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kirkwood:
But seriously, how could Ambode be treated like that?

That mockery was something else.

It would definitely ruin future APC governors in Lagos if this should continue

Like you're in power but you're not in power

which power
power he did not work for
power that was bestowed upon him
chop alone die alone power

youngest85:
See ring neck That's how you will be used for rituals

abeg which wan be ring neck again

Runalong333:
Its you and mes fault.

yep

You said we had younger leaders back then , I'm saying they have younger leaders now. Who is better positioned to take the country foward between an aged man and a younger one ?

a, forward thinking one
no be by age

So younger leaders cause civil wars?.

they were all young and inexperienced

Let's just accept being lead by fossils right?

that's not what I Said

Atleast there won't be any civil war in Nigeria

don't be so sure

Hidentity:
I thought as much. You read the headlines and dashed off dangling half, unbaked and unrefined knowledge in my face. I read the content. Now, you can get out.

come, and get me out
no let foolishness kee you dia

life2017:
He doesnt hsve to share

then her not ready to win

Hidentity:
Go to paragraph 2, line 2. When you do that, your folly must have been revealed to you that house of reps was actually mentioned.

read the heading of the thread slowly
confirm if Ibadan south east 2 sounds like a federal constituency
look at the candidates political weight
then realise whose fingers are faster than their brain

I will ignore all the nonsense you typed all in the name of response. You have fingers that are 5 times faster than the functioning of your brain. I respond to people with civility, but I don't spare e-lunatics.

you wouldn't know civility if it mangled you

Runalong333:
How many politically parties lead by young people are a force to be reckoned with in naija .

whose fault that they don't have leadership qualities

I said look at their parliament and ours today . They had more older politicians in the 90s but saw that was stupid, younger ones should take over to move things quickly , and you are saying something embarrassing;

I don't understand you

we had younger people back then and now we are electing fossils to rule us , isn't that stupidity?

what did we end up with the younger ppl. civil war

Hidentity:
House of rep?

assembly
read slowly

God, what have we done to deserve this incurably ridiculous system?

what have you done to deserve any better

So, the legislative arm is not just for governors who exhausted their two terms again, but also for entertainer with no clear cut manifesto

looting and sharing is a manifesto
do you have a better one

, sound understanding of the polity

appeal to sentiment
it is you that doesn't understand

and impressive antecedent in management of people?

she's an actor who shared stuff to her voters
what's more impressive than that

We will all be all right soon.

no you won't

baliyubla:
Even forgot this ancestor was still the minister of Agriculture. How did your phoney exportation of yam end? Now its time to give excuses on governments failure to adequately feed Nigerians. The fact that some still root for this government to continue for whatever reason beats my imagination.

not govt job to feed you

IMO don suffer from frying pan to mortar

life2017:
I didnt say Agbaje will win

yes you did, if he follows your advice which I am saying, bollocks!!!

Runalong333:
Bro , I agree with you. I have noticed that countries that fought hard with colonialists tend to easily unite than the ones who never lost anything . What gets to me the most is the fact that we have so many schooled youth who still can't see beyond tribe and religion .

schooled in what I may ask
a schooled doctor can never replace a plumber

In my stay in south africa, I have realised the black man is not cursed but refuses to think and act . I'm amazed of how politically involved the youth here are , including secondary school children

youth are politically involved in Nigeria
dunno what you're saying

. Look at how vibrant and youthful their parliament is .

look at how youthful our parliament and soldiers were
do not compare, countries different independence ages

Both countries have serious structural problems to resolve dating back to colonial times but one is working hard destroying the legacy and the other working hard to keep it. Lord save us.

Runalong333:
I'm not talking in terms of infrastructure, we all know the two countries have different histories. Nigeria was exploited by colonizers without them investing much in her , South Africa was exploited by colonizers but they invested heavily in her .

no malaria to poshu dem

I'm talking about ;
A) Politicians - in south africa anyone can wake up one day and start their own party

same in Nigeria

and they will gain a following from people from all walks of life ; rich ,poor ,different races and tribes, as long as their politics makes sense.

same

The age of the politician is also not judged, I look at the guys who lead the opposition parties , both in their early thirties and with a huge youth following which gives the ANC sleepless nights .

correlation not causation

- Now Nigeria, we have so many willing young people

no we don'
they wish
not willing

who are ready to steer the country in the right direction but the tribal, religious , and class bigotry in us won't let us be. Why can't we look past these elements that are making Nigeria suffer and come together as the youth to elect a leader who has our common national interest at heart , whether he is an Afonja, Aboki or Igbo?.

cos none do

Nigeria has so much talent across all tribes but instead of us collaborating those talents, we use them for silly comparisons and competion. This ofcourse is detrimental to national unity and progress .

talent in what exactly
talent in obeying orders is different from leadership talent

B) Accountability of leaders and public servants- there is corruption in both countries but the levels and punishments differ. In South Africa if a leader is found wanting , there is no mercy for him or her not even from people from the same tribe or race . A good example is Jacob Zuma, all South Africans stood up against him and forced him to resign , the Zulus didn't threaten other groups in order to protect him,they too looked at the bigger picture . There were people fighting for him to remain , but what I noticed is that they were not for him because of tribe or religion or race, they were just loyalists . In South Africa if a public institution is not delivering well , the whole place will be shut down by citizens with a call for the public servants to be sacked or for a restructure of the leadership , no sentiments on which tribe or race the current leaders are . Corrupt public servants are often sacked , sent to court and jailed and the media is not selective in reporting them .

culture handed down
unlike biafra that created tribal and religious mistrust

In Nigeria how many politicians have we punished for their corrupt activities ? .

who wan die?

How many of us report or protest against public servants who demand settlements before doing their jobs ?.

who protest epp
how many of us have the time or resources to protest

Our officers openly ask for bribes in public and no one blinks an eye .

alternatives?

Our public services are dead because citizens are dead. The best solution is to come together and fight the devils , no matter which tribe or religion , it is then that things will start happening the right way in naija . This all lies in our shoulders . We cannot say we want a sane country yet we are not willing to act sane. Things work in countries like South Africa because they demand for them to work and they are willing to put themselves out there for the betterment of their country.

we're behind you
start am

C). Judiciary system - courts in south africa are made independent from politics and business . You can sue a top politian or business and win even as a poor man , no need to be connected to the top , just get a public defender or private lawyer and present your case , if it's credible you stand a better chance of justice . Former president Zuma is currently in court for his crimes, no amount of political influence can change the court' s mind.

cos there will be consequences for the judges
unlike Nigeria where tribe and religion will skata every

In Nigeria, if you are not rich and connected, don't even try going after politicians and rich people . You will only get yourself in trouble. Justice is for the rich and famous . Can Jonathan or Buhari stand before a judge for anything . Never ! The parts of the South would be up in arms and protect Jonathan, and the northerners would shut the country down for Buhari. Again , it's not the leaders who have ruined Nigeria, it is you and me and our bigotry, cowardice and hypocrisy.

o so you know

D). Religion , in South Africa there is not many Muslims but their rights are not infringed because they are a minority . They are left alone to be who they are without fear or intimidation from the majority. Muslims and other minorities like Hindus are well represented in parliament and other public offices . South Africa is not a religious country , and there is no " God punish you " talk to blackmail others Into complying with anything. Yes , they have their deluded snake eating church goers , but the greater majority don't care about religion, they prefer their own cultural practices which makes them united without foreign religions separating them.

In Nigeria, can a Muslim run for office and win in south east? . Can a Christian run for office and win in the greater North ?.

yes

Can someone openly practice their cultural rites without him being called primitive , evil or backward ? .,

yes

Can someone say they don't care about Christianity or Islam without people threatening him with hell or God's or Allah's wrath ?.

yes

Religion is one of the things weighing us down, and making foreign invaders divide us and yes they have conquered us through it. Boko haram is a good example. I'm not saying we should not respect our respective religion , but just be careful not to let them block us from reasoning.

that's why it's called religio
mind control
I suggest you let it be and use it instead of fighting religion

E). Education - South Africa spends over 20% of its GDP in education . As a result they don't have any need for private universities. Their public universities are world class and well maintained. They attract students world wide. If you went to the university of cape town for instance 5 years ago , you will still find the infrasture there the same and you would find new built facilities or wings to accommodate more students and researchers , this is due to good governance and culture of maintenance. South Africa has student loans and grants for the poor , I'm not talking for a few but many . A student from a poor background can access quality education and repay the loan over his lifetime after finding employment . The government has a grant system that pays for the poor student's fees , accommodation, transportation, books and feeding . South African rich and powerful people don't send their children overseas for schooling , unless it's for ivy leagues , they invest in their own institutions.

In Nigeria, how many banks are willing to loan poor students?.

would you bank with a bank that loaned Nigerian students your money that you will never get back

How many grants does our government offer the poor students?.

how many grants does the govt have to give

Our government spends about 7% of our GDP on such a huge population and expects to have quality graduates . Our certificates are almost worthless outside of Nigeria.

that should tell you something

Our public universities look like farms not to talk about our harzodous student residences . We have been made to accept rubbish as a norm .

F) Health care system- South African government spends a big part of the GDP on healthcare. The public hospitals are open 24/7with running water and electricity. The hospitals and clinics are of good quality . South African leaders don't do medical tourism , they invest in their own system . If one person dies due to negligence in the hospital , the whole media and country'attention will be in that hospital. South African public hospitals are even better than our private ones

In Nigeria , how much do we spend on our public healthcare? . Why have we accepted medical tourism as a norm . Celebrities giving birth in USA and UK is openly celebrated by the fans . This embarrassment is now an achievement for many , something we now all wish for .

G) . Flaunting wealth - in south africa a childish man like Dino would not be a part of governing the country , he would have been slammed and sacked a long-time ago . I have never seen any South African politician in the media for flaunting his new cars or house , but in naija, it's a norm. Do you know in south Africa there is a special unit called hawks , if you are suspected of illegal money, they will be on your ass . If you flaunt money on social media, within a few hours they are in your front door to investigate the source. But in Nigeria, that would be seen as witchhunting . We have scammers openly flaunting illegal gains and we applaud and celebrate them for being " smart and hardworking ".

now you see the problem
we are the problem not the 'leaders '

Our authorities won't do anything about it as long as you settle them , and we expect not to have young boys quitting education for crime .

why not
survival is instinct

H) . Dignity to Labour , minimum wage , standards of living- South African people doing menial jobs earn 3500 ZAR ,thats sbout 85,962.07 NGN. On top of this , they get free quality healthcare, free government houses or subsides ones . Their houses have 24hrs of power. All of their homes have running water and fitted toilets . Their roads are maintained. Transportation is safe ; from trains to road worthy taxis . They have access to credit or loans in case of emergencies. When they retire , on top of their retirement funds , they can apply for a monthly old age grant . How much is our proposed minimum wage ?. What benefits do our security guards and cleaners get . And the bloody Fg is telling us to come back home , to what ? To do what ? Be treated like slaves by the rich ?. A rich man in south Africa qeues like those earning minimun wage to be served, no skipping the line or intimidating the poor while others look on in admiration .

a rich man nko
tell the truth

When will we get here .

when we get there

If a well to do person intimidates or does something to a poor person , the whole country will know about it and justice will be served, but in naija we blame the victim or turn a blind eye .

The point of this write up is to encourage unity, accountability .

talk is cheap
you sef comot chook head

We can't force leaders to perform if we are constantly fighting each other . They all sit together laughing at Our stupidity while pretending to be enemies in public. We need to change our collective mindset . We have a lot of smart and innovative youth scattered around the world, but when will we ever get our own home in order ?. South Africans are not desperate to leave their home even with all their problems inherited from apartheid , they continue to improve.

cos they know there's nowhere to go to

South Africa has many of her challenges but they are gradually getting the basics in order, we should start our own journey too. We may not like each other, but let's put our differences apart and build our own home.

Peace.

Ihaveleftnaija, izombie , ugosample , crownwealth, Juliusmalema,AroleOduduwa, evilforest . Which way ?

t do anything about it as long as you settle them , and we expect not to have young boys quitting education for crime .

H) . Dignity to Labour , minimum wage , standards of living- South African people doing menial jobs earn 3500 ZAR ,thats sbout 85,962.07 NGN. On top of this , they get free quality healthcare, free government houses or subsides ones . Their houses have 24hrs of power. All of their homes have running water and fitted toilets . Their roads are maintained. Transportation is safe ; from trains to road worthy taxis . They have access to credit or loans in case of emergencies. When they retire , on top of their retirement funds , they can apply for a monthly old age grant . How much is our proposed minimum wage ?. What benefits do our security guards and cleaners get . And the bloody Fg is telling us to come back home , to what ? To do what ? Be treated like slaves by the rich ?. A rich man in south Africa qeues like those earning minimun wage to be served, no skipping the line or intimidating the poor while others look on in admiration . When will we get here . If a well to do person intimidates or does something to a poor person , the whole country will know about it and justice will be served, but in naija we blame the victim or turn a blind eye .

The point of this write up is to encourage unity, accountability . We can

joker

kingkakaone:
His being silent since after the last electios may likely haunt him.
Most people might think he is not serious.

anyone not ready to share money is not serious

foolish woman no wan spend moni

HeWrites:
As shared by Owerri big boy and manager of Cubana Club, Chibuike Okechukwu Paschal aka Cubana Chief Priest.

See below;

https://www.torimill.co/viral/10229/so-funny-how-girls-do-bleaching-chest-and-butt-enlargement-for-pot-belly-guys-man.html

for money not potbelly

life2017:
I will give the chance of Jimi Agbaje (PDP) winning Sanwo-olu (APC) only 35% chance.

My reasons are:

1. In my following of the events so far on multiple forum and blogs, a strong majority of those angry over Ambode loss are the same people(Jonathanians and PDP supporters) who were against Ambode in 2015. I am yet to see a reasonable number of those who voted Ambode/ APC in 2015 who are very angry over Ambode loss to the extend of saying they wont vote Sanwo-Olu because of that.

2. Even though Sanwo-Olu won Ambode because of Tinubu effect, Sanwo-Olu tend to have support among the grassroot and passionate APC members. This may translate to higher passion among the grassroots (Thugs) to help him win. In Nigeria when u hear a politician is a grassroot politician it simply means it has the thugs. Like we hear alot in PortHarcout. "Wike is a grassroot politicians."

3. Sanwo-Olu tend to have better academic qualifications than Agbaje. Agbaje records i have seen shows he is a graduate pharmacist. But Sanwo- Olu records shows multiple Masters degree. This may appeal to some intellectuals despite Sanwo-Olu being Tinubu's boy.

4a. Unlike a candidate from incumbent party who normally finds it hard during election debate because his role is to defend his predecessor, in Sanwo-Olu case he has advantage. He will defend the good achievement of Ambode and when it comes to weak part of Ambode govt, he will easily say that is why his party nominated him to make the changes were Ambode is failing. That is a big advantage on his side.

4b. Oratory skills for debate and campaign. I have listened to both Agbaje and Sanwo-Olu. Unlike in 2015 when Agbaje was clearly better in oratory and articulation than Ambode, in the case of Sanwo-Olu the difference will not be so clear. Both of them have good oratory skills in thier own unique way. While Agbaje sound more british with goof command of english, Sanwo-Olu sound more Nigerian with good diction. It is like the difference between Oby Ezekwesili (Sanwo-Olu) and Kemi Adeosun (Agbaje). In this case is not even that distinct.

5. Igbo/ yoruba dichotomy in Lagos politics. The igbos in Lagos are very likely to become vocal supporters of Agbaje. That is likely to irritate some yorubas who believe Lagos politics should be decided by yorubas.

6. Igbos in Lagos are less likely to be passionate about voting in 2019 than in 2015 because of strong Jonathan effect in 2015 which gave Agbaje some votes.

7. Money politics will favour Sanwo-Olu. Unlike in 2015 when Agbaja got some federal govt money, in 2019, Agbaje is very likely to suffer from lack of funds. PDP are more likely to spend money in Imo election where they have more hope than in Lagos. As free money is limited in PDP right now as they lack access to federal tresury.

8. INEC effect. PDP has some control of INEC in 2015. Now in 2019 most of INEC control is in the hands of APC.

9. Police and other security will tilt towards Sanwo-Olu unlike in 2015 when it tilt towards Agbaje.

In summary, the strongest point for agbaje is those people with strong anger for Tinubu political power and clout. From my interactions so far, only few Yorubas see that as enough reason to vote Agbaje.

all dis grammar
agbaje Will lose cos he refuse to spend money like tinubu

blackgold90:
When will Lagos choose their own governor.... I mean the one Tinubu have no hand.

when they're ready to spend money

Mobsync:
Is Murray Bruce now licking ass? Is he now saying Dangote is honorable?

Dangote and honorable are two words that should not appear in the same sentence.

Sorry man, Dangote has no form of honor in him. He is one of the crony capitalists holding this nation at ransom.

Crony capiotalism (using padi padi to get concessions and lucrative government contracts) is one of the banes of middle income countries like Nigeria.

Crony capitalism leads to unfair business advantages, destroying competition and causing monopoly, which Dangote enjoys today.

And unless the nation involved destroys that crony capitalism, it will never rise past the middle income ceiling. It will never become a high earning nation like the US and every other first world nation in the world today.

Screw you Murray Bruce. Dangote is not honorable and he is not powerful than Buhari either.

Dangote got his money and power from the government and that same government can crush him.

who hold the other cronies from capitalising

abeg hate the game not the player

gssdobi:
.power is money,but money is not power.There are things power can do money can't.
.

such as?

CROWNWEALTH019:
Coward from Ondo


Decamp and see everybody follow you


If Yoruba's cannot liberate themselves, we would help them. All we need is for them to believe they can be saved

have you helped yourselves

seunmsg:
The incoming governor, I advice you be magnanimous in victory. Also, reach out to Ambode and extend your hand of fellowship to him. You both belong to the same political family and yesterday's primary election was a family contest. We need the two of you to work together and take Lagos state to the next level.

why
ambode is a fool
a coward
a nonentity

jfking2005:
So no one has an idea except the one given from bordilon?

You will be liberated one day

you get idea why you gree make bourdillion sponsor you.

skarlett:
It looks too small to be honest and since the guy earns a six figure salary, she probably expected more. She's right to expect more but it looks as if she's accepted it, so who am I to complain?

why is she right to expect more. dem sign contract ne?

Famocious:
You can keep that in your pocket sir... Thanks

continue glorifying failure

Nevee:
I’m referring to his achievements in his career as a finance person.

same thing
what did he achiev
he sat down
said yes sir
was promoted
but no legacy
Soludo re capitalised banks
sanusi sacked fraudsters
akunyili made nafdac household name
ezekwesili madam due process, exposed solid minerals, exposed waste in education sector

what did peculiar mess achieve

this is how bad leaders are elected by ignorant masses

Nevee:
Sound guy with an enviable profile.

what has he achieved besides stealing

gideon1971:
Penkelemesi is he a Chinese, pls can someone first throw more light on the meaning of the name

his father nickname couldn't pronounce
peculiar mess

Famocious:
The word 'crash' sounds somehow..
As far as I'm concerned, they bow out against the world champions in style.

71 40 is not bowing out, it's being trashed unapologetically

[quote author=R2bees post=71608277][/quote]a winner

BruncleZuma:
It's racist

The above will stand as long as those quoting me do not know the origins of this depiction of blacks.

it will stand as long as we need their visas more than they need ours