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ShowYourCertificate:
Biggest joke of the century. Now I'm convinced that our APC folks like Obiagelli and her ilks are clueless

johnydon22:
Hahahahahahahaha... Go through our discussion and see who really is stalemated and have lost every ounce of argument left...

You asserted a conscious and unconscious origin, i asked you to define what you mean by that, and you cant even do that? ...lmao . . why am i even still wasting my time with this guy.. I have already rubbished your op with my first posts, now you resort to straw man for defence.. If you cant face the topic and not refer to me then am done... Go leak ur wounds boy... Remember to call me next time you need more

ifeness:
We are all energy that cannot be created nor destroyed. We change form from one state to another. Science has proven that we are made up of the same particles found on other planet. Name them: Zink,Iron,Potassium,hydrogen etc As you can see we all are consciousness after all.

Misogynist2014,we have killed you on this topic. Give up.

ifeness:
Do you know how many possible planets are out there? Some solar system don't even survive. New worlds are created every time. Some survive and some don't. It is all chance. Before us dinosaurs roamed on this planet and after us other creatures will roam on it.

Who created the Volcanic mountains. They were all created through-interactive energy.

ifeness:
You and I,the trees,mountains,stars and billions of galaxies are the God you are talking about. That is why you can say God is in you. which also means you are made up of energy.

ifeness:
Science is the future not the christian God. Follow science and you will know better.

johnydon22:
Elaborate more on your idea of conscious origin, let us have a full grasp of what you are implying by conscious or unconscious origin ... Once and for all

johnydon22:
What do you mean by conscious origin?

johnydon22:
Lmao...You are still making an assertion without proof meaning it remains a claim and not a possibility.. Until you are able to substantiate this claim then their will be something to disprove.. For now their isnt

ifeness:
We are the consciousness not God. We exist,not God. Some of us created God to feel lazy.

ifeness:
I am not the one claiming there is a god. If I were,I would be required to give evidence.

Do you have a car?

johnydon22:
I asked you that question to show you how absurd your question is... I asked you to prove a flying pink unicorn exists because i know you cant, and this is because it not proven so their is nothing to disprove, its just i claim i made and it is on me to first prove it before it can be studied and refuted.

Same goes to you asking him to prove to you a god dont exist, when you havent proved it yet, it remains a claim until you prove it...

irunoobo:


Who cares

ifeness:
Why should I prove something that doesnt exist doesn't exist. There is no god anywhere,that is enough evidence. If there is a god it will be obvious to everyone. Does the dream world exist? Yes it does because we all dream. I have evidence of that.

johnydon22:
Now prove to me that a pink flying unicorn in space who created the universe doesnt exist...

ifeness:
What ever it is,it is certainly not the Christian God.

macof:
hmm true Literally it means "to force" "to compel" to make necessary
ultimately consciousness is not free will but a force, a compulsion Infact to exist within our being
Just like you didn't choose to be born but you had to based on necessity

Take it as a decree by nature
Consciousness of the universe is what makes us what we are, what we see ourselves, what we see our environment and what we would become, only time reviles
It is the consciousness of the universe that makes what will be - be
Destiny, fate

Similar to Yoruba concept of Ori

I don't know if you are familiar with Greek mythology but the fates(daughters of Ananke) are said to choose what everything was, is and would become

ifeness:
How can I prove something that doesn't exist does exist?

ifeness:
No you give me a proof.

theAtheist101:
How can energy come from time? They are two different fundamental quantities.



The infinite nature of God made Him boundless and limitless in wisdom and knowledge



Who committed the sin? Do you know that things that exist before the man also have life span? So who committed the sin on their behalf?



Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all......Romans 5:12


If nothing is the least level achievable, how did he spring up with so much energy to create our universe?



Because anything infinite is limitless.



How does your question of numbers answer my questioning of his everlasting nature? Something everlasting shouldn't have a beginning.


Its beginning is at infinity.

macof:
@ Misogynist2014

Your ideas are similar to Greek spirituality
the greeks observed that Time and consciousness (Chronos and Ananke) are infinite - probably the only things without a beginning

macof:
@ Misogynist2014

Your ideas are similar to Greek spirituality
the greeks observed that Time and consciousness (Chronos and Ananke) are infinite - probably the only things without a beginning

Weah96:
The Schrödinger Cat experiment should help you out. You cannot say that Time would be nonexistent because, without consciousness, that very observation cannot be made. It is a paradox. The correct assessment would be to accept all possible scenarios until something/one (consciousness) can make the observation.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/08/130812-physics-schrodinger-erwin-google-doodle-cat-paradox-science/

ifeness:
Wait!! Your God did not create the world so please don't go there.

Justfollowit:
Interesting analysis

theAtheist101:
Where did god come from? Who gave god the power to create the universe?

Hiswordxray:
Time exist in God and God is beyond time, for He created time.

All through the Scriptures we see God talking about future events as if they had already happened. This is because both the past and the future is God's present.

God place time upon His table and He manipulates the past, present and future for His eternal purpose. God's eternal purpose is His ultimate obsession and He would do any for it.

ifeness:
Humans are winning cant you see? Did your God create the internet,computers,rail roads,cars,electricity? Humans made them and we have evidence. If that is what you call foolishness that would be an act of ingratitude to those humans who had sleepless nights making life easier for you and I. What did your god create again?