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MaxInDHouse:
The same man said "By their fruits you will know false religionists" {Matthew 7:16-17} so can you mention the qualities of the fruit of God's holy spirit that you found among those you say i don't believe today?
Or is it just their so called miracles alone that makes you quantify them as true servants of God? Matthew 7:21-23🤔

What about fruit of delusion in jw.org?

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MaxInDHouse:
Now read the below before you deceive yourself further:

A first century youth about 33 years old said:

“I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me" John 14:6

Because of this statement most people who knew how he was born and how he grew up became offended and so 99.9% of Jews including some who had been following him before then turned against him. But today you claim to believe this same man even though you never saw him like those people did yet you claim to believe in him.
Please how do you manage to believe in a first century man who uttered such a statement without knowing him in person yet refused to believe an organization today claiming they are the only group practicing what he taught?🤔

You claim to know Him in person but deny His wonderful works among men today. You deny the apostolic legacies. Deny the operations of the Holy Spirit and resort to philosophy of men. You are not sure that when you call on Him, He would answer you. How much of Him do you know?

People that know Him and know His voice, you condemn them.

You explain the workings of God away by Hebrew and Greek.

Isaiah 29:13
Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of menGoverning Body)

MaxInDHouse:
It's OK you can continue with your church if you and i don't agree there is no wahala!🙂

Is that your final answer?

Truth can be established by what happens and what does not.
In my own church, we take wholistic view of the entire scriptures. If the clergy or editors added footnotes, addendums that do not contradict evidences, they are acceptable.

The Bible contains fewer words of God directly others are records, history, letters, imageries like poems,songs, opinions, even demons talked about Jesus and Paul in the Bible? The demons said that which is true about them!

You see my friend, every church organization has its own community truth. That JW.Org community truth is superior to others is a lie.

God punish the hypocrite. For how long was Nnamdi Kanu,what did he say?

Let the Chief Priest do the prayer 🙏.

Kaa4:
All these happened, yet some people want to change history!!

Yorùbá is the race to beat in Africa.
Don't mind the noise making yarinbo seeking attention.

MaxInDHouse:
The clergy back then don't want anyone to fault whatever they say so if someone raises any objection regarding their dogmas they will quote those verses for him.
Then such a person must prove he is truly a disciple of Jesus by staying with snakes and other dangerous animals, drink poison and other evil things that will surely kill him after all he claims to be holier than them.
That is how they control people back then.
When you hear that most true Christians were killed cruelly that is what happened to them, the clergy back then will quote these verses for you and force you to drink a deadly poison or throw you to carnivorous animals that can kill their plan is to kill anyone who kicks against their dogmas.
So once that person dies they'll tell everyone:
"Can you see he/she lied?
If Jesus is truly behind him why did he die after drinking the poison?"
So they added it to kill anyone who kicks against them.

Another verses added is Matthew 17:21

They knew that most people will like to please God so they will tell you to fast like Jesus after all you claim to be holier than them knowing fully well that you will die of hunger.

You can make research to know more about how the clergy killed many people for kicking against their dogmas in the dark ages!

Although Mark 16:9–20 is absent from some of the earliest surviving Greek manuscripts, nearly every statement in Mark 16:15–20 is confirmed elsewhere in the New Testament.
Jesus' command to "go into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature" (Mark 16:15) is repeated in Matthew 28:18–20, Luke 24:46–49, and Acts 1:8. Its fulfillment is seen throughout the book of Acts (Acts 8:4; Acts 13–28), and Paul states that the gospel had been proclaimed throughout the known world (Colossians 1:23).
The declaration that "he that believeth and is baptized shall be saved" (Mark 16:16) is fulfilled in the conversions of Acts 2:38–41, Acts 8:36–38, Acts 10:44–48, and Acts 16:30–33. The warning concerning unbelief is reaffirmed in John 3:18 and John 3:36.
The signs promised to believers are likewise fulfilled. Demons were cast out in Jesus' name (Acts 5:16; 8:7; 16:18; 19:11–12). Believers spoke with new tongues (Acts 2:1–11; 10:44–46; 19:6; 1 Corinthians 12–14). Paul survived the bite of a venomous serpent (Acts 28:3–6), fulfilling the promise concerning serpents. The only promise without a recorded New Testament fulfillment is, "if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them." No New Testament writer records such an event. That would be testing God if intentional. However, if believed today, it will still work. Forever, I Lord is settled in heaven.
The promise of healing is repeatedly demonstrated as the apostles laid hands on the sick and they recovered (Acts 3:1–8; 5:12–16; 9:17–18; 9:32–35; 28:8–9; James 5:14–15).
Jesus' ascension and exaltation at the Father's right hand (Mark 16:19) are confirmed in Luke 24:50–53, Acts 1:9–11, Hebrews 1:3, Hebrews 10:12, Ephesians 1:20, and 1 Peter 3:22.
Finally, Mark 16:20 is reflected throughout the book of Acts, where the apostles preached everywhere and the Lord confirmed their message with miraculous signs. This summary is echoed in Hebrews 2:3–4, Romans 15:18–19, and 1 Corinthians 2:4–5, which testify that God bore witness to the gospel through signs, wonders, miracles, and the power of the Holy Spirit.


If all these things came to pass in the time of the apostles, maybe the collators and editors were wrong.
Since the words came to pass, it was not the error but the correct and believable, and God's standards for being a disciple.

Isaiah 8:20
To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

Maybe your organization should check their light and New Light.

Momodu Muhammadu, Memud. Ahmad.


Tinubu till 2032

MaxInDHouse:
Go and make your research not just swallowing false doctrines.

There are many things added by the clergy claiming Jesus said so but if you're not really interested in the truth you won't know.

Why were they added and who did?

MaxInDHouse:
OK you're not a Bible student so never mind continue with your religion because the original writing of Mark ends at 16:8 real Bible students don't just swallow whatever we see rather we do verification. Act 17:11 compare to 1Thessalonians 5:21
If that's what Jesus truly said then how come no disciple even in Bible times could fulfilled those things?🥱

But I have not seen your organization remove it from your New World Translation. Don't you believe the verses?

MaxInDHouse:
Here are the questions can you do well to answer?

1. Yes Jesus is real to me and my own church.

How to identify the true disciples.
Very easy:
Mark 16:15-18
And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

You fulfill all these, you are true disciples

Yes, there is and I belong to it already.


1 Corinthians 12:27
Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.

The Biblical Concept of Baptism
The biblical concept of baptism is not an isolated New Testament ordinance but the culmination of a divine pattern woven throughout Scripture. The Flood in Noah's day prefigured baptism, as God judged the old world while preserving those who believed Him through the ark (1 Peter 3:20–21). Israel's crossing of the Red Sea, explicitly described by Paul as a "baptism into Moses" (1 Corinthians 10:1–2), marked deliverance from slavery and the beginning of a new covenant journey. Later, the crossing of the Jordan River under Joshua symbolized Israel's transition from the wilderness into the Promised Land, illustrating the believer's passage into a new life and inheritance through obedient faith.
In each of these events, baptism can be understood as marking the beginning of a new dispensation or phase in God's redemptive plan. In Noah's day, the Flood brought an end to the old world and ushered in a new generation through whom God's purposes would continue. Likewise, the crossing of the Red Sea marked Israel's transition from physical and spiritual bondage in Egypt into a covenant relationship with God. Finally, before entering Canaan, Israel crossed the Jordan River, signifying another decisive transition—from years of wandering into the possession of their promised inheritance. Each of these events portrays baptism as a passage from an old order into a new one.
John the Baptist introduced a baptism of repentance, preparing the hearts of the people for the coming Messiah. Jesus, though sinless, submitted to baptism to fulfill all righteousness, identify with humanity, and inaugurate His public ministry. Following His resurrection, Christ commanded His disciples to baptize all nations. Christian baptism therefore signifies repentance, union with Christ in His death, burial, and resurrection, cleansing from sin through His atoning work, public identification with Him, and entrance into the community of believers. While water itself does not save, baptism visibly proclaims the inward transformation accomplished through faith by the Holy Spirit.
A remarkable feature of these biblical accounts is the activity of both water and the Holy Spirit. The Spirit of God has consistently been present in God's redemptive acts, sometimes symbolically and at other times explicitly. During the Flood, the dove returning with an olive leaf may be understood as a symbol of God's peace, renewed creation, and the life-giving work of the Spirit after judgment. John the Baptist himself was filled with the Holy Spirit from his mother's womb (Luke 1:15), preparing him for his prophetic ministry. At Jesus' baptism, the Holy Spirit descended upon Him in the form of a dove while the Father publicly affirmed Him as His beloved Son, revealing the Messiah to Israel and inaugurating His earthly ministry.
From the beginning of the Christian Church until today, this pattern has continued. In obedience to Christ's command, the Church has faithfully preached repentance, baptized believers in water, and proclaimed the ministry of the Holy Spirit. Thus, from Genesis to the Great Commission, baptism reveals God's unfolding plan of redemption, calling His people from judgment to salvation, from bondage to freedom, and from the old life into the new life found in Jesus Christ.

Courz:
They are the ones deceiving themselves. Look at how they are the laughing stock of the whole world. They are now tired of defending their Confused Governing body. I believe God has allowed the Spirit of strong delusion on them so that they will keep believing lies and end up in the pit where their leaders are going.

You get it. I have also talked about their delusion. I think I included a book, Crisis of Conscience, by a former GB member, Raymond Franz. . When they sit on the fence, that a person in dilemma is left for his conscience, they are simply saying , we are not involved in whatever decision you take.

They are really deluded.
If it had been any ministry, people like maximumside would be so loud to criticize.

The only true religion that does not have firm doctrines but rely on some people to have,New Lights, . Whereas, they had been operating under a thick darkness twisting the Bible.

Psalms 82:5
They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course.

The tribe known for this practice are more dangerous than Boko Haram and bandits. They give people slow, painful , expensive deaths than a single bullet can do.

They use the ill - gotten wealth to build their host communities and want to claim ownership.

They are the serpent themselves blended with the environment hard to identify and eject.

Sand2022:
The whole religion is built around the Gov body, not Christ.

The Governing Body advise followers against secular education to keep their followers in bondage of their 'religion'

The GB demands more from their devotees than God they claim to represent.

I stumbled on a book years back while studying eschatology. I got to a point that what they are talking about does accurately match history.

Then I discovered that some people within the fold are not fully following their dogmas. One of the loudest ones was a Raymond Franz who wrote his autobiography with emphasis on his service in JW.Org and as a member of the Governing Body.

This is the summary of his book. You can check it on Wikipedia.

within the Jehovah’s Witnesses' leadership structure; it advocates for a broader re-evaluation of how religious groups handle internal dissent and uphold individual spiritual integrity. His central premise is that an organization's true measure of spiritual health is found not in uniformity enforced through hierarchical control, but in the capacity to accommodate sincere, scripturally-grounded differences of viewpoint without resorting to punitive measures.

Franz claimed that many Jehovah's Witnesses who choose to leave because they cannot "honestly agree with all the organization's teachings or policies" are subsequently disfellowshipped, or formally expelled, and shunned as "apostates". He wrote that he hoped his book might prompt Witnesses to consider the conscientious stand of defectors with a more open mind. He hoped that a discussion of deliberations and decisions of the Governing Body during his term would illustrate fundamental problems and serious issues within the organization: "They demonstrate the extremes to which 'loyalty to an organization' can lead, how it is that basically kind, well-intentioned persons can be led to make decisions and take actions that are both unkind and unjust, even cruel."

The book provides an abject view of Watch Tower Society leadership and its requirements of members, gives Franz's perspective on failed expectations among the Witness community that Armageddon would take place in 1975 and his views on fundamental Witness teachings on the significance of 1914 and continued expectations of Armageddon. It also gives his account of the events surrounding his expulsion from the religion.[7

I have always been saying something about the community truth of the Jehovah's Witnesses.

They keep changing doctrines like chameleon take pictures.

The blood you eat is different from the blood you transfuse. They are doing different things.

After the blood of Jesus had been shed no other blood matters.




Eccl.7.16
- Be not righteous over much; neither make thyself over wise: why shouldest thou destroy thyself?
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dinomcjohn:
This is what the LORD says:

Remember the things I have done in the past. For I alone am God! I am God, and there is none like me. Isaiah 46: 9 (NLT)

I am the Lord, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me: Isaiah 45: 5 KJV
I AM the LORD. I AM GOD alone.

To whom will you liken me and make me equal, and compare me, that we may be alike? Isaiah 46:5 I AM GOD alone. I AM GOD alone

Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else. Isaiah 45: 22 KJV

Why is this topic?

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Karlovich:
Once again, "I challenge Amoda Sangodele to prove he wasn't a know drug lord in the United States"- Ambassador to Mexico

It is economy that is important now not history of drug.

Since you have been whining, how has that affected your life and that of Nigerians?

Sand2022:
This is roughly 3 years I wrote this article on blood transfusion. JWs won't listen, they will keep sending against God to follow their Gov body.

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I have wearied so ma JW me
members of on this forum.
They are quick to criticize other denominations and defend their own uncertainties.

The real doctrine of God stand the test of time. These guys defend their Governing Body dogmas and Communty Truth than defending the Bible.

Dalohad:
But if he decides to contest elections and improve the country's medical and Healthcare fortunes, you will prefer a drug lord and certificate forger like Tinubu to him.

APC goons, do you see where the rain started beating you guys.

I am talking about church not politics. I am not a politician. Politicians have failed us. However, Tinubu is my take for now if I will ever vote. He is more informed than others in terms of finance.and governance.
His reforms may be harsh. He is still the best. I hope you saw his presentation in the USA Chamber of Commerce. Tinubu is the stock of Odùduwà, Oranmiyan, Awolowo, Soyinka, Adeboye, Funmilayo Ransome - Kuti,.
If you think I am tribalistic, I am.
Where were others when Awolowo built Liberty Stadium, WNTV/WNBS, Obafemi Awolowo University,Wemabod, Nigeria's High Commission? These were taken from Yorùbás by Nigerian government. Where are the contribution of others?
I believe in yoruba presidency

Dalohad:
But if he decides to contest elections and improve the country's medical and Healthcare fortunes, you will prefer a drug lord and certificate forger like Tinubu to him.

APC goons, do you see where the rain started beating you guys.

I am talking about church not politics. I am not a politician. Politicians have failed us. However, Tinubu is my take for now if I will ever vote. He is more informed than others in terms of finance.and governance.
His reforms may be harsh. He is still the best. I hope you saw his presentation in the USA Chamber of Commerce. Tinubu is the stock of Odùduwà, Oranmiyan, Awolowo, Soyinka, Adeboye, Funmilayo Ransome - Kuti,.
If you think I am tribalistic, I am.
Where were others when Awolowo built Liberty Stadium, WNTV/WNBS, Wemabod, Nigeria's High Commission? These were taken from Yorùbás by Nigerian government. Where are the continuation of others?

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Rehou:
Oga cry abeg

who is crying now?

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illicit:
An Igbo man will rule Nigeria

No need to talk like that...

His opinion remains his opinion

P.S I love Igbo girls

Na toto dey rule kontri?

Rehou:
Abeg do retire, messi is just better than you, no need for this "motigbational" speech

He is talking about personal goals now not competition with Messi.

Only 21 goals away from his goal.

This is great.
The church is marching on with his people.

QuinQQ:
If Iran stops harassing ships on Hormuz at this point that will amount to TOTAL DEFEAT.
Because it'd mean they couldn't even wait to help defeat Trump and the Republicans at midterms!

Ìran should be knocked down and knocked out once and for all. They are the sponsor of houthis that are marching on Mecca to reclaim ka'aba. If achieved, Islamic world will know no peace worldwide.

HacheNoire:
Israel has what capacity?

Tell the God of Israel-US to step aside and see if Iran won’t turn IS to dust?

What does Israel produce? Same Israel the IS just sent $2.8 billion worth of bombs too?

Nigeria will run over Israel if the US and all western nation steps aside. Stop hyping those beggars!

They are leaches on other nations!

Even the iron dome they were boasting about, if not for Trump that opened up, y’all still will be denying the US never built it for them.

Nuclear weapon tech was stolen from the USA.

What does the country have to wage a war on its own? Are they the Tesla, Microsoft, Toyota, Samsung, Honda or Nvidia?

That apartheid state called Israel is a parasite!

Albert Einstein that gave Delano Roosevelt the blueprint for atomic bomb was a Jew. How did Israel steal their own mental product?

Prodigal mother or what?