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fluid26: Matthew 16:18

''And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.''

The Pope is the Vicar of Christ. And in that context, he is deemed infallible...even in the face of glaring errors. Leave church leadership for it's appointed leaders. Don't align yourself with those who make attempt at ridiculing the church, lest you declare yourself an enemy of Christ.

chukwudi44: What kind of action do you want to be taken against the church? What has happened to other institutions whoose members were found in such scandals?who is to be held responsible for similar crimes committed by protestant,muslim or even atheists

truthislight: ^^

Jesus christ and the apostles are slaves/followers of the pope.

"A slave is not greater than his master"

those you mention are his slaves.

chukwudi44: Sorry I thought I was talking to someone with some grey matter in his cranium.I didn't realise all you had there was just vegetable salad.

Ubenedictus: hahaha, a coverup that doesnt exist.
And ur number 2 is interesting, when an american child steal meat obama is indirectly responsible.
Just interesting

Lovethywilbedon: Just Look at this one, delibrately interpreting a simple statement out of contest. So you don't understand what I mean by "he is protected on every side". He is protected (by his INNOCENSE on every side) from your Baseless, Demonic, Wicked Plans to discredit the Vicar of Christ. Exactly as GEJ is proteted on every side by his innocence, if people like you will come up tomorrow to accuse him of being responsible for every pencil stolen in every classroom of the thousands of primary school in Naigeria. REASON: [1]He is not the little theif. [2]He is not the parent who is surposed to provide the needs of the pupil [3]He is not the form master who's work it is to punish and discourage theft. [4]He is not the Headmaster, who admitted the pupil. Guess what you people are doing, you left all the 4 persons who are directly or indirectly responsible, in addition you jumped the PTA Chairman, the Chairman of the State Education Commission ie State Education Commissioner and the Education Minister (all innocent people), to blaim The President GEJ who this theft cannot be linked to. It is obvious that you are delibrately linking this to the Pope since the Catholic Church has a similar HIERARCHY. As for appologies, so you want to tell me that you can't render an appology, unbehalf of your friend who commited a Crime? By doing that, are responsible for his Crime?

chukwudi44: While the late pope johnpaul ii had apologised for atrocities committed by catholics over the ages.No one has come forward to apologise for atrocities committed by protestants,muslims or even atheists.Abi is this confession restricted to the catholic church alone?

chukwudi44: I am not fighting on behalf of the pope.It is only fair that one shpuld be held liable for his own actions and not for someone else's.The fact remains that the pope has not even been suponeated by any court for any crime hence all such write ups are just the handworks of detractors.

There merely targeting the pope because he is the head of the catholic church and as such would want to bring the church to ridicule through him.If benedict has remained cardinal ratzinger I can assure you that you would not even hear anybody mentioning his name in all this cases.The target of this detractors is the church and not Benedict.

chukwudi44: Talking about unreported cases how many unreported cases do you know happening in other institutions.The catholic church is only targeted because of its size and thus it is always big news whenever the catholic church is involved.

I have suggested victims should report their case directly to the police yet you also frown @ it.I wonder what more you expect from the catholic church?

Logicboy03: Ignorance is a disease. Atheism is unnatural? Did you know God when you were 3 year old? Were you born with a belief in God or were you indoctrinated into christianity/islam?


Your christians/islamic God doesnt exist and will never exist. How do you explain the fact that your God claims to be just but creates a hell for unbelievers? I hope you know that your ancestors were pagans. Your Great grandfathers were pagans. They are in hell just because they didnt know the right religion? While the christian slavemasters from Europe who might have repented for shackling and maltreating our pagan ancestors are in heaven?


lol......tell me why I should believe in such a God? He knows my future and yet he is angry that my atheistic future came to pass. Olodo God.


YOU SAY YOU EVOLVED FROM A MONKEY NO PROBLEM THERE, DONT JUST BUNDLE ALL OF US TOGETHER.

WE SAY WE ARE A SPECIAL CREATION.

TIME WILL TELL.


PEACE LOVE AND JOY!!!

codeaddict: I want to assume the reason why Logicboy keeps his beliefs secret is because of the way Nigerians living in Nigeria react to atheists. We're treated with disdain and disrespect at the slight mention of a doubt in the existence of an Almighty. I had to just stop telling people about my beliefs, cos it's considered radical and heretic here in Nigeria.

moredendisc: https://gdh.totallycostumes.com/images/SMI-20375M.jpg

Pharaohs and Roman soldiers as in above photo wore kilt before the Scots

Goshen360: In Christ, there's no Jew or Gentiles. When national Israel believes in Christ, she shall be saved and become part of the church, the body of Christ. Christ is not coming for the national Israel but for the glorious church. If Israel is saved, then she shall be part of the glorious church Christ is coming for.

St.Ola:
I see no correlation in your response. Must be the hot African sun, please use panadol for your headache!

rouleaux: U al av completely forgotn d scripture u mentioned is of another dispensation. B careful d way u interprete d scriptures.

Goshen360: God bless you brother. I'm seriously sick and tired of religious spirits among so called Christians. God bless you bro.

Goshen360: Will you mind to show us scripture WHERE THE LAW OF MOSES WAS WRITTEN TO THE CHURCH PLEASE Thank you.

Goshen360: @ Snowwy and mosthigh,

Question for you both - The law of Moses,was it written to NATIONAL ISRAEL or the CHURCH or BOTH

Answer and we proceed. Thanks

dekung: You really fascinate me, you tactfully evaded my questions only to rant about natural intelligence. Why not address my point and move on from there rather than keep shouting about spirituality and native or is it natural intelligence. You white and grey matter embedded in your skull why not try and use them first before coming to apply spirituality.

Snowwy: @OP,
I think it is all about being a transvestite as someone here mentioned.

If not, apart from trousers (there are male and female trousers), what about suit jacket, T-shirt, Trainers, which are originally worn by men of which we have womens designs? There are mens wear and womens wear.

Concerning the law, Eph.2:14-18 shows the only law that was abolished was the law of commandment contained in ordinances. Except one studies this extensively with the help of the Holy Spirit, there will always be the erroneously belief that Christ abolished the law which is simply heretic. Afterall, the righteousness of the law can only be fulfilled in Christ.

Joagbaje: Your question concerning the passage has been answered. Why making other issues out of it. If you have issues with decency of dressing bring it on but on different platform. The passage has been explained it has no reference to trouser. Jesus didn't wear trouser.

JOAGBAJE THINK ABOUT IT THE GUY HAS A POINT.

THERE HAS TO BE A CONSENSUS AS TO THE GENERALLY ACCEPTED CLOTHING FOR BOTH SEXES IN OUR OWN TIME.

PEACE LOVE AND JOY!!

dekung: Am pretty sure you know how to read, and I believe in my opening I expressly declared I am an atheist. Thank for the compliment however I would like to ask you:

What kind of cloth are you wearing? Am sure more than one type of fabric were woven together to make at least one of the collections in your wardrobe, by doing that you have violated the eleventh verse of Deut 22 (Thou shalt not wear a garment of divers sorts, as of woollen and linen together)Are you married and do you have kids? Has any of your kids ever disobeyed you, why haven't you taken him/her out and stoned to death? You guys just cherry pick instructions and start dancing around it and my guess is that this one bothers you because it threatens your masculinity and also it makes your "ding dong" stand when you see those pretty girls dress attractively in their tight fitting jeans.

Goshen360: Why don't you people ALSO follow the rest of the context in Deuteronomy 22 Why do you pick out only verse 5 Christians ARE NOT JEWS! Those were written to the Jews - follow or obey ALL or NONE!

christemmbassey: bro Goshen these ppl are like tith preachers, the are the naija pre-grace jews who practice jewdaism in christianity, they are the reasons why many are leaving christianity to atheism. They love the sense of captivity, imprisonment and bondage.

moredendisc: @Daniel058

DEUTERONOMY 22:5 is not about lewdness or lascivious acts like you are carrying on over about

You need other scriptures or verses to highlight the grievances on the obscene dressing or indecent exposures

If the prevailing times and period was studied, when the command in DEUTERONOMY 22:5 was issued,

it would have become obvious that the command was about and/or against manful, manly, manlike, manliness (i.e. women having the characteristics of an adult male)

and vice versa (i.e. men having or showing characteristics regarded as typical of a woman; unmanly)

Please dispel the misconception because it really is not about the dresses per se

but rather it is ABOUT cross-gender behavior (e.g. living in the social role of the opposite sex by adopting the clothing, hair styling, gestures, speech patterns, general personality etc etc)

That is what God finds yucky, repulsive, distasteful or disgusting

# SMH. Christendom will continually have it's work cut out if we don't study to show our self approved unto God, a workman that needs not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth

dekung: Even though I am an atheist but I can help but contribute on this topic as it was one of the things debated when I was still a christian. Goshen, I really enjoyed your contribution and you are one of those few who have made any sense as regards this matter. Now to the OP and his supporters did God, in the text you quoted, specify which cloths were masculine and which one were feminine? Do you know that the cloths worn by either gender is largely dictated the culture. Do you know that Scottish men have a traditional wrapper/skirts-like clothing called kilt? Would you advise a lady who is an engineer on a construction site to wear skirts, gown or "iro" to work? How convenient will that be? Nobody and I repeat, nobody said trousers are strictly for men. Even in today's fashion, you can easily differentiate trousers meant for men and those meant for women, in fact the orientation of the the buttons are different so what are you haggling about? You and your other supporters claim some ladies wear cloth trousers that reveal the shape of their virgina , guy get your mind out of the gutter. The truth is that whatever they wore that revealed their privacy is still classified as women's clothing. Even if these clothings reveal their shapes, they are still women's clothing you are the one that should get his mind out of the gutter. I agree that some ladies dress provocatively but be sure that these women will still dress that same way if they wore gowns but the truth is these tight fitting pants can be worn decently with long t-shirts that will cover important areas of their bodies.

Goshen quoted the whole text for you to ponder on, how come you pretended as if other instructions were not there, you ignored other laws and you are debating on this one? For example there is a part of the law (am not sure it is part of this one) where God said if your child disobeys you, you should take him outside and stone him to death. Why are you not advocating that kind of draconian law? Why is it that it is only the one of women wearing man's clothing that bothers you, does it threaten you masculinity? Are you turned on when those ones in virgina-revealing tight approach you or walk past you? .

Goshen360: ^
Because trouser covers n.akedness more than skirt. Does that scripture mention trouser? Even if you're reading it to mean trouser and skirts, doesn't women have female trouser? Besides, isn't that written to the Jews? The New Testament ONLY supports moderations and doesn't tell women what to wear or what not to wear. I do NOT by any means teach that a woman should dress n.aked but that scripture was between God and the Jews. If you're gonna obey that scripture, you'll need to read the WHOLE passage and follow other laws in the same passage. Besides, which is better - To wear trouser to church or not wear to church BUT wear outside the church during the week?

Do you want me to quote the whole passage for you?