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TheGoodJoe:
What do you want me to accept?

Arsenal were the poorer side. It is a fact for anyone who watched the game. It was not some tactical show piece. Park bus is not tactics. It is strategy. Sit deep and hoof the ball hoping for favor. It is fun when a poor side wins a better side but when it capitulates, it is embarrassing.

Arteta did not tactically play better. Arsenal did not play better in any way. So how are you guys making it that he outclassed Pep when he was totally outplayed.

Just like when we lost to Tottenham. We totally outclasssd them but theh won fortunately. Not tactical masterpiece.

Park bus is strictly based on luck. Hoping the opponents slip. Not tactical masterpiece when he was totally outplayed.

Park bus is not always based on luck bro. A sensible warrior will always knows when to attack and when to retreat and that is where Arteta got it right. Man city was clearly the superior side and it made perfect sense for arsenal to be cautious. And arsenal didn't 'just hoof the ball and hope for favour' , they perfectly build up and the two goals were clear evidence.

TheGoodJoe:
It is just a game. If City got an early goal, no way Arsenal would have come back from it. They were clearly outplayed. Even when they scored, the commentator said it was against the run of play.

I did not say Pep is ultimate. I am saying park bus is not a long term strategy. It is a coach accepting the other side and coach is far better and you will adopt the strategy andhope to win.

Congrats to them for their win. You guys are trying to make a park bus win like a tactical masterpiece, which it is not. The game is over and I was pointing out what i hope to see from now.

I did not downgrade anything. I just stated the fact.

Maybe...just maybe if city had tried to pack the bus too, the two goals might have been prevented and city might have won.

daveP:
Lol. Ya talking asif its only Pep's method that is the acceptable approach to the round leather game and thats too funny.

Counterattacks are part of the game. So is park the bus, ghenghen pressing, tiktaktoe, etc.

Anything you'd say to make Arteta look like an amateur. And that is too low actually. Very low. Isnt it so disgraceful that Tactic Arteta worked and Tactic Pep didn't.


Its almost similar to the downgrading given Giroud at the WC cos he never scored, but he played his own pivotal role and got Gold when others tearing up nets are not gonna see that trophy even in Qatar.

No sensible Manager, Lampard inclusive(pun intended), won't know that City's defence line are very very unreliable against fast legs. Its a fact, especially in the EPL alone.


You talking asif you didn't notice the fluidity of passes before the 1st goal. It wasnt merely hit and run. Infact Auba and Pepe were heavy in their legs.


Philosophy? Hmmmm. Tonighy at Wembley, Another Philosophy trumped the "ultimate"!!!

Sha no do one thing pls... Dont downgrade the play Arsenal and Arteta did tonight.

gbayi .. I dey feel you my brother.
Did arsenal even counter? I think the plan was to massively defend after losing the ball then a patient build up after winning the ball back. The first goal I think, was the perfect example.

StubbornGENIUS:
And Geology...

lol

TheGoodJoe:
How did he outclass Pep?

Look at the stats below. Arteta was totally outplayed. It was just a case of park bus and win. Even Southampton gave us a far better game. Bournemouth played far better than this. The changes did nothing to Arteta's strategy. While Rodri brought the ability to hold the ball high up the pitch. Foden brought penetration in tight areas.

Tactically, Pep was outclassed. You need to come to realization that man city tactic nowadays is like a one way traffic;it is difficult to pinpoint its loophole but once found out,it might be disastrous.Arteta knew it'll be foolish to go toe to toe against a superior man city so he set up his team to neutralize city's threats while the potency of the attacking third is sustained. And that was what brought up the stat you posted above. What became of city with all their possession and shots? Bro,accept it...Pep was outclassed. Even his sub couldn't reduce the deficit.

TheLoneCitizen:
Knew Arteta managerial career very promising with the way he reacted to David LUiz's howler against City. Many managers would have let Luiz go, but be handed a new contract. After Luiz signed, 4 other players were inspired and signed extensions. It was as if the coach was telling them, "Just like Luiz, even though you have a bad day, I'll stand by you."

John Terry once said the reason why Carlo Ancelotti is successful is because of excellent man-management.

"He adapted very quickly and when speaking to me, Frank [Lampard], Didier [Drogba], he wanted to pick our brains: 'is this too much tactics for the players to do? Are we doing too much of this?'
"As players naturally, when things go wrong, it's the manager, it's never our fault.
I've never had a manager in all my career that actually asks the players and gives them a bit of responsibility.."

Man-management comes first, then tactical nous.

spot on bro! . His managerial maturity is commendable.

Edopesin:
Whoever wins tomorrow between Chelsea and Man U will win the FA Cup

It's just physics

you forgot there is chemistry and biology also

TheGoodJoe:
He definitely learnt but in this game, Arteta accepted a tactical defeat and went for a strategic win. He also lacks the players to imprint his ideas. However, i feel Arteta is adulterated due to him playing too long in the EPL.

I am actually glad he left. I felt he was a poor influence on Guardiola. We became more fluid after his departure.

sorry bro...you are one of the best analyst here butbyou are totally wrong about this. What you posted up here is from a biased point of view.
Though arsenal was the underdog, Arteta clearly outclass his former master. His starting line up and even his substitutions clearly buttress the fact.

Funny fact...
since Chelsea starts wearing that #3 Jersey, they either score or concede three goals.
edopesin o... tell your people to change your jersey first.

lol

andrewbaba44:
The last time I checked arsenal is a bigger club than crystal palace

But now you are expecting someone to win pfa player of the year from crystal palace when an arsenal player will never smell it

Failure no good ,see wetin flopepe cause

ok

andrewbaba44:
Enjoy your best choice of pepe

He is even painting the epl red and white

Yea. .thanks man. And zaha is a strong contender for PFA player of the year.

andrewbaba44:
What can pepe offer ?

Oya pepe Dey paint the league with goals nah

Even saka will do better than pepe on the flanks

Stop speaking of younger or older ,person go think say zaha na 33 years

Didn’t Madrid see younger players before they paid for hazard ?

abeg no let us drag this thing...both players are kinda similar but my own preference is Pepe. So you dey compare pepe with zaha when the former never even conclude his first season in EPL?? I still insist Pepe was the best choice. At least Pepe sabi score goals.
About zaha's age , I admit I made an error. Dude is now 27years not 30 as I previously thought

andrewbaba44:
He is not

I sure say you be arsenal fan but you no wan talk true

Zaha is better than Pepe

Apart from EPL experience,there was nothing zaha could offer that pepe can't offer. No be say zaha dey paint the league with goals. Considering the age and transfer fee of both at that time,it make sense to go for the younger one.

andrewbaba44:
Yeye arsenal would have gotten Zaha

Pepe was the better option.

BlueRayDick:


I think ceballos was joyous because that thru pass was used judiciously by Saka and slotted home by Auba. If it was possible to record assist for two people I would say both Ceballos and Saka deserve to get the assist for that Auba's goal

exactly

BlueRayDick:
If a man's wife/gf believes in him like Lacazzette believes in Auba, trust me he no get problem

lolz. . I just love this dude. . So selfless. But you see that Ceballos eh, person wey no concentrate fit mistook him for the goalscorer.

why am i worried that iwobi might go mikel's way?. Dude is being made to sacrifice his attacking instincts for defensive duties.
But since i am not the coach,let me look at the bright side.
His new role might improve his stamina and defensive ability.

daveP:
Pick your front 3 from this....

Alexis. . Vanpersie. . . Auba

Naaaaccchhhooo. . .goooaaall

Norwich 1
Man.utd 2
Sheffield 1
Arsenal 2
Chelsea 1
Leicester Mmmm
Funny logic though, Leicester might just steal a win.

Edopesin:
lols true
depends on which team you're rooting for though

i am a barca fan but madrid should be far ahead by now. Don't be surprise if madrid fails to win tomorrow.

Edopesin:
andrewbaba na so una wan bottle la liga

it is the other way round bro. If Barca had later won this la liga, real madrid would be the bottlers.

do4luv14:
Yes, any yawa?

none

BlueRayDick:
Senior Man: Mesut "Agba Yahoo" Ozil

lolz. . Dude no send anybody.

do4luv14:
One down, one to go,

Edopesin how you see am

So ,you be chelsea fan?

junnyjake:
But Tega fits the bill for teams like Man Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal and the likes while Victor is only good for Newcastle eh? Well-done.

lolz bro. . I was about to ask him the same thing. I admit this thread can never be interesting if we all are on the same page that is why there must be room for antagonism. you see that komekn, *shakes head* it is no more antagonism but HATE.i just tire for him.

The board should do fast about saka. His contract renewal is the most important of all.

johnjunior39:
Mari and Soares I understand but please what kind of role model is luiz teaching, why is Xhaka not even considered for sale. We need to free up space on our wage mehn. We just gathered people that will not do anything for us. Xhaka cannot pass, you cannot do defensive too.

If partey is real, we have torreria too. Is enough, we should be look for creative midfielders now not all this people

Bro. .all the contracts kinda make sense except that of Luiz maybe. The upcoming transfer window look unpredictable too.

Fkhalifa:
Mikel Arteta says Arsenal WILL extend David Luiz, Pablo Mari, Dani Ceballos and Cedric Soares deals https://m.allfootballapp.com/news?id=2376711&type=share&language=en

Sod9, Arterta is probably telling us he will do wonders with this players come next season. He is also pleased to have Xhaka.

Happy times.

lolz. . Happy times indeed.

Schemerkhiz:
It high time Nigeria recall Big Striker Emueje Oghiabekhva

Our own Lukaku. She this girl fit run like this .

TheSuperNerd:
Lolllzzz... Abeg leave the Philosopher alone. I think that is him doing his part to drop a report on a player we may not have heard about. Free am abeg before I am accused of favoritism again for not reporting someone from Slovakia.

But we do have players there ooo. I follow the ones especially at Trencin.

Everyone is free to drop reports on any Nigerian player anywhere. More of this should be encouraged. You may never know where we find the next diamond in the rough.

ok .. ISSORIGHT

Even Arteta sef yaf tire for the club. The way he made the subs sef like person wey dey pack sardine put inside pot.