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truthislight: yeah! That ^.

All i do as a christian has been sactified by the blood, the authority i have is over all sins.

Even if i commit funication, nothing will happen, the funication has been sactified by the powerful in the blood of him.

Even if i steal money and another persons wife, she will be clean in his name and his blood.

I cannot commite a sin as a christ. His grace covers all.......

All i do have been clean by the blood of that one that has all power.

If you dont know the power in the blood, it is only then you can denied what i have seen and said in the spirit.











yes, in the blood of that one, do you doubt it ?

You got it all wrong brother,you got it all wrong.

I have been attending mfm headquarters at onike Lagos and seriously i have been enjoying the G.O' s teaching,esp that of yeaterday...the spirit of sodomy.

Muslims sha,they will nevercease to amaze someone,they are so engrossed with christainity,they cnt do without christainity,like the existence of islam depends on christainity...lol.
@Op,a true christain knows how to worship God,so stop the misquoting and fallacy abeg.

Howdy everybody? How was the day?

lynpetra: My God no dey do mistakes .
HE isnt calling.

Lol,are you saying he CANNOT call you?

dyfatai: On this thread, some pple have said that born again CANNOT sin, but they av in one way or the other commited sin.

One has said, they can sin but needed 2 seek for forgiveness ceaselessly(seems dis youngman is a catholic)

Others av competely sidestepped d question, reason being that they call themselves born again but they couldnt resist d occasional bottles of Alch, bleepin of girls, d clubs, cheating, backbiting etc................... This group, to me, are being realistic

The final group are working relentlessly to defend wot dey believe in. Agreeing d@ born again can sin will be a slap on christianity and make dem unlike 'christ'. .......................These are potential theologians.

Even Anaochuku1 started with long epistle abot infallability, but Alhamdulillah, @ some point, he agreed d@ he got blood running thru his veins .

All in all, i expected a consensus of answer from u gentlemen because d idea of salvation is d most fundamental teaching in ur religion. If by now, u are still aving a difference of opinion, dont u think dere is something wrong somewhere??

Pls, ponder on dis points and reply with wisdom.

Thanks.

You are only trying,try harder.
There is nothing to ponder on to me,Jesus said you shall know the truth and the truth will set you free,nothing more.
A man who is born-again,born of God,born of the Spirit of God do COMMIT sin,the incorruptible seed of God lies in Him., he does not find Joy in commiting sin and all the ones you put above.

Bidam: The statement applied to me as well as every who comes to the cross for salvation.I have to confess my sins to get SAVED.Salvation is immediate and at the same time progressive.

Lemme post what John said for the benefit of others.

There are three main verses in 1 John that say that Christians who are truly born of the Spirit of God do not sin, and in fact cannot sin. They are:

No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. (1 John 3:9)

We know that no one who is born of God sins; but He who was born of God keeps him and the evil one does not touch him. (1 John 5:18)

No one who abides in Him sins; no one who sins has seen Him or knows Him. (1 John 3:6)

I am born of God so i cannot sin because that's the nature of God.

Even if i sin( acts) THE BLOOD OF JESUS automatically cleanses me if i confess them.

Here what John says also which most people think it's contradictory.

If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves, and the truth is not in us. (1 John 1:

If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us. (1 John 1:10)

But John is simply referring to your soulish fleshy realm which PAUL ENCOURAGED US TO MORTIFY. This is different from the born again spirit which is the residence of the Holy Spirit. Spirit do not and cannot sin. The Holy Spirit is a seal,downpayment in me given by God till the day i would be redeemed from this earthly realm.

Unlike you i do not go to a priest to confess my soulish sins. I confess it to Jesus the High priest and to my fellow brothers and sisters in the Faith.As far as i am concerned i do not and cannot sin because i am Christ-like.

Knowing this, our old self was crucified with Him, that our body of sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves to sin; for he who has died is freed from sin. (Rom 6:6-7)

Even so consider yourselves to be dead to sin,.... (Rom 6:11)

Therefore, my brethren, you also were made to die to the Law through the body of Christ, that you might be joined to another, to Him who was raised from the dead, that we might bear fruit for God. (Rom 7:4)

Bro Bidam,God bless you,this is as clear as anything,i hope he sees the truth in the above.

anochuko01: explain aw d quran resulted to Jesus been God's word and His Spirit at the same time!
if i work for my dad, i'll be be his staff and his son at the same time. Isnt it? But i would av a closer relatnshp with him dan other staffs.....isnt it?
Clearly, Its u who isnt thinking deeply enough.

Nicely put.

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italo: You obviously have nothing concrete to add.

You just feel compelled to talk anyway.

It makes you feel like a winner, I guess.

Well,i guess no one in this thread will have anything concrete to say until they support your invented fallacy,no?

Bidam: God bless you jare. I believe you know by now who italo is.

I am not actually surprised.

voltron: Even Jesus Christ was not without SIN.. being Born Again does not mean without SIN it means having the grace and growing a back-bone to resist temptation and begin living for Christ..by no means is it a badge of Righteousness as previously thought

Pardon?

italo: Truth goes straightforward; lies go roundabout.

The questions were:

Are you born of God?

Have you ever committed a sin since you became born of God?

An what did you do when Bidam answered you?
Continue in your delusion.

Nice one@Op.
Let me quickly add,d gift of the Spirit is just for the edification of the church and brethen; we shld all covet the fruit of the Spirit.
Without the fruit of the Spirit you have no place with the Father and nowhere near the kingdom of God.

harbiola1: Relax man! I knw that Muhammed(saw) is not in the bible, @ least as long as u're concern.

Answered in my frmer post

Elijah truly shall first come and restore all things. But I say unto you that Elijah is come already and they knew him not.
But they have done unto him whatsoever they listed, likewise shall also the Son of man Suffer of them.Then the Disciples understood that He spake unto them of John the Baptist.
Matthew 17:11-13

i dnt knw the point you are trying to make here. But if you read from verse 1 of the chapter 17,you will know that what happend here was the transfiguration. And pls reread slowly cus i dnt get ur point here.

Jesus was is the Moshiach.[/s]
If the above to you means messiah,then YES,Jesus is the messiah.


[quote]I hope Bible is completed and all the prophecies of Old Covenant is fulfiled. Then who and what is the name of the Prophet that was prophesied?

1. Who is a prophet?
2. Who do you think John the baptist was sent to prepare d way for.
3. Which prophet were they expecting.
The answer lies in ur sincere answer to the above.

I'm not arguing that He(saw) is there. Bt i just like knwing somethings which seem unclear to me and that is why i'm in NL.

Ok,i hope so.

mahdino: I have explain to that its Mohammadm u have ur right not to believe, but u will have to tell us that there was a prophet apart from him that was given a book and he was not learned.

Please tell us who was Jesus refering to when he said in in John 16:7-8 and John 16: 12-14
Definately these prophecies fit Mohammad like a hand glove, u don't have to struggle or twist for u to see how it fits him.

I think i am done with you,you actually didnt not disappoint me with ur quoting from d book of John,i said it before and really did it. Jesus was not refering to Mohammed who is a man and long dead...ur mohammed cannot do what Jesus said the Holy Spirit will do. Stop puting him there.
All prophets in the Bible are respected by christains,if u prophet is there,he wld v been duely recognized.
Now when you are talking abt prophecy,a prophecy shld be very clear and not shady and fraudulent like what you were doing.
For instance,the coming of Jesus was well prophesied in d OT:
His place of birth was prophesyd,His virgin Birth,His kind of birth,His kind of death,even His betrayal was well prophesyd...i cn go on with examples,even His name was seen in the OT,that is a prophesy,very clear and straightforward,not the kind which you guys are trying to do with the Bible...i don't knw why it is dificult for u guys to accept that ur prophet is not in the Bible.

Bidam: YES

NO

Any objections? @Mintayo,thanks for that apt response to the OP.

You actually shouldnt have answered him...He needs to study the Word more and stop looking for excuses to sin.
Thanks too,God bless you.

italo: So when Jesus taught us to pray by saying "forgive us our sins," and "pray without ceasing," he wasn't referring to impeccable souls like you abi?

He was only referring to sinners like Sts Peter, Paul, John, Matthew etc...abi?

I can now see how fake you are.
You see the reason why i didnt answer you? It didnt change anything,Bidam answered you and see what u came up with? Smh.
Like i said,whether you believe me or not,IT IS YOUR PROBLEM.

Have a little mb,then subscribed for the 200naira weekly mb,now i cnt browse at all,the browsing network just disappeared from my andriod phone...since yesterday.

italo: Dont bother writing a long epistle. Your inability to answer the simple question speaks volumes.

Truth goes straightforward; lies go roundabout.

lol,like i said,that is your problem...i know who i am,i know who i am in Christ Jesus,i know i am born of God and His seed remains in Me...i hope you are born of God too.

mahdino: I have refered u to Isaiah chapter 29 verse 12, check with how Mohammad (SAW) start to get the revelation and u will see that it was refering to none other than Mohammad (SAW)

And you think bcus of that,its refering to mohammed?smhg.
Maybe you should read the whole chapter and come back and explain. My friend it doesnt add up,do i have write verses here?

harbiola1: Relax man! I knw that Muhammed(saw) is not in the bible, @ least as long as u're concern.

Its so glaring for all to see,its not about my concern,its about the truth.we christains respect all prophets in the Bible and ur mohammed is not there.

Elijah truly shall first come and restore all things. But I say unto you that Elijah is come already and they knew him not.
[quote]But they have done unto him whatsoever they listed, likewise shall also the Son of man Suffer of them.[
Then the Disciples understood that He spake unto them of John the Baptist.
Matthew 17:11-13
Jesus was the Moshiach.
I hope Bible is completed and all the prophecies of Old Covenant is fulfiled. Then who and what is the name of the Prophet that was prophesied?
Not at all.
I'm not arguing that He(saw) is there. Bt i just like knwing somethings which seem unclear to me and that is why i'm in NL.

Sorry,i didnt get anything from the above.

italo: Truth goes straightforward; lies go roundabout.

The deception and hypocrisy is now clear to see.

That is your problem. The last time i checked,I am not answerable and accountable to you.
The Word of God can not be broken,that is how you people twist the scriptures to suit your selfish,sinful and evil desires.
Just to make things clear,born again christains do not COMMIT sin because they have the seed(incorruptible) of God in them. They do not make sin their lifestyle.

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italo: To simplify the matter:

Are you born of God?

Have you ever committed a sin since you became born of God?

Does my answering the question change what is written in the scriptures? Does it change the Word of God? Smhg.

dyfatai: mintayo, pls answer dis question.

Thanks

And if i don't?

italo: Who said Holy Spirit inspires sin.

You have created that position...and you are now arguing against it.

Good luck.

All I know is that the Holy Spirit says anyone that claims not to have sin has no truth in him. (1 John 1:8 )

Maybe you should reread my post,this time very slowly.
That is your own interpretation...it is better you read from verse 5.
1 John 3:9 says that...
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for His(God)seed remaineth in Him: and he CANNOT sin because he is BORN OF GOD.
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Once you are born again,the seed of God lives in you,the nature of sin has been destroyed...you are born of God.

italo: The Holy Spirit that inspired John 1:8.

I know you people have many Holy Spirits that teach you many contradictory doctrines.

lool,there is no point dragging issue with you...you ppl do nt actually have d Holy Spirit,cus i wonder what kinda Holy Spirit will inspire you to commit sin.
BTW@Op,Emusan and inochukwu have answered you perfectly.

harbiola1: The Jewish levites posed these questions to John:

John 1:20-21
1. Art thou ELIAS?

2. Art thou CHRIST?

3. Art thou That PROPHET?

According to the Bible, Who is ELIAS, CHRIST & THAT PROPHET?

Ohh,d same old story,very soon you will shift base to Deuteronomy,they John,where Jesus promised us the 'comforter'...
Jew and Arab,no correlation...
The above says the Jews...nothing arab there.
The above is very glaring...John d baptist was not Elijah,He was not the messiah or Christ neither is He the prophet prophesied in the OT...
Maybe you should read further to verse 23...except u want to tell me John was preparing d way for ur mohammed(i wnt be surprised if u do).
Mohammed is not in d Bible,not even close. He is not even mentioned let alone being a prophet in the Bible..

harbiola1: Those prophesies are somewhat clear and direct, but till this hour, Jews (the original owner of OT) haven't acknowledge Jesus as their book called him.

What do you think is happening?

the fact that some jews did/do not accept Jesus is a prophecy fulfilled on its own.