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felixomor:
Again, u show ur desire too keep talking to hide a defeat of ur argument.

What has color description got to do with the dye it is produced with?

Well, Here is a scripture where red is used to describe "crimson" and "crimson" is linked to "scarlet"

Isa. 1:18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.


Here is the word for "scarlet" in the hebrew manuscipt of the bible.

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sha^ni^y
shaw-nee'
Of uncertain derivation; crimson, properly the insect or its color, also stuff dyed with it: - crimson, scarlet (thread).

Now here is the original greek translation from the part of the bible u are arguing.

"scarlet" in Matthew 27:28

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kokkinos
kok'-kee-nos
From G2848 (from the kernel shape of the insect); crimson colored: - scarlet (colour, coloured).

Those are straight from the original manuscript of the bible.

I purposely copied them straight so as to show that u have never ventured in your life to study the hebrew and greek writings from which the bible were translated to English. That is really sad of u.

U just jump in cut and paste and come to argue.

But u can see above that the bible uses red, crimson and even scarlet to some time refer to the same colour.

U have fired blank there!

If u like argue against the original greek translation, the truth is obvious now.




As i Said before, what r u waiting for?
Or u don tire to quote bible out of context?

although i mistakenly asked
red or scarlet...common sense should have told you i meant
scarlet or purple...
Because matt 27:28 states scarlet
and john 19:2 states purple and not red...
When i said i cant answer in detail because of bots...you didnt pick up the simple statement

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purple and scarlet were treated as two different colours....thats why i said they have different origins in relation to the different dyes used in producing...which gives different colours...
The bible clearly had a dinstinction between scarlet and purple..
As shown in exodus 25:4 nd rev 17:4

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The word used in john 19:2 is''porphurov'' which means dyed in purple,derived from ''porphura'' (greek) which is the
name given to the Tyrian purple dye produced from a kind of sea fish..which was a deeper shade...

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In 1464 CE that Pope Paul II ordered the replacement of purple robes with scarlet ones(made from a different dye) for
Church vestments.

Its not a matter of just answering o..T is a thing of ''how well''

felixomor:
the ancients (especially the Romans) used the term purple when speaking of various shades of red, which includes scarlet. Consequently, these different colors sometimes would be called by the same name.
Just like the way "son in law" is used interchangably with "son" in some places where translation was done in ealier times.

You definitely couldnt expect people to have such knowledge of shades of colours like we do now, at the time when the bible was translated?
So no contradiction there.

The ancients had a distinction between ''purple'' and ''scarlet''...in the bible itself...

Exodus 25:4Amplified Bible (AMP) 4 blue, purple, and scarlet fabric, fine twisted linen, goats’ hair, Amplified Bible (AMP)

here we see yahweh telling moses to bring him three fabrics of three different colours
Blue
purple
and scarlet..
To further prove this...

The word used in john 19:2 is''porphurov'' which means dyed in purple,derived from ''porphura'' (greek) which is the
name given to the TYRIAN PURPLE DYE
produced from a kind of shellfish..which was a deeper shade...
In 1464 CE that Pope Paul II ordered the replacement of purple robes with scarlet ones(made from a different dye) for
Church vestments.

also...the word used in matthew 27:28 is ''kokkinos'',,from ''kokkos'' which is the name given to the insect;''kermes'' from which the dye;kermes dye was gotten from...and the kermes dye gives the scarlet colour which as described by pliny the younger as a ''bright red''

Revelation 17:4Amplified Bible (AMP) 4 The woman was dressed in purple and scarlet and adorned with gold, precious stones and pearls,
[and she was] holding in her hand a gold cup full of
the abominations and the filth of her [sexual]
immorality.

scarlet in those days..was adressed as distinct from purple..

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How the hell did you even get four likes for this?

According to the Bible, God killed or authorized the
killings of up to 25 million people. This is the God of which Jesus was an integral part. That is to say:
Jesus himself was an accessory to these murders and massacres. Therefore,Christianity must own
them and admit that their god is in fact a serial, genocidal, infanticidal, filicidal, and pestilential murderer.


Christians have consistently ignored the Old Testament portrayal of God’s murderous behavior.Often they claim that the New Testament overrides
and replaces the Old Testament,
But what cannot be denied is that Jesus himself was a student of the Old Testament,Jesus would have corrected the scriptures and explained that God the Father
(or he himself?) did not commit those atrocities.
one situation(verse) in particular
deserves a focused look, I Samuel 15:3: “Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy
all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to
death men and women, children and infants, cattle
and sheep, camels and donkeys.”
There is no evidence that Jesus denounced this
scripture, and apparently it was in keeping with his concept of God the Father...

126 Ahaziah of Judah
2 Chr 22:7-8
1
1
127 Joash, the princes, and army of Judah
2 Chr 24:20-25
1
10,000
128 God destroyed Amaziah
2 Chr 25:15-27
1
1,000
129 God smote Ahaz with the king of Syria
2 Chr 28:1-5
1
10,000
130 God killed 120,000 valiant men for forsaking him
2 Chr 28:6
120,000
120,000
131 The fall of Jerusalem
2 Chr 36:16-17
10,000
132 The Purim killings: God hath done these things
Esther 2 – 9,10:4
75,813
75,813
133 God and Satan kill Job’s children and slaves
Job 1:18-19
10
60
134 Hananiah
Jer 28:15-16
1
135 Ezekiel’s wife
Ezek 24:15-18
1
1
136 Oh! Susanna
Dan 13:6-62
2
2
137 Judith is blessed above all women (for cutting off a
sleeping man’s head)
Judith 13:6-10
1
138 The Judith massacre: hang ye up this head upon our walls
Judith 15:1-6
1,000
139 Mathathias’s double murder
1 Mac 2:24-25
2
140 Mathathias and his friends slay the wicked sinners
1 Mac 2:44
100
141 God killed Andronicus, the sacrilegious wretch
2 Mac 4:38̉
1
̉142 A Jewish mob killed Lysimachus, the sacrilegious
fellow
2 Mac 4:42
1
143 God helped Judas Machabeus destroy the wicked
1 Mac 3:1-26,2 Mac 8:5-6
800
4,900
144 Judas and his unarmed men kill 3000 of Gorgias’s
soldiers
1 Mac 3:44-4:24
3,000
3,000
145 The Hanukkah killings
1 Mac 4:34-5:7
5,000
17,000
146 The Machabees brothers slaughter the heathens
1 Mac 5:21-51
11,000
37,000
147 Nicanor’s army: The Almighty being their helper,they slew above nine thousand men
1 Mac 7:32-47, 2 Mac 8:24, 15:27
147,002
147,002
148 Jonathan and Simon destroy the wicked out of
Israel
1 Mac 9:46-49, 2 Mac 8:30-33, 10:61
1,000
1,200
149 Five heavenly horsemen cast darts and fireballs at the enemy 2 Mac 8:32-10:38
21,103
21,400
150 God killed Antiochus with an incurable bowel
disease
2 Mac 9:5-28
1
151 Idumeans, traitors, and Jews in two towers 2 Mac 10:16-17
40,000
40,100
152 Nicanor’s head: A manifest sign of the help of God 1 Mac 7:33-48, 2 Mac 15:1-35
35,000
35,000
153 Aliens at Cades 1 Mac 11:74
3,000
3,000
154 John burns to death 2000 in the tower of Azotus 1 Mac 16:10
2,000
2,000
155 God sent wasps to slowly destroy people
Wisdom 11:7-8
1,000
156 Ananias and Sapphira
Acts 5:5-10
2
157 Herod Aggripa
Acts 12:23
1
158 Jesus
Rom 8:32, 1 Pet 1:18,20
1

and the Guiness world record
The Flood of Noah

Gen 7:23
20,000,000
Totals
2,821,364
24,994,828

Scammers and sinners hiding and flourishing under the banner of christianity..
When will africa wake up?

Kenya why??
Kenya should be deleted from the book of africa...
Kenya and se.x stories be like....

Op..thats how asaba will always be...#dead..
Welcome to Asaba...a capital which looks like a village..
The stadium in asaba has been under construction for close to twenty years ..if not more
The slogan of delta should be renamed from --The big heart to The big bank account of Governors..

malvisguy212:
You atheists are soo confuse. What do you understand by God unconditional love ?

unconditional love with conditions

[s]Consider the parable of the prodigal son; did the father love the son ? YES. Did the father love prevent the son from making decision ? NO. What if the son did not return home, and died in the swine, will you blame the father ? NO. But the son make a decision to return home and find everlasting joy.

Does God love those who rejects Christ? Yes.
Does His Love mean He will alter His Justice to
accommodate their rebellion? NO. If the man reject christ and find himself with the devil, will you blame God ? NO!!![/s]

what the hell does all loving and all merciful mean??

Anas09:
Instinct. You keep bringing it up when its uncalled for.

why dont u ask the holy spirit to reveal my sexual preference to you?
I laid out a simple comment..people with sound intellect grabbed my hypothesis..but your carnal nature give you a different premise

malvisguy212:
They suffer the consequence of their sin.

david was even said to be an angel of god..
Your God allowed them to do so..(like incest)
because he was god..
Why are u now complaining about what another God allows his creations to do?
You dont dictate for yahweh...do u?

Image123:
You may have to explain it, i do not understand it. i think for myself
Jam 1:14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed

in other words..satan does not tempt u..and satan is not responsible for evils we see...
Right?

that's why God gave us brains duh.

but he told us we think with our hearts sha..

Actually, your drift was that these things began when you became an atheist.

not what i said...i never said so..

That they are the benefits of becoming atheist.

i gave u benefits of being open minded...atheism is not a thing like the others..

Exactly.
[s]1Co 15:51 Behold, I show you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
1Co 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
1Jo 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.[/s]

Happy?

u mistake me....in the afterlife..are u going to be u or another person?

[s]An unbelieving sinner on the broadroad to destruction. Well described here.
Rom 1 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, ...they which commit such things are worthy of death[/s]

ur choice...you can also say the sun is a flat frying pan..

No, i said they were christian attributes i.e things that christians would naturally do.

and i said it is also things other people naturally do irrespective of religion

You mentioned that atheism suddenly enabled you do similar, which you were unable to do before.

i never said such..u misread

In other words, you agree with what i said right? Only seeking to divert from shameful history right?

history..good word...will today exist forever or become past?
U say that the history of atheism is shameful bt disagree the history of christianity is shameful..

Christianity has NEVER being in control of political affairs in the sense you speak.

check the history of christianity in state affairs

[s]Joh 18:36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.[/s]

not relevant!

Hehehehe, there you go. You did not even wait for me to ask, lol. What's the lie there?

ask deep on anything i only told u what i deem life to be...whats the lie there?

Same thoughts and devil that Mao, Stalin and Hitler had "on a basic scale".

hitler was never an atheist..dont make it seem like u have to tell a good lie like martin luther suggested..

What state? Be clear with examples. i am yet to see a catastrophic state of things where Christianity was practiced. CHRISTIANITY i say. Till tomorrow,
Pro 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people.

state o...asin state affairs control..

Yeah you said those were your new found benefits. That it makes one do good things or make the world better.

as a humanist..not an atheist...
A human can do good things irrespective of belief..
Dont mistake open mindedness to atheism..
I said atheism makes u take responsibility for your actions...#because u dont see it as a result of some evil being tryna win ur soul or something

There is no tangible benefit in being atheist. You are drifting yet again and i do get your drift. You don't need to be an atheist to do good. Your humanity is shown in the need to worship an higher creature/creation, yours being alleged inteligence. Some others worship local gods while yours is abstract.

worship ke?
Who am i worshiping?

What you said is what you said my friend.

check it na

So what are your proofs that the belief in an afterlife are misleading? You spoke with the dead?

lol...
E.g
islamic suicide bombers
theres a cult called heaven's gate...they believe if they die they will be transported to a after life spaceship..in 1997 39 members committed suicide because of this belief...

i've been very gentle on you i hope? Your wish is inconsequential and irrelevant to the realities of the afterlife. Wake up and stop wishing/dreaming.

says someone who wishes for mansions in an unvisited heaven with golden streets...no death bla bla bla..ok

You care about animals, right? Animal life, human life, the same for you. So, go and bother about them. They are not the same for me.

u do not want to share ur precious afterlife with animals..
Why bruh?

Many parents have being mating without making anyone. In other words, that is not all that is involved in your making.

there are ways to make it a one time shot...
Even science tuday does a kinda sure implantation now...
Taking the sperm abi the egg and making sure the stuff works..
Or u havent heard of such?

GOD made you and formed you and knew you from the womb.

not me..
Formed(made) me?
Knew me?
Knew everything about me?
Wont this contrast freewill if take it deeper?

He IS coming back again.

i ask again
are u in peters' generation?

Image123:
You are still wrong though, check up your facts before talking. For someone who claims to base on evidence, you use a lot of faith, guesswork and probability to stand.

None of the gods you speak of claimed to create the world and all humans.

www.greek-gods.info/theogony/chaos/
okay..
HERE ARE
Greek
ophion means life.. Confirm
creation gods
easier to understand
here

Yes.

but they are still around...

i clearly said " for all humanity to follow". i said there is NONE, you say there is. Simply present it or are you operating by faith yet again? Isn't that kind of your expectation from me?

www.theoi.com/Olympios/Zeus.html
sacrifices are sacrifices..since he is the god..so u should..

www.ancientgreece.co.uk/festivals/story/day3_e1.html
did yahweh give the ten commandments to you or the jews?

Yes, do. Show me where zeus needs my worship, waiting. Where and how did he say it? As in, where is your proof that he needs/reuires all humanity to follow him.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Greek_religion
What is now hellinism?
What is a sacrifice to a god?
Was yahweh not receiving sacrifices?
Homer's poems and hymns?
Hesoid's literature containing them?

For all...u forgot ur religion started from a place..not worldwide



modern worship of zeus
knowledgenuts.com/2014/11/05/the-modern-greeks-who-still-worship-zeus/
..
Theres a modern day worship of zeus religion called:Hellenistic polytheistic reconstruction..
[quote]Shifting goals as usual. We are done with muslims now, it is to move to another religion to hide behind. Be a man, stand for what you believe.

i did not shift any goal..i said i used ra as an example..that they are a lotta hells u should also be afraid of..
Where the shifting?

You did not offend me. It is just rather unfortunate that anyone with internet access will make such claims like you do. It is like bringing in someone who cannot read to undergraduate class. The professor simply cannot start teaching abcs or 123. You go and learn such basics in some place else. i have no time, space or energy to start showing you that Jesus came to earth historically.

u will not like it...because u are a christian..
Bt i repeat what i have seen so far...

if jesus existed..he did not exist the way the bible potrayed him to be...
Thats if he was not a creation of pagan beliefs..simple truth

malvisguy212:
What is adultery ? Looking at a woman lust fully, when you have a wife, what kind of motive drive you to mary another wife ? Because she is sexually attractive ? The fingerprint of marriage begin in Genesis one, when God create Adam and give him ONE wife and He enjoined the two to be ONE FLASH. Not man, woman and concubine, BUT MAN AND WOMAN.

the blood line of jesus had polygamy..
U forgot solomon?
Or david who converted someones wife?(right?)

malvisguy212:
Allah love does who do good deed ONLY. The quran say Allah does not love the unbelievers. But in the bible, christ die for me and you while we were YET SINNER.

and yet christ punishes the sinner for eternity for the smallest of sins commited..
Whats the difference?

trapQ:
Keep convulsing over nothing.

i passed the stage of convulsing decades ago

Per the bolded, Pastors who enrich themselves with "God's money" will have to answer to God someday

This is where the delusion kicks in

but in the meantime, atheist money is not and will never be needed by the church.

i believe oubenji tackled this

This isn't hard to comprehend. Keep your money. Y'all can make donations to orphanages and children's foundations but your accursed money isn't needed by the church. Your money will do more harm than good.

i believe if a child dies as a result of rejecting such money..the church will still say it is the plan of god and say they are doing right..
Simple truth...Religion makes people less thoughtful

naijadeyhia:
Choices are there for a reason. If we one chooses to patronize a muslim trader while rejecting same from an Atheist its called the ability to choose.

read what she/he said..

The church doesn't need money from anyone who is against the christian faith.

she/he generalized all contrary opinions including other religions...
But i know its a misguided thought from his/her perspective...
So i singled her/him out

do u buy stuffs from muslims in the market?
If u're a christian and you do.....shame on u..

!

Meanwhile are the kids suffering?

wahala!

Since when did an Atheist develop the ability to show care and love?

this is where you are wrong...

Has the blame game on God ceased? Or they now want to play God?

you care for your loved ones...does it mean u play god?

mtcheew

Image123:
That was not what i wanted to present, don't jump ahead of yourself. You said that God reveals himself to everyone. Stop making crass statements without backup.

no u said..if u were in a 100 percent islamic country god will still reveal himself to u..
So i agreed that he will reveal himself to others...because he is not partial...or is he?
Ure missing the idea...

i already told you what happens to those who do not hear, the same thing that happens to those who sincerely do not see or hear an approaching train. Nobody is going to suffer 'eternally' for another person's sins. All men have sinned and come short of the glory of God. Unfortunately, the actions of others affect others. The actions of your forefathers are probably affecting you too today. If only they had gone with the slaves, who knows, you might have been a Brazilian today. Also if you continue in carelessness, your children will also be affected. That is how the world works, get used to it. If we are to forget about you, then we should forget about others too. Stop being what they call a busybody in other men's matters.

lol to talk about others is now busybodying?
But preaching to others is not?
..
U do not like to give straight answers..
will people who have not heard go to an eternal hell?
If yes..they are suffering for the sins of the forefathers...
So whats ur answer?
(if their fore fathers did not sin#accept wrong religion..they wouldnt be in the mess)
its as simple as abc...

Of course, faith is PERSONAL. Glory be to God, you seem to be taking in something at last. Each individual is expected to have a personal relationship with God, not just follow the multitude or the trend. You've been busy telling me that people are christians because others are christians, and that they lack personal conviction or understanding of what they are doing.

na..dnt misquote me..ive been always saying one thing...
Adherence to a christianity is personal..likewise other religions
not that they reject proof of your god..

No, my foundations are personal, grounded and unshakable in God. Don't come wasting my time with what ifs God is not real, or what if ABC is the real. I know whom i have believed. Period.

thank you..likewise other religions..
Ure beginning to see...
They are unshakable in their various gods.. And he is the real for them..

Actually, you are the one who needs to calm down and listen. Over here, you said that the bolded words give description of an orbital movement of the sun. You bolded line, all the earth, and end of the world in verse 4. And i said that Psalm 19v4 for instance is not even referring directly to the sun and yet you bold it as describing Orbital movement. It is referring to God's works, creation, the heavens showing and declaring the glory of God, it was not referring to orbital movements.

i have corrected myself...
But the sun was talked about in the second sentence of verse 4..and was continued onto verse 6...which still talked about an orbital movement of the sun..
So?

There is no denial there, it is simply your closemindedness at work.


That's divinity? Lol. So divinity is for a manufacturer to give a phone manual and the phone manual is correct. Pretty much everybody does that i think. The Word of God still qualifies this your funny criteria/definition though.

it does not in this aspect..

You don't believe maynots. i said it may not be, that i would not be quick to call them literal. The Bible does not say they are literal, and it shows instances where time is not literal whether day or hour or even week. It is not a major subject of discussion though, you are free to believe it is literal, nothing lost or gained either way.

my research confirms it is literal..
The hebrew word is 'yom'
when ever 'yom' is used with a numeral it is always a 24 hour day..
No exceptions...
U can check it...so it is literal..

Do you believe Jesus rose from the dead?

hell no!

Doubt is not a positive open, neither is unfounded assertion reasonable.

Do you doubt the sun is the source of light u see in day time?
Are u open minded on it being from a space ship?

Show me where the Genesis account clearly states that no being was on this earth.

gen 1:2 earth wasnt existing...ur big guy created land on day 3..
So frm there plants animals man..
From where did neanderthals now come if the earth wasnt existing till he created it?

i thought you agreed earlier that neanderthals are not homo sapiens?

they are still under 'human'..
German shepherd dogs and dalmatians do not look alike..but they are still dogs...

Image123:
Or maybe he did not pay attention in geometry class to classify shapes and figures in an agreed taxonomy.

he had no idea the earth was ball-like

Indisputable proof that what? Is that a new question? When are you going to give us indisputable proofs too?

on what i know or what i dont know?

Evidently you studied the Bible like one of my cousins that studied Mathematics and failed. She did study though, and was sincere too.

if maths told her 1 1=2 and she wrote 1 1=2..she would nt have failed...
The bible said killing is bad...
God is all powerful and kills all kids in the world by a flood...
I repeat what the bible said..and said god killed kids..
U say i failed...smh

Morality of course should be in God, not on individual whims and caprices.

lol...do u agree to killing of disobedient children?

trapQ:
What is your problem?

did i tell u i have one?

When pastors take money you call them all sorts of derogatory names and even now that a pastor has rejected money, you still crying wolf.

a pastor takes money from the poor and uses it to inflate his bank accounts..bt refuses to take money that will help the life of kids ur supposed god failed to provide adequately for..
I see no point u made..

The church doesn't need money from anyone who is against the christian faith.

do u buy stuffs from muslims in the market?
If u're a christian and you do.....shame on u..

Per the bolded, Christians get persecuted and killed all over the world, stop blaming victim.

read and understand...dont rush..
Comprehend !

honourhim:
Which six year old boy? And that supersedes the million others across the globe who stood by their testimonies? The atheists who had the experience and gave their life to Christ. The muslims, the hindus, the traditional worshippers, the occcultic men and others who have experienced this and gave their lives to Christ?

is it only christ they convert to?
The others who deconvert from christianity as a result of their hallucinations nko?

These testimonies have been happening over the years. You are joking by using your so called six year old boy to cancel the overwhelming testimonies. See how you easily believed your six year old boy but find it hard to believe the millions of others who not only testified to this experience but also gave their lives to Christ. You are a hypocrite indeed.

where did i say i believed the six year old dude..where?
I gave him as a classical example to what they are...smh

I have never seen a christian who have had an out of life experience and converted to Islam based on what he saw. What you see is christians converting to muslim due to marriage or money or politics etc. Not based on an out of life experience they had biko.

people convert to various religions because of these hallucinations...
the web is out there for u

Give me a link to such testimonies and i will provide you more to mine.

nderf if im not mistaken..
Just a single google search will ease u..
And why do u seem so concerned about numbers?
Does numbers mean something is truth?

Again you failed. The place you quoted does not show what i asked you to show me. I asked you to show me where it is written that God iis an all loving God who cannot punish people. Kindly show it to me and stop going round.

what are u saying?
How can hate spring out of love?
Ur agument is like this..
God to moses--thou shall not kill
...it is not written that the killing applies only to humans..therefore killing trees and animals are bad..
..smh

Pls stop deceiving yourself. Read what led to that statement in verse 4. Start from Isaiah 25 and follow the writing and you will see the bible was describing of a particular time and event. Notice it kept saying- on that day.
I dont do cut and join in the bible. you dont just cut a statement and portray it wrongly.

but u cut and join isaiah 7:14 and other bible verses..
What about habakkuk?

Pls be sincere in reading the bible. The place you quoted in Jeremiah God told them to return from their backslidden state so that he will not cause his anger upon them. As long as they return he will show them his mercy and not keep his anger forever.
God's anger upon a sinner ceases when the sinner repents. As long as you refused to repent his anger stays there and once you leave this life unrepented, then there is no more repentance room for you. The door of repentance closes.

lol o..
U said i should quote from the bible..i did just that...asin a lot of verses potray god as all merciful..i can bombard u with more...
U only talked about jer...
The rest nko?
Esp psalms and that 1 chro 16:34..

1. I have told you that the fact that God knoweth everything doesnt mean he wont still show us that he is angry when we sin.

then he is not all knowing..
IOW the scripture lied...
And it was said all scriptures are inspired by god..so he lied?

He is dealing with human that is not all knowing and if he says he hates sin, he must show it to man when man sins.

he hates sin and yet he sinned in the bible..and in the end will still claim to be all good and only holy one..
Who is deceiving who?
Some ancient jewish writers or you?

Its a simple thing to understand but your evil mind towards God will pretend not to understand.

lol..the biblical god or another God?
Who?

[s]2. when a sinner repents God changes his mind towards him. God cannot change his mind to youjust because you are angry with him. You can be angry and thats your business, he will still do what he wants to do.[/s]

no need for this..

3. You have no say in your creation. You didnt even ask to be created so you can continue to make the empty noise that God didnt create you.

if my parents hadnt done their stuff on their bed...i will not exist..
Simple as abc

[s]What you are saying would ve made sense if you had say in you creation[/s]

no need for this again!

If you had say in how your life will run

lol..i can decide to be a robber..i can decide to be an actor...i can decide to be a doctor...i can decide to have four kids...i can decide to have two kids...i can decide to have no kids of mine at all and adopt a kid...
I can decide to eat beans...i can decide to eat rice...
I see no point u made...i run my life mister

and when you will die.

i can stay in front of a road and kill myself...
I can live unhealthily and increase my chances of death...i can live healthily and increase my years of survival...so?

For now remain a noise maker that you are.

lol...not really hilarious tho

KingEbukasBlog:
How did you arrive at this ?

on ranchhodda.s or morality?

KingEbukasBlog:
He believes in God

but he believes morality is independent of god...
I didnt say he does not believe in god

Lol..

Oblitz:
SEE BLASPHEMY! CHAI

blasphemy kwa?

Anas09:
I have a very strong feeling you are gay.

wow..did the holy spirit reveal this to you?

Image123:
Okay, according to you, when the Bible is apparently right, it is guesswork, and when it is apparently wrong it is God's work. If we are going to have a profitable discussion, you need to know what you really want. If you want to KNOW, fine, we are on course. If your aim is to show that the Bible is wrong, sorry wrong number.
The only difference between a sphere and a cirle is the dimensions, the are both ROUND. Talking 2-D, 3-D, 4-D is technical stuff. Isaiah CLEARLY stated the roundness of the earth. Another place talks of its "compass", which is also originally rendered circle.

like i said..isaiah knew of words for spherical objects like ball or oval like egg etc...
He talked about ball in isaiah 22:18...so i can confidently say he viewed the earth as a circle...which is still flat..
We are just exchanging ideas...bt i do not believe in ur god at all...bt if u have indisputable proof...you can bring it...
Ive studied the bible...it is both good and bad...
The bible is proof that morality evolves...
The bible(new testament) is a good guide..and i would recommend it to anybody..
I dont believe in jesus bt like his philosophy..

psalmade:
you'll soon see light..

i can see the light in you..
Talking snakes...talking donkeys..

Its really funny..
christianity is like this..
Im a father of two kids...a boy and a girl...im a christian..
They both go to the same school..
My daughter used up her monthly allowance 5 days to the end of the month but needed to buy airtime for her subscribtion but didnt want to ask me because she feels i will be offended..
So she took #500 from my bag without telling me....and then goes to school...
Then my son..being in a mixed school..that day a group of pretty girls passed him and he admired ones' ass..
Unfortunately..
Both of my kids and i died in an accident while i was taking them home from school the same day they did these stuffs...
So yahweh now..will tell me that my kids are going to hell eternally for these stuffs...though he loves them..
My daughter sent to hell for stealing my #500...like wtf? Is it my hard earned money or yahwehs?
Yahweh follow me work the money?
Or my son..
My son goes to hell for admiring a girl..
How the hell did i get acqauinted with his mother?
And yahweh will tell me my son is going to an eternal hell for this?

Wont i break yahweh's teeth?


Valentinemary..nice thread..
HAPPY ARE THOSE WHO HAVE NOT SEEN EVIDENCE AND AS A RESULT DONT BELIEVE

donnffd:
Nice post Valentinemary

The concept of hell is such a stupid and appalling one that i even got rid of the idea while i was still a christian long before i became an atheist.

Bring the worst dictator in all of human history, and i mean the worst, make your pick, hitler, genghis khan, Stalin, e.t.c and i still dont think that person deserves an ETERNITY in hell.

Like seriously, what would anyone do in less than 120years that would warrant them that can of torturing for all of ETERNITY...i am emphasizing ETERNITY, life withoud end, which kind of sick God would do something like that?, now talkless of trivia sin.

When i hear people say "Hell is real", i cringe and wonder where their sense of justice and morality went, not to talk of the question of "How do you know?"...

bruh..the joke of christianity started when someone tells me that if i live a good life i will go to an eternal hell if i dont say these words''JESUS I ACCEPT YOU INTO MY LIFE'' but a rapist/serial killer can kill for his entire life and in the last month of his life..truly repent and says those words and they he becomes a candidate of heaven...
Is that not silly?

Lol..some religious sects amuse me..
Like those guys who are against females wearing trousers...it really cracks me up.
Some even go up to the extent of feigning being in hell/heaven and god told them those stuffs put persons in danger of the funny hell fire..
Well im not really suprised