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Owliver:
thank you for answering him.

every religion has explained God in their own ways even science. there's always similarities among these explanations. but not a single conclusion.

as long as no one can prove it(probably never will) it will stay unknown. That unknown knowledge is what I call God(knowledge unknown)... how is that hard for that man to understand that simple definition of God lol

so every new knowledge keeps on eliminating god till he dies completely?

Deicide:

u no trust scientists?
They would have by now created a mega airconditioner there..lol

Efewestern:
Promise to go deep into that @bolded... There was a thread created sometime ago .. maybe last month that talks about evolution and someone asked seun for prove.. Lo and behold seun brought An image of A dog showing its former appearance & also its later appearance.. Did a research on that and later found out that the Appearance of the dog later stage was as a result of Cross breeding and not one Evolution crap as portrayed by Seun.

You might end up convincing yourself about the existence of God „ But believe me Atheist opinion doesn't count

is it proof of evolution u need or what?

JohnAdeDavid:
Jesus Christ said I haven't come to destroy the sinners but to bring them to repentance...It is the Grace of God that keeps the unbelievers alive from sickness nd diseases that they will glorify the name of the Father in heaven...#Shalom

how can an unbeliever glorify what he/she does not believe in?


Why do u not believe it is the grace of allah or vinshu that keeps u alive from sickness and diseases?
Because thats what muslims and hindus believe keeps u alive

Ranchhoddas:
An agnostic is undecided on deities, an atheist denies their existence. How are they the same and what has Buddhism got to do with anything?

i ask again...
Does an agnostic acknowledge any of the existing deities as the creator?

Buddhism...is to show u that even ''atheism'' can exist in religion..
M relating it to what im telling u about agnostics..
A gnostic atheist denies the possibility of the existence of a creator god..
Bt an agnostic is not 100%

JohnAdeDavid:
No...nd answer my question....don't change the topic

do miracles that happen to irrelegious persons also spring from faith in god?



On my atheism..lol.
What is God?
Who is God?
One God or a race of creator God?
Thats my atheism(simplified)

MrPresident1:
I am very much interested in this Peters' generation you have talked about.

Please where should I read

Thank you, you are welcome.

sorry i cant help u..
The same way u read ur bible to figure out the coup was a gift from god..
Figure out peters' generation..

Ranchhoddas:
No they are not.

I believe u know buddhism is an atheistic religion?

An agnostic is an atheist because he lacks the belief in the available gods

malvisguy212:
in other word, if we disobey God, it is God fault.

in otherwords i did not create the phone.

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MrPresident1:
Which one is peters generation Expatiate

read your bible

johnydon22:
If there is indeed a god - the attributes of Yahweh would be an insult to it[/b]

Seconded..thats the Big truth..
How can a creator of a scientific world have little knowledge in scientific things?
I told u i created a phone...i told u i gave you the phone..
And then i tell u that if u press the up volume button while playing music that the phone will start downloading apps from playstore..?
Is that not weird enough for a rational human?

honourhim:
To the atheists, i want to let you know that overcoming the fear of something doesnt make that thing good or non existent.For example- A serial killer has overcome the fear of killing but that doesnt make killing good (anyway atheism preaches that any thing is good if we say its good) ..

@the bolded is a big fat lie...

. A prostitute has overcome the fear/shame of prostitution but that doesnt make it good. A thief/armed robber has overcome the fear of armed robbery but it is still bad. Overcoming the fear of these things does not mean that those who engage in them have escaped the consequences.

the serial killer and his killings,,the prostitute and her prostitution,,the armed robber and his robberby..
These three things stated above each have their undeniable evidences when they occur
Bt what if i have a blog..
And then i put a create a new topic on the news section
And then told u a little boy of 3 years was caught in your country(single state)..and that that boy killed 6 million civilians...
Bt i didnt put my source of the news
and no tv station or radio station carried the news no institution carried the news..
Does that mean that such a tragedy happened?
Definitely not..its a forgery from my human imagination to gain traffic...
Thats the case of hell..

[s]In the light of the above, it is obvious that to overcome the fear of hell fire does not mean that there is no more hell fire or that you wont end up there at last if you dont repent.[/s]

wrong!

ou are only giving yourself a false hope which of course is temporary.

This can be said of christians..
They only give themselves hope of the afterlife...though they have no proof..
The hopeful thought came as a result of not being able to bear the bitter truth that humans in the end will die when their time is up..
So they came up with ideas to give hope of seeing lost(dead) ones again.

To the christians who preach the false message of no eternal torment, you are also giving yourself a false hope.You people are trying to paint a picture that will not be so scary to the unbelievers but the bible clearly stated it in various places that its an eternal punishment. Giving yourself false hope doesnt solve anything.

Any rational human will see that an Eternal punishment for finite sins is a direct contradiction of an all loving and all merciful god..

God cannot raise billions of people up from the grave on the last day just for the purpose of judging and burning them off. Some of them died thousands upon thousands of years ago. Some died in a way that is more horrible way than just being burnt off by fire. If it was about wiping them out then they are already dead and gone so no point raising them up again. They are being raised up to come and face the eternal torment. It may sound painful and wicked to the unbelievers but thats the truth.

eternal torment again..
But he is still all loving..

Nobody is stopping anybody from being a believer.
For those who claim that a loving God cannot do that, pls remember that it is clearly written in the bible that God can love. He can hate. He is a God of vengeance. He is a consuming fire etc. The bible bears records of his acts that reflects these attributes so stop giving out false image of a loving God that cannot punish sinners.

here the ideology behind the christian god is crushed by the christians themselves..
The bible claims he is all loving yet he can hate..
An all knowing god cannot have new emotions...like anger,,plain wickedness,,,
an all merciful god cannot be hellbent on lashing out vengeance..

Questions are welcome at this point.

There is no indisputable evidence for hell..it is a mind control tool..created to whip adherents of a particular religion in line..
An all loving god's religion based on fear of an eternal torment from the same all loving god...cannot exist.

analice107:
Say what u have to. No shaking. Till the day I leave this earth, I will never forget that day.

lol..if americans handle u..
U will know memory is nothing

JohnAdeDavid:
Havent u heard of miracles even scientists could not give answer to cos they know within theirself that God exist...So let me ask u as an atheist, why did u say God doesn't exist?

must u digress?
Have u had hiv before?

MrPresident1:
Failed prophecies

Which one, where?

are u in peters' generation?

A coup happens and it becomes god sent..
..
Africa!!!...why?

oglalasioux:
Atheists are not scared of hell because hell doesn't exist. All atheists grew up with a mindset; that there is a heaven and hell. The fear atheists talk about is basically the shock of finding out that this age old story is actually a lie.

You talked about the people dead for thousands of years ago being raised up for judgment. My question is; is the judgment about the apple Adam and Eve ate or accepting Jesus Christ as lord and saviour? The christian stance of heaven and hell is predicated on accepting Jesus Christ to cancel out the Adamic sin. So my great grand father, who didn't say that 'lord Jesus' prayer, is going straight to hell. What a loving god. Same with the Muslims and countless other religions.

Come to think of hell. This whole thing started with Adam and Eve eating that forbidden apple. Why didn't an all knowing god know they will eat the apple?

Did I hear you say free will? Why didn't the all knowing god know the man will fail the free will test? Now for it's own incompetence hell is now prepared for 'sinners'. Crap.

I predict that by the year 2050, no educated person will even make references from that tales by moonlight book called the bible.

that adam and eve story is one big fable..
They wont see it...
When u ask them simple questions on it..they begin to digress

sonofthunder:
is there any proof that you were conceived then given birth to and not a clone?

bro serzly..this question has an f9

Ranchhoddas:
...and you call religious people closed-minded?

an agnostic is also an atheist i hope u know?

JohnAdeDavid:
You claim to have faith about panadol curing headache....Let me ask u What cures Hiv nd Aids? Which the doctors claim there is no cure yet...God makes Hiv nd Aids disappear with faith...Remain blessed

have u had hiv before?

Tkayhandsome:
Pity yourself too ooo. You no dey Nigeria?

just one thing....

sevenhundred:
o yes i did not believe or trust any religion but i TRUST GOD, what am I .

smh

Africa!!!
When will u learn..

winner01:
Lol
nawa oo
I thot religion wz bullshit?

believe me...it is

Americans will be americans...religious or not

Lol..another drunk MOG
...soon GO's will begin to be political like popes..

I pity Nigeria...

Image123:
It is not direct but diversionary and a lack of ideas for an atheist to run to gods for help.

yeh..i can see ur ideas..
U believe...
A talking snake
world wide flood
virgin birth etc created the universe
bt disbelieve
a magical egg
moksha
miraculous conception etc created the universe.

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i have said it several times but you keep asking in different forms why i am a christian or why God is the living God. Again, it is evident. He proves to be who He says He is. He is Almighty and that is incontestible.

same can be said for vinshu and the likes..

No god surpasses Him in power, wisdom, coverage, worship, precision and relevance. You cannot take ANY other god to the bank. Jehovah God is the ONLY God that calls the multitudes in their hundreds and they troop in.

same can be said for allah

The difference is as clear as noonday. No adherent of any god wherever can come to a crowd of 20,000 and repeated get hundreds of new and genuine followers freely without any coercion.

then how come people convert to other religions?
Ure saying this based on ur personal belief
..even in nigeria sef..i think earlier this year...over a hundred persons converted to islam at once..in delta or so
can u preach and convert the islamic extremists(isis)? Or boko?

This same Jesus does it repeatedly forever.

people switch lanes...
Its not asif only christianity gains converts..

We are not talking about local gods here mr man.

u feel so..
The adherents do no feel so..

It is indisputable enough, you cannot compare dozing with death. Be guided.

remember..a higher number of adherents doesnt mean it is truth..
Even in ur bible...satan deceives many and will lead many astray..much more than those who will be saved..bt it doesnt make satan to be the person saying the truth..

[s]It is not my ideology, it is an ANALOGY. An analogy is a comparison between two things that are similar in some way, not necessarily EVERY way. Different beliefs and understanding of a place or topic does not mean that it does not exist, or that there are different ones.[/s]

some one cannot make mistake again?

That is why i used an ANALOGY that you can readily relate to to drive home the point. There is only one planet earth, only one Nigerian economy, despite different misunderstandings and opinions about them.

but u see..nigeria is proven to be an existing stuff...
The afterlife isnt..
A better analogy would be
''snow white''
different views and movies about her...different views of her dwarfs etc

Yes he did, you are making the mistake again. Ask real muslim scholars. The man was referring to his eternal fate, not to reward or position. There is no such probabilities with God, anyone who confesses and forsakes his sin, believing God will be forgiven and be in paradise. The Scriptures is definite and clear about it.

he simply means u cannot dictate for allah...he is god..
I gave u a wikipedia page of the islamic heaven...it is there

Note that you have been UNABLE to show me where worship of Allah is said to guarantee a safe side..

www.islamhelpline.net/node/6778
.
orbitislam.com/ways-to-enter-jannah/
.
Quran 19 v 72: Then we shall save those who used
to fear Allah and were dutiful to Him. And we shall
leave the polytheists and wrong doers therein
humbled to their knees in Hell fire.

You are proving it because so far, you have being UNABLE to show how others are EXACTLY like mine, like you previously asserted.

should we take every single piece of ur faith one by one and put it under scrutiny?
Bt where did i say ur faiths are exactly?

[s]It means you just said it without any concrete proof or thinking. i guess you read that in some webpage or atheist blog[/s]

am not even on any religious or irreligious forum except nairaland..sorry to burst your bubble tho..

Here you have thrown in another careless statement again. Mention the many that resurrected and you'll start stammering. Serious people don't talk that way.

listverse.com/2013/03/30/10-resurrected-religious-figures/
just a wikipedia search on resurrected figures will heighten your temper the more

In other words, anything you cannot see must be a myth?

it must be testable unambiguous and has undisputable evidence

Next time, don't hide behind them. They said you should listen to people like me. Okay?̉

lol...have u ever considered listening to them before?

Their god may just change it for them no matter how 'good' they are. It is not so with God, no correlation.
WHOSEVER believeth in Him WILL NOT PERISH but have everlasting life.

judas believed in jesus..bt he surely went to hell..

Don't waste your God given faith.

pls believe in santa claus..he is a good guy..

You were the one that said "possibly".

i used possibly for only ''ra''
there are other sure hells by other gods

You were wrong with the name

no i wasnt

and the conclusions, no cuts anywhere.

no i wasnt

Again, you are confused on what to believe or not believe. Do you have a problem with the message or the numbers?

abijah cannot speak and 1.2m soldiers would hear him....
On the numbers...based on christian stories on the global flood...to achieve such numbers is ''wow''

Image123:
It is not direct but diversionary and a lack of ideas for an atheist to run to gods for help.

yeh..i can see ur ideas..
U believe...
A talking snake
world wide flood
virgin birth etc created the universe
bt disbelieve
a magical egg
moksha
miraculous conception etc created the universe.

.
i have said it several times but you keep asking in different forms why i am a christian or why God is the living God. Again, it is evident. He proves to be who He says He is. He is Almighty and that is incontestible.

same can be said for vinshu and the likes..

No god surpasses Him in power, wisdom, coverage, worship, precision and relevance. You cannot take ANY other god to the bank. Jehovah God is the ONLY God that calls the multitudes in their hundreds and they troop in.

same can be said for allah

The difference is as clear as noonday. No adherent of any god wherever can come to a crowd of 20,000 and repeated get hundreds of new and genuine followers freely without any coercion.

then how come people convert to other religions?
Ure saying this based on ur personal belief
..even in nigeria sef..i think earlier this year...over a hundred persons converted to islam at once..in delta or so
can u preach and convert the islamic extremists(isis)? Or boko?

This same Jesus does it repeatedly forever.

people switch lanes...
Its not asif only christianity gains converts..

We are not talking about local gods here mr man.

u feel so..
The adherents do no feel so..

It is indisputable enough, you cannot compare dozing with death. Be guided.

remember..a higher number of adherents doesnt mean it is truth..
Even in ur bible...satan deceives many and will lead many astray..much more than those who will be saved..bt it doesnt make satan to be the person saying the truth..

[s]It is not my ideology, it is an ANALOGY. An analogy is a comparison between two things that are similar in some way, not necessarily EVERY way. Different beliefs and understanding of a place or topic does not mean that it does not exist, or that there are different ones.[/s]

some one cannot make mistake again?

That is why i used an ANALOGY that you can readily relate to to drive home the point. There is only one planet earth, only one Nigerian economy, despite different misunderstandings and opinions about them.

but u see..nigeria is proven to be an existing stuff...
The afterlife isnt..
A better analogy would be
''snow white''
different views and movies about her...different views of her dwarfs etc

Yes he did, you are making the mistake again. Ask real muslim scholars. The man was referring to his eternal fate, not to reward or position. There is no such probabilities with God, anyone who confesses and forsakes his sin, believing God will be forgiven and be in paradise. The Scriptures is definite and clear about it.

he simply means u cannot dictate for allah...he is god..
I gave u a wikipedia page of the islamic heaven...it is there

Note that you have been UNABLE to show me where worship of Allah is said to guarantee a safe side..

www.islamhelpline.net/node/6778
.
orbitislam.com/ways-to-enter-jannah/
.
Quran 19 v 72: Then we shall save those who used
to fear Allah and were dutiful to Him. And we shall
leave the polytheists and wrong doers therein
humbled to their knees in Hell fire.

You are proving it because so far, you have being UNABLE to show how others are EXACTLY like mine, like you previously asserted.

should we take every single piece of ur faith one by one and put it under scrutiny?
Bt where did i say ur faiths are exactly?

[s]It means you just said it without any concrete proof or thinking. i guess you read that in some webpage or atheist blog[/s]

am not even on any religious or irreligious forum except nairaland..sorry to burst your bubble tho..

Here you have thrown in another careless statement again. Mention the many that resurrected and you'll start stammering. Serious people don't talk that way.

listverse.com/2013/03/30/10-resurrected-religious-figures/
just a wikipedia search on resurrected figures will heighten your temper the more

In other words, anything you cannot see must be a myth?

it must be testable unambiguous and has undisputable evidence

Next time, don't hide behind them. They said you should listen to people like me. Okay?̉

lol...have u ever considered listening to them before?

Their god may just change it for them no matter how 'good' they are. It is not so with God, no correlation.
WHOSEVER believeth in Him WILL NOT PERISH but have everlasting life.

judas believed in jesus..bt he surely went to hell..

Don't waste your God given faith.

pls believe in santa claus..he is a good guy..

You were the one that said "possibly".

i used possibly for only ''ra''
there are other sure hells by other gods

You were wrong with the name

no i wasnt

and the conclusions, no cuts anywhere.

no i wasnt

Again, you are confused on what to believe or not believe. Do you have a problem with the message or the numbers?

abijah cannot speak and 1.2m soldiers would hear him....
On the numbers...based on christian stories on the global flood...to achieve such numbers in a thousand years plus...is ''wow''

Of course you said that, what did they say, that is the question.

they said in all honesty that their gods are original and the correct version...
Likewise you

Image123:
Is that even a rational statement? How can a book think, and then for someone? This life of unbelief must be very hard on you.

lol...my life aint hard mister..my life is perfectly okay as i intended it to be..
U understand what i mean by a book thinking..i dont have to explain it..

i don't blame the devil for my actions anyway, only criminals do.

i mean..when u sin..do u say the temptation was from the devil or not?

Ever heard of restitution, christians do it all the time. Stop living in a bubble thinking you are the only one who takes responsibility.

u are catching my drift...actions,responsibility,,etc are not from a source..
It is universal..just like morality is not from god or the bible

There is obvious difference between life and afterlife. Even the spellings and pronunciations already tell you they are DIFFERENT, enough said.

so..in the afterlife..u take up a different life? Like brandnew?

You said that the bible teaches that ur life is endless. i showed you otherwise, you are busy striking it. Don't beat yourself to coma please, life goes on.

ok..ok..
Answer the afterlife..

i thought you said that you are an agnostic,
it is your job to hate God.

what is an agnostic atheist?

i said that Love and Charity are christian virtues, they are our core values. i never said that they were exclusive to christians. i said you don't have to be an atheist to love, as that was what you were giving as being a benefit of atheism. You poorly grasped that and went on to talk about exclusivity, a subject that was never there in the first place.

u likened it to a proof of being from a real god or so if im not mistaken..

That is what they are generally known for. It is the characteristic of atheists.

christians are generally known for manipulation and misleading humans.

They are known for mass murder, disregard for human life, arguing up and down or killing people in their millions when empowered.

i also gave u what christianity is also known for...even from the bible itself..millions of death..

when christianity was in control of political stuffs..
What was it known for?

Like you now, you are arguing up and down. If we ask you further now, we will see that you truly have no regard for human life.

why do i have this feeling this is becoming a personal anger stuff?
Flee free to ask deep..u will be amazed man..

Like some other atheists on this forum have told us that there is no difference between ant life and human life.

the difference is that we are humans...and ants are ants..
Bt on the basic scale..life is still a one time stuff...
Each one with its average life span..
Whats the lie there?

It is opportunity that most of you lack, if empowered, you(generally) will commit genocide

no wonder christianity is being eliminated from the state these days..
Christianity or rather...religion in power is catastrophic..

Actually i should be the glad one here. Your initial position was that becoming atheist makes one do good things or make the world better.

nope..wrong..am an atheist because i find no evidence for god..

i've rightly been telling you that you don't need to be an atheist to do good.

exactly..cool we think alike here..
I only said doing good gives rise to better survival opportunities etc..
And thats my humanity

There is no tangible benefit in being atheist.

atheist is not even a thing..
U make it seem like a religion..lol

you said it, try to follow the conversation. You said "no one has proof" then go ahead to say "infact it has been proven". You need to get it together mr man.

i said it has been proven to be very
misleading..bro na wa o..
It has been proven to be very misleading means the belief in an after life has been proven to be misleading..or peoples actions based on afterlife beliefs proves it is misleading..
I never said the after life has been proven..dnt quote me wrong

You cannot undisputably prove when you die and cease to exist. You can only wish it.

i was jst tryna potray how it in a faithy manner...not that it is...and like i said..that was my own personal wish...
Animals die..likewise humans...
Do animals go into the afterlife?

God is not imaginary, He created you and the universe.

are u kidding me?
My parents mated to make me

He's coming back again too.

lol..prophecy that failed?
Are u in peters' generation?

Image123:
Your initial claim was that zeus is the real god and that he is the father of hercules. You keep shifting the goalpost looking for free tutorship in meaninglessness.

ur idea that a real god has to be the direct creator is wrong...
I said his parents and co..i purposefully said it because i didnt want to start telling greek mythology here..
The original god is chaos i tink..who emerged to the rest..
Bt in the end..zeus became the god or king of them all..
Wetin hard to grab here?

If we use your analogy, Jesus is the real God as He eliminated, eradicated, and made useless and archaic other so called gods.

how did he?
Did he box them?

zeus gave no guidelines for all humanity to follow, Jesus did..

smh..read up greek mythology sir..
U would see the laid down sacrifices to zeus etc..
Which u need to start doing..

Ignorance glorified as usual. i'm not even going to bother, stop being assertive on things you know next to nothing about. Show me where zeus needs my worship, waiting.

what then are the sacrifices for?
Should i bring it here?

Evidently, you are the one who did not get it. You are the one who mis-said that i believe an atheist created zeus. A significant percentage of the gods do not lay claims to putting humanity in hell for not worshipping them or following them. Like i have shown you, the muslims don't know where anyone is going, including themselves.

muslims do..
There are other hell's like i said..
Lesser than ten..so what about them?
Mithra's hell..
The Hindu hell etc..do u worship mithras?

Get enlightened. i don't have time to teach a,b,c.

hey!!
Bro calm down..i didnt know ioffended u by saying jesus didnt exist as the bible claims him to be..
But its the truth..i can only say it is a lie if u have a gun to my neck...

Jozzy4:
Bro, I understand your pain .. Infact I must commend your type of heart that cares deeply about others. Respect

But sir , the scripture made it clear that the world we are presently living in is controlled by the Devil ( 1 John 5:19 " We know that we originate with God, but the whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one. )

In a short time, God has promised to end all suffering ( Rev 21:4 .  And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away.”

pain ke?
Rotflmfao
i only speak the truth...a standard for morals which constantly tells us of barbaric acts and immoral codes of the society..
Truth is not synonymous with pain..
Peace.

Image123:
Because of freewill. BTW, God does not say/promise to personally reveal Himself to anybody,

thats what u wanted to present..when u said i asked about being in a 100% islamic country...

i wonder where you imagined that from. God has sent humans to preach the gospel and whosoever believeth will have life.

not everyone has heard..like i said what happens to those with no access?

If their forefathers had listened, they may have not been the way they are now.

forefathers?
Oh..so they are going to suffer in an eternal hell for the sins of their fore fathers?

You who has heard it more than once, what have you done about it?

lol me?
Forget about me..i dont do fables..

Or why are they your concern, why do you specialise in weeping and gnashing of teeth above the bereaved?

they are my concern because i am a humanist..and im concerned about others..or is it bad?

You seem poor at picking analogies.

skipped tho

i said "You don't waste time telling Dangote that his riches may be fake." In other words, i am so rich in God that it is a waste of time telling me that God may be fake. Your talks about someone else may be the real dude is dead on arrival. It is like.. never mind.

oh...u are rich in your own version of god...
Why do u then feel the other versions are poor in their own god versions?
The same way it feels dead on arrival to u...extrapolate it to others..
So like i said..
Its personal conviction #from all gathered from you

No, obviously the word "Their" is plural, it is not referring to a singular sun. It is referring to all of creation.

baba..calm down..the beginning of verse 4 concludes verse 3..''their''
was talking about the stars..check verse 3..
So talks about the sun starts from after that fullstop.

And a course MUST be orbital?

yes..if the the course it follows was detailed as an orbital one..
And that was what was given..

You detailed/specified it by saying what was NEVER said i.e that the sun made orbits around the earth.

what does circuit now mean?
Baba wants to deny the plain truth..

Give me an example of something divinely inspired. You have been claiming it is not divinely inspired, tell me why. Show me an example of something divinely inspired. At least to shout that something is counterfeit, you should know the real na.

by divinely inspired i meant of a creator..
In a mobile phones' manual given by the creator of the phone..
The on button is said to be the on button..the usb port is said to be the usb port...
Thats divine inspiration(creator/manufacturer/maker inspired)

No, i clearly said how inspiration works. Inspiration is not necessarily dictation. The knowledge of the shape of the earth is yet to significantly matter to up to 1% of all humanity. Can you drop this nonsense already?

oh alright..am correct tho..
M nt the liar here..didnt write any part of the bible

No, i said everybody uses the term SUNRISE and SUNSET until tomorrow, irrespective of their class or knowledge. It is not a biggie, it has nothing to do with geographical facts, and i think i mentioned something about heart break or loving with all your heart. In the physical and biological sense, the heart is simply pumping blood, not breaking. Nobody is having headaches or thinking about omniscience when idioms are used.

depends...

Still does not certify that they MUST be literal 24hr days. Jesus Himself referred to His whole time on earth as a day. He said He must work while it is day, He was not talking about the physical literal 24hours, it was a period. The day of the Lord, the day of judgement are not a period of literal exact 24hours. These are also biblical expressions. Since the light that was to regulate time wasn't even MADE till the fourth day, you should be careful to assert that the days MUST be literal 24hour days.

bruh even the hebrew word depicts a day..
i am only saying the truth..
Okk...What does a seventh day have to do with six days if its not a week?
And then sets(bless) that seventh day as a worship day?/giving it as a pattern for man to follow?
Bruh?
Exo 20:8-11 details the relation between the six days of creation and the seventh day of rest as a week..

If u can believe 'days' may not be literal days..then how do u expect me to believe jesus rose from the dead in 3 days?

You've not presented much logic either. Most of what you have presented have being based on blind faith and probability/suppositions. It is close-minded to limit oneself to listening to only logic. Not every reality is logic, some things transcend logic, like peace, joy, love and faith. Not everything is mathematical or scientific in life.

hey! i did not tell you god exists..you guys did..
I base on reason and open mindedness

i have not argued otherwise regarding neanderthals, we have both agreed that they are different from homo sapiens remember. i said you should "Show me where. Evidently, you are the one lying." Because YOU said that creation accounts say we are the only and first type of humans to. That is a lie, the Bible does not say that we are the only and first creatures on earth. Again, i will have to ask you, are homo sapiens the same as neanderthals?

the creation account clearly states that no being was on this earth before god created it..
Light-firmament-dry land-plants-sun and co-animals-man.
Okkay..
Why would god then say let us make man ? If they had been other men?
Or neanderthals are not ''human''?