doesn't even know that name!
Names do matter! Islam and Muslims were given by Allah! And our Prophet was the first of Muslims of his time!
The ignorant one is clear in this thread!

Your IQ is seemingly low to discuss issues on a public fora like this

Do you know that original meaning of Islam is ' surrender' that is by force. Today, that jihad is not popular, your people resort to terrorism to act out the real meaning of Islam. This was proven by Mohammed himself.

Maybe Allah is punishing Borno for the sin of blood shed since Uthman Dan Fodio.

Petalss:

Mentioning my name quoting MAX. Explain to me what it means.

Antichristian is an ignorant jihadist.

Does it matter who gives names to what? Largos, portharcourt, Nigerian, even America were named by people outside their tribes. Even Yoruba!

Just leave him with his ranting.

AntiChristian:
You're an ass!



It only seems you're catching cruise with your ignorance! It cool to remain ignorant. You can answer the question yourself!

Why did Yahweh give Dangote wealth than all your generations put together?

Answer the above and you have your answer!

Why Did Allah send Mohammad to annihilate Jews and Christians without mercy still using their history and scriptures?
Is it because your generation is richer than Dangote's?

AntiChristian:


Seems you've got a low IQ!

How many Prophets exist between Adam and Noah?

Allah destined it so that there be no prophets between Ishmael until Muhammad.

All the Prophets came from Isaac untill John the baptist and Jesus who were the final.

The reason is the reason why you are poorer than Dangote.

Allah destined it so!

Aha, are you a potato?

Why did Allah forget about Ishmaelites for so long about 3000 years and when Allah would appoint a prophet from Ishmaelites, the prophet received a revelation that distorted Jewish history and to annihilate them. Why not the history of Arabs?

Okay, Allah didn't reckon with Ishmael's descendants, why, why, why!!!!!!!

Give answer please.

Janosky:

Oga ,why are you TWISTING the holy scriptures?

Did John the apostle write John 1:1-3 & John 5:26?
Yes
Did the God who granted you life to Jesus, also granted life to you, Sparrow?
Yes.

According to the screenshots evidence referencing John 1:3 , Hebrew 1:2 & Colossians 1:16, is Jesus the instrumentality of creation?
Yes.

Oga, is your instrument the same being as you who use that instrument?
No

Likewise,is God the Creator the same being as the Word His instrumentality?
No.


Did the screenshot evidence of your Trinitarian Bible scholars claim that Jesus is the First Cause?

No .

Did the screenshot evidence of your Trinitarian Bible scholars differentiate Jesus from his Father the Creator?
Yes

@ Romans 11:35-36 & Revelation 3:14, did Jesus come through your heavenly Father?
Yes.

According to Emusan your fellow Trinitarian, did "the Word came out of the mouth of God" his Father?
"If God did not speak,"the Word (another being) would not come out"
God did not come out of himself.
Another being came out of God.
Trinity wotowoto. In the mud.


Screenshot evidence.

Did Jesus the Word exist when he had not come out of the mouth of God His Father?
No.

Did light exist when God when light had not come out of the mouth of God our Father?

No.

Oga,is your instrument equal with you?
Why would you claim that God the Creator is equal with His instrumental his son?
Oga, your claim FALSE, your Trinity doctrine wotowoto. In the mud.

Janosky!!!!!!!!??

Are you really saying that God spoke only once and that word was Jesus and the word was the creator of other things? Then God shut up His mouth ever since? Or the Word here is some form other than a vocal expression of a wish?

Please explain more.


Your response is interesting and pregnant and pregnant with many questions.

AntiChristian:
Imitation of what? The Bible that's a biography of Jesus plus the works of Paul and some others?



Distorted Jewish stories that are more sound than what your Bible presents! Before Jesus there was no human dying for sins!

Allah didn't abandon anybody! Your question does not make sense! It's like you asking why are you poor and Dangote is rich!

Makes no sense!

Mention two prophets between Ishmael and Mohammad from Ishmael's branch. If there was, what was their message. If there was none, why?

AntiChristian:


You are a liar!

Islam forbids imitating Christians and Jews!

The Muslims have no need to imitate any of the other nations in matters of religious rituals and acts of worship, for Allah has perfected His Religion and completed His Favour, and chosen for us Islam as our religion, as He says (interpretation of the meaning):

“This day, I have perfected your religion for you, completed My Favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion.” [Al-Maidah 5:3]

Islam forbids the Muslims to imitate the disbelievers , especially the Jews and Christians, but this prohibition does not apply to all their affairs, rather it applies to matters of their religion and things that are unique to them, by which they are known.

It was narrated from Abu Sa’id al-Khudri (may Allah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “You will certainly follow the ways of those who came before you hand span by hand span, cubit by cubit, to the extent that if they entered the hole of a lizard, you will enter it too.” We said: “O Messenger of Allah, (do you mean) the Jews and the Christians?” He said: “Who else?” (Narrated by al-Bukhari, 1397; Muslim, 4822)

This hadith indicates that it is haram to imitate the Jews and the Christians, and that those who follow them and tread the same path as them are criticized. Islam has reinforced this prohibition, by describing those who imitate the disbelievers as being of them.

It was narrated that ‘Abd-Allah ibn ‘Umar said: The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “Whoever imitates a people is one of them.” (Narrated by Abu Dawud, 3512; classed as sahih by al-Albani in Irwa al-Ghalil, 2691)

Quran itself is an imitation. Before Mohammadmmd there was no prophet from Ishmael. All the stories in Quran are distorted Jewish stories.

I asked you to explain why Allah abandoned Ishmael's generations from the time of Abraham till the time of Mohammad.
You have not answered.
Maybe any of your brothers have any answer.

AntiChristian:


You lied he's my Imam!

If you don't know the meaning of a word then don't say it.

I don't know him. To me he's not a Muslim.

So how is he my Imam?

It's not a joking matter!

They are not Muslims!

Muslims don't call on Muhammad or Jesus or Mary or Jilani or Inyas or Angels or Jinns or any other person in prayer for help!
We call on Allah alone!

Lie.
I know you are Yoruba.
Tell me the meaning of this Proverbs:

Bi o tí wuni ni a ṣe nṣe ìmọ̀le ẹni. Bi o bá wumi, mọ lẹ fi apa ẹlẹdẹ ji saari.

Petalss:


Is Odumeje your pastor?

It doesn't matter.
Islam is a copyc.

AntiChristian:


May you be cursed if he is NOT my Imam!

Why the lies?

Why cursing nah?
Is he not an Islamic preacher?
Muslims don't have anything of their own but to copy Christianity and when impossible to criticize.

Bless you brother.

Youareforgiven:

✝ Malachi 4:5

"Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD: "

KJV Bible

Do you now see that Jesus Christ is the Lord in this scripture. He sent Elijah aka John the Baptist before His coming. Malachi 4:5 said that Yahweh will send Elijah.

I am watching

AntiChristian:


Where's the confusion with a scammer?
Where's the mockery?

You can't answer question on what you don't understand yourself!

Your Iman conducting deliverance in the name of Isa.

Where is Mohammadmmd and his name?!

joefelin2345:
Not at all: Remember that any fight against BH is a fight against the North plssssss.

It is only one part of the country punishing their people that refused to train them. Is it people that have time for banditry in Aba or Alabaro Ariaria market? Or Yoruba in their classroom and shops? Or Agatu on their farms.

They merely giving back to their society what it made them.

Petalss:

I [b]acknowledge that Jehovah's Witnesses do not adhere to the doctrine of the Trinity. [/b]However, are you asserting with certainty or merely expressing your opinion that the God they worship, known as Jehovah or Yahweh, is fundamentally different from the God you worship, also referred to as Jehovah? Could you clarify the distinction you see between these two, if any?

They are the one preaching Trinity with their NWT translation.
Just read John 1:1 , it presents plural gods different from what trinitarians both teach and believe.

AntiChristian:


Old man!
You suppose don ja than all these scam na!
Chai!

Agba o kogbon looto o!

Is this not confusion?
The same you are doing on Christian platform making mockery of Islam.

AntiChristian:
The concept of the Trinity—the Christian doctrine that defines God as one being in three persons: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit—has been explained through various analogies and theological frameworks. Here’s a summary of some of the best ways it has been explained, along with the corresponding impediments to each explanation:

1.Water Analogy
Explanation: Water can exist in three states: liquid, ice, and steam. Each state is fundamentally water yet manifests differently.
Impediment: This analogy leans towards modalism, suggesting that God merely changes forms rather than existing simultaneously in three persons.

2.Triangular Analogy
Explanation: A triangle has three sides and is one shape. Each side represents a person of the Trinity, unified as one entity.
Impediment: This can imply that the persons of the Trinity are merely parts of a whole, which can lead to a misunderstanding of the distinctiveness and co-equality of the three persons.

3.Roles of a Person Analogy
Explanation: A person can be a parent, a child, and a sibling simultaneously, showcasing different roles while remaining one person.
Impediment: This analogy risks falling into partialism or modalism as well, blurring the lines of individual personhood within the Trinity.

4.Sun Analogy
Explanation: The sun represents the Father, its light represents the Son, and heat represents the Holy Spirit. All are aspects of the same source.
Impediment: This analogy can imply that the Son and the Holy Spirit are not fully divine as they are merely emanations from the Father.

5. Mathematical Analogy
Explanation: Using the equation 1 + 1 + 1 = 1, this analogy emphasizes the unity of the three persons in one essence.
Impediment: It can confuse those unfamiliar with advanced mathematics and may not effectively convey the relationship between the three persons. 1+1+1= 3 not 1.

6. The Egg Analogy
The egg analogy explains the Trinity using an egg's three parts: shell, egg white, and yolk, which together form one egg. It illustrates unity and distinction. However, it risks partialism, implying each part is only a portion of God, and oversimplifies the complex relationships among the three persons.

So what is the best way to explain trinity without embracing modalism, partialism or debasing God from what He is not?

Antichristian, you are discussing a topic you don't know and are not part of.

Islam you are trying to defend is a confusion.
See this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FcD3n44_sI?si=hW8Cu6LIIsmWub7n

See , you you cannot compare fake with original.

Lumarstone:
Allah is supreme

Who is this Allah?

The other arm of the religion than yours

Janosky:



God spoke the word & another being called "the Word" came into life.

According to your own Bible @ John 5:26, the God "granted life to " whom?

According to John 1:1 - 3, if everything was created by the Word which should be outside His creation, do you say Jesus created Himself, being the Word?

Janosky:


Nobody can understand or measure the mind of God.

That is the simple summation of Isaiah 40:13.


@Isaiah 40:7 "spirit of Jehovah " is the proper context to understand Isaiah 40:13.

Trinitarian scholars and JW's agree on this fact.
This is the rendition of many Trinitarian Bibles.

You have not answered my question Janosky

If God created everything with His word, with what did He create Jesus?

Kingsempires:
No mind antichristian

The guy is forming to know the Bible more than Christians.

Let us wait for his answer.

I think his prophet started his prophethood based on jealousy.

AntiChristian:


This is false again! The islamic Calender is 1446 at the moment! Recalculate again!



Allah didn't leave the world to itself at anytime. He is definitely in control at all times!

Also He does whatever He wills when He wills.

You should tell us why Yahweh decided to stone rebellious and stubborn children but you were not stoned?

Why did Allah forsake Ishmael's children and Mohammed had only the story of children of Isaac in the Quran?

I go with your logic:
So it pleased Allah to abandon the children of Ishmael from Abraham to after Christ.

Why is that?

This is our best time!
Nigerians are becoming nuisance everywhere. It is time to rise up and take our destiny from the hands of prodigal fathers.

Many more to be deported from Europe, America, Germany etc. Then we will challenge our challengers

AntiChristian:


Olodo niyin sir!

Generally Islam is what all Prophets practised. The particular Islam from the Prophet salallahu alayhi wasalam started about 1500 years ago!

Jehovah was created as a name some centuries ago! It's not up to 1000 years!

Antichristian.
Islam is only 1404 years old.
Mohammed himself was born 570A.D.

Why would Allah leave children of Ishmael for so long that no prophet came through him but only Mohammad and all that Quran ever mentioned is about Hebrew's stories not Ishmael?

Where was Allah for those years?!

AntiChristian:


Who is Jehovah 1000 years ago?

Jehovah remains the same even before 1000 years ago. Islam is not up to 700 years nah!

MaxInDHouse:


When i see such things i just laugh because it's dead on arrival as there is no spirit that's going to work with those pioneering the doctrine.

Jesus did not teach his disciples to sit in worship centers but to their neighbors homes to preach and teach anyone who is willing to listen {Matthew 10:11-13} but since Satan has disabled many claiming they are followers of Christ by rendering them idle only to appear in worship centers on Sundays that makes it easy for honest hearted and sincere individuals to IDENTIFY Jesus' group today!

Prove from the NWT that Jesus asked Governing Body to build kingdom Halls.

AntiChristian:


Is the Qur'an being used by RCCG?

Wetin concern Qur'an with the thread?

Is Quran the word of Jehovah?

AntiChristian:


Use your Google old man! You'll see it!

Jesus is not God at anytime forever!

Prove it from your Quran

Initially I thought Obaseki was not working but I have to change my mind.


The lies against Okpebholo also is attracting my sympathy.

They peddle the lie that he cannot speak English. How did he become a senator?

I watched a clip of his interview with on BBC.
I was wondering, if BBC could air his interview, not NTA, or any other Nigerian television house, I believe it was brutal political strategy to destroy him.

I will likely go for Akpata because of Peter Obi anyways.

Janosky:

Jesus is "the first born of every creature ",
God's first creature ( "begotten before all worlds", according to your Trinitarian mentors).
Express image= spitting image, carbon copy is not original.
That's the difference.
You Comprehend?
.

Go observe your first born.
Which of your child is your spitting image more than your first born?

None!!!

I agree Jesus is the firstborn of every creature not every created.


Anyway, Jesus created everything according to the scriptures.

If Jesus created everything by His word, (Heb. 1:2; John 1: 1 -3 ) with what material was He, Himself created?

Please answer directly with relevant scriptures.

FuckSilly:

Imagine the audacity
Developmental fee for a private school and business?
Like I should help you develop your business even after paying school fees

The development fee sef pass tuition.

Westin Musa no go see for gate.