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dougivilla: You can do better than this bros!

Goshen360: Sharrap there. Which law is it? of Moses? or of Christ? or of Spirit? or of Love? which law is it that still exist? Read my last post from Galatians 5:22-23.

dougivilla: Very soon, you'll run away for good! Thought you were done with this thread?

Goshen360: You're defining SIN by the writings of the law of Moses. That's your problem. When the law is nullified, you cannot defined sin by the law of Moses because it is null and void. LOVE and FRUIT of the Spirit is what Christians follows to DEFINE what SIN is or NOT. Listen to this,

Amplified Bible (AMP)
22 But the fruit of the [Holy] Spirit [the work which His presence within accomplishes] is love, joy (gladness), peace, patience (an even temper, forbearance), kindness, goodness (benevolence), faithfulness,

23 Gentleness (meekness, humility), self-control (self-restraint, continence). Against such things there is no law [[a]that can bring a charge].

Expanded Bible (EXB)
22 But the ·Spirit produces the fruit of [L fruit of the Spirit is] love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, ·faithfulness [or faith], 23 gentleness, self-control. ·There is no law that says these things are wrong [or No law can oppose such things].

Galatians 5:22-23

Can you read that?........there is no law [[a]that can bring a charge].

shdemidemi: Paul said "follow me just as I follow Christ"
Jesus trusted Paul with the gospel according to scriptures

11 according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God which was committed to my trust.

shdemidemi: He lived the way of the Jew because he was Jew by flesh thus under the law. he was limited to what He could do, so He had to go for the Holy Spirit to come. Apostle Paul was the tool used by Christ to deliver the words of the spirit for our guidance and edification.

shdemidemi: He lived the way of the Jew because he was Jew by flesh thus under the law. he was limited to what He could do, so He had to go for the Holy Spirit to come. Apostle Paul was the tool used by Christ to deliver the words of the spirit for our guidance and edification.

obadiah777: i see you are back. TODAY I HAVE TIME FOR YALL. LEMME EAT FIRST. I AM FAMISHED. SUP SUP MOSTHIGH SUP GOSHEN THE REPROBATE AZZ NAKKAZ

shdemidemi: Therefore, what is right in 1 dispensation could be wrong in another. If you read the Bible as just 1 whole book , you give room for contradictions. That does not mean you shouldnt know the other books in other dispensations but the one paramount to christians is not even what Jesus said while he ws woth us but what was said after he left through Paul.
Rightly divide the word.

shdemidemi: Like I posted earlier , there are different dispensations in the scriptures, you would have a better understanding if you are guided by them
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I think I should add this little exposition about how God deals with man through dispensations. The only rule to this is not to inject any dispensation into another.
1) innocence with Adam and Eve
2) conscience. Cane and Abel
3)Human govt. Noah
4)promise. Abraham
5)law. Moses/Jesus falls under this dispensation too
6)grace. Paul only (Christians)
7)tribulation. Hebrew 1st and 2nd Peter Jude John revelation

Like I said I humbly request for a commentry on verse 19 please.

Then we can move on.

shdemidemi: The law was fulfilled at the cross..sin came through Adam, sin was revealed by the law and the law was fulfilled by Christ.

“Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill.

obadiah777: HEY BROTHER MOSTHIGH. SHALOM BROS

0keyxyz: Jesus has already fulfilled and abolished the law through his death. Therefore we don't owe the law anything, as it is no longer valid to a christian. Grace was not given to help us keep the laws. Grace is precisely the fact that we are no longer under this law, We no longer define right and wrong based on the law, let alone trying to keep it. Therefore, we CANNOT sin by disregarding the law, rather we make ourselves sinners when we disregard grace and go back to define morality based on the law, because the power of sin is the law(1 Corinthians 15:56 ).

shdemidemi: Christ will come for the church first. The church will not be present to face tribulation but the Jews would, that's when people would be saved by their works. The book of revelation gives us a clue on what will happen at these times, people will get the mark of the beast n all.
The book of revelation can't be fully understood by us cos they are events after the church is gone.

Divide the word of truth.

shdemidemi: Christ will come for the church first. The church will not be present to face tribulation but the Jews would, that's when people would be saved by their works. The book of revelation gives us a clue on what will happen at these times, people will get the mark of the beast n all.
The book of revelation can't be fully understood by us cos they are events after the church is gone.

Divide the word of truth.

0keyxyz: Jesus has already fulfilled and abolished the law through his death. Therefore we don't owe the law anything, as it is no longer valid to a christian. Grace was not given to help us keep the laws. Grace is precisely the fact that we are no longer under this law, We no longer define right and wrong based on the law, let alone trying to keep it. Therefore, we CANNOT sin by disregarding the law, rather we make ourselves sinners when we disregard grace and go back to define morality based on the law, because the power of sin is the law(1 Corinthians 15:56 ).

dougivilla: Introducing money-hungry, demon number 3. Welcome! Hope the others gave you adequate updates?

Nobody is forcing you to accept Jesus dude! Its optional. You either accept Him and be saved or reject Him to your everlasting damnation!

dougivilla: Thanks, but i'll stick only with Bible truths, especially when dealing with people like you that look for as much as a wrongly used word to hold unto to score undeserved points. so you will do well to biblically explain how Jesus is not in the bible!

dougivilla: Tell me any good reason why I should leave the bible you have been anchoring all your arguments on to go and study history. If i must rightly divide the word of truth, what i need to study is the bible, not any history. Try something else dude!!

obadiah777: YOU ARE SPLITTING HAIRS. THE POINT HERE IS YOU WERE WRONG WHEN YOU SAID ALL YOUR WORRIES DISAPPEAR IF YOU COME TO CHRIST. THATS A LIE. WHEN YOU COME TO CHRIST YOUR TROUBLES INCREASE BECAUSE HE REFINES YOU IN THE FURNACE OF AFFLICTION. YOU ARE ABOUT TO INHERIT THE WORLD SO HE WOULD MAKE YOU EARN IT. YOU WILL BE REFINED THOROUGHLY IN AFFLICTION. AFFLICTION IS MISERY. NO NEED DENYING THAT, BUT IT MAKES YOU STRONGER

dougivilla: Its Jesus Christ, the son of God I mentioned no cutting or pasting, u can't hoodwink me!

Anyways if with the kind of fruits you've been exhibiting, you said you've accepted Jesus Christ as lord and saviour, and want me to believe you, why should I not believe papa or anyone else for that matter that says same?

obadiah777: COMING INTO CHRIST DOES NOT REMOVE THE MISERIES IN YOUR LIFE. IN FACT IT INTENSIFIES IT. SEE ITS LIKE THIS. PAY NOW OR PAY LATER. IF CHRIST ACCEPTS YOU AS HIS, YOU WILL PAY NOW. IF CHRIST REJECTS YOU ? YOU WILL PAY LATER. EITHER WAY YOU WILL PAY. THOSE IN CHRIST ARE NOT MISERY FREE. NOW I CAN TELL YOU ARE FULL OF DEMONS LOL
HEBREWS 12 VS 6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
REVELATION 3 VS 19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten

Goshen360: @ obadiah777,

You & your Judaizer video clips. Christians are not part of you! Should I quote one law of Moses for you so that you see you cannot keep it?

dougivilla: Truth is constant and easier to tell.

I don't need to go look for a dictionary and gather abusive vocabs to make u understand that all you need to remove the miseries in your life is Jesus Christ the son of the living God not some demonic nomenclature you parade trying to hoodwink the gullible!

shdemidemi: The lawless man is the son of perdition,the one who will sit in the church like He is God. He will be revealed and be destroyed by Christ , He is not a Christian that is not observing the law of Moses like you thought. going 1 step further, He is the POPE.

shdemidemi: John wrote to the scattered tribes of Isreal and not to christians. Only apostle Paul has the epistle to the church

11 according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God which was committed to my trust.

Follow me, just as I follow Christ

Rightly divide the word of truth

obadiah777: HEY CHIEF. TRUST ALL IS WELL.
1-THERE ARE BILLIONS OF DEMONS WALKING AROUND SEEKING WHOM TO DEVOUR. YOU ARE PROTECTED FROM THEM
2-YOU WILL BE PROTECTED FROM THE TRIBULATION PERIOD WHICH WE ARE ENTERING NOW
3-YOU WILL NOT END UP GETTING ROASTED IN NUKES LAKE OF FIRE
4-AND TO TOP IT OFF, YOU GET TO END UP IN HEAVEN ON EARTH AND HANG OUT WITH ISAIAH JEREMIAH EZEKIEL MOSES SOLOMON ETC ETC
5-THE PROMISES IN HEAVEN

Goshen360: @ MostHigh,

We have discussed this issue in the past. I really do not want people to often MIS-understand me. When I say law, I mean the TORAH, law of Moses. Off course, we are not under the guidance of the law of Moses but under the law of Christ & of the Spirit of Life that now works by the power of the Holy Spirit. If it is the law of Moses, absolutely, none of us can keep all the law of Moses as it wasn't written to us in the first place. The law of Christ is LOVE and that LOVE fulfills the whole law of Moses. Simple put, maintain LOVE and you don't have to bother about the 613 laws of Moses because we are dead to the law (of Moses) but alive to the law of Christ.