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Golden Dr.:
janet and john college, judevic college, bright hope group of school e't.c all in the location you mentioned.

harbiola1: Bro, Are you talking about the same God that cast delusion into the mind of John and said He is not ELIJAH contrary to Jesus that said John is ELIJAH?

noblefada: Very funny hw u clearly avoided my post, just smh. Sorry friend you've been deceived!

noblefada: Ok I think is about time I step into this and stop this confusion that has been raging for a long while now, when the answer is simply in the scriptures. Now let's go back and quote the scriptures and explain it: John 1:19-21 NKJV
Now this is the testimony of John, when the Jews sent priests and Levites from Jerusalem to ask him, "Who are you?" [20] He confessed, and did not deny, but confessed, "I am not the Christ." [21] And they asked him, "What then? Are you Elijah?" He said, "I am not." "Are you the Prophet?" And he answered, "No." which you rightly quoted above, but the messiah is the same as the prophet because if you guys had bothered to read the gospel of John further you would have seen it right there in the same book, quoting again from the same John: John 6:14 NKJV
Then those men, when they had seen the sign that Jesus did, said, "This is truly the Prophet who is to come into the world."
You guys should stop this ur ignorant ranting and accept the fact that Mohammad (saw) was NEVER prophesied about in the bible. Shalom.

Mintayo: John 1:45.
45. Philip findeth Nathaniel and said unto Him,we have found him,of whom Moses in the Law,and the prophets,did write,Jesus of Nazareth,the son of Joseph.

harbiola1: A crawling baby will tell you that those Levites were talking about SEPERATE PERSONS.

If you are Neither
ELIJAH
Nor
THE CHRIST
Not
THE PROPHET.

WHO ART THOU?

May be you should ask another person.

Very simple!

(3)like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken.
They will he from the Prophet the same way they used to hear from Moses.

This took me to the book of John 16
4.) 12. I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
13. Howbeit when he, the spirit of truth is come, he will guide you into all truth; for HE SHALL NOT SPEAK OF HIMSELF BUT WHATSOEVER HE SHALL HEAR SHALL HE SPEAK.
I can post 500+ words from the Quran that fulfilled the Prophecies above.
Now for clarification purpose, u will have to address those 4 prophecies that directly prophesied the coming of A Prophet and the Comforter.
Don't attack me yet on the issue of the Comforter because i've said anything on it. Your is to just say how Jesus and the Holy spirit fit into those Prophecies.

harbiola1: ^^Where did you get this your interpolation from?
Was fellow Isrealite written in the verse
1.Jesus is not considered as a Prophet but Muhammed is.

2. Jesus is not the Jewish brethen because himself is a Jew. The Jews are 1 racial entity.

Jews and Arabs are brethen from Sarah and Hagar.

"And he (Ishmael) shall dwell in the presence of all his BRETHEN" Gen. 16:12
"And he (Ishmael) died in the presence of all his BRETHEN"
Gen. 25:18.
Who are the BRETHEN of Ishmael in these verses?

harbiola1: Very simple, BOTH!

proo212: Since we expecting either a Messiah or a Prophet or a Messiah and a Prophet, his followers believed He was the Messiah and the "Prophet". He certainly referred to Himself as a prophet as well in the book of Luke 13 starting from verse 33



As well as this



The people said it



Even his followers believe he was Messiah and the "Prophet" from Acts 3:23-26

harbiola1: Chai, what is the meaning of all these now, how can we come up with a sensible point in all these argumentative essay vomited up there?
This is why i said you should give ur reasons one by one.

This >> "The Lord you God will raise up for you a prophet like me FROM AMONG YOUR FELLOW ISRAELITES." is the only reasonable thing i can point at.

You know how i earned my 1point. so you also have to do it in a mature manner. quote a sentence from the verses and tell us how it is applicable to Jesus, as simple as that.

Are we ready?

Golden Dr.:
janet and john college, judevic college, bright hope group of school e't.c all in the location you mentioned.

deols: There are many of this kind of letter. I will search and if I find them, post them here. It is inherently a part of Islam to protect people of other faith found in Islamic territory.

I believe what we see now in the form of intolerance from some Muslims stem from the crusade(killings by the christians.).

Muslims who would not see beyond vengeance decided to take up arms against those whom they see to have wronged them. This certain belief grew into the different terror organisations that exist now. I just wish they can all see this aspect of Islam and realise they are very wrong.

harbiola1: You don't like to be shown the truth from the bible. I wonder why you guys talk like kid. A whole Pastor saying somebody is twisting the bible when you can explicitly address the confusion.

A Prophet is not the Messiah or John.
The conversation between John and those Jews explicitly show it that.
Elijah is not Messiah.
Elijah is not The Prophet.

Messiah is not Elijah.
Messiah is not the Prophet.

The Prophet is not Elijah.
The Prophet is not Christ.

If you are Not Elijah,
Nor Messiah,
Neither the Prophet.

WHO Art Thou?

When they know that Messiah is the same as The Prophet, why were they seperating them?

harbiola1: Muhammed(saw) 1p
Jesus(as) 0p
one after the other pls.

harbiola1: Look at you!

Why is it that you can't find any of ur 500+ prophecies about the coming of Jesus except in the OT that you guys rejected.

proo212: Mintayo, Emusan,

I understand your position. This has been thrashed on this board severally. From the questions asked, the people knew about Elijah (as a prophet, they were expecting the Messiah as well as the "Prophet"

We can begin to analyse from the prophecy in Deut 18 like you pointed out.

This convicts their prophet in many ways, but I list 3 here

1. He is not from among their brethren (they like to argue that since they are descendants of Ishmael, they are cousins so cousins can mean brethren). If so why was no arab or Ishmaelite a priest even in the house of God. Remember when they came out Egypt, the bible says they had a mixed multitudes with them
2. He didn't hear from God directly (God never spoke to him). An angel revealed things to him, he certainly did not know God face to face.
3. God did mighty works through His "prophets". Signs and wonders followed them except one. Even the disciples of the Messiah and the "Prophet" performed signs and wonders.

Both of these prophets knew when their end had come and had no doubts what their destinies were after their end. The same cannot be said of the prophet who did not know what their God will do with time.

Mintayo: the fact that some jews did/do not accept Jesus is a prophecy fulfilled on its own.

WHξξ∟s:
What I deduce from this discourse is harbiola in his curious nature put a self substantiating question in a bid to acquire knowledge from the gentle christians here, and his intention was genuine that's why he humbled himself to beg for answers from you folks. The thread was about prophecies and fulfillments that's why he raised the issue of an awaited prophet, please share the knowledge with him if you know the person who fulfill that prophecy or excuse yourselves if you are ignorant about what he asked.

harbiola1: I'm Trying to discredit bible while u're trying to credit it, but who is biaz for concealing the truth.
You know in ur mind what is happening in that verses so don't discredit me with any unfounded allegation.
I can't pet you any longer. The truth stands firmly while an error is shaking.
If you want to know the Prophet in that verse, read ur bible with the talent that God gave you.
It was John Vs Jesus over Elijah.
Now John Vs Jewish levites over Messiah and The Prophet.
If you like open ur mind for the truth and if you don't, den na u SABI.

harbiola1: No! Let use the same weight that christians used (e.g Jesus lived in such&such, Jesus is like such&such) to come out from theory into law as it's in those verses up there. Then after given me a clue of such, the onus would be on me to counter-attack ur theory. On a longrun, somebody will come out with the Purest Law. Lo ba tan (It's finished)



Even if man Changed/Denied it like Jews did, it is for his/her own innocent soul.

Clueless! like in strange world. Lets use the above system

I hope i've

ayooluniran: I'm really sad right now because people don't understand what christianity is all about.....first, the pastor didn't mean physical confrontation, he meant evangelizing to and praying for people that drink in dat area.....this is for non-christians to know. The Second thing I'd like to say is to christians only, because non-christians cannot understand..... of a truth I personally can't point out a place in d bible where humans are clearly not asked to drink wine...however, the bible says there must be a distinction between a christian and people of d world....how would you feel if u heard pastor adeboye drinking....anything you do as a christian that makes people doubt if u are truly a child of God should be done away with. The word Christian means 'like christ'. Christ never drank wine, infact all nazarenes and prophets in d bible didn't drink wine. Paul permitted timothy to drink just a little wine because of d ulcer he had.

My third point is on tithes...the only people I'm addressing here on tithes are christians...non christians would not understand why we pay tithes...according to malachi chapter 3, God ordained tithes (1/10 of every profit we make or salary)so that he would protect the remaining 9/10 and ensure we enjoy it and don't spend it on sickness and disasters, another reason is that there may be food in his house (the church), for pastors (who are not meant to work), widows, the needy and to further the Gospel. So when u are paying your tithe, see it as paying it to God not the pastor....the bible clearly says God said we should leave him to judge his servants/pastors and dat we should not judge them ourselves.....most importantly you've obeyed God....and believe me it hs always worked for me....actually I've been paying 25% instead of 10% since 2007 and God has increased me greatly....in d last 10yrs I only remember falling sick once, my first car was brand new and it was a gift, I've been married for 2yrs and I have a happy family......I'm just 27years old and from a family which in some years back had to ransack d house for coins to buy 1 or 2cups of rice....no meat oh! We had to pick snails in d environment to cook as meat.

So my dear friends, the choice is yours .....the eyes of the lord run to and fro throughout the earth to show himself strong on d behalf of those whose heart are perfect towards him. Love you all...*kisses*

Promhize: Mr sharap jare, religion is part of the reasons why Africa is so backward. Dull minded people, why don't you pray God brings food to ur house every morning.

The tithe part is no argument, the pastor kun was right.

harbiola1: This's what i got; "I will raise them up a prophet from among their breathen, like unto thee and i will put my words in his mouth. And he shall speak unto them all that i. shall command him"

Lol, leg puller! I knw u have the best candidate in person of Jesus Christ. But pls can u give us THREE EVIDENCES to confirm this.

aManFromMars: Evening, everyone.

Remembrance service for my siblings and friends who died in the Sosoliso plane crash in 2005. Wouldn't be too much to ask for prayers for my family, right?



How una dey?

Pastor Kun: The Pastor Oseni must have been drunk when he made that statement. He should first repent from the tithe fraud perpetuated in his church before he thinks of ridding Lagos of criminals.

Rilwayne001: I guess you need help on this christianity stuff

Here
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