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omosuper:
I was a member of Tijaniyyah, I knew it's a cult that is why I left,

dominique:
What exactly is your point? Husbands are also guilty of every single thing you mentioned up there. Maybe we just overlook the men sleep around, abuse their wives to the point that they're more or less doormats, maltreat the help, fight with neighbours and have illegitimate children without the wive's knowledge. After all, it's their world we're only living in it.

inemani:
Another yeye thread begging for Nairaland's boys' bashing!

Newnas:
Who are the Prophet's household?
They are the people who are prohibited from eating sodaqah. They are the Prophet's wives, offspring and every believer in the offspring of AbdulMuttalib (the grandfather of the Prophet alyhissolaat wassalaam)
The evidence for including the uncles of the Prophet (i.e children of AbdulMuttalib) is the hadith that two of the Prophet's cousins (Ibn Abbass and AbdulMuttalib great grandson of AbdulMuttalib went to the Messenger of Allah requesting him to put them in charge of sodaqah so that they would use their payment to get married. The messenger alyhissolaat wassalaam said to them: Indeed sodaqah isn't fit for the household: it is the filth of the people.
The evidence for including his wives is Surah Ahzab 32-34:
O wives of the Prophet! You are not like any other women. If you keep your duty (to Allah), then be not soft in speech, lest he in whose heart is a disease (of hypocrisy, or evil desire for adultery, etc.) should be moved with desire, but speak in an honourable manner.
And stay in your houses, and do not display yourselves like that of the times of ignorance, and perform As-Salat (IqamatasSalat), and give Zakat and obey Allah and His Messenger. Allah wishes only to remove ArRijs (evil deeds and sins, etc.) from you, O members of the family (of the Prophet SAW), and to purify you with a thorough purification.
And remember (O you the members of the Prophet's family, the Graces of your Lord), that which is recited in your houses of the Verses of Allah and AlHikmah (i.e. Prophet's Sunnah legal ways, etc. so give your thanks to Allah and glorify His Praises for this Quran and the Sunnah). Verily, Allah is Ever Most Courteous, WellAcquainted with all things.
(English - Mohsin Khan)
via iQuran
This verse shows that the wives are included undoubtedly, because the verses before are talking about nothing but the wives.
The evidence for including the offsprings is that the messenger alyhissolaat wassalaam included them in the household as reported by Muslim (2424).
However, the love honour of the members of the household is a secondary to the honour of Eeman. If a member of the household disbelieves such as Abu Lahab then his lineage wouldn't help him in the sight of Allah.
Some members of the household also deserve increased love and honour because they also have the virtue of being sahabah (companions) such as Ali, Aishah, Fatima, Abdullah bn Abbaas Hassan, Hussein etc.
Those of them who are not companions also deserve love and honour with the condition that they are believers.
The messenger of Allah alyhissolaat wassalaam: I remind you with Allah regarding my household (three times).
Imam Ibn Taymiyyah may Allah have mercy on him said in aqeedatul waasitiyyah:
They (people of sunnah) love the household of the Prophet alyhissolaat wassalaam and support them, and they preserve the admonition of the messenger of Allah.
In summary, loving the household is an obligation and a part of Eeman.
However the fact that the household have some rights and virtues doesn't negate the virtues and right of other believers especially the companions who protected the religion with their wealth and blood.
Two sects went astray regarding the rights of the householdf
First are the Rafida or Shia, who went extreme in their love till they raised them beyond their status, the most misguided of them even raise Ali above the prophet alyhissolaat wassalaam.
The second group are the Nasibi who curse and insult the household.

hungryboy:
Baba Adeboye is now preaching from his own personal Bible oh,
Even Jesus christ sef been keep beard

Demmzy15:
..Yeebhoe drug peddler. He's time would soon be up(Indonesia tins)..

greetings:
Let's be moderate, let's accommodate, let's be respectful, you think you're better than the next person? You don't know if your last deeds is the ones that will make you lose your path. Likewise, you that think you are the worst, your last deed might be the one that will lead you to jannah. Never lose hope in the mercy of Allah..... and never be arrogant lest Allah shows you how stupid you really are.

Believe2061:
From your post I am worried about the condition of your leftover reasoning... I guess u should be sent to the psychiatric hospital too for ur irrational writeup. It's an extremely free world we live in, and that is why your kind still has a good number of fingers, enough to type thrash on NL

EgunMogaji:
Do all men produce sperm and all women ovulate?

lexiconkabir:
Lol, i never understood why you detested the shi'a so much until i became frequent in this islam section.......may Allah bring them back to As-siratal mustakeem cuz thats the important thing, Amin.

Newnas:
Aameen!
The Jahmiyyah sect are the first sect to deny the names and attributes of Allah, they claimed that Allah has no sight, hearing, cannot speak, is not above, below anywhere, he has no life and doesn't speak etc they denied all the attributes of Allah except the attribute of existence and affirming the attribute of existence is far from sufficient to make one a believer because even the pre-Islamic polytheists of makkah also affirmed it.
It was pioneered by Jahm bn Sofwaan, he travelled to India, argued with atheistic philosophers, was asked many questions he couldn't comprehend and that threw him into confusion and led him astray.
After them, many other sects were born such as the ashaa'era, mu'tazilah, maaturidiyyah etc, they all tried to rectify the errors of the jahmiyyah sect only to create another misguidance because they based their principles on philosophy and human intellect instead of submitting to the understanding of the salaf i.e pious predecessors (companions and those who follow them in goodness). So any attribute of Allah that contradicts their intellect they simply deny it or change its meaning especially the ashari sect.
Most of these sects are not in existence today among learned people (i.e not many people associate themselves to these sects by name) although most of their tenets and ideologies are still present in one form or the other among the general Muslims out of ignorance and negligence of learning the proper Tawheed.
Except the Ash'aree sect which is still very common today even among scholars especially in Egypt. And you will notice this among those who travel to Egypt to study.
Until recently when Saudi Arabia started having impact on Africa, most African Muslims were Ash'aree in Aqeedah. If you revise the books of Aqeedah used in markaz Agege for instance you will see that it's pure Ash'aree aqeedah because sheikh Adam studied and lived for long in Egypt.
The same thing applies if you look at the common book of tafseer among our elders i.e Tafseer Jalaalyn by Imam Jalaaludeen Suyootee and his teacher, you will see that they are Conc. Ash'aree loaded. This was the common tafseer until now that we have Ibn Katheer and Tobariyy etc
I'll try to create a thread on it in shaa Allah, I ask Allah to make it easy.

Newnas:
Thanks so much, I really missed the forum too.
I got married and also relocated so I have been busy settling down and putting things in place.
Don't mind those zombies. I ask Allah to turn to them in repentance. The Shia and Jahmiyyah sects, I don't know which is more misguided. Though the scholars almost agree that they are the worst of all the deviant sects. in fact most scholars don't recognize them as one of the misguided 72 sects in Islam, many scholars regard them as another religion entirely.

Newnas:
on the authority of Jabir bn AbdiLLaah (may Allah be pleased with him and his father) that he heard the Messenger of Allah alyhissolaat wassalaam saying in the year of conquest (i.e conquest of makkah), while he was in makkah "Indeed Allah and his Messenger alyhissolaat wassalaam have forbidden the trade of of alcohol, and dead animals (that died without proper Islamic slaughtering), and pigs, and idols" so it was said: oh messenger of Allah, inform us about the fat of dead animals, because indeed it's used to paint ships, and used to oil leather skins, and the people use it as illumination (i.e lamp) he alyhissolaat wassalaam said "No, it's forbidden" then the messenger of Allah alyhissolaat wassalaam said after that "may Allah curse the Jews, indeed when Allah forbade it's fat upon them they melted it then sold it and consumed it's income".
Reported by Bukharee (2236), Muslim (1581), Abu Dawood (3486), Tirmidhi (1297), Ibn Majah (2168), Nasai (4683).
See also Bulughul maram by Ibn Hajar (735) and it's explanation in Imam San'aani's subul salam.

lexiconkabir:
^^ lol, i will insha Allah write that of Umar bin Khattab(r.a)

ShiaMuslim:
please show where any of our scholars said categorically that "bestiality or s e x with animals" is not haram. not what to do to the person or the animal if people are caught in the act. (there is a difference). but that the act itself is not haram. expose your ignorance.
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ShiaMuslim:
you sound mad...you are stupid...

Tellemall:
You seem genuinely touched by the killing of these chicks.
I do not share the same empathy for these chicks.
But I like your passion for them. Your shock is so shocking!
But, like I said, CULLING is CULLING. It's the same way people abort (I do not justify that) when they feel they cannot cater to the needs of the coming child. However, these are just chickens. It may be criminal, but they aren't humans. Several reasons warrant that culling .
I'm not sure if the company who owns the chickens should be the one searching for buyers of the chicks. Buyers should be the ones looking for them. And I guess there is no market for such fragile creatures that doesn't bring more expenses to the companies that produce these eggs.
@Boyedex, I brought out the technical name for a simple process that is continuously going on. If we rear too many chickens they say we're contributing to GHGs. If we save us the pain of that, they say it's cruelty! I don't need to address the economic and environmental demerits of keeping those male chicks alive. It's not good for business keeping them alive, or they would have been kept alive.
Even the government supports culling in certain instances, so I do not see what they would expect one to do with excess chickens. There's only one way to cull and you know it. Or shall we introduce gas chambers for these feathered friends? Or do we line them up, one for Monday and two for Tuesday, because that's not a mass killing?
But have you cared for humans facing genocide, Boyedex, rather than reminding me that CULLING, of all necessary things, is criminal?

Boyedex:
You simply brought out the technical term for this process and unfortunately that changes nothing. Yes it's culling. But how was the culling done? Just so you know, there are ethical issues surrounding how you handle animals in saner climes. You don't just gather a group of "unwanted" birds and shred them alive in the name of culling. You can be prosecuted . That's what the op is talking about and that's what you should address.

Tellemall:
You should direct this righteous indignation to humans facing genocide in Nigeria, since saving chicks that will end up in pots anyway is not worth it. Or will the chickens show you gratitude as cockerels on your barbecue?

Tellemall:
Yes, I called it that.
It's CULLING. It's what any reasonable people do when fauna population exceed bearable limits. It's a waste of resources breeding such chicks till maturity when one doesn't run a butchery

Tellemall:
Don't tell me you don't kill flies or mosquitoes.

Tellemall:
But what steps have you taken in rehabilitating these soon to be extinct male chicks ( that sounds funny)?

mbhs139:
Animal Communities
The Quran describes that animals form communities, just as humans do:
"There is not an animal that lives on the earth, nor a being that flies on its wings, but they form communities like you. Nothing have we omitted from the Book, and they all shall be gathered to their Lord in the end"
If someone kills a sparrow for sport, the sparrow will cry out on the Day of Judgment, “O Lord! That person killed me in vain! He did not kill me for any useful purpose” (Sunnan An Nasai)
The Prophet, may the mercy and blessings of God be upon him, said, “Whoever kills a sparrow or anything bigger than that without a just cause, God will hold him accountable on the Day of Judgment.” The listeners asked, “O Messenger of God, what is a just cause?” He replied, “That he will kill it to eat, not simply to chop off its head and then throw it away” (Sunnan An Nasai).
Islam expects humankind to treat all animals (all living creatures - birds, sea creatures, and insects) with respect and dignity. Prophet Muhammad continuously advised people to show kindness. He forbade the practice of cutting tails and manes of horses, of branding animals at any soft spot, and of keeping horses saddled unnecessarily. “Fear God in your treatment of animals” (Abu Dawood).
However, refraining from physical cruelty is not enough; abstaining from mental cruelty is equally as important. Even a bird’s emotional distress should be treated seriously. One of Prophet Muhammad’s companions narrates, “We were on a journey and during the Prophet’s absence, we saw a bird with its two chicks; we took them. The mother bird was circling above us in the air, beating its wings in grief. When Prophet Muhammad returned he said, “Who has hurt the feelings of this bird by taking its chicks? Return them to her”
In pre Islamic times, pagan superstitions and polytheistic practices included acts of torture and cruelty to animals. Islam condemned this and put a stop to all such practices. When Prophet Muhammad and his companions migrated to Medina, they noticed that people cut off camels’ humps and the fat tails of sheep for food. The Prophet forbade them from them from doing this and said, “Whatever is cut off an animal while it is still alive, is carrion and is unlawful to eat.” (At-Tirmidhi)
In Islam, the rules pertaining to slaughtering animals are very strict and fixed. Protecting animals from pain and undue suffering is paramount.
“God has ordained kindness (and excellence) in everything. If the killing (of animals) is to be done, do it in the best manner, and when you slaughter, do it in the best manner by first sharpening the knife, and putting the animal at ease.” (Saheeh Muslim)
"When you set your dog (for the chase), mention the name of God if he catches the game, and you reach it while it is still alive, cut, its throat quickly (so it won’t suffer)” (Saheeh Bukhari & Muslim)