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honesttalk21:
Simply shunning wrong doers tends to encourage such practice. In a bid to shun you allow social disorder. Don't over reach social order in a bid to criticise religion.

The one comes back begging because the shunning system you use makes life uncomfortable and unbearably. It's plainly force. Like if you don't bow to our ways or idols no food or air to breathe. Your statement exposes your reliance on forceful cohesion no matter how unjust.

Suffocating the shunned, silent killing, emotional trauma, social distabilization, mental torture. These are the weapons fashioned against the apostates of jw.org. whereas, the scripture they are standing on is about interpersonal relationship not apostacy. Aside that, there are many people within their hood that have pointed errors in their teachings, rather than examining the teachings, they disfellowshipped them. These are angry people running down the organization in prints and social media.

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MaxInDHouse:
At least shunning and beheading those unrepentant wrongdoers is the same thing going by your own perspective.
That's a good take home.
Thanks for your contribution!🙂

Hahaha. I have no fear for shunning or beheading: JW.Org and Islam are opposite side of the same coin.

MaxInDHouse:
That's your own research to make Jesus said "it's by observing their FRUIT (followers) they can be recognized" {Matthew 7:16-18} Paul said we must be OBEDIENT to them that is if we are truly SHEEP {Hebrews 13:7; 17} after all everyone knows how submissive this domestic pet is!
So if you care go and make your own personal research because without them there is no salvation since they are Christ's brothers that we must assist in their divinely given task! Matthew 25:34-46🙂

No deal.

Let your representative be shinning me.

MaxInDHouse:
Of course there are GOATS among those following him that's why he said there'll be a time to SEPARATE the SHEEP from the GOATS! Matthew 25:34-46

So the GOATS are those who will never be submissive to Christ's representatives so they must be SHUNNED just as Jews do treat tax collectors!🙂

Who are these Christ's representatives?

MaxInDHouse:
Sheep are domestic animals that always follow orders and submissive to those taking the lead among them.
So when talking of a LOST SHEEP it's the domestic that got lost and seeking help to return back to the fold Jesus is talking about.

In this sense a JUDAIST, BOKO HARAM, HINDU, BUDDHIST, TRADITIONALIST may be a LOST SHEEP belonging to our God.

So how do we recognize a SHEEP?

Such ones are always submissive to the religion they belong and ever ready to do whatever those taking the lead asked them to do no matter how funny it is.

That shows they are willing to OBEY and not rebellious.

So you are wrong Sir Jesus talked about two categories of people the SHEEP and the GOATS. While the sheep are ever ready to obey instructions the goats are like Satan choosing whatever pleases them or standing alone away from their fellow worshipers.

Not all worshipers are SHEEP o that is why Jesus talked about SEPARATING them otherwise Jesus won't loose any worshiper you're not loving than Jesus o!😀

1Pet.2.25 - For ye were as sheep going astray; but are now returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls.
1Pet.5.4 - And when the chief Shepherd shall appear, ye shall receive a crown of glory that fadeth not away.

Is Jesus called goatherd here?

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MaxInDHouse:
What is the meaning of LOST SHEEP?🙂

Luke.15.4 - What man of you, having an hundred sheep, if he lose one of them, doth not leave the ninety and nine in the wilderness, and go after that which is lost, until he find it?
Luke.15.5 - And when he hath found it, he layeth it on his shoulders, rejoicing.
Luke.15.6 - And when he cometh home, he calleth together his friends and neighbours, saying unto them, Rejoice with me; for I have found my sheep which was lost.
Luke.15.7 - I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance.

Lost sheep is clearly explained here. A member in the fold swept away by whatever.

In my own church, we are.taught to pray for their restoration even if they have joined other religion. We still hope for their return and reach out in love.

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MaxInDHouse:
Choose one of two.

Christians will shun whoever becomes an apostate among them. Romans 16:17; 1Corinthans 5:5; 2John 10 -11

Muslims will behead whoever becomes an apostate among them.

Which would you choose?🙂

None. I will choose chasing one lost sheep till it is restored.

honesttalk21:
You've misrepresented Scripture, Christian history, and Islamic theology. Here's a more accurate understanding:

You've misread Matthew 18:15-17. The passage actually says, "If your brother sins against you..." and suggests treating him "as a Gentile and tax collector." This refers to resolving personal conflicts (sins against you), not addressing apostasy or doctrinal differences.

What does treating someone "as a Gentile and tax collector" really mean? Look at how Jesus interacted with them. He shared meals (Matthew 9:10-11), conversed (Matthew 15:22-28, John 4), chose one as an apostle (Matthew), and actively sought them out (Luke 19:1-10, Zacchaeus).

Following Jesus' example means maintaining relationships, continuing to share the Gospel, and seeking restoration, *not* total shunning. JW shunning, which forbids eating together, speaking (even to family), all social contact, and basic greetings, directly contradicts Jesus' approach.

You've also misapplied Romans 16:17 and 2 John 10-11. These passages address itinerant false teachers actively spreading heresy within early churches, *not* family members who leave the faith. Romans 16:17 urges us to "keep away" (Greek: *ekklínō*) from divisive teachers.

2 John 10-11 advises against hosting traveling false teachers who promote heresy. It doesn't command never speaking to former members, severing family ties, refusing meals, or imposing total social ostracism.

JWs apply this to individuals who quietly leave, those disfellowshipped for things like smoking, celebrating birthdays, or questioning doctrine, and family members with differing views. This is a distortion of the text.

Historically, your understanding of first-century Christian practice is flawed.

1 Corinthians 5:9-11 clarifies this by stating, "not at all meaning the people of this world... otherwise you would have to leave the world. But... you must not associate with anyone who claims to be a brother but is sexually immoral..." Paul distinguishes between unbelievers and former believers, suggesting normal daily contact is maintained with the former.

For professing Christians living in unrepentant sin, church fellowship (Lord's Supper, gatherings) is withheld. Church discipline affected *ecclesial* fellowship, not total social isolation.

2 Corinthians 2:5-8 speaks about the disciplined person, urging forgiveness, comfort, and reaffirmation of love. The goal is restoration, not permanent exile. How can you comfort someone you're forbidden to speak to?

Your claim that Muhammad (peace be upon him) taught beheading is a gross distortion and a false comparison. Islamic apostasy laws historically addressed treason, not simply a change in belief. Leaving Islam in the early Islamic state often meant joining enemy tribes actively at war with the Muslims.

Treason within a religious-political state is distinct from a simple change of belief. The Qur'an (2:256) clearly states, "There is no compulsion in religion."

In classical Islamic jurisprudence, many scholars ruled that private disbelief carries no earthly punishment. Public apostasy coupled with active warfare, however, was treated as rebellion/treason.

In today's world, most Muslim-majority countries do not execute apostates (Turkey, Indonesia, Malaysia). Where harsh laws exist (Saudi Arabia, Iran, Afghanistan), these represent extremist interpretations, not standard universal Islamic practice. There's a growing scholarly consensus that such punishments were contextual (early state self-defense) and not universal commands.

Historically, Christianity executed apostates for over 1,000 years. After 380 CE, heresy became a capital crime. During the Inquisition (1200s-1800s), thousands were tortured and executed.

Calvin burned Servetus for denying the Trinity in 1553. Anabaptists were drowned and burned by both Catholics and Protestants.

During the witch trials, tens of thousands were killed. Biblical texts like Deuteronomy 13:6-10 ("kill him" and Deuteronomy 17:2-5 ("stoned to death" were used to justify these actions. You're condemning Muslims for something Christians themselves did on a massive scale.

JW shunning also leads to deaths. While you claim shunning is better than execution, JW shunning has been linked to suicides, with documented cases following total family rejection. Furthermore, the blood transfusion policy, even with some modifications, has caused and continues to cause unnecessary deaths.

Research demonstrates the psychological trauma resulting from depression, PTSD, and anxiety. Social ostracism activates the same brain regions as physical pain. Family rejection is a major suicide risk factor. Total isolation is psychologically devastating.

JW shunning means parents are forbidden from speaking to adult children (even those dying of cancer), siblings are permanently cut off (unable to acknowledge each other at funerals), grandparents are denied access to grandchildren, and individuals experience total loss of family, friends, job, housing, and identity. It's emotional blackmail, expressed as "leave and lose everyone you love." This isn't loving discipline; it's psychological torture.

You ask, "Which is better?" Neither execution nor psychological torture aligns with Jesus' teachings. Jesus' actual pattern was to eat with tax collectors and sinners (Matthew 9:10-13), maintain relationships to encourage repentance (John 8:1-11, Luke 19:1-10), pursue the lost, and welcome outcasts. JWs, however, immediately cut all contact, refuse basic greetings, and destroy families, claiming this is Christian love.

The honest comparison reveals that Islam, in certain interpretations and supported by some classical rulings (which are contextual and increasingly rejected), prescribed death for apostasy as treason. Growing reform emphasizes Qur'an 2:256 ("no compulsion".

Christianity, on the other hand, actually executed thousands for centuries, using Old Testament law to justify their actions.

JWs practice a universal, mandatory shunning policy that causes documented suicides, family destruction, and psychological harm, enforced globally.

Both execution and total shunning are wrong. You're defending cruelty while condemning others for engaging in similar behavior.

Your false premises are exposed by:

1. Matthew 18:15-17 being about personal conflicts, not apostasy; Jesus engaged Gentiles and tax collectors, not shunned them.

2. Romans 16:17 and 2 John 10-11 being about traveling false teachers, not family members.

3. First-century practice showing that Church discipline was restorative and maintained daily contact with former believers.

4.Your. Christian history reveals a long period - over a thousand years - where those deemed apostates faced execution. It seems inconsistent to condemn similar actions by Muslims when Christians engaged in comparable behavior.

Furthermore, the practice of shunning by Jehovah's Witnesses has been documented to cause significant harm, including psychological distress, and in some cases, even death. This raises questions about whether such practices are morally superior.

In essence, your interpretation of scripture appears flawed, your understanding of history distorted, and your defense of cruelty troubling. This deviates from genuine Christianity and instead resembles a cult, manipulating Bible verses to rationalize the destruction of families.

Well said Sir. The more Christianity is understood, the better the society becomes. Many interpreters of Jewish scriptures have presented God as a wicked God. I always wondered, why would Jesus condemn some laws attributed to Moses? It was always referred to as the,' Law of Moses ', not Law of God. The only original laws God gave directly was etched in stone tablets. No curses , no killings, just a set of moral rules , believed to have been written by God Himself.
Mohammed came, advanced the brutality in the Laws of Moses. Took it to horrific extreme. He claimed that Allah sent prophets to all tribes. People rejected their messages. It was now his own assignment to kill everyone on behalf of Allah. Allah will still judge the victims of execution of Mohammed and Mohammedan religious philosophy in hell.

The funny thing is that all these antihuman laws are always coming from people with sense of unique, better, only 'worshippers' of whatever they believe in.

Now United Nations is advocating for peace and peaceful coexistent among humanity. They campaign for peace, human rights, racial discrimination in any where possible, their voices are loud. Most proponents of these do not believe in anything.
The religious bigots are more ready to shed blood, supported slavery, victimize people of other religious leanings, discriminate, witch-hunt, persecute, people that don't see things with their spectacles.

Now it seems the organizations that always arbitrate in religious beheadings, stonings, shinning, emotional arsenal fashioned against human beings are more righteous than the gods these people represent and tout to ' infidels'

You gave a good piece brother.
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No deal.

LagosOrigin:
Great allies

Trump, Netayanhu and Putin.

World bests

Trunetput.

Trouble net put in trumpet.

The complainers should pay the money to FG. ₦5,000 is too small, ₦ 6,000 is too small. Are you all working for government? Taxes are deducted from salaries that mostly not determined by government but employers.

Prov.24.16 - For a just man falleth seven times, and riseth up again: but the wicked shall fall into mischief.



Did he rise up again?
No problem.
Tinubu till 2032

I can only hear olodo,.......



Abi?

The placard itself is poor. Kidnappers go get money in this state?

Sho!!!

Lessons from the Tonto Dikeh–Churchill Reunion: From Public Hostility to Personal Healing

The recent public reunion between Nollywood actress Tonto Dikeh and her former husband Olakunle Churchill Oladunni is significant not because it resurrects a failed marriage, but because it closes a chapter that once symbolised the worst excesses of public conflict in the digital age. Their separation was not merely private; it unfolded loudly on social media, degenerated into insults, and was ultimately weaponised along tribal lines. That this story has found a measure of resolution is, therefore, instructive.

Few celebrity separations in recent Nigerian history were as acrimonious and as public. Social media became the primary battleground. Accusations were traded, reputations questioned, and personal grievances aired before a global audience. What should have remained a domestic matter turned into a daily spectacle, amplified by blogs, commentaries, and partisan supporters.
Perhaps most troubling was how the conflict escaped the boundaries of personal disagreement and assumed ethnic coloration. Supporters on both sides framed the dispute as a tribal contest, importing regional loyalties into a marital breakdown. In doing so, a private failure was transformed into a proxy battle for ethnic pride, deepening divisions that had no bearing on the original dispute.

Central to this turning point is Tonto Dikeh’s openly professed renewed faith journey. Faith, when genuinely embraced, compels introspection. It demands restraint, repentance, and a willingness to reverse course. Her decision to recalibrate her public posture—pulling back from hostility and embracing peace—suggests the influence of a belief system that prioritises humility over vindication.

Equally instructive is Churchill’s response. Forgiveness in this context was not passive. To absorb public criticism, withstand sustained attacks on character, and still choose civility requires emotional discipline. Ego, especially when publicly bruised, demands retaliation. Resisting that impulse is strength, not weakness.

Beyond personal reconciliation, this reunion underscores a commitment to co-parenting. In choosing peace, both parties place the emotional stability of their child above the gratification of public validation. This recalibration is perhaps the most consequential outcome of all.

The media eagerly chronicled the conflict, but moments of reconciliation often receive less attention. Yet it is resolution—not rupture—that societies should amplify. Public figures, by their actions, model possibilities for millions navigating similar conflicts without cameras or headlines.

Equally deserving of commendation are the individuals and intermediaries who quietly brokered the peace that once seemed unattainable. That reconciliation succeeded where appeals from past presidents and respected figures reportedly failed underscores a critical truth: peace is not enforced by stature, but facilitated by trust, patience, and sincerity. Those who laboured behind the scenes—without fanfare or publicity—demonstrated that mediation driven by genuine concern can succeed where authority and influence could not.

This reunion also speaks powerfully to countless families navigating similar storms away from public view. To those convinced that reconciliation is impossible, or whose egos have become immovable barriers, this moment offers a sober appeal. Pride may preserve appearances, but it mortgages the future.

Choosing humility over vindication can reunite families, protect children from emotional trauma, and secure an inheritance of peace rather than pain. When reconciliation is delayed, wounds deepen; when it is embraced, futures are preserved.

Lessons Drawn from the Narrative
1. Conflicts deteriorate when transferred from private dialogue to social media spectacle.

2. Public insults gratify the moment but impoverish the future.

3. Ethnicising personal disputes is reckless and socially destructive.

4. Genuine faith manifests in changed conduct, not merely revised language.

5. Forgiveness is an act of strength, particularly when ego and image are bruised.

6. Restraint preserves dignity more effectively than retaliation.


7. Marriage may end, but parental responsibility does not.

8. Children are silent victims of prolonged adult conflict and must be protected.

9. Effective peace brokers succeed through discretion, patience, and trust, often where power fails.

10. Reconciliation is a strategic investment in the future, while pride merely defends the past.

Conclusion
The Tonto Dikeh–Churchill reunion is not a romantic restoration; it is a moral recalibration. It illustrates that excess can yield to reflection, faith can temper fury, and forgiveness can outlast humiliation.
From public insults to ethnic polarisation, from wounded egos to deliberate restraint, this episode offers Nigeria a timely reminder: even the most visible conflicts need not end in permanent hostility. Where humility replaces pride and peace is chosen over applause, families are preserved and futures protected.
That lesson transcends celebrity. It is civic, cultural, and urgently relevant.

The quality of roads this Tinubu is building is second to none. This will last many more years than the ones constricted before. Only a visionary, futuristic leader can do that.

It is more expensive though,but durable.

nlfpmod:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f5xpn0uc-4

Tonto Dikeh tearfully shares testiimony in Church of how she reconciled with her ex-husband, Olakunle Churchill, and allowed him into their son’s life.

Olakunke Churchill Reacts:



https://www.instagram.com/p/DT7WCuRDJmc/?igsh=MTRiaGszN3F1ZjMxcw==


Recall that Tonto Dikeh called Churchill A One-Minute Man during their bitter divorce in 2019. Thank God that they've settled.

I think Churchill is married, would he send the other innocent woman that has been giving him peace of mind away?

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Eniitankorede:
Ignorant person. When you Algebra and Algorithm. Go and ask who they are and what religion they are. The father of medicine Ave Cena was a Muslim. GPS that you use for satelite communication was designed by a muslim woman. Many more. Ignorant ones like you will forever by ignorant, we don’t care.

Be deceiving yourself. The glory of Persia was wanning when Islam got there and finished the remaining glory. When Islam gained full ground, darkness fell on the Islamic world and destroyed knowledge and research. There is no known person that amounts to anything in useful fields of science, technology, medicine, economics in last 300years in any Islam dominated world. If there is anyone, he or she must be living in the West and have western influence.

Since the Hamid Al - Ghezali, Islamic world has embraced darkness. The relevance Islamic world has today is jihad. Without global terrorism, Islam has no relevance and inspiration.

Eniitankorede:
Complete rubbish. Islam is far better than Christianity because we control both the mind and what we see. As a muslim you are expected to lower your gaize when you see a woman who is naked. You are also expected not to remain in seclusion with a woman. Fasting has both voluntary and obligatory ones. The obligatory ones you are allowed to proclaim the fast. The voluntary one you are not expected to announce to anybody except yourself.

Your statements show how ignorant you are about Islam. It is the most beautiful religion that legislates and controls your physical interaction, heart and mind. Furthermore, there are countless prayers to prevent you for those fitna (temptations) which is spiritual dimension to it. Tell me if your bible has such comprehensive methods to avoid evil.

See mouth.

What has Islam brought to benefit humanity? No Islamic nation is known for any developmental things. No invention, no Nobel Prize, no technology, no sense, except going about mourning.



72 Virginas await you in Al - jannah. You are going to be tempted by rounded, ever - protruding, never sagging boobs. You are not permitted to see them here. I like to see you in Al - Jannah, beside the river of rum, dancing tarantella with naked houris before Allah eternally.


The final miracle of burantashi.

Slaves of Allah killing children of Yahweh.

This clearly shows that the Allah of Mecca is not the Yahweh of Israel.


How can slaves of a master be killing the children of the same master on the master's command?

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bigpicture001:
Because of the high cost of energy, I barred her from overly use of electric hot plate, also gas finishes so fast.. all these are draining the family maintainance resources..

So I deviced a means to bring down the cost of energy by purchasing gokpo charcoal stove.. it's a new kinda charcoal stove that doesn't fume, it's clean energy and also burns faster..

Just that u need to infuse charcoal enough and cook straight hours so u can exchaust the charcoal, lest it won't stop burning inside..

Believe me, it doesn't darken pot nor fume..

By she has refused to use it, claiming I am taking her to olden days and causing lots of stress..

Okay I suggested she start to part pay the cost of cooking energy if sh must stick with her choice.. but sh has not filled gas since then nor part pay the huge NEPA bill that comes monthly..

Abeg wetin I go do for this case

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They must take you to the city square, have you given twelve strokes of bílálà by a hefty, angry soldier that escaped from sambisa forest for taking a fine girl' from her father's house in 21st century and taking her back to old stone age.


Anyway, appeal to her and make her see reason to adapt for now. So many things are ravaging her mind.

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bolaayenimo:
I pray we all become Muslims. Its a religion of love and peace

Allah forbid.
Insha Allah, I will not become a killer, a hater of humanity.

Insha Allah, I will not be an instrument of death for a god that cannot kill any infidels but will promise me 72 totos as a reward for kpaing innocent souls for yim.

I already had more than 72 girls here, why striving for less?

Insha Allah, I will not hate my father, mother, siblings because of an Arabian deity.

I forbid getting mad at humanity that has done wrong to hurt me because of Allah and his prophet salla Allahu allehi Wahala.

Where can I watch the match.

LagosOrigin:
Maybe it's Nigeriannrice that's filled with stone.

Foreign Rice should be returned to the N32,000 that tinubu and buhari met it.

We still need a home grown our economy rather than relying on Chinese rice, turkey, chicken, toothpicks, tomatoes etc.

Rice and stones don't grow together. , it is just a matter of processing. It is only because of African mentality values placed on excellence. We have Standard Organization of Nigeria to regulate that..

Tinubu in the best president for Nigeria. Apart from him was Abacha, the only president that came out with vision 2000 or 2020 then. Every other president lived for the now. Apart from security issue which is not his making and a design of northern elites to impose Islam on the rest of us.
Tinubu is the best. The political reforms is quietly making, the decentralization of the military must not be aborted, returning Nigeria to regional government must succeed.

In fact, if I were Tinubu, I would ban so many other things. If I were Seun, I would ban you for two years for making unpatriotic statements on nairaland.

Wealthyonos:
Sometimes when I see the kind of topics that comes to minds, I just wonder if you can't come up with solutions to the problems that faces society everyday instead of all these useless relationship talks.

This is a big societal problem on it's own. The is one problem of ex's that always a challenge in marriage.
Besides, virginity carries with it some spiritual dimensions.