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Hiswordxray:
My brother it seems you are a little confused. These verses will help:
"9 who has saved us and called us with a holy calling, not according to our works, but according to His own purpose and grace which was given to us in Christ Jesus before time began," (2Tim 1:9)

"2 in hope of eternal life which God, who cannot lie, promised before time began," (Tit 1:2)

ifeness:
TheAtheist101 gave a very good point. If your God were everlasting,what was the beginning about in the bible? I did not say God has no beginning, but his beginning is at eternity It looks like you are confusing God with existence. Can there be God without Him existing? Let's be honest,your God is limited. Awareness/Consciousness/Energy is different from Yahweh. Like I said, we shouldn't discuss 'whose God'. What limit can an eternal being have in awareness, consciousness, wisdom and energy?

johnydon22:
but am not a theist ...i already done my bit as an atheist..

But if i were a theist, still it will fall down to assumptions and conceiving my own ideas...

johnydon22:
@bolded, this same you asserted time existed before god... You dont really know what is it you think it is...

And now you have employed another assumptions to throw a weight on ur concept which exactly why atheist think god concpets are mere human assumptions

johnydon22:
That is it exactly, Your belief doesnt make things true... your belief doesnt even make it probably true... belief has no weight at all on reality..

I may be have belief that God (zeus ) created the world, this still doesnt make it true..

theAtheist101:
First, you make it look as if time is absolute, which is not. The time we conceive is relative We both agree here
, that is, its origin is with an event. That is the why we have so many calenders.

If god came into existence at a zero state of time, what was in existence at a negative state of time -- the before-god time? Like I said, I am only here to show God is concievable, therefore, differences apart, we all know for God to exist, there must be nothing before Him, except time in its zero state, so no point
If nothing, then why nothing? Because it is the least level attainable
Where did god get the energy to spring into consciousness, and energy to create the/our universe? He got His energy when time sprang into existence, without consciousness, time can't exist You Bible verse claims he is everlasting, yet his creation is not, why? Sin

The main fault I notice in your argument is that anything everlasting shouldn't have a begin -- just like infinity. Where did numbers begin?

ifeness:
Firstly there is no God. Therefore,the Jewish scripture wasn't inspired by a God.

Habakkuk just like the prophets before and after him was inspired by lack of understanding. Yes he claimed his God was everlasting but offered no evidence whatsoever to back it up. Just like I could easily say Obatala is everlasting and you will require me to back up my statement with evidence. So Mr Misogynist2014, please provide us with a concrete evidence to back your claims. It is too easy to quote from an ancient book.

I have said time without number. A male requires a female. Can we have a head without a tail? Your continuous use of "Him" for your God is not credible. I personally would be drawn to a Goddess rather than a God. Reasons because it is the natural nature of a female to nurture and protect. Attributes absent from your male God.

Your claim about Yahweh( I will stoop low to his level since he is not a God) being an infinity being is laughable. Where is he now. How did he go from creating the world,walking in the garden,partaking in so many war( most of which he lost) sacrificing his only son and disappearing ages ago. Can you prove this God is still alive? ( please with evidence)

The universe is an evidence God doesn't exist. scientists are trying to improve our ways of lives by coming up with numerous inventions. they believe life could be made easier. If men could reason that way,how much more an advance God. Could it be that God is willing but cant?

johnydon22:
Time existed in a state of nothingness, Nothingness is What? lmao... Your assertion is Time was in existence before ur god..
If you were not born, you wouldnt be in existence, still doesnt mean time doesnt exist

Conscious to you is perception... Meaning god came into existence from nothing and saw a reality which is time just like me

johnydon22:
Time existed in a state of nothingness, Nothingness is What? lmao... Your assertion is Time was in existence before ur god..
If you were not born, you wouldnt be in existence, still doesnt mean time doesnt exist

Conscious to you is perception... Meaning god came into existence from nothing and saw a reality which is time just like me

johnydon22:
Time was before god, now you have corrected your assertion, its no longer he created time..According to u now god has a source which is time..

@enlarged.. He sprang into existence all of a sudden from nothing? oH i remember he sprang into existence from time which means time created god..
My mother was already conscious and time was in existence before i was born... Or following this logic then they must be some conscious beings that predates god which brought it into existence just like mother brought me into existence...
@bolded it means i came from my mother ..

This your argument is just shooting yourself in the head, and going against your religious dogmas .

Their is nothing like true god, as you said all are concepts..

theAtheist101:
First bullet: try to explain his form from a bible verse also, so as to make it complete.

Am coming back to touch this thread.

johnydon22:
We will take it one after the other...

Now it is clear which god you are trying to show us **the bible god** Now quoting some bible verses to assert the bible god exists is like quoting the spider man comic book to asset spider man exists.... doesnt work that way..
You just shot urself in the head... he came from time which means time existed before it... You can only come from what is before you.



lmao the same god you just said came from time ...hahahaha
He started time, at the same time came from time...This is real logic i can see...lol
You just quoted he came from time, now you are asserting time is none existent without consciousness....Mehn am marveled at this feeble logic attempt.
You just said it came from time, meaning time is it's source..
Another fail..
YEAH JUST LIKE A FLYING UNICORN IS NOT PROVABLE BUT CONCEIVABLE **this means and proves atheists stance that god(s) are conceived ideas**... No wonder humans have conscieved up to 5,000 God concepts..
The universe? Lol.. we have heard that before..Allah claims that too, even brahma and krishna..

This post is a mockery of reason and logic ... a crucifix that plain reason is killed... So everything you wrote up there makes sense to you?
Oh this is just wonderful

sugarboii:
Source:
http://www.timeslive.co.za/local/2015/04/19/the-brutal-death-of-emmanuel-sithole1

wordcat:
So what or who is Christ?

A word or A Being

spott:
You remember this man who was caught with stolen PVCs, INEC has issued him certificate of return. This is very bad.

wordcat:
So Christ is just a word and not a son in the real sense.

johnydon22:
I just wanted to see people's opinion, saw the shìt on tv..

johnydon22:
Many of us here have been in not less than 2 relationships and as we have lived to see, there are many good and bad turns in every relationship.

If you are given a chance now would you go back to your ex and what are your reasons for doing so?

For me I wont cus i am seriously in love with the one am dating now and she literally adores me...

What about you?

johnydon22:
lmao finger kwa

na bleep, party and booze!!!

actually i dont believe the devil mythological crap

phrenoz:
Na so...Nairaland ppl and wedding

johnydon22:
hehehehehehehehehehe You wanna join us?

johnydon22:
Heaven will be filled with Virgin girls on white robes, people wearing long white robes with palm fronds singing hosanna, Rev sisters and brothers in the lord. Milk and honey. . .

but

Hell will be filled with clubers, partyers, most of the world hip pop stars, all the hoes and busty chicks wearing only bikinis, some even stark unclad... Alcohol, booze and weed. . .
hehehehehehe.

fvck heaven, am off to hell

Confirmer:
And you think Islam supports the killing of muslims as well? The hatred you christian breeds inside of you is alarming.