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[quote author=Bsbabe post=62433402]Thanks everyone... Please below is some part of the document received. So is it ADR, "pre PPR-ADR" or PPR. Each was requested for spouse and dependents. Thank you

This is in reference to your application for permanent residence in Canada. In order for us to
continue the processing of your application, we require the following documents:

 > Height (in CM) and eye color details . This information is required for
yourself and each of your dependants. This must be received at this office by:
2017/12/16
Passport/Travel Document: Valid passport or travel document . Please
provide a copy of the biopage of your passport. This must be received at this office by:
2017/12/16

The above information/documents must be received in our office within 30 days from the date of
this letter. Failure to do so could result in the refusal of your application. Please quote your
complete application number on your correspondence.

Just write a short note about whatever it is that attracts you to Ontario. I simply wrote that I the environment Will help me thrive career wise, good place for kids to grow ,nice schools etc. Nothing special. Just write something.
Some people don't think it's necessary to write an intention to reside but for me I believe it's better safe than sorry. Didn't want to leave anything to chance

Will I have to write a consent letter and attach to the certificate saying she can use the invested funds or what? I'm confused.

Yes write a letter saying she has use the funds. That's what we did for treasury bill which was in my husband's name .

Ehiobe:
Please for those of you that had your babies in USA or Canada any need to attach birth receipt along with the application? Was anyone asked for it?

Not at all .

Ehiobe:
Please for those of you that had your babies in USA or Canada any need to attach birth receipt along with the application? Was anyone asked for it?

Not at all

Estac:
Please pardon my ignorance. What is the challenge lawyers have with PNP?

Please don't mind what I said. My guess is just that with PNP(ontario to be precise because I don't know about the requirements of others) they ask for bank statement showing salary deposits and I'm aware that most law firms pay cash especially the small law firms so you have to find an alternative means to prove salary payments which would be tricky in this instance.

Amybest123:
Hi people!
Pls is there any lawyer who'd gone through PNP and succeeded? If yes, holla a sister in need. May God bless us all. Together we achieve.

I'm a lawyer and I went through PNP (Ontario). Currently at NA waiting for IP2. What do you need to know? Just so you're aware ,my NOC is not law related because I think I have an idea what your challenge might be.

That was what I thought too which made me remove my mind from my PR application until I saw an interesting email notification in my inbox yesterday . My timeline is as follows

PNP Outland -Ontario
E-apr - 4th July
Aor-4th July
Medicals passed - 15th August
IP 1 - 15th August
N/A- 18th August

I'm so excited. Didn't think I would see any update until maybe in 5 months time.






quote author=calfy post=59571069]

Hi, please how long did your PR application take. I can see that PR applications through provincial nomination take longer than the normal EE.[/quote]

I'm assuming by now you should have gotten your nomination. Mine took about a month and 2 weeks.

calfy:
Thanks for your post. I wish I had the information on IQAS and law degree from Nigeria, I would have used my wife as the principal applicant, since she has a law degree and is much younger too (did her ECA with WES). Anyways, I got NOI from ONTARIO and my application is at Decision in Progress since 20th of July and my question is - How long does it take from Decision in Progress to Approval?
Thanks for your feedback.

sorry I'm just noticing this and replying late. Not too familiar with how the site works.

1)I provided ever thing they asked for regarding proof of compensation except reference letter which I didn't have(elaborated in my post)

2)I used only treasury bill certificate which have been in the account for about a year. No bank statement.

3)Just wrote a short statement about why I love the environment and how it will favor my career path. Made mention of some professional organisations I saw on their website that I would join....

quote author=IAMCOMING post=58724177]
Hi I am here again. Please i will like to have more information on the following

1. please what did you show to support your proof of compensation - (pay stub, bank statement and all) i read in the application guide that for proof of compensation we have to provide these
Pay stubs, pay cheques or pay statements,
• Bank statements showing salary deposits,
• Income tax documents, or
• Letter(s) from employer(s) explaining why this proof is not readily available.
Note: It is recommended that you provide proof for the first and last month for each work experience.
(the income tax document and the NOTE that is my concern)

2 did you have to maintain the settlement fund as your minimum balance for 6 months prior to your application?

3 How did you show your intent to reside in Ontario?

Please forgive my plenty questions . thanks for quick response[/quote]

please i want to know if the last stage of the "pretrial check list" ,the part about login into the training department is to be done before the pretrial date or on the day of .Because i tried to login but nothing happens.

I have received an invitation for the trial run . I just went through the thread and noticed a lot of discouraging comments. Please i want to encourage people who like me are not working and are looking for a job.Kindly apply if you're able to perform the Job requirements .What exactly do you have to loose.Besides ,it is also a learning curve. And yes,maybe they are paying "peanuts" so let those commenting on how they are earning big money show you how they are doing it and introduce you to it instead of coming here to distract us from starting from somewhere.

chinchum:
@mire222
Send a mail to cpc-ctd-ottawa@cic.gc.ca asking for your visa office, and follow the below format.

Thank you chinchum

chinchum:
Ask this question on the express entry thread, i will provide an answer over there.

Thank you. I appreciate

chinchum:
Ask this question on the express entry thread, i will provide an answer over there.

No need, found my answer. For future reference, anybody that needs an answer to that my question can check Fusion25's comments. He made a statement about it in passing. Thanks Fusion25 for all your inputs. Very insightful

The post below is copied. Thought it was informative to share especially for those applying with kids. But the post is dated 2011 don't know if there have been changes since then.

Canadian Schooling system
"As an immigrating parent, understanding Canada's school system is of fundamental importance -- especially due to the gradation structure, age considerations & varieties available. If you're coming from the UK, it's very different and can be a confusing and often misunderstood.

OVERVIEW

Sans the Pvt Schools - Education in Canada is publicly funded and overseen by federal, provincial, and local governments. Which means, our children get to be educated for free. [I repeat]Schooling is provided without charge for all residents of Canada - they have a right to education.

Schools in Canada are generally divided into Elementary education, followed by Secondary or "High School". Within the provinces under the ministry of education, there are "District School Boards" administering the educational programs. These school boards would follow a common curriculum set up by the province the board resides in. Only Alberta allows public charter schools, which are independent of any district board. Instead, they each have their own board, which reports directly to the province.

Compulsory Education
Education is compulsory between the ages of 6 to 16 in every province in Canada, except Ontario and New Brunswick, where the compulsory age is 18. Most children begin school at age 4, with part time schooling called "Kindergarten". Elementary school generally runs between grades 1 to 8, and Secondary [or] “high school” between grades 9 and 12.

Note:
- About one out of ten [1:10] Canadians do not have a high school diploma – one in seven [1:7] has a university degree – the adult population that is without a high school diploma is a combination of both immigrant and Canadian-born. In many places, publicly-funded high school courses are offered to the adult population.
- Canada spends about 7% of its GDP on education. Since the adoption of section 23 of the Constitution Act, 1982, education in both English and French has been available in most places across Canada (if the population of children speaking the minority language justifies it), although French Second Language [FSL] education/French Immersion is available to anglophone students across Canada.

THE SCHOOL YEAR

The school year runs from September to June, five days a week, for usually six hours a day. Canada generally has 190 school days in the year, officially starting from September (after Labour Day) to the end of June (usually the last Friday of the month, except some cases in Quebec when it is just before June 24 – the provincial holiday).

THE CURRICULUM

Canada has its own unique schooling standards - it is run neither as the UK, nor on the US patterns. The standard is intrinsic to its own culture, traditions & development strategies.

The curriculum is designed to elicit development and quality of people's cognition through the guiding of accommodations of individuals to their natural environment and their changing social order. Some Canadian scholars view academics as a form of "soft power" - helping to educate and to create positive attitudes.

Furthermore, subjects that typically get assessed (i.e., language, arts, mathematics, and science) assume greater importance than non-assessed subjects (i.e., music, visual arts, and physical education) or facets of the curriculum (i.e., reading & writing versus speaking & listening). The students in the Canadian school system receive a variety of classes that are offered to them. The system is set up to meet the diverse needs of the individual student.

Advantages of Canadian schooling
- Canadian schools generally are more relaxed.
- They aim to nurture well rounded individuals.
- Kids carry a backpack - but usually don't have much books or note-pads.
- Instead it'd have an Agenda [School diary] & two [2] Tiffin boxes [a Snack box & a Lunch box] - they get three [3] breaks a day!
- Students of walking distance from the school get to go home for lunch.
- Students afar [but within the neighborhood] get the school Transportation* - for FREE.
- Many parents report that their children are happier and less stressed at Canadian schools than they were at their overseas schools.
*It's a regulation that our kids go to their neighborhood schools [only].

TYPES OF SCHOOLS

There are multiple types of schooling available for our children in Canada:
1. Public Schools – The public school system in Canada is free. Children are not required to wear uniforms. -Free school
2. Catholic Schools – The Catholic school system is also free. Students here are required to wear uniforms. -Free school
3. Private Schools – Private schools charge tuition fees, and can be expensive. Uniforms are required at most private schools. -Paid school
4. Ethnic Schools – Uniformed & Charged - they offer a specialized curriculum based on language, religion or ethnicity. -Paid school
5. Home schooling – Parents can choose to teach their children at home, but they are expected to meet the same standards of the public system.

Private Schools

Only about 8% of students are in private schools. A minority of these are "elite" private schools. It is not unusual for the wealthy and prominent in Canada to send their children to public schools [Note: Not Private Schools], especially in the lower grades. Private schools are also used to study outside the country. Eg. Canadian College Italy has an Ontario curriculum, but the students study in Italy.

Private schools have historically been less common on the Canadian Prairies and were often forbidden under municipal and provincial statutes enacted to provide equality of education to students regardless of family income. This is especially true in Alberta, where successive Social Credit (or populist conservative) governments denounced the concept of private education as the main cause of denial of opportunity to the children of the working poor. These rules lasted longer than Social Credit; it was only in 1989 that private K-12 schools were allowed to operate inside the boundaries of the City of Calgary.

Ethnic / Religious schools

Each province deals differently with private religious schools. Ontario has several private Jewish, Muslim, and Christian schools all funded through tuition fees. In other provinces many privately operated religious schools are funded [not all]. In British Columbia the government pays 50% of the cost of religious schools that meet rigorous provincial standards. The province has a number of Sikh, Hindu, Christian, and Muslim schools.

Alberta also has a network of charter schools, which are fully funded schools offering distinct approaches to education within the public school system. Alberta charter schools are not private and the province does not grant charters to religious schools. These schools have to follow the provincial curriculum and meet all standards, but are given considerable freedom in other areas. In all other provinces private religious schools receive some funding, but not as much as the public system.

Catholic Schools

In Ontario, the Catholic system continues to be fully publicly funded [akin to Public schools] - while other faiths are not. Since the Catholic schools system is entrenched in the constitution, the Supreme Court has ruled that this system is constitutional. However, the UNHRC has ruled that Ontario's system is discriminatory, suggesting that Ontario either fund no faith-based schools, or all of them. In 2002 the government of Mike Harris introduced a controversial program to partially fund all private schools, but this was criticized for undermining the public education system and the program was eliminated after the Liberals won the 2003 provincial election.

Schooling in Quebec Vs. Other Provinces

Quebecers must attend a French School up until the end of high school, unless one of their parents previously attended an English-language school somewhere in Canada (immigrants from other countries cannot use this exception). In other provinces, English Speakers are not allowed to attend French Schools, unless one of the parent has French language as mother tongue, but they can easily attend French Immersion Schools.

Age Vs. Grade in Canadian Schools
(Except the province of Quebec)

Which Grade my kids will be admitted to when we 'land'?
Contrary to whatever Grade/Class/Std our kids were studying overseas [or in our homeland] as we 'land' here our kids would be taken into a Grade as per his/her age. Here is which grade they'd attend/admitted to, as per their age group...

Early childhood education
- Junior Kindergarten (ages 4–5)
- Kindergarten (ages 5–6)

Elementary education
- Grade 1 (ages 6–7)
- Grade 2 (ages 7–
- Grade 3 (ages 8–9)
- Grade 4 (ages 9–10)
- Grade 5 (ages 10–11)
- Grade 6 (ages 11–12)
- Grade 7 (ages 12–13)
- Grade 8 (ages 13–14)

Secondary education
- Grade 9 (ages 14–15)
- Grade 10 (ages 15–16)
- Grade 11 (ages 16–17)
- Grade 12 (ages 17–18)
- Grade 12+ (ages 18+)

NOTE:
1. Students in the Prairie provinces are not required by statute to attend kindergarten.
2. Kindergarten is not often available in smaller towns.

Which school [location] my kids will join?
By regulation our children get to join the "neighborhood school" [unless we want them to go to a Pvt. School]. District School Boards demarcate school boundaries based on neighborhoods. And every neighborhood WILL HAVE certain no. of schools, both Elementary as well as Secondary [Yes, they are different School buildings/premises].

How will I know which school "belongs" to my neighborhood?
Yes, this could be tricky. Especially when you 'physically see' a school nearby, but on approaching u find that this one doesn't cater to your locality. Usually that school will guide u to the right school. However, u may also check the same by visiting the District School Board's website. Eg. if u r in Toronto - hit TDSB, similarly if u r in Mississauga/Brampton - hit PDSB. [U'd find those links below, in the end of this post]

How will my kids go to school from my residence?
If the school is within walking distance - we r to escort our kids to school everyday... but, not necessary - 'Coz, every Xing, street intersections will have "Traffic Marshals" [identifiable thru their security jackets] placed during the school hrs. This is Awesome here! - so, even if our kids walk alone - they r quite safe. Moreover, cycling to school is appreciated/advocated. And with the weather - this is no daunting task.

What if that school is 2 Kms away from my residence?
If the school is beyond walking distance [will be informed by the school] - the children get to take the "School Buss" - for FREE. Busses r operated by Pvt. Contractors, but specially for school transportation, colored Yellow, shall pick-up/drop our kids from vantage points [near our residence]... many times that could be next to the home as well. The Bus No. shall be informed to us by the school - we do not need to be perturbed on that aspect!

Rain or shine or Snow?
Not a problem! Kids here r used to sporting a 'rain cape' &/or carrying Umbrellas to school. Usually, they would also be wearing Rain Boots [call it Gum Boots - if u may]. And during snowing season - they'd sport appropriate winter dress & Snow Boots [incidentally all these garments would be available everywhere during these seasons - Walmart, Canadian Tire, Zellers, Sears et all shall suffice for our sourcing... & if in Toronto - u may hit the Honest Ed's as well, for the more price-concious among us!]

Will my kids be admitted to school whenever we 'land'?
Typically the neighborhood school is duty bound to accept admittance of our children whenever we want to in Canada. Remember the school session commences from September to June... however, if we 'land' in October - yet the local school will take-in our kids. Ditto for any other months as well. Another eg. suppose we 'land' in April/May - School will be closing in June - still our kids WILL BE accepted in the school.

What documentation is required for School Admission?
1. Child Immunization Record > http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/-t61790.0.html
2. School Transfer Certificate
3. Birth Certificate
4. Residential Lease Contract [or Home Purchase Deed]

What dress my kids will wear to school everyday?
On a hindsight I guess many will again post this query... remember once again - Public Schools in Canada is w/out "Uniform" - our children will wear any appropriate dress [usual clothing] to school. An exception to this is the Catholic & Ethnic Schools - which require students to wear the prescribed uniform.

Which one is better - Public schools or Private Schools?
Another question many ask me - where should I get my children admitted to - Public Schools or the Private schools? Let me inform u with certainty that the curriculum, & standards of both r the same. Ditto the teachers & staff... they all come from the same basket, don't they? These schools do have a great deal of prestige and prominence [there r many "elite" ones as well]... but that is all in the head! The fact remains that Pvt. Schools r attended by only a small fraction of students. Besides, they r often beyond our affordability, especially for newcomers. Then again, we chose to come to Canada especially considering 'free education' factor, among some others, didn't we? IMHO, why to waste our funds, when many of the illuminati actually came out of the Public Schools? BTW, Public schools in Canada r pretty good!

How to locate/assess "good" Public schools?
Another myth [purely my opinion again] is "assessing" Canadian schools against each other. The factual position is that each one is typically the same - as described earlier... Nonetheless, if we need to yet perform this task, Fraser Institute "ranks" most schools in Canada. Check here: http://www.compareschoolrankings.org/Index.aspx

Do I locate my residence based on "good" schools?
Again a debatable point... I would say "No". As enumerated earlier, it doesn't matter which school my kids go, at least in the Elementary stage/s. Lot other factors would determine where I chose to locate my residence, eg. my employment, proximity to friends/relatives, my ethnicity/religion [not advocated though, seriously!], cost of renting/buying, neighborhood assessment etc. Read here for the Toronto Neighborhoods' details:
http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/-t66734.0.html

subomi123:
Thanks for the reply, i have one more question to ask. Regarding the ECA duplicate for the OINP application, in my express entry profile i claimed point for my spouse education. will i need to request his own ECA too and also do i need to upload the kids birth certificate? Regards

ECA duplicate request is only for principal applicant. I can't remember if kids birth certificate was needed for OINP but I'm sure you will need it after ITA .

Bimz89:
Hi everyone

Please can i use gift deed to support my proof of fund for Ontario's provincial nomination? and should i click on "all provinces" or Ontario alone when creating a new profile in order o get provincial nomination from Ontario? Thank you.

Please download their "Human capital stream "application guide to check if gift deed qualifies. I don't know the answer to that. Personally I clicked "all provinces " just to be on the safe side. When you do, make sure you look out for a drop down menu which ask something like if Ontario can contact you, then click the box. Also I'm not sure how they are issuing the NOI (notification of interest) now but sometimes you need to recreate your profile for that message to drop whenever they start issuing.

[quote author=IAMCOMING post=58211827]Thank you so much for your story. Please how did you request for a duplicate ECA to Ontario from IQAS and did you pay extra for this?

Yes I paid extra for it. About 20 dollars I think. Sorry I can't remember the cost but while filling the request form on their website, you will see it. For people with WES, someone mentioned something around 74 dollars(abeg don't quote me, check first cos I'm not sure).Meanwhile remember that the annoying cost incurred was that of mailing the application documents through EMS(cost me 13k) instead of just sending a fax for free. Now you know better so even if have to mail the documents, at least use FEDEX etc .it would have cost me an extra 2 grand but at least they would have delivered on time. Or better still start processing your application for duplicate right before you apply to OINP.

adewa1980:
Thanks for the lovely post, pls regarding the OINP is it compulsory to list all the paid job in the last ten year in my application? They are jobs that i didn't gain point and i did them while studying.

Yes ,you should list all paid jobs in the last 10 years and provide documents/references for it. Someone said he only provided contract letters for the previous jobs and reference for his current job and his application was approved. Please note the difference with CIC here. Because they will not ask for reference for jobs you're not claiming points for if you put it in PERSONAL HISTORY. why don't you just list that period as "study" and leave out the jobs since you're not claiming points for it.

I am a silent reader of this thread and I have benefited immensely from the contributions here which is why I am motivated to give back especially because my case is peculiar so I hope it will encourage or help someone. please before I begin, I would like to encourage people to read the thread from beginning before coming to ask questions that have been flogged and over flogged on the thread. It makes the thread unnecessarily long which in turn discourages people who would have actually put in effort to start from the beginning and there are little important inputs within that would help someone which could be missed if one does not read through.

My degree is in law but my NOC is in management ." Iphie's "posts led me to use IQAS for my evaluation instead of the popular WES because an LLB is awarded more marks as professional degree which going through WES doesn't give. This boosted my CRS. I evaluated only my degree certificate. You do not need to evaluate law school Certificate.I don't have an LLM. my CRS score was 407 so I had to apply through Ontario. I received NOI in April, applied may 20th and got nominated June 26th with 600points which boosted my score to 1007. I don't have reference letter (which is a very important document in the express entry process) because the company I worked for was shut down. so in place of reference letter, I provided a letter (in form of a reference letter) written(typed actually) by me and notarized by a notary public stating everything that is required to be written in a reference letter. regarding the format of the letter, I started the letter in the form of an affidavit (I, Dolly Parton, hereby declare that...) and not like a proper formal letter with addresses. Also, I attached all my contract/employment letters which had my salary,job roles and position stated, income tax certificate,6 pay stubs and my first and last bank statements showing salary deposits . Before applying for OINP(ontario Immigration nominee program) please ensure that you request your duplicate ECA to be sent to OINP from whatever evaluation company you used. This will reduce any delay in processing your application. The process of requesting for duplicate ECA from IQAS got irritating cos they requested I send hard copies of my request form which cost me more because I used EMS express whom also did not deliver my documents on time(supposed to be 5 days but took up to 2-3weeks). I was fortunate to get a reply from a better informed IQAS representative before EMS was able to deliver my duplicate request form to IQAS, that advised that I could send the requested application copies by fax which was received immediately .why I said "better informed " is because prior to sending my documents through EMS, another representative had responded to my enquiry that IQAS doesn't receive faxed documents .About the fax, I used a free fax service I found online gotfreefax.com. I was able to fax the documents for free to IQAS .There are other online fax services you can use to send fax. All you have to do is scan your documents and send it through their fax link and it gets delivered to the fax machine. There are usually instructions on the websites/apps about how to get it done. (I love how much the internet has made life easier) . Lateness in requesting your duplicate to be sent to OINP can delay your application. Recently, some applications have been processed within a week. I got ITA after the nomination last week .I think I have said all that needs to be said. More information on OINP human capital stream can be found on http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/threads/oinp-ee-human-capital-priorities-stream-comprehensive-guide.396543/page-315

After receiving nomination, OINP Will deliver the nomination certificate to you through express mail. mine arrived after 7 days of nomination . When filling my ITA online, I noticed there was no place for uploading the nomination certificate but had read somewhere that CIC usually requests for it. so what I did (which I read somewhere that others also do) was to upload the nomination certificate together with the LOE .my LOE also explained the reason why I don't have a reference letter and that my POF (treasury bill) is from my husband because the treasury bill statements are in his name. He also wrote a letter stating that he's giving me access to the funds which we uploaded to the POF section.

OINP is definitely expensive and cumbersome to apply for because they request for more documents than CIC did ,but it can be done. Yes, I did it on my own without an agent .I understand that this application process can seem too much for some to manage themselves but I believe with patience and research, it can be done. Hope my post helps someone. Once again ,I appreciate the people who contribute to this thread. God bless you abundantly.