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Christianity Etc › Re: Understanding The Difference B/w Atheism, Religion And The Divine Truth Of Love by MrMystrO(op): 9:19pm On Nov 01, 2016

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Why must anyone who doesn't Believe in the Doctrines of Religion as the Source of Ultimate truth be called an Atheist? I find that a very common Flaw in the discussions of Religiously motivated Nairanders which must be attended to. Atheism, if You observe very closely, is a Bit like religion itself which they themselves condemn, an attempt, like religion, To Explain The Existence of an infinite Entity, A Source, a Multidimensional consciousness/mind Which is the foundation and Basis of all levels of Realities/existence, And since they cannot comprehend or understand the existence of this Entity, choose the escapist way out, Which is By saying IT DOES NOT EXIST simply because They cannot Comprehend its existence. I have studied the proofs and questions they have put forth to support this belief and in every question they put forth, i have found an answer through the inner multidimensional GOD Consciousness in me.

There was a beginning in existence, and before that beginning there was a purpose, And behind that purpose there was a consciousness, A mind That first envisioned that reality, A mind which has never Stopped being because it exists in another dimension outside space and time, outside our physical universe, And our universe is just a manifestation of a Great thought Brought into being by The Infinite and most divine power of that consciousness Called LOVE. We can never in a billion years, even come close to understanding this Entity as long as we Are a part of this physical universe. We haven't even been able to understand the way life/existence works outside this planet, talk less of outside this universe. Its Existence can never be fully comprehended by any being in this universe, human or alien no matter how advanced their Evolution might be Because it is the source of all existence and all levels of Realities. We are all the same infinite universal mind, just experiencing its Great endless thoughts through different forms of existence and dimensions. Nothing is really separate, everything is one and one is everything. Division and individuality are just mere tricks of our space and time reality of this physical universe. Every form of life is the same universal consciousness experiencing reality in a whole other factional and minute perspective and that is the joy of existence itself.

But The Ultimate TRUTH, We can easily know by looking deep down within ourselves as conscious beings with a divine Multidimensional conscious soul and by also studying the complex beauty, Order and Laws of Nature and the Universe itself, Then your inner GOD consciousness will instantly reveal itself to you that there is An ultimate cause and reason for existence as a whole, Designed by the infinite multidimensional consciousness called God by we humans, Even before reality was caused into being. Like i said earlier, we cannot come close to comprehending this ultimate entity in our lifetimes here on earth, but we can be aware of its existence Because it manifests itself in all dimensions and all levels of reality,and its quite easy finding this awareness of that Divine multidimensional consciousness in ourselves, you know why? Because all you have to do is dig really deep into the depths of your own consciousness and you will discover that YOU ARE THAT CONSCIOUSNESS, We all are!!! Individuality/separation is the biggest trick in the whole of reality itself because We are all tiny fractions of that universal ever conscious mind which made everything come into being, And the totality of all there was, is, and all there will ever be, Is The ONE Great Universal multidimensional consciousness Which we humans call God.

Religion, was an attempt by The ancient clairvoyant men of Old who also had this awareness that such a source or being that was responsible for the creation of reality existed, And tried to understand this entity to the best of their limited understanding, which eventually resulted in the personalization of that entity based on what they knew at that time. And since back then, The men of old Didn't fully understand the full and true reality of the universe more than a Dog understands what it sees when looking at the sun or the moon, They created their own image based on their own limited understanding of what they felt was God, and Ascribed to it the attributes, role and the position which they gave to the highest Human at that time, Which was the role of a king. And then these traditions and these beliefs were carried from ages to ages. Which is why God is actually "worshiped" like a king just as the ancients worshiped their kings, and also felt their purpose is to "serve" it just like The ancients served their king, and also believed that it gets angry when disobeyed (which is a really serious thing when a king gets angry) and can decide to punish you when you go against its rules just like a King does.And it is so funny how these Traditions and beliefs has been passed down from ages to ages, thereby suppressing our true aim of being here in this earthly existence which is to Grow in our knowledge and comprehension of the Divine multidimensional mind called God simply for the Fear of being Punished by The creator(Or the King of Kings)

I Hereby Boldly state it To you that our purpose of existence is NOT to "WORSHIP" The divine multidimensional consciousness/mind called God, But rather to Grow in our Understanding of this multidimensional Entity through our existence here on earth by which the soul learns through reincarnation and Karma, the consequences of good and evil by picking up negative karma while here on earth through evil deeds, and cleansing or paying back all its negative karma, which can be achieved by sufferings and pains of multiple lifetimes, and mostly through the infinite Power of unconditional LOVE, And Which After all this, the soul becomes a more enlightened soul, And is ready to move on to another level/dimension of Reality and existence to further continue its journey of spiritual Growth of being more at one and more and more connected to that divine infinite multidimensional consciousness/mind which we all call God, whose Sole Power is LOVE Which manifests itself through TRUTH.

Atheism is a man made ideology, that detaches itself from the Self evident Ultimate TRUTH simply because it Does not understand TRUTH.
Religion, is also a man made ideology, which was a more honest effort at trying to Understand the Ultimate TRUTH and which still contains some elements of TRUTH(Though it contained way more GENUINE TRUTHS back then) before it was corrupted by the roman world government at that time and manipulated for the purpose of mental slavery, through the idea of hell fire and Eternal damnation for the soul if it does not live according to the rules of the creator. Although i would support belonging to a religion any day than To be an atheist in which there is no element of truth in, But religion on the other hand, still conveys the ideas of slavery, the idea of the suppression of reason and true knowledge for everyone, And mostly the idea of separation, and it veils the ultimate truth that regardless of our different religion, there is only one GOD.

There is only One Divine Multiversal multidimensional Consciousness in which we are all tiny fragments of, Finding its way back to its source, and DIVINE TRUTH, Which is that which you are not told or taught, but that which reveals itself to you through your inner ever present GOD consciousness Which lies in each and every one of us, Is still the TRUE PATH for all the souls here on earth to follow, And this path was also the path which the clairvoyant men of old,(such as Jesus, Mohamed, Buddha, Krishna, Zoroaster and the rest of them whom we call messiahs today)(Men who had completed their karmic cycles here on earth and had achieved the enlightenment of the soul,thereby have become free from the karmic reincarnation cycles of the earth) out of love and the need to steer lost souls to the right direction, Choose to reincarnate back to earth with their enlightened souls, To Teach Mankind here on earth. And this path Was The PATH OF LOVE manifested Through DIVINE TRUTH as the path for All souls on earth to follow, because it is the Destiny of all souls to Achieve enlightenment and God consciousness like they did.

The evil forces in the world didn't want this, Because all souls achieving enlightenment will bring an end to evil in this world, By greatly utilizing the power of Love through the collective consciousness of every individual consciousness in the world, To turn the earth into a "Paradise" And since evil has always and still rules this world now,(Although temporarily) it wasn't long before the teachings of these clairvoyants were eventually altered by the governments of the world to Establish Religion, Which is a tool to stop the Collective consciousness of the world from working together to change the world and eliminate all forms of self and evil in the world, Rather this tool called religion created separation and discrimination in the minds of humans, Making everyone think that their religion alone is the only path to redemption, thereby succeeding in stopping the collective consciousness of every individual in the world from working together to change the world.

These so called messiahs or saviors never wanted to be worshiped, rather, more than anything else, they desired themselves to be emulated, And hoped all humans Share their True message of LOVE as the source,The ultimate force of the divine multidimensional consciousness/mind through which anything can be achieved, And DIVINE TRUTH as the Path through which This LOVE can be Found.

I Also want to make it clear that this is not a religion, and i am not trying to convert anybody to these beliefs, as in the end TRUTH must and will always prevail as it always does, But since most people have been accustomed to religion all their lives, and must always try to classify a belief system as one, If you want to give it a name, you can call it The religion of LOVE, ONENESS AND TRUTH. BUT No one should be forced into believing anything they choose not to because either we know it or not, we are all following the same path, regardless of our beliefs or religion and all our souls must and will arrive at the point of enlightenment when our earthly cycles are completed, its basically just designed that way by the ever conscious multidimensional divine creator so That no soul can get lost eternally, and must find its way back to redemption and enlightenment. This information has been thoroughly suppressed by the POWERS THAT BE, Here on earth, But luckily for us, The real TRUTH has been revealed to a few clairvoyants, and it is a message that is to be spread with Love, truth and without the use of force in anyway because Truth reveals itself naturally through Love and not by force.

I hope my post was useful in clarifying some doubts and flaws in the minds of The open minded ones here on nairaland(The religionists will always discredit whatever you say as long as its not in line with their doctrines, so this post was not made for you,You are free to decide to stay focused on your path which is religion and when practiced with a good heart and a genuine desire to be a Good and selfless person Regardless of your religion, And also follow its true principle that can also be found in every other religion, which is still LOVE and spreading it unconditionally to the best you can, everywhere u go, then you are still on the right path and enlightenment is not far from you)

Nevertheless this Post is for the open Minded ones in search of the Raw Undiluted TRUTH, and you can feel free to comment or ask questions where you deem necessary, and you can also ask questions you still have about topics which i did not mention here and i'll be glad to answer them for you. Thank you all for reading And may Everyone of you fine true Joy, Happiness and peace here on your Earthly journey through The infinite Divine power of LOVE and TRUTH. Have a blessed day.

Christianity Etc › Re: Understanding The Difference B/w Atheism, Religion And The Divine Truth Of Love by MrMystrO(op): 8:58pm On Nov 01, 2016

Wilgrea7:
Why must anyone who doesn't Believe in the Doctrines of Religion as the Source of Ultimate truth be called an Atheist? I find that a very common Flaw in the discussions of Religiously motivated Nairanders which must be attended to. Atheism, if You observe very closely, is a Bit like religion itself which they themselves condemn, an attempt, like religion, To Explain The Existence of an infinite Entity, A Source, a Multidimensional consciousness/mind Which is the foundation and Basis of all levels of Realities/existence, And since they cannot comprehend or understand the existence of this Entity, choose the escapist way out, Which is By saying IT DOES NOT EXIST simply because They cannot Comprehend its existence. I have studied the proofs and questions they have put forth to support this belief and in every question they put forth, i have found an answer through the inner multidimensional GOD Consciousness in me.

There was a beginning in existence, and before that beginning there was a purpose, And behind that purpose there was a consciousness, A mind That first envisioned that reality, A mind which has never Stopped being because it exists in another dimension outside space and time, outside our physical universe, And our universe is just a manifestation of a Great thought Brought into being by The Infinite and most divine power of that consciousness Called LOVE. We can never in a billion years, even come close to understanding this Entity as long as we Are a part of this physical universe. We haven't even been able to understand the way life/existence works outside this planet, talk less of outside this universe. Its Existence can never be fully comprehended by any being in this universe, human or alien no matter how advanced their Evolution might be Because it is the source of all existence and all levels of Realities. We are all the same infinite universal mind, just experiencing its Great endless thoughts through different forms of existence and dimensions. Nothing is really separate, everything is one and one is everything. Division and individuality are just mere tricks of our space and time reality of this physical universe. Every form of life is the same universal consciousness experiencing reality in a whole other factional and minute perspective and that is the joy of existence itself.

But The Ultimate TRUTH, We can easily know by looking deep down within ourselves as conscious beings with a divine Multidimensional conscious soul and by also studying the complex beauty, Order and Laws of Nature and the Universe itself, Then your inner GOD consciousness will instantly reveal itself to you that there is An ultimate cause and reason for existence as a whole, Designed by the infinite multidimensional consciousness called God by we humans, Even before reality was caused into being. Like i said earlier, we cannot come close to comprehending this ultimate entity in our lifetimes here on earth, but we can be aware of its existence Because it manifests itself in all dimensions and all levels of reality,and its quite easy finding this awareness of that Divine multidimensional consciousness in ourselves, you know why? Because all you have to do is dig really deep into the depths of your own consciousness and you will discover that YOU ARE THAT CONSCIOUSNESS, We all are!!! Individuality/separation is the biggest trick in the whole of reality itself because We are all tiny fractions of that universal ever conscious mind which made everything come into being, And the totality of all there was, is, and all there will ever be, Is The ONE Great Universal multidimensional consciousness Which we humans call God.

Religion, was an attempt by The ancient clairvoyant men of Old who also had this awareness that such a source or being that was responsible for the creation of reality existed, And tried to understand this entity to the best of their limited understanding, which eventually resulted in the personalization of that entity based on what they knew at that time. And since back then, The men of old Didn't fully understand the full and true reality of the universe more than a Dog understands what it sees when looking at the sun or the moon, They created their own image based on their own limited understanding of what they felt was God, and Ascribed to it the attributes, role and the position which they gave to the highest Human at that time, Which was the role of a king. And then these traditions and these beliefs were carried from ages to ages. Which is why God is actually "worshiped" like a king just as the ancients worshiped their kings, and also felt their purpose is to "serve" it just like The ancients served their king, and also believed that it gets angry when disobeyed (which is a really serious thing when a king gets angry) and can decide to punish you when you go against its rules just like a King does.And it is so funny how these Traditions and beliefs has been passed down from ages to ages, thereby suppressing our true aim of being here in this earthly existence which is to Grow in our knowledge and comprehension of the Divine multidimensional mind called God simply for the Fear of being Punished by The creator(Or the King of Kings)

I Hereby Boldly state it To you that our purpose of existence is NOT to "WORSHIP" The divine multidimensional consciousness/mind called God, But rather to Grow in our Understanding of this multidimensional Entity through our existence here on earth by which the soul learns through reincarnation and Karma, the consequences of good and evil by picking up negative karma while here on earth through evil deeds, and cleansing or paying back all its negative karma, which can be achieved by sufferings and pains of multiple lifetimes, and mostly through the infinite Power of unconditional LOVE, And Which After all this, the soul becomes a more enlightened soul, And is ready to move on to another level/dimension of Reality and existence to further continue its journey of spiritual Growth of being more at one and more and more connected to that divine infinite multidimensional consciousness/mind which we all call God, whose Sole Power is LOVE Which manifests itself through TRUTH.

Atheism is a man made ideology, that detaches itself from the Self evident Ultimate TRUTH simply because it Does not understand TRUTH.
Religion, is also a man made ideology, which was a more honest effort at trying to Understand the Ultimate TRUTH and which still contains some elements of TRUTH(Though it contained way more GENUINE TRUTHS back then) before it was corrupted by the roman world government at that time and manipulated for the purpose of mental slavery, through the idea of hell fire and Eternal damnation for the soul if it does not live according to the rules of the creator. Although i would support belonging to a religion any day than To be an atheist in which there is no element of truth in, But religion on the other hand, still conveys the ideas of slavery, the idea of the suppression of reason and true knowledge for everyone, And mostly the idea of separation, and it veils the ultimate truth that regardless of our different religion, there is only one GOD.

There is only One Divine Multiversal multidimensional Consciousness in which we are all tiny fragments of, Finding its way back to its source, and DIVINE TRUTH, Which is that which you are not told or taught, but that which reveals itself to you through your inner ever present GOD consciousness Which lies in each and every one of us, Is still the TRUE PATH for all the souls here on earth to follow, And this path was also the path which the clairvoyant men of old,(such as Jesus, Mohamed, Buddha, Krishna, Zoroaster and the rest of them whom we call messiahs today)(Men who had completed their karmic cycles here on earth and had achieved the enlightenment of the soul,thereby have become free from the karmic reincarnation cycles of the earth) out of love and the need to steer lost souls to the right direction, Choose to reincarnate back to earth with their enlightened souls, To Teach Mankind here on earth. And this path Was The PATH OF LOVE manifested Through DIVINE TRUTH as the path for All souls on earth to follow, because it is the Destiny of all souls to Achieve enlightenment and God consciousness like they did.

The evil forces in the world didn't want this, Because all souls achieving enlightenment will bring an end to evil in this world, By greatly utilizing the power of Love through the collective consciousness of every individual consciousness in the world, To turn the earth into a "Paradise" And since evil has always and still rules this world now,(Although temporarily) it wasn't long before the teachings of these clairvoyants were eventually altered by the governments of the world to Establish Religion, Which is a tool to stop the Collective consciousness of the world from working together to change the world and eliminate all forms of self and evil in the world, Rather this tool called religion created separation and discrimination in the minds of humans, Making everyone think that their religion alone is the only path to redemption, thereby succeeding in stopping the collective consciousness of every individual in the world from working together to change the world.

These so called messiahs or saviors never wanted to be worshiped, rather, more than anything else, they desired themselves to be emulated, And hoped all humans Share their True message of LOVE as the source,The ultimate force of the divine multidimensional consciousness/mind through which anything can be achieved, And DIVINE TRUTH as the Path through which This LOVE can be Found.

I Also want to make it clear that this is not a religion, and i am not trying to convert anybody to these beliefs, as in the end TRUTH must and will always prevail as it always does, But since most people have been accustomed to religion all their lives, and must always try to classify a belief system as one, If you want to give it a name, you can call it The religion of LOVE, ONENESS AND TRUTH. BUT No one should be forced into believing anything they choose not to because either we know it or not, we are all following the same path, regardless of our beliefs or religion and all our souls must and will arrive at the point of enlightenment when our earthly cycles are completed, its basically just designed that way by the ever conscious multidimensional divine creator so That no soul can get lost eternally, and must find its way back to redemption and enlightenment. This information has been thoroughly suppressed by the POWERS THAT BE, Here on earth, But luckily for us, The real TRUTH has been revealed to a few clairvoyants, and it is a message that is to be spread with Love, truth and without the use of force in anyway because Truth reveals itself naturally through Love and not by force.

I hope my post was useful in clarifying some doubts and flaws in the minds of The open minded ones here on nairaland(The religionists will always discredit whatever you say as long as its not in line with their doctrines, so this post was not made for you,You are free to decide to stay focused on your path which is religion and when practiced with a good heart and a genuine desire to be a Good and selfless person Regardless of your religion, And also follow its true principle that can also be found in every other religion, which is still LOVE and spreading it unconditionally to the best you can, everywhere u go, then you are still on the right path and enlightenment is not far from you)

Nevertheless this Post is for the open Minded ones in search of the Raw Undiluted TRUTH, and you can feel free to comment or ask questions where you deem necessary, and you can also ask questions you still have about topics which i did not mention here and i'll be glad to answer them for you. Thank you all for reading And may Everyone of you fine true Joy, Happiness and peace here on your Earthly journey through The infinite Divine power of LOVE and TRUTH. Have a blessed day.

Christianity Etc › Re: Understanding The Difference B/w Atheism, Religion And The Divine Truth Of Love by MrMystrO(op): 8:52pm On Nov 01, 2016

Only seek for the TRUTH from your GOD Consciousness within. Well All have it in us and it shall remain dormant until we choose to accept that inner part of us as the real self, Only then can We be really Free and Realize our true potentials.

Christianity Etc › Re: Understanding The Difference B/w Atheism, Religion And The Divine Truth Of Love by MrMystrO(op): 8:51pm On Nov 01, 2016

Christianity Etc › Re: Understanding The Difference B/w Atheism, Religion And The Divine Truth Of Love by MrMystrO(op): 7:32pm On Nov 01, 2016

JhyMedex:
Nice!!!

Shld av compartmentalized it Tho ...
It's long n wordy, some pple will nt read...

U cld choose a pt n discuss in maybe 2-3 paragraphs..

Yl pple read n comment...

U post in btw comments

Alright bro, i will modify it soon enough to make it more readable.

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Atheist Creed Changed by MrMystrO(m): 2:31pm On Nov 01, 2016

JhyMedex:
I'll b very glad to do dt...
Tanx 4 acceding to my request to open dt thread...

Will b waiting anxiously...

I just opened the thread, its called the difference between atheism, religion and divine love. You can check my profile and my recent topics, this is my first one tho, you can read it there. Hope you find it informative. thanks

Christianity Etc › Understanding The Difference B/w Atheism, Religion And The Divine Truth Of Love by MrMystrO(op): 2:23pm On Nov 01, 2016*

Why must anyone who doesn't Believe in the Doctrines of Religion as the Source of Ultimate truth be called an Atheist? I find that a very common Flaw in the discussions of Religiously motivated Nairanders which must be attended to. Atheism, if You observe very closely, is a Bit like religion itself which they themselves condemn, an attempt, like religion, To Explain The Existence of an infinite Entity, A Source, a Multidimensional consciousness/mind Which is the foundation and Basis of all levels of Realities/existence, And since they cannot comprehend or understand the existence of this Entity, choose the escapist way out, Which is By saying IT DOES NOT EXIST simply because They cannot Comprehend its existence. I have studied the proofs and questions they have put forth to support this belief and in every question they put forth, i have found an answer through the inner multidimensional GOD Consciousness in me.

There was a beginning in existence, and before that beginning there was a purpose, And behind that purpose there was a consciousness, A mind That first envisioned that reality, A mind which has never Stopped being because it exists in another dimension outside space and time, outside our physical universe, And our universe is just a manifestation of a Great thought Brought into being by The Infinite and most divine power of that consciousness Called LOVE. We can never in a billion years, even come close to understanding this Entity as long as we Are a part of this physical universe. We haven't even been able to understand the way life/existence works outside this planet, talk less of outside this universe. Its Existence can never be fully comprehended by any being in this universe, human or alien no matter how advanced their Evolution might be Because it is the source of all existence and all levels of Realities. We are all the same infinite universal mind, just experiencing its Great endless thoughts through different forms of existence and dimensions. Nothing is really separate, everything is one and one is everything. Division and individuality are just mere tricks of our space and time reality of this physical universe. Every form of life is the same universal consciousness experiencing reality in a whole other factional and minute perspective and that is the joy of existence itself.

But The Ultimate TRUTH, We can easily know by looking deep down within ourselves as conscious beings with a divine Multidimensional conscious soul and by also studying the complex beauty, Order and Laws of Nature and the Universe itself, Then your inner GOD consciousness will instantly reveal itself to you that there is An ultimate cause and reason for existence as a whole, Designed by the infinite multidimensional consciousness called God by we humans, Even before reality was caused into being. Like i said earlier, we cannot come close to comprehending this ultimate entity in our lifetimes here on earth, but we can be aware of its existence Because it manifests itself in all dimensions and all levels of reality,and its quite easy finding this awareness of that Divine multidimensional consciousness in ourselves, you know why? Because all you have to do is dig really deep into the depths of your own consciousness and you will discover that YOU ARE THAT CONSCIOUSNESS, We all are!!! Individuality/separation is the biggest trick in the whole of reality itself because We are all tiny fractions of that universal ever conscious mind which made everything come into being, And the totality of all there was, is, and all there will ever be, Is The ONE Great Universal multidimensional consciousness Which we humans call God.

Religion, was an attempt by The ancient clairvoyant men of Old who also had this awareness that such a source or being that was responsible for the creation of reality existed, And tried to understand this entity to the best of their limited understanding, which eventually resulted in the personalization of that entity based on what they knew at that time. And since back then, The men of old Didn't fully understand the full and true reality of the universe more than a Dog understands what it sees when looking at the sun or the moon, They created their own image based on their own limited understanding of what they felt was God, and Ascribed to it the attributes, role and the position which they gave to the highest Human at that time, Which was the role of a king. And then these traditions and these beliefs were carried from ages to ages. Which is why God is actually "worshiped" like a king just as the ancients worshiped their kings, and also felt their purpose is to "serve" it just like The ancients served their king, and also believed that it gets angry when disobeyed (which is a really serious thing when a king gets angry) and can decide to punish you when you go against its rules just like a King does.And it is so funny how these Traditions and beliefs has been passed down from ages to ages, thereby suppressing our true aim of being here in this earthly existence which is to Grow in our knowledge and comprehension of the Divine multidimensional mind called God simply for the Fear of being Punished by The creator(Or the King of Kings)

I Hereby Boldly state it To you that our purpose of existence is NOT to "WORSHIP" The divine multidimensional consciousness/mind called God, But rather to Grow in our Understanding of this multidimensional Entity through our existence here on earth by which the soul learns through reincarnation and Karma, the consequences of good and evil by picking up negative karma while here on earth through evil deeds, and cleansing or paying back all its negative karma, which can be achieved by sufferings and pains of multiple lifetimes, and mostly through the infinite Power of unconditional LOVE, And Which After all this, the soul becomes a more enlightened soul, And is ready to move on to another level/dimension of Reality and existence to further continue its journey of spiritual Growth of being more at one and more and more connected to that divine infinite multidimensional consciousness/mind which we all call God, whose Sole Power is LOVE Which manifests itself through TRUTH.

Atheism is a man made ideology, that detaches itself from the Self evident Ultimate TRUTH simply because it Does not understand TRUTH.
Religion, is also a man made ideology, which was a more honest effort at trying to Understand the Ultimate TRUTH and which still contains some elements of TRUTH(Though it contained way more GENUINE TRUTHS back then) before it was corrupted by the roman world government at that time and manipulated for the purpose of mental slavery, through the idea of hell fire and Eternal damnation for the soul if it does not live according to the rules of the creator. Although i would support belonging to a religion any day than To be an atheist in which there is no element of truth in, But religion on the other hand, still conveys the ideas of slavery, the idea of the suppression of reason and true knowledge for everyone, And mostly the idea of separation, and it veils the ultimate truth that regardless of our different religion, there is only one GOD.

There is only One Divine Multiversal multidimensional Consciousness in which we are all tiny fragments of, Finding its way back to its source, and DIVINE TRUTH, Which is that which you are not told or taught, but that which reveals itself to you through your inner ever present GOD consciousness Which lies in each and every one of us, Is still the TRUE PATH for all the souls here on earth to follow, And this path was also the path which the clairvoyant men of old,(such as Jesus, Mohamed, Buddha, Krishna, Zoroaster and the rest of them whom we call messiahs today)(Men who had completed their karmic cycles here on earth and had achieved the enlightenment of the soul,thereby have become free from the karmic reincarnation cycles of the earth) out of love and the need to steer lost souls to the right direction, Choose to reincarnate back to earth with their enlightened souls, To Teach Mankind here on earth. And this path Was The PATH OF LOVE manifested Through DIVINE TRUTH as the path for All souls on earth to follow, because it is the Destiny of all souls to Achieve enlightenment and God consciousness like they did.

The evil forces in the world didn't want this, Because all souls achieving enlightenment will bring an end to evil in this world, By greatly utilizing the power of Love through the collective consciousness of every individual consciousness in the world, To turn the earth into a "Paradise" And since evil has always and still rules this world now,(Although temporarily) it wasn't long before the teachings of these clairvoyants were eventually altered by the governments of the world to Establish Religion, Which is a tool to stop the Collective consciousness of the world from working together to change the world and eliminate all forms of self and evil in the world, Rather this tool called religion created separation and discrimination in the minds of humans, Making everyone think that their religion alone is the only path to redemption, thereby succeeding in stopping the collective consciousness of every individual in the world from working together to change the world.

These so called messiahs or saviors never wanted to be worshiped, rather, more than anything else, they desired themselves to be emulated, And hoped all humans Share their True message of LOVE as the source,The ultimate force of the divine multidimensional consciousness/mind through which anything can be achieved, And DIVINE TRUTH as the Path through which This LOVE can be Found.

I Also want to make it clear that this is not a religion, and i am not trying to convert anybody to these beliefs, as in the end TRUTH must and will always prevail as it always does, But since most people have been accustomed to religion all their lives, and must always try to classify a belief system as one, If you want to give it a name, you can call it The religion of LOVE, ONENESS AND TRUTH. BUT No one should be forced into believing anything they choose not to because either we know it or not, we are all following the same path, regardless of our beliefs or religion and all our souls must and will arrive at the point of enlightenment when our earthly cycles are completed, its basically just designed that way by the ever conscious multidimensional divine creator so That no soul can get lost eternally, and must find its way back to redemption and enlightenment. This information has been thoroughly suppressed by the POWERS THAT BE, Here on earth, But luckily for us, The real TRUTH has been revealed to a few clairvoyants, and it is a message that is to be spread with Love, truth and without the use of force in anyway because Truth reveals itself naturally through Love and not by force.

I hope my post was useful in clarifying some doubts and flaws in the minds of The open minded ones here on nairaland(The religionists will always discredit whatever you say as long as its not in line with their doctrines, so this post was not made for you,You are free to decide to stay focused on your path which is religion and when practiced with a good heart and a genuine desire to be a Good and selfless person Regardless of your religion, And also follow its true principle that can also be found in every other religion, which is still LOVE and spreading it unconditionally to the best you can, everywhere u go, then you are still on the right path and enlightenment is not far from you)

Nevertheless this Post is for the open Minded ones in search of the Raw Undiluted TRUTH, and you can feel free to comment or ask questions where you deem necessary, and you can also ask questions you still have about topics which i did not mention here and i'll be glad to answer them for you. Thank you all for reading And may Everyone of you find true Joy, Happiness and peace here on your Earthly journey through The infinite Divine power of LOVE and TRUTH. Have a blessed day.

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Atheist Creed Changed by MrMystrO(m): 9:50am On Nov 01, 2016

JhyMedex:
Biutiful piece... Bruv cld u open a thread whr u cld enlighten us more abt dis...
Really interested n I'm sure a it of oda pple r too...

Thread coming up SOON bro, very soon. be sure to participate in it as i will share it with you. Have a blessed day bro.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Atheist Creed Changed by MrMystrO(m): 9:47am On Nov 01, 2016

JhyMedex:
If only religionist cld present there cases like dis...
Bt no they'll rather roll in n b calling people agents of darkness n threatening dem wit hell...
RabbiRabbi, Jesuobu n d likes...
Threatening pple in2 submission wins u no converts....
Just a bunch of fearful zombies...

Bro am saying it again plsssss as an enlightened soul I feel it's ur responsibility to educate pple on a mass scale....
Open that thread!!!!

Thanks for such positive comments bro, i must say i have been highly inspired by your words and your level of understanding of The truth, That although i personally think religion isn't all that bad and was created for the minds of the ancient man, which was the only way to keep their savage and animalistic behaviors at bay then, We as humans have grown over the ages as a collective consciousness spiritually, and so we do not need such forms of mental slavery or the suppression of true spiritual knowledge anymore, But rather share this TRUTH which is LOVE, With the whole world, thereby elevating our collective consciousness Again, through which we will Build a new world free of all forms of negativity and evil, based on The foundation of LOVE, And get ever closer in our eternal journey to the True source of all things, The Divine Multidimensional Consciousness of Reality which we all Call God.
I have really been motivated by your idea to open a thread which i will start working on Opening soon enough, Through wish i shall discuss The real Truth of many issues lurking in the mind of relionists and non religionists alike, and you will definitely be welcome to participate in the thread as i will share it will you. Thank you so much sir and remain Blessed.

Christianity Etc › Re: Who Created Hell?? God Or Satan by MrMystrO(m): 10:57pm On Oct 31, 2016

Jacksonville:
Mr man your problem is obviously lack of comprehension. You actually quoted me out of ignorance.

Look here, I'm not talking about real or fake men of God. But I'm only against powers and principalities that do not confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. Even the devil does miracles, that's what they call magic. They prophesy through divination and not the Spirit of God... it's only through the Spirit of God one can discern between fake and real...
..but that's not my point.

otem claims his god created Jehovah and the universe .. He should give us proof and not fake tales...

You on your part is just another psychopathic confused entity. let otem keep feeding you with demonic doctrines.

Lol i dont have anything to do with otem or believe in anything He is saying, To me, He is just a good writer thats all but i just made my point which i believe if you read my comment just for once again, you will definitely get it.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Atheist Creed Changed by MrMystrO(m): 9:59pm On Oct 31, 2016

Jesuobu:
I only read what the Holy Spirit instruct me to read. I don't read everything. I can't read a long epistle without scriptural backings because that means the poster is relying on his erronous human wisdom.

I break and loose every works of the underworld on Nairaland in Jesus name!

And Funny enough you do not know that your so called religion was coined by The same Human wisdom, by creating it as a tool for mental slavery, therby imprisoning your ability to reason and enhancing the fear to question anything which contradicts anything outside your religious beliefs. I cannot stop you from practicing your religion, neither can i force you to read my post, I only spread love, Truth and positivity and those are the only things required of my soul while here on this earthly voyage, so i do them to the best of my ability. Just that it hurts to see your fellow human drown in a sea of lies and not try to lend a helping hand to rescue that soul from the grips of lies to the freedom of TRUTH. Once again, that is what is required of my soul as a more enlightened soul, to try and free you from the bondage of lies and set you on the path of truth but, As we all know, it is not a choice to be forced on anyone as in due time, all souls must eventually find their way to the truth of the divine multidimensional consciousness called God , either through help, or on their own, no matter how long this quest may take, you are already on a journey of discovering the ultimate truth about existence and you dont even know it yet. Anyways, thanks for your time here on nairaland, and thanks for commenting on my post, it was a pleasure having you say something about it at least.
Stay blessed and may you find LOVE, TRUTH and Happiness on your current journey here on earth. Have a wonderful evening.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Who Created Hell?? God Or Satan by MrMystrO(m): 9:34pm On Oct 31, 2016

franugo:
ur theory is quite convoluted. What if d soul has no negative karma? Would it be reincarnated?

No it wouldn't be, although all souls which have been drawn into the cycle of earthly existence must in some way, pick up negative karma weather it is aware of it or not, for without this, a soul cannot fulfill its purpose of being here in this cycle of earthly existence which is to Learn and Grow spiritually. But eventually, when a soul has no negative karma, its cycle of reincarnation to the earthly realm comes to an end and then the soul is eventually allowed to move on to a higher realm, But some souls, seeing that most human souls are lost, and are in need of help can willingly decide to go through another reincarnation process, but thereby possessing highly advanced souls, and these are the souls of the enlightened men of old who were the total manifestations of truth and love while here on earth and helped teach humans about the moral doctrines of Love and truth, Like Jesus, Buddha, Mohamed, Zoroaster, Krishna and the rest. Only a few people have achieved this total level of redemption from the earth realm, but it is the wish of these enlightened souls, and the destiny of all the souls of men to achieve this state, that is why souls who have already achieved this state comes back again to the earth through the reincarnation process and will keep doing this from time to time till the destiny of the souls of men are fulfilled, which is to be loosed from the stronghold of earthly existence caused by negative karma,Through the Ultimate power of Love, and move on to a higher dimension of existence, where such things as pain, sorrow, suffering and all negative aspects of human existence does not exist, but just purely a positive state of bliss, joy and Growth.

Christianity Etc › Re: Who Created Hell?? God Or Satan by MrMystrO(m): 9:13pm On Oct 31, 2016

Jacksonville:
what do u have as proof that ur god(satan) created the universe mtsww... Bloody lies.

If he created only the universe, then who created human beings. see, just shut up and sit down.

what you preach here is demonic. You're not changing lives, rather you're destroying them via your deceit ND monetary bribe. That's how the devil the deceiver does.

you claim your god is stronger than Yahweh and you are more powerful than him, yet you can't heal the sick, prophesy or do signs and wonders because you're not genuine. Any living and sane entity that doesn't testify that Jesus is Lord, is not genuine and is of the devil.... False prophet.. a prophet of Satan.

What does performing miracles have to do with the Ultimate TRUTH?? That is how the minds of you Nigerians have been misled into thinking anyone who can do miracles and perform signs and wonders is ordained by God. I Hope that TRUTH reveals itself to you someday, But until then, Change ur ideas about signs and wonders being the proof for identifying a genuine man of God. Its a genuine but random Gift from the creator and anyone (Muslim, christian, Buddhist, Zoroastrian and even an ordinary person with no religious beliefs) can perform miracles(i have seen it happen) and it doesn't have anything to do with what you believe or your religion. Anyone, i mean, Anyone can posses this Gift my friend.

Christianity Etc › Re: Who Created Hell?? God Or Satan by MrMystrO(m): 8:54pm On Oct 31, 2016

franugo:
Thanks for d epistle sir @mrmystro...lemme see if i understood you. U said dt souls who aren't too fulfilled, or have not treated.others well will go to this outer hell right?

Yes sir, But it is not eternal. it is just a reality which exists as a result of the excessive negative karma surrounding the soul through its evil deeds during its lifetime on Earth and the time spent in that realm solely depends on the degree of the negative karma surrounding such a soul, But No soul, No matter much negative karma surrounds it is condemned to the eternal darkness of that realm, Rather it serves as a means of cosmic meditation and spiritual growth of the soul so the soul can prepare on its new journey to another lifetime on earth to reduce or cleanse its Negative karma through doing good deeds and spreading Love, And this cycle will continue until the soul has been fully redeemed from all the negative karma surrounding it, freeing it from its reincarnation cycle of the earth, Thereby allowing the soul to move into a new Higher dimension or level of reality/existence which we humans have always called heaven. But this is not the highest level of reality/existence. There are countless levels of realities or realms that the soul can journey and Grow through, Picking up lessons, growing and expanding its consciousness as a spiritual entity and then in the end, fulfill its ultimate purpose for its creation, which is to be One with the creator in the highest realm of ALL of existence, and serve as a companion to the one true source of all reality, The infinite entity, The multidimensional consciousness/mind which we all Call God here on earth.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Atheist Creed Changed by MrMystrO(m): 8:21pm On Oct 31, 2016

Jesuobu:
I didn't really read your dictionary post but got something from the top of the post. Your said you're not a Christian and you're not an atheist. That means, you're sitting on the fence and the devil will just come and drag you down to the land of atheism flowing with fire and brimstone

Well it would have best for you to read my "Dictionary post" first before replying anything to my post. What u just did now is what a lot of people have been doing which is Blindly jumping into conclusions without really understanding the the subject matter at hand, and which always ends up landing them in a state of ultimate confusion. Read my posts first bro, and then u can feel free to ask me questions on them and i'll gladly answer them for you. Don't portray a blind intellect cause i don't see you as one. Be smart and bold enough to attack my ideas where u deem fit. That shows you have an active intellect and not a blind one my friend.

Waiting for you to ask me or say something reasonable.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Atheist Creed Changed by MrMystrO(m): 10:35am On Oct 31, 2016

RabbaRabbi:
one day, you will come to realise that you took the most grevious decision and lived the most care free life. when we cease to exist in this life, then, reality becomes more real than we could imagine. i pray you dont get caught by this merciless trap you have set for yourself.

No, it is you who will discover when you cease to exist on this earthly realm that you have been deceived and lied to your whole life, and that the things and beliefs which you hold so dear to you have always been a man made device established to enslave the minds of humans and keep them at bay, and this "tool" created called Religion is just an earthly man made idea, and we havent even come close to understanding the mind of the universal multidimensional consciousness which we all call God, its Plan for the soul after its earthly existence, And its Grand plan for the soul after it has Gone through all levels of existence and reality.

JUST Don't be too sure that you know it all and you are right, simply because billions of other people think it is also right. USE THE POWER OF YOUR MIND, WHICH IS YOUR GOD CONSCIOUSNESS. FOR THE THE MIND IS THE ULTIMATE POWER, THE SOURCE OF REALITY AND THE SELF REVEALING FORCE OF TRUTH. USE YOUR MIND.

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Atheist Creed Changed by MrMystrO(m): 12:27am On Oct 31, 2016

Jesuobu:
Sometimes something somehow changes a genuine atheist. You may ask what a "genuine atheist" is. A genuine atheist is a human atheist. That why sometimes I don't really care about them because not all of them you see in this section are human. They are agents of the forces of darkness. They are condemned already and destined for hell and they try all they can to convince people to join them and this people they convince are just innocent prey who visit nairaland and they see "religion" section because they don't know what religion is, they pop in thinking it's "christian" section having the erronous belief that Christianity is religion and they get entangled and they loose their faith. These are the people I care about to save. You can't save everyone. Remember satan can't be saved.

Well I am not a christian, my friend. You can check my posts on here, my views about religion is very clear But i am definitely not an atheist. i do Believe there is an Ultimate Entity, A causeless cause, A universal, multidimensional consciousness, Which is the source of all existence and all levels of Realities. We are all the same infinite universal mind, just experiencing its Great endless thoughts through different forms of existence and dimensions. Nothing is really separate, everything is one and one is everything. Division and individuality are just mere tricks of our space and time reality of this physical universe. Every form of life is the same universal consciousness experiencing reality in a whole other perspective and that is the joy of existence itself. But just know and always know that there is a source, an eternal infinite conciousness, and its just too easy finding it you know why? Because all you have to do is dig really deep into the depths of your own consciousness and you will discover that YOU ARE THAT CONSCIOUSNESS, We all are!!! Individuality/separation is the biggest trick in the whole of reality itself. We all all tiny fractions of that universal ever conscious mind which made everything come into being, And the totality of all there is, and all there will ever be, Is The ONE Great Universal multidimensional consciousness Which we humans call God.

My friend, Jesus or any of his apostles never preached about hell. that was the work of the Early roman Christians sect in association with the roman government at that time to alter the words of an enlightened man to promote the concept of eternal damnation through hell fire, In a bid at establishing Christianity as the only or dominant religion in the world, thereby keeping all men in the line of the christian religion using the fear of hell as the ultimate weapon to achieve this feat. The bible you place all of your faith in is a thoroughly edited and over manipulated manuscript devised by the decaying roman empire, through the combinations of books, some being historical writings of enlightened men of old, and some mere formulated myths, coined together solely for the means of global domination through mental slavery for all men. That was why for 1,400 years they persecuted anyone who said or believed in anything contrary to the beliefs of Christianity, By gruesome torment or burning to a stake, Ushering in a time known as the Dark Ages, just for the sake that all men are mentally enslaved by the belief of the choice of either Christianity or eternal fire and torment for all Eternity. Jesus did not teach and NEVER taught about hell fire or eternal damnation. Go and read the old, raw and untouched book of the apostles about the life of Jesus which was recently discovered by archeologists in recent times, and you will discover a whole other story my friend. Jesus even taught extensively about re-incarnation(being born again) as the means of repayments of ones sins and evil deeds in his lifetimes, by coming on other lifetime journeys to the earth again to re pay back his negative deeds and cleanse his negative karma, and through multiple lifetimes of repayment, through suffering, misfortune and horrible events caused by the effects of the the negative karma surrounding such an individuals soul, Eventually the negative karma of that soul will be fully cleared, thereby achieving redemption and the soul will then be allowed to move into a higher state of consciousness/existence (which u can also call heaven). This is the Destiny of all Souls. NO SOUL IS DESTINED FOR ETERNAL DAMNATION, BECAUSE ALL SOULS ARE FRACTIONAL MANIFESTATIONS OF THE ULTIMATE SOUL, THE ETERNAL MULTIDIMENSIONAL CONSCIOUSNESS AND CREATOR OF ALL THINGS WHICH IS GOD, THEREFORE ALL SOULS EXISTED PRIOR TO CREATION ITSELF AND IN THE PLAN LAID DOWN FOR ALL SOULS BY THE ULTIMATE MULTIDIMENSIONAL CONSCIOUSNESS OF THE CREATOR, NO SOUL IS GIVEN MORE THAN IT CAN BEAR AND IN THE END WILL AND MUST ACHIEVE REDEMPTION FROM THE SOUL TRAP OF THE EARTH REALM, THEREBY RETURNING TO ITS ORIGINAL PURE STATE PRIOR TO CREATION, AND BECOMING ONE AGAIN WITH THE ETERNAL CREATOR. These teachings of Jesus about the doctrine of re-incarnation was thoroughly erased by the roman christian founders working with the ceaser to further Strengthen and solidify their own doctrine of an eternal state of fiery torment for the payment of ones evil deeds and which there is no Redemption or pardon for the whole of eternity just for the sins committed in just one lifetime. This is the BIGGEST LIE of all ages and people need to be aware of it. The message of Jesus, and every other enlightened Clairvoyant that came as, Jesus, Mohamed, Buddha, Zoroaster and all the rest of them was just a very simple but extremely powerful message which they all shared in common. And this message was the GOOD Message of LOVE, and You only need to Honestly with all your heart, keep doing just three things to clear your negative karma and eventually achieve redemption which is through THINKING GOOD THOUGHTS, DOING GOOD DEEDS AND SPREADING LOVE TO EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING AROUND YOU, EVERYWHERE YOU GO. LOVE is the strongest force in the universe because it was the Force the universal multidimensional consciousness in which we all call God, Used to bring all of existence and creation into being, It is the Only Force that can be used to erase the negative karma of the soul and that Force reveals itself through TRUTH. We have all been misled into thinking we know the truth, when really we are just trapped by group of people, who want us exactly where we are by taking advantage of the inner powerful force in all humans that drives us towards search for the truth about our existence, And enslaving us through that thought by making us think we know the truth, when really we have all just been misled for some selfish global world domination purposes. I Know all your bases of belief has always been in the bible which is still in all fairness not a bad manuscript to base your beliefs on, But if you really wanna Know the REAL TRUTH about the deep questions in your Heart, Go do your research very well bro And you will find out that through Knowing the Real TRUTH, You gain True Freedom.
Have a great and wonderful day bro, Remain Enlightened and blessed.

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Christianity Etc › Re: German Scientists Prove There Is Life After Death by MrMystrO(m): 12:02am On Oct 31, 2016

It cannot be stated too often that the spiritual perspective is inward and not outward. Once we leave the physical realm we will view reality inwardly and not outwardly. All that we have placed inside ourselves will act as a lens, a filter. All that we see will be seen through and be distorted by these things we have stored within ourselves. This is why it is important to remove as much clutter as possible so as not to obscure our reality. The dimensions which immediately surround the Earth have been called the mental realms by both Edgar Cayce and Rudolf Steiner. It is here we face, we inhabit, we experience what we have built into our minds as a result of our activities. It is in the mental realms where our minds embody our souls. In this reality we do not leave behind the attitudes we held in the Earth but we inhabit them. This was illustrated many times in the Cayce discourses when he said that we not only take our attitudes with us into death, but we inhabit them. They will, however, become much, much larger in death, much harder to bear, with no way to set them aside easily.

In essence, after death, Steiner said we expand into the planetary spheres. The moral disposition we carry over with us allows or prevents us from moving on in a conscious manner. After this experience, we fall asleep and the cosmic forces act directly upon us preparing us for the next earthly experience. Our cosmic sleep regenerates us. There comes a time when the desire to reincarnate starts to work on us. When that happens, we begin the process of going back through the planetary spheres picking up what we will need from each in order to fulfill our purpose in the next Earth life. The "soul kernel" is carried in to the embryo, forgets the whole trip and is born again on Earth.

In the end, our transition after death is like stepping into our own thoughts where we have existed all along. This is an inward step, so small, so natural; yet from a material perspective it is so abrupt, and so extreme. At the moment of change some of us are completely aware of what is happening, some of us only partly aware, and yet others totally unaware. Ultimately we meet and greet our own death with the same awareness and attention to detail we gave to our experiences in life.

Since taking leave of the Earth realm, we have been traveling throughout many realms of reality. In each dimension we experienced that which was helpful, in some we reviewed and evaluated our experiences, but in all we were resuscitated. The realms in which we made our temporary homes and the order in which we experienced them were exactly what we needed to complete our earthly experience, to be refreshed, renewed, and prepared for our next material adventure. Each of the realms we visited were focal points from which certain basic qualities of our being emanate. We not only worked in the unique surroundings, but we mixed with the essence of each quality of which each realm was comprised. These qualities are not external things to which we responded, but they are what we are.

The following discussion is not meant to promote an attachment to the wonder or splendor of any particular dimension of reality. All that will be given is for the better understanding of who we really are. We are the sum total of all of our experiences from the very foundations of our beginning up until this moment.

Each experience is but another thread woven into that fabric of which we are composed. No realm is any more important than another, nor is our habitation or incarnation into any realm more important than any other. Our experiences in reality are continuous and although certain happenings may seem more momentous than others, it is the accumulation of what we do with creation which is our quest. For it is only in that accumulation of experiencing the various expressions of our God that we truly fulfill our destiny. It is important to note that we carry all of our experiences into each dimension because we are the focal point of their accumulation. Further, although each dimension operates under different sets of basic laws, they are but variations of laws we already know. There is one Creator, one set of principles of life we call laws, and one direction in which to grow. The infinite variety in creation is largely due to the limitless ways in which the same things may be manifest. If we would just watch the patterns of what we know unfold before us, we would see ever so clearly the most important aspects of what seems both behind and ahead of us.

Christianity Etc › Re: Who Created Hell?? God Or Satan by MrMystrO(m): 11:48pm On Oct 30, 2016

Let us now take a detour into a yet denser reality so we can better understand another of our options upon awakening in the borderland. There are some of us who have lived our lives in such a way that we have turned completely within ourselves. We have blocked out all love, all warmth, and all spirit from our daily doings; we have created a void within and around ourselves. We chose to deny our responsibilities to others and to ourselves; we choose ourselves at all cost. Upon passing on, before we become conscious that we have entered the borderland, we swiftly move on to that realm to which our life choices in the Earth resonate. This region is void of love, life, and light, void of all of those things we cast out from our lives in the Earth. The region in which we find ourselves is approximately our wish come true. We are truly alone, with ourselves, within ourselves; it is pain beyond pain for us. Edgar Cayce described this region of void as "outer darkness." The name of this dimension describes it very accurately, as we find no love, hope, friendship, kindness, benevolence, or any of what we have come to know as human qualities. Instead there is nothing but ourselves, and it is unbearable. In the absence of that which we term "fruits of the spirit" truth, love, patience, gentleness, kindness, long-suffering, and brotherly love we fill the void with an irrational and unbelievable amount of pain and fear. It is so dark in the realm of outer darkness that the dark hurts and panic grips us without our knowing why. Like our material universe, outer darkness seems endless and without any meaningful boundaries. There is nowhere we can go to escape the agony and horror which fills almost every part of our being, and the desire to flee consumes us. The farther and faster we travel through this realm the greater the feeling that it is endless. Even outer darkness has degrees, and it is darker and denser at the center than at its outer fringes. Helen Greaves describes these degrees as hells. Likewise, this is the hell described by Emanuel Swedenborg in Heaven and Its Wonders and Hell From Things Heard and Seen. The closer we are to the outer edges, the more interaction there is with others in the realm, while the closer to the center we find ourselves, the darker and more painful we find the solitude. One who finds himself in outer darkness cannot move toward the center by force of his own motion. The center represents levels of reality and are not linear. One cannot travel across this dimension; one must grow through the levels of this realm.

Outer darkness is not one of those realms which must be overcome in stages, although we can choose that method of growth. One may find himself on a particular level after death that most closely corresponds to his activity and the degree of absence of those fruits of the spirit in his life, and there is no need to experience other levels here. No level of outer darkness is without pain and fear, but, as we have noted, the very center is the most agonizing. In the reality we call outer darkness, we have very little memory of our earthly lives. We remember little, if anything, of our earthly relationships, and we are so absorbed in pain and fear that our suffering exacts every last ounce of our attention.

This lower region of outer darkness is not a punishment. It is a region which operates lawfully for the benefit of those agonized souls. This region is not a realm which was created for any soul to experience, but one which came about as a consequence of the negative activity of souls in creation. So great has been the desire for self, so monumental across time and space has been the selfishness of some of God's creatures, that this realm is the creation or manifestation of their own collective activities. Outer darkness and the reality with which it is associated were created and are held in place by collective self-interest.

As noted previously, universal law is perfect and works for the benefit of all, all of the time. An excellent example of the law of grace is that no evil, no negativity, whether single or collective in nature, exists without a way of redemption being simultaneously imprinted by the Creative Forces throughout its fiber.

Nowhere is it more obvious than in the realm of outer darkness that no one needs to remain here beyond one's own will to do so. We might conjecture that no one wishes to suffer such misery but that simply is not so. We constantly do things on the Earth realm that cause us difficulty, unhappiness, pain, and illness. We do not wish to suffer the discomfort of our actions, but this does not keep us from those activities. In the Earth realm, as in spiritual realms, until we turn our attention from ourselves, we cannot in any way change our estate.

The occupants of outer darkness are there for various lengths of Earth time. It is peculiar to discuss length of residence by a measure which does not exist in that dimension. For most of us it is very difficult to relate to a timeless condition, so the use of finite terms helps us to better understand. Some residents feel they have been in outer darkness for weeks or months, others for eons. No doubt, all are correct in their assessment of length of time spent in this realm. In a reality of pain and torment, even a moment can seem like an eternity and there is no way to judge length of stay until after one has long departed. Doubtless, some souls have occupied outer darkness for what we would measure as hundreds, even thousands of years. But it is more likely that most stay for a considerably shorter period. It is not possible for souls to be forever confined to outer darkness since, in such a case, there would be no hope of redemption. Further, Swedenborg noted in his book, Heaven and Its Wonders and Hell from Things Heard and Seen, that it is God who keeps the balance in the realm of outer darkness so that all things would not be destroyed. Again, outer darkness is not a punishment, rather it is the ultimate manifestation of our own undoing, and he who is Mercy would never abandon us to such spiritual agony.

Romance › Re: See The Shocking Thing My Girlfriend Does At Night (viewer Disretion) 18+ by MrMystrO(m): 11:28pm On Oct 30, 2016

No you dont.

Christianity Etc › Re: The False Doctrine Of Eternal Torment And Judgement After Death(sleep) by MrMystrO(m): 10:13pm On Oct 29, 2016

TheSixthSense:
Isn't this the bestl advice? "...Go do your research with an open mind BUT before you start your research read..."

Yes, my aim of letting you have access to that particular information is so you dont wonder too Far from THE Real Truth. His writings are more like a means for you to be able to connect and be at one with your inner consciousness, which is the source of all truth, thereby giving you the wisdom when doing your research, to be able to know truth when you see it, and also be able to decipher lies when you come across such, And moreover, i have never made it compulsory or a must to see before you start on your quest to truth, its just like a guide or lending a helping hand to a man on a quest. And like every other guide, or voluntary help, you can decide to take it, or leave it, it doesn't change anything. I only suggest it to people because it helped me, and its my duty to do the same and offer a helping hand to my fellow human but as we all know, we all have different paths to take on our journey in life, so its not necessarily compulsory for anyone my brother. TRUTH must and Will always reveal itself to Everyone in due time. Stay blessed bro.

Christianity Etc › Re: The False Doctrine Of Eternal Torment And Judgement After Death(sleep) by MrMystrO(m): 9:54pm On Oct 29, 2016

solite3:
Luke 12:5 But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear[b]: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; [/b]yea, I say unto you, Fear him.

Mark 9:44 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

The fire of hell does not quench neither does its worm dies
Revelation 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

The torments never ends!

The shame and regrets never ends!

Daniel 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

You are warned Hell is real!

Luke 16:19 There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day: 16:20 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores, 16:21 And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores. 16:22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried; 16:23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. 16:24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame. 16:25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented. 16:26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence. 16:27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house: 16:28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment. 16:29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them. 16:30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent. 16:31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

I will quote the same write up i just did to a fellow brother not so long ago, and i think you deserve to hear it too.

My friend, that was not Jesus Or any of his apostles talking, that was the work of the Early roman Christians sect in association with the roman government at that time to alter the words of an enlightened man to promote the concept of eternal damnation through hell fire, In a bid at establishing Christianity as the only or dominant religion in the world, thereby keeping all men in the line of the christian religion using the fear of hell as the ultimate weapon to achieve this feat. The bible you place all of your faith in is a thoroughly edited and over manipulated manuscript devised by the decaying roman empire, through the combinations of books, some being historical writings of enlightened men of old, and some mere formulated myths, coined together solely for the means of global domination through mental slavery for all men. That was why for 1,400 years they persecuted anyone who said or believed in anything contrary to the beliefs of Christianity, By gruesome torment or burning to a stake, Ushering in a time known as the Dark Ages, just for the sake that all men are mentally enslaved by the belief of the choice of either Christianity or eternal fire and torment for all Eternity. Jesus did not teach and NEVER taught about hell fire or eternal damnation. Go and read the old, raw and untouched book of the apostles about the life of Jesus which was recently discovered by archeologists in recent times, and you will discover a whole other story my friend. Jesus even taught extensively about re-incarnation(being born again) as the means of repayments of ones sins and evil deeds in his lifetimes, by coming on other lifetime journeys to the earth again to re pay back his negative deeds and cleanse his negative karma, and through multiple lifetimes of repayment, through suffering, misfortune and horrible events caused by the effects of the the negative karma surrounding such an individuals soul, Eventually the negative karma of that soul will be fully cleared, thereby achieving redemption and the soul will then be allowed to move into a higher state of consciousness/existence (which u can also call heaven). This is the Destiny of all Souls. NO SOUL IS DESTINED FOR ETERNAL DAMNATION, BECAUSE ALL SOULS ARE FRACTIONAL MANIFESTATIONS OF THE ULTIMATE SOUL, THE ETERNAL MULTIDIMENSIONAL CONSCIOUSNESS AND CREATOR OF ALL THINGS WHICH IS GOD, THEREFORE ALL SOULS EXISTED PRIOR TO CREATION ITSELF AND IN THE PLAN LAID DOWN FOR ALL SOULS BY THE ULTIMATE MULTIDIMENSIONAL CONSCIOUSNESS OF THE CREATOR, NO SOUL IS GIVEN MORE THAN IT CAN BEAR AND IN THE END WILL AND MUST ACHIEVE REDEMPTION FROM THE SOUL TRAP OF THE EARTH REALM, THEREBY RETURNING TO ITS ORIGINAL PURE STATE PRIOR TO CREATION, AND BECOMING ONE AGAIN WITH THE ETERNAL CREATOR. These teachings of Jesus about the doctrine of re-incarnation was thoroughly erased by the roman christian founders working with the ceaser to further Strengthen and solidify their own doctrine of an eternal state of fiery torment for the payment of ones evil deeds and which there is no Redemption or pardon for the whole of eternity just for the sins committed in just one lifetime. This is the BIGGEST LIE of all ages and people need to be aware of it. The message of Jesus, and every other enlightened Clairvoyant that came as, Jesus, Mohamed, Buddha, Zoroaster and all the rest of them was just a very simple but extremely powerful message which they all shared in common. And this message was the GOOD Message of LOVE, and You only need to Honestly with all your heart, keep doing just three things to clear your negative karma and eventually achieve redemption which is through THINKING GOOD THOUGHTS, DOING GOOD DEEDS AND SPREADING LOVE TO EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING AROUND YOU, EVERYWHERE YOU GO. LOVE is the strongest force in the universe because it was the Force the universal multidimensional consciousness in which we all call God, Used to bring all of existence and creation into being, It is the Only Force that can be used to erase the negative karma of the soul and that Force reveals itself through TRUTH. We have all been misled into thinking we know the truth, when really we are just trapped by group of people, who want us exactly where we are by taking advantage of the inner powerful force in all humans that drives us towards search for the truth about our existence, And enslaving us through that thought by making us think we know the truth, when really we have all just been misled for some selfish global world domination purposes. I Know all your bases of belief has always been in the bible which is still in all fairness not a bad manuscript to base your beliefs on, But if you really wanna Know the REAL TRUTH about the deep questions in your Heart, Go do your research very well bro And you will find out that through Knowing the Real TRUTH, You gain True Freedom.

Before you start your research, (That is if you want to, and if indeed you have an open mind) You can start by examining the writings and revelations of a 20th century clairvoyant named edgar cayce about 15 important topics we all seek answers to, and his writings might serve as a Good start to understanding the fundamental Truths of the universe and Help you in your search for Real TRUTH.

This is the site here: http://www.near-death.com/paranormal/edgar-cayce.html

(only read the 15 NDEs and afterlife index of edgar cayce himself first, before the other articles)
Have a great and wonderful day bro, Remain Enlightened and blessed.

Christianity Etc › Re: The False Doctrine Of Eternal Torment And Judgement After Death(sleep) by MrMystrO(m): 9:43pm On Oct 29, 2016

Scholar8200:
Now ,sir, compare your explanation with what Jesus said here:

47 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:

48 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched
Mark 9:47,48

Do you notice any correlation or contradiction?

My friend, that was not Jesus talking, that was the work of the Early roman Christians sect in association with the roman government at that time to alter the words of an enlightened man to promote the concept of eternal damnation through hell fire, In a bid at establishing Christianity as the only or dominant religion in the world, thereby keeping all men in the line of the christian religion using the fear of hell as the ultimate weapon to achieve this feat. The bible you place all of your faith in is a thoroughly edited and over manipulated manuscript devised by the decaying roman empire, through the combinations of books, some being historical writings of enlightened men of old, and some mere formulated myths, coined together solely for the means of global domination through mental slavery for all men. That was why for 1,400 years they persecuted anyone who said or believed in anything contrary to the beliefs of Christianity, By gruesome torment or burning to a stake, Ushering in a time known as the Dark Ages, just for the sake that all men are mentally enslaved by the belief of the choice of either Christianity or eternal fire and torment for all Eternity. Jesus did not teach and NEVER taught about hell fire or eternal damnation. Go and read the old, raw and untouched book of the apostles about the life of Jesus which was recently discovered by archeologists in recent times, and you will discover a whole other story my friend. Jesus even taught extensively about re-incarnation(being born again) as the means of repayments of ones sins and evil deeds in his lifetimes, by coming on other lifetime journeys to the earth again to re pay back his negative deeds and cleanse his negative karma, and through multiple lifetimes of repayment, through suffering, misfortune and horrible events caused by the effects of the the negative karma surrounding such an individuals soul, Eventually the negative karma of that soul will be fully cleared, thereby achieving redemption and the soul will then be allowed to move into a higher state of consciousness/existence (which u can also call heaven). This is the Destiny of all Souls. NO SOUL IS DESTINED FOR ETERNAL DAMNATION, BECAUSE ALL SOULS ARE FRACTIONAL MANIFESTATIONS OF THE ULTIMATE SOUL, THE ETERNAL MULTIDIMENSIONAL CONSCIOUSNESS AND CREATOR OF ALL THINGS WHICH IS GOD, THEREFORE ALL SOULS EXISTED PRIOR TO CREATION ITSELF AND IN THE PLAN LAID DOWN FOR ALL SOULS BY THE ULTIMATE MULTIDIMENSIONAL CONSCIOUSNESS OF THE CREATOR, NO SOUL IS GIVEN MORE THAN IT CAN BEAR AND IN THE END WILL AND MUST ACHIEVE REDEMPTION FROM THE SOUL TRAP OF THE EARTH REALM, THEREBY RETURNING TO ITS ORIGINAL PURE STATE PRIOR TO CREATION, AND BECOMING ONE AGAIN WITH THE ETERNAL CREATOR. These teachings of jesus about the doctrine of re-incarnation was thoroughly erased by the roman christian founders working with the ceaser to further Strengthen and solidify their own doctrine of an eternal state of fiery torment for the payment of ones evil deeds and which there is no Redemption or pardon for the whole of eternity just for the sins committed in just one lifetime. This is the BIGGEST LIE of all ages and people need to be aware of it. The message of jesus, and every other enlightened Clairvoyant that came as, Jesus, Mohamed, Buddha, Zoroaster and all the rest of them was just a very simple but extremely powerful message which they all shared in common. And this message was the GOOD Message of LOVE, and You only need to Honestly with all your heart, keep doing just three things to clear your negative karma and eventually achieve redemption which is through THINKING GOOD THOUGHTS, DOING GOOD DEEDS AND SPREADING LOVE TO EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING AROUND YOU, EVERYWHERE YOU GO. LOVE is the strongest force in the universe because it was the Force the universal multidimensional consciousness in which we all call God, Used to bring all of existence and creation into being, It is the Only Force that can be used to erase the negative karma of the soul and that Force reveals itself through TRUTH. We have all been misled into thinking we know the truth, when really we are just trapped by group of people, who want us exactly where we are by taking advantage of the inner powerful force in all humans that drives us towards search for the truth about our existence, And enslaving us through that thought by making us think we know the truth, when really we have all just been misled for some selfish global world domination purposes. I Know all your bases of belief has always been in the bible which is still in all fairness not a bad manuscript to base your beliefs on, But if you really wanna Know the REAL TRUTH about the deep questions in your Heart, Go do your research very well bro And you will find out that through Knowing the Real TRUTH, You gain True Freedom.

Before you start your research, (That is if you want to, and if indeed you have an open mind) You can start by examining the writings and revelations of a 20th century clairvoyant named edgar cayce about 15 important topics we all seek answers to, and his writings might serve as a Good start to understanding the fundamental Truths of the universe and Help you in your search for Real TRUTH.

This is the site here: http://www.near-death.com/paranormal/edgar-cayce.html
(only read the 15 NDEs and afterlife index of edgar cayce himself first, before the other articles)
Have a great and wonderful day bro, Remain Enlightened and blessed.

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Christianity Etc › Re: 4 Kids Dumped At Abak Bridge, Akwa Ibom After Pastor Branded Them Witches(Pics) by MrMystrO(m): 9:08pm On Oct 28, 2016

Dont allow religion mislead you into the path of ignorance my friends, find the ultimate truth here: http://www.near-death.com/paranormal/edgar-cayce/future.html

Christianity Etc › Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by MrMystrO(m): 6:53pm On Oct 28, 2016*

kolaish:
Thanks for the beautiful and comprehensive write up. Christianity to me comes naturally, fascinating and above all, my source of joy. I have been blessed most tremendously as a christian despite the little I have done for the church and humanity, I still want to do more for christ, the church and of course, humanity. Stay blessed

Thank you so much my friend, and you too. May you experience joy and freedom while here on your earthly journey and may the source of the inner multidimensional consciousness Of all things, Which is LOVE and TRUTH reveal and express itself to you and through you in All Abundance.
(Still feel free to check out the link i posted the other time if you may, Through curiosity or just for leisure.)
Have a blessed day friend.

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Christianity Etc › Re: This Post Made Me Have A Deep Thought About Religion [PHOTOS] by MrMystrO(m): 4:56pm On Oct 27, 2016

HitlerGaddafi:
http://www.ethicalatheist.com/docs/questions_for_god.html

Nice one bro, The bible is not the basis for understanding God, because it was coined by the limited understanding of man, thats why there were always prone to be errors in the bible. But God exists, but we just cant comprehend its multidimensional consciousness which actually, is in every single one of us because we are all a part of that great divine multidimensional consciousness which can reveal itself to you of you really look deep enough within you. Only clairvoyants are lucky enough to have access to this multidimensional consciousness more than most of us do, and these are the enlightened men of old which people now worship as saviors now. You can check out the teachings of a 20th century clairvoyant named edgar cayce and his answers to 15 fundamental questions all humans ask. I'm sure you are a very intelligent person so Just keep an open mind and let your divine inner multidimensional consciousness guide you to deciphering if his words are wrong, Or if you perceive truth in his sayings.

This is the site: http://www.near-death.com/paranormal/edgar-cayce.html
(Read only the 15 NDEs and afterlife index of edgar cayce himself and not the other articles there that were not written by him.)
Hope you find some useful information there bro.

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Christianity Etc › Re: This Post Made Me Have A Deep Thought About Religion [PHOTOS] by MrMystrO(m): 4:37pm On Oct 27, 2016

Wilgrea7:
most of your questions can be answered... that's if you're open minded enough to receive d answer

Yes they can be answered but not through the thoroughly modified and edited compilation of books of history and myths called the bible, but by the Honest search and sincere Quest For the Real TRUTH.

Christianity Etc › Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by MrMystrO(m): 3:52pm On Oct 27, 2016*

kolaish:
Sorry I just saw your write up, have been busy in my workplace. Beside Adam and Eve, there are those called the sons of God, actually they are falling angels on earth that came to mingle with humans -

Genesis 6:4: The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the sons of God went in to the daughters of humans, who bore children to them. These were the heroes that were of old, warriors of renown.

Lol are you kidding me? Fallen sons of God?? That's your best attempt at trying to explain such an obvious fallacy? Well it doesn't even come close to answering the question and let me explain why.
Now prior to the so called fallen sons coming down to the earth to mingle with humans, According to the bible, thats if we were to stick to the biblical account of creation, The only Humans living on earth at that time were Adam, eve, cain, abel who was already dead, and seth.
Now the bible says, these fallen sons of God Came down to earth to Mingle with the "DAUGHTERS OF MEN" and they bore children to them.
Please, YOU STILL HAVEN'T EVEN COME CLOSE TO ANSWERING MY QUESTION!! Daughters of which men? Adam? who never had a daughter? eve, who only begat three sons? or Cain and seth who were supposed to be the first children of the first humans on earth? You dont need anybody to tell you that this is a flawed Story written by a limited human mind because if you wanna be honest with yourself on this issue, the only way the world would have been populated by just these four people on earth is on the basis that cain or seth had carnal knowledge of their mum who eventually begat another female so reproduction can continue, And that, my friend, was not recorded in the bible. So, It all leads to just another simple question, Daughters of men(Not daughter o, daughters of men) By whom? which men? Or were there other men on earth b4 adam was created? There you have it. The story contradicts itself every time, The questions never end, And That, is not what Truth is based on. Truth is obvious, its self explanatory, self revealing and it reveals itself in all dimensions.

Beside this, the list of witnesses to Jesus Christ is overwhelming, that is, besides the prophet of old like Moses, David etc and his disciples’ narration, if you go to the roman museums, you will still see some of the stories in their archives, not to talk of spiritual manifestations that I myself have seen and heard. For example, I heard the voice of the holy spirit clearly when I want to choose my wife twelve years ago. I marveled some years ago while I was in Jerusalem that all the biblical stories are still intact and they are sites to behold. My brother, fabricated stories cannot be these real; from Tower of David to mount of olives, the dead sea, pool of Bethsaida etc.

The bible, is a compilation of books, different stories from different times, Some were actual historic events that actually happened, While some on the other hand, like the story of adam and eve and creation, are simply based on myths. Even the fomer pope, had once admitted that the story of adam and eve is a fable(you can google it online) The romans compiled these books together, After thorough editing, manipulation and modification, to suit the Roman agenda of public control, And then forcefully compelled the general public to accept the bible as the manual for how the lives of men should be lived, And then for over 1,400 years, crushed and persecuted any one or any group practicing another belief, any one who as much as just says something contrary to the beliefs of the bible was burned to a stake, And this was done so that in later times(which are the times we are in now) Christianity, if not being the only religion on earth, Will be the most recognized and most popular belief system for men, Which is just generally a device for mental slavery and through the concept of hell and eternal damnation, Makes sure everyone stays in line.. Dont just read something and believe simply because people say its true, your fathers believed in it so you just have to, its way more than that my friend. Truth, is always and will always be available to you because it is self revealing. I will advice you to do your research very well, try and find the untouched unedited versions of the writings of the prophets, or of the apostles about jesus and you find a whole other different story my friend. Jesus was a manifestation of Love here on earth and just like every other messiah in every religion of this world, his sole message was Love, and to make us understand that with love, as a collective group, if we can all love our fellow humans as we do to ourselves, we can all attain the infinite God consciousness which was what he achieved here on earth, and only then can we be able to eliminate all forms of evil such as war, famine, money, racism, tribalism and all other forces that are hindering humanity from its spiritual evolution. With Love, we can take away all these, thereby building a new world for ourselves which is a world of no suffering, no war, no hunger, no money, no work. Just joy and happiness for everyone living in it. I'm sure all this might be new to you and i am not in anyway saying you should just dump your religion because it was all based on a man made cause, But all i am saying is honestly do your research on the true meaning, values and objectives of your religion, while also doing a thorough research on the true meaning of the values, objectives, message and purpose of the man we call jesus(Not with the over modified texts in the book you call the bible, but through the raw untouched writings of his disciples about him) And you will find a huge contrast between the two, Then you can dig deep into your inner consciousness, the ultimate source of everything, that is inside you, That consciousness which we call God, To enlighten you on which of these two is the Truth. You might not understand what i mean by your inner divine consciousness, but sometimes names and language acts like a barrier to understanding some basic truths. When you heard the voice of the holy spirit twelve years ago which helped you in making the choice of your wife, That "Voice" is exactly the same thing which i am Calling your inner divine, multidimensional God consciousness, Which reveals things beyond the physical to you when you are deeply connected to it, And its the only Real source to Finding truth. That was was jesus was filled with because he was deeply connected and in tune with his inner multidimensional God consciousness, And when you achieve such a state, you become a perfect symbol of Truth and Love i.e. You become a manifestation of God as a Man. Very Few people have achieved that state and in modern English, they are called clairvoyants. This is the state and Destiny of all humans to achieve. This was what jesus wanted everyone in this world to be like and achieve, NOT to Worship him. For a start i'll leave you with a link to a site of a clairvoyant named edgar cayce, who lived almost a century ago, and if you know what a clairvoyant means, you will do well to check out his messages on 15 important topics all humans seek answers to. Just be open minded and check it out, if your inner mind doesn't accept it as truth, Then neglect it at once. But if there are some things you think he was right about, then embrace them because truth needs no one to tell you that it is, we all have it in our inner multidimentional God consciousness to determine what is true and what is wrong.

This is the link: http://www.near-death.com/paranormal/edgar-cayce.html

(Only read the 15 NDEs and afterlife index of edgar cayce himself, and not the other articles)
All you need, is to Keep an open mind brother and be sure you are very very close to the truth already. Have a great day bro

Christianity Etc › Re: I Think I'm Losing My Belief by MrMystrO(m): 10:32am On Oct 27, 2016

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TheSixthSense:
I highlighted your frequent use of consciousness Again, I would suggest you go down to the roots of this New Age consciousness thing you are talking about and see if you will be able to practice it in its pure mystical form.

[b]Jesus Christ is life and truth and He is right.

Well, My Good friend, I think this is where we come to the end of our discussion on this matter because i was wrong about you, which was for thinking that you had a liberal mind, But i can now tell you are still trapped in the confines of religion, which are exactly the kind of people i avoid at all costs, not because i despise them, or because i dont think they are right in what they are doing(Religion isnt exactly All wrong, there's still some good in it) But because, I still consider religion a form of mental slavery, and i Place my spirituality, and my Beliefs OUTSIDE of it. We can never come to a conclusion that has to do with anything outside your religion so why bother? Its all the same in all religions
You will stand with all belief and faith that jesus christ is right, and He is the truth. A Muslim will stand with even more belief and say Mohamed is right, and is the truth. A Buddhist will also stand with all his might on the solid belief that Buddha, or Maitreya is right and is the truth. Its all the same thing to me, i cannot contradict anyone's belief, to me you are Good christian who was probably born and raised a christian or better still found Christianity later in life and held it as the ultimate truth. Why would i try to convince you otherwise Not to practice your religion? i cannot Do that. But i can tell you something my friend. If you look through the veils of religion which has made it seem like we are all on a different path and we are all practicing different things, you will find out that every one of these saviors, Buddha, jesus, mohhamed, Zoroaster and all the rest all Had a particular message in common, which i think is the fundamental TRUTH behind every religion before it was altered by man for population control purposes, and that Message is Love. The infinite multidimentional mind brought about existence With the power of Love and that was the message These enlightened men thought, Before they were corrupted by the world government thousands of years ago and edited and edited and edited over again, adding such concepts as hell to instill fear in the human mind so you dont wonder too far astray from your particular religion, and thats why someone who believes in a certain religion will argue and cast down someone from another religion not knowing that its all basically the same message. Like i said, truth doesnt hide because its force is like that of light, WHICH exposes all things, And Love is the Only truth my friend, and it is The most powerful and the most eternal force there ever is, And that is exactly just what We humans need, Not religion, not tribalism, not money, nothing Else, Just love alone is enough to transform the earth and unite all humans regardless of religion, race or tribe.

With Jesus Christ one can never go wrong. Never. 'If we hoped for Christ in this life only we are most of all men miserable' (1 Cor 15:19). We cannot both claim to have the truth that are parallels. Either one isn't.

This your 'truth' you aren't the first to discover it and many people have left it rather saved by Jesus Christ from it. I hope it becomes much clearer to you to find out every detail about it.

Lol you cannot discover light and Go back to the Dark my friend, it doesnt work that way. Jesus was an enlightened man, He thought the message of Love, Real selfless love, and thats all i ever believe in. For someone who was so selfless i dont think his main priority was for anyone to worship him, But for all humans to Find God, And achieve the state of God consciousness like he did, Through the power of Love.
I Was born a christian, i read the bible everyday to the end b4 i got to the age of 12 and repented for three years, i was a "Good christian". But then like i said, Truth always reveals itself and then when i realized and discovered how edited and how very much manipulated the book we call the bible is, i had to start on my search for Truth, i read countless original documents and scriptures which was used in the bible and thoroughly edited by the romans to fit their political ambitions and that was when i realized what the true aim of establishing religion was, A Means of Public Control!! Jesus NEVER wanted it that way, the romans did. You will be really amazed when you read the original untouched teachings of the apostles about the life of jesus and find a whole other different story my friend. The world we are living in is a world of control, and religion, just like other institutions have been corrupted by the rulers of this earth to keep the minds of the people at bay, which is not what jesus, or any other saviour would have wanted my friend.

I have not denied your right to your opinion or freedom of worship. I cannot do that. I only advise from little of what I know. Using the term truth here leads to ambiguity. Let's use knowledge as replacement for truth. For what you currently consider knowledge, there is a higher knowledge in Jesus Christ. No other is above Jesus Christ. I am not saying I am right and you are wrong but my faith and hope is in Jesus Christ and He is truth.

Knowledge, Is not And can Never be Truth, you know why? Because knowledge is not self revealing, it does Not remain The same, And it has to be Learnt or thought. Through time all knowledge evolve and new knowledge can come and take its place, thereby disproving what people then might call knowledge because the new knowledge is better and more reasonable, But TRUTH does not change, TRUTH Does not have to be thought because Truth is Self revealing. Jesus Found truth even in the midst of the beliefs of the saducees, the pharisees and the Romans because Truth is and will always be self Revealing, Even b4 the age of 12, He was already enlightened in what He felt and knew was the truth and didnt believe in the teachings which were layed down for all jews to believe in, which is exactly the situation i am in right now with u, Because i have found the truth, i know it from deep down inside me, and it wasnt thought to me by anyone, but my inner divine consciousness. So i expect you react this way, its normal.
Questions for you to ponder on

Does your consciousness tell you about the afterlife? Does your consciousness tell you about divine judgement? or is it all about providing an illusory positivity in this life only?

Yes, My consciousness tells me about the after life, it revealed itself to me that we are on a spiritual journey on this earth, a journey of Learning and Growth for the soul so we can progress to another higher dimension of Existence so much higher than the one we are in now. And the requirements for your soul to achieve a higher level of consciousness and existence is not as much as religion claims it is, but by just these three things, Thinking good thoughts, doing Good deeds, and SPREADING LOVE TO EVERYONE AROUND YOU, WHEREVER YOU GO. Most souls/consciousness are still on a low stage in their spiritual developments that is why they are prone to evil deeds and all manner of despicable acts while here on their journey on earth, But but the reward for such a soul is NOT ETERNAL DAMNATION, NO! Karma exists and all souls that have been so lost in the act of evil here on earth will come back again on another journey to earth, to repay all the sins and evil deeds he has done in his past lives, it might take up to 100 lifetimes, 200, 500, or even more lifetimes for him to repay his negative karma but eventually he will pay it off completely and then progress to the next phase of higher existence than this one, which the enlightened men of old called heaven. No soul, is given more than it can bear and all souls must and will achieve redemption, There is no eternal condemnation, only a finite repayment of one's negative deeds which is why we were born anyway, to learn and to grow and at the end, become one with the eternal multidimensional conscious creator. Thank you so much for your time sir, this is the last of my posts, Have a great day.

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