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SamuelAnyawu:
Cramjones isn't Fani Kayode truly

Don't be deceived by the post. FFK is cramjones. Maybe someone is handling his account for him now or he posted this from the EFCC detention.

Farmerforlife:
Joining issues with you is obviously going to be a waste of time as you are deliberately trying to conflate issues and prolong the argument by intentionally misinterpreting what I state or looking for little tidbits of semantic flaws in my statements. Where a mistype of 'the prophet (ﷺ) abrogated it' becomes a basis for a 2 paragraph refutation, even though you very well understand that I meant that Allah abrogated it during the prophet's lifetime....duuh.
Secondly, at no point did Umar (ra) state that the verse of rajm was in the Quran until his khilafah, only that the the propht (ﷺ) stoned and Abubakr (ra) and he also stoned. The verse was lifted during the time if the prophet (ﷺ).
Next, numbering the verses is not a bidaa in the Salafist school of thought or any other. I do not expect you to understand the concept of bidaa, and you did not disappoint me. How could a shiite know about bidaa?
Lol at your demands for authentic shia hadith. There are simply none. In 12 centuries, the shia leaders have never compiled a book of hadith that they consider to be authentic. There are two explanations for these, either all your Ayatollahs are too lazy or busy sharing people's salaries of which they steal one fifth as khumus, or they are deliberately doing so to reserve the right to authenticate today and weaken tomorrow as they please, while keeping their laity in the dark. Pls dont ask me about authentic shia hadith again, because there are none. If you want shia stories about the Quran tahreef by the sahabah, read atTabrasi's 'scholarly' book quoting two thousand of these (by his own reckoning). Your apologist 'Ayatollah' Kamal Hydari has stated in a youtube video recently that there are more shia narrations proving the tahreef of the Quran than there are proving the imamah. I watched Qazwini also stating that the verses had been changed by the sahabah, and he even gave the 'right' recitation of the verse. Practically all your leaders believe this, and you know it, and I notice that you refuse to tell us what your leaders say concerning those who state that the Quran has been corrupted.
We are getting nowhere with this. Obviously, your agenda is to create doubt and shubuhaat in the minds of Muslims and attract unwary people to your creed of polytheism and vulgarity. For this, I have only one thing to say to you, the prophet (ﷺ) was not sent to take us out of idol worship to imam worship, but to monotheism. Nor did he promise that the way to paradise is by legalising promiscuity, lying and emotional orgies of self flagellation, head banging and shedding of copious quantities of crocodile tears. All your 11 'imams' were Sunni scholars who followed the sunnah of the prophet (ﷺ) and the khulafaa arRashideen after him.

Jazakumullah khaeran my brother.

Please, I'll advice u not to join issue with him(Albaqir) except when it is neccessary to make clarification in order to protect people from being misled by his antics. Don't give him attention at all. He is a chronic shia. He has called Abubakr, Umar, Uthman, Aisha and other prominent Sahaba(R.A. Ajmain) munafiqun here times without number. He has rained curses on them here several times.

He is only looking unsuspecting muslims to deceive into his shi'ism. It's better not to give him attention at all so that all his evil plans would just die naturally within few minutes.

If you want to know more about him, just check his account profile. Check all his topics and post. You'll see all the evils he has said about the noble Companions and wives of the Prophet(SAW). He has accused Aisha and Hafsah(R.A.) of poisoning the Prophet(SAW) to death simply because they are daughters of Abubakr and Umar(R.A).

Please, just avoid him.

Jazakumullah khaeran once again for your contributions.

TheDevilIsALai:
Saraki approached a federal high court to stop his trial before the CCT citing the acquittal of Bola Tinubu by the same court for the same offence and on the same technical grounds of arraignment by the CCB and EFCC joint investigators.

The federal high Court rightfully threw out saraki's motion and pronounced that Tinubu's acquittal was an error by the CCT tribunal hearing his case.

What this means is that Tinubu's acquittal no longer stands and as such he can be rearriagned for the same offence all over again.

The possibility of Tinubu facing similar fate like saraki in the near future is thus inevitable.

I foresee either Buhari using the same CCT trial to check Tinubu when they inevitably fall out or a scenario when this govt is kicked out in 2019, Tinubu will surely face the CCT.

Tinubu in your blind silly ambitious rage to control the Senate you have shot yourself in the foot by opening up a can of worms.

Hmmm!

muhamadnur:
-8-Muatah. “Mutah” translates literally to “pleasure” in Arabic. In the Shia context, Mutah refers to a “temporary marriage.” A man pays a woman a sum of money (i.e. a so-called “dowry”) and he can have sexual relations with her for however long they agree for in the Mutah contract. The Mutah time period can be as little as one night, or even one hour–enough time for the man to do the sexual act. For all intents and purposes, Mutah is prostitution: a man pays a sum of money in order to have sexual relations with a woman. Al-Kafi is one of the four Shia books of Hadith; of the four, it is considered the most authoratative and authentic. We read one such Sahih Hadith, in which the Imam says:“One who engages in Mutah once in his lifetime reaches the status of Imam Al-Hussain. One who engages in it twice becomes equal in status to Imam Al-Hasan. The one who performs it three times reaches the position of Imam Ali. And he who practices it four times acquires the level and position of the Prophet Muhammad.” (Furoo al-Kafi) The Iranian government recently passed legislation which created legal LovePeddler- houses, brothels which would be officially liscensed under law as “Chastity Houses.” Such a name is of course the epitome of Orwellian terminology, and the irony of the name should not be lost to anyone.

Hmmm!

@OP. Thanks for the enlightenment. Jazakumullah khaeran.

Hmmm!

Hmmm!
Jazakumullah khaeran for sharing.

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Newnas:
The hypocrite always leaves a backdoor for escape.
Any hadith that can't be twisted is automatically weak and fabricated.
But the hadith you twisted to support your misguidance on mut'ah, they are authentic abi?
Double standard!

@bolded. This really got me cracking!

Masha Allah my brother!

Rafidi:
if the two choose to do something, who will punish married couple in their bedroom? the woman is halal for the man and he too is halal for her. since marriage is a halal act and it brought them together, what two of them do is under the roof of marriage which is HALAL

Your foolish statements here show your thinking is not different from that of a Kufar!

There are many things married couples can do in their bedrooms that Allah(SWT) has made haram. One of such is for the husband to have sex with his wife when she is menstruating.

Allah(SWT) says:
“They ask you concerning the menstruation (mahîd). Say: It is a hurt, so keep away from women in their menstruation. Do not approach them until they become clean. Then, when they purify themselves, then go unto them as to where Allah has commanded you. Truly Allah loves the penitent and He loves those who purify themselves.” [Sûrah al-Baqarah: 222]

Can you see your life again! Deliberately going against Allah's injuctions! I arrest my case!

Rafidi:
those hadiths you give me are for you. not for me.

Can you see your life? The ahadith from the Prophet(SAW) are not for you! No wonder the scholars of Islam consider you people Kufar(unbelievers)!

I arrest my case!

AlBaqir:
Empiree I expect you to regulate things not engaging in derailment which MrOlai and his likes are known for. MrOlai himself opened a thread on Anal se.x and if anybody has anything to submit, the thread is still very much open. You guys have messed up this thread derailing at will. Where are the basic rules and guidelines - from Quran, and even Nairaland on debates?!
Here's the thread MrOlai opened on Anal se.x
https://www.nairaland.com/2862905/islamic-ruling-sexual-intercourse-ones
Brothers ShiaMuslim and Rafidi please stop dragging things with MrOlai. Imam Ali (as) gives warning (see the attached pix).
WA Salam alaykum

Pele!

Rafidi:
the point of Shia Islam is that a married couple can choose how to derive pleasure form themselves as far as harm is not caused. the case of anal is that it is makrooh (undesirable) but not haram (forbidden) if the couple both consent.
what is the stance of the Holy Quran on anal intercourse? is it a "no no" question? or a matter of conscience?
"Your wives (are) a tilth for you, so come (to) your tilth when you wish, and send forth (good deeds) for yourselves. And be conscious (of) Allah and know that you (will) meet Him. And give glad tidings (to) the believers." (Holy Quran 2:223)

Another agent of shaytan! ...misinterpreting Allah's word!

Below are clear statements from the Prophet(SAW) on that verse of the Quran:

There are many saheeh ahaadeeth which show that anal intercourse is haraam. Anal intercourse with one's wife is a major sin in Islam.

The Prophet SAWS (Peace & Blessings of Allah be upon Him) cursed the one who does this: "Cursed is the one who approaches his wife in her rectum" (Reported by Imaam Ahmad, 2/479; see also Saheeh al-Jaami', 5865)

It was narrated from Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The one who has intercourse with his wife in her back passage has disavowed himself of that which was revealed to Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).” Narrated by Abu Dawood (3904); classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood.

It was narrated that Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Allaah will not look at a man who has intercourse with a woman in her back passage.” Narrated by al-Tirmidhi (1165); classed as saheeh by Ibn Daqeeq al-‘Eid in al-Ilmaam (2/660) and by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Tirmidhi.

It was narrated that Khuzaymah ibn Thaabit (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Allaah is not too shy to tell the truth” three times. “Do not have intercourse with women in their back passages.” Narrated by Ibn Maajah (1924); classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Ibn Maajah.

Some people imagine that it is permissible to have intercourse with one’s wife in her back passage. They understand from the verse (interpretation of the meaning): “Your wives are a tilth for you, so go to your tilth when or how you will” [al-Baqarah 2:223] that Allaah has permitted everything in this verse, even intercourse in the back passage. This misinterpretation is reinforced for them when they read the hadeeth narrated by al-Bukhaari in his Saheeh – and perhaps this is the hadeeth referred to by the questioner – in which it says: It was narrated that Jaabir (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: The Jews used to say that if (the man) had intercourse from behind, the child would be born with a squint. Then the verse “Your wives are a tilth for you, so go to your tilth when or how you will” [al-Baqarah 2:223] was revealed.

But this is a misunderstanding of the verse. Allaah says “so go to your tilth when or how you will” which means that all variations of intercourse are permitted, so long as it is in the place of tilth, i.e., the vagina, not the back passage. So it is permissible for a man to have intercourse with his wife from behind or from in front or lying on their sides so long as it is in the place of tilth and not the back passage.


The evidence for that is Muslim’s report (1435) of the hadeeth of Jaabir quoted above about the reason for the revelation of this verse, in which it says: If he wishes, when she is lying on her front and if he wishes when she is not lying on her front, so long as that is in only one opening.


In Abu Dawood’s report of the same hadeeth (2163) it says: It was narrated that Muhammad ibn al-Munkadir said: I heard Jaabir say: The Jews say that if a man has intercourse with his wife in her vagina from behind, the child will have a squint. Then Allaah revealed the words (interpretation of the meaning): “Your wives are a tilth for you, so go to your tilth when or how you will” [al-Baqarah 2:223


The Prophet SAWS (Peace & Blessings of Allah be upon Him) also said: "The one who has intercourse with a menstruating woman, or with a woman in her rectum, or who goes to a fortune-teller, has disbelieved in what was revealed to Muhammad." (Reported by al-Tirmidhi, no. 1/243; see also Saheeh al-Jaami', 5918).

Rafidi:
what is the source of the article (posted by newnas)? no source!
what is the source or reference for the alleged words of the scholars you quoted? no source!
the references you gave in the content cannot be found or validated.
now answer this: do you believe the rubbish you either made up/copied, or do you simply not care whether it is credible or not, but you want others to believe it because "the end justifies the means"; and whatever causes damage to the name and image of the Shia, you are good with it?
it is not surprising, and not shocking. these are your ways that the Wahhabi ideology has made you follow.

You cannot use your Taqiya to deceive people anymore! This is information age. This is a fatwa from your scholar, Ayatollah Sistani on Anal Sex:

Question: Is anal intercourse permissible.?

Answer:Anal intercourse is permissible if wife is consenting but it is strongly undesirable (makrooh).

Ayatullah Sistani

http://www.shiachat.com/forum/

Is this Islam? Is this what the Prophet(SAW) taught? Is this what Allah(SWT) commanded us to do?

Rafidi:
to say a harlot can repent and mend her ways is a "shameful thing"; but to defend those who oppressed and harmed the Prophet's (s) Ahlul-Bayt (a) by saying the oppressors could have repented just before death (even though there is no evidence for such) is not a shameful thing to people like you?

ShiaMuslim:

Go and preach to harlots and prostitutes to repent! Stop commiting adultery with them! Stop committing adultery with girls/women in the name of mut'ah! That's the message!

ShiaMuslim:
^^
that is a fiqh (jurisprudence) question. the opinion of Imam Khomeini on this does not make mut'ah more or less validated.

...what if a harlot repents?

You have no shame at all! I don't have your time! I'm done with you!

ShiaMuslim:
...mut'ah is for the widow and divorced, or the girl who is not virgin, or with the father's permission.

This is another fatwa from shia scholar saying a cook/chef can be having sex with the daughter of the house owner in the name of mut'ah in the house.. Subhanallah!

https://www.google.com.ng/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DgAj3OluD87U&ved=0CBoQuAIwAGoVChMIxobpvtCByQIVhaYeCh19VwLk&usg=AFQjCNGLXdItwgPZCTpJpgw7ih5ypSCRrA&sig2=Fc-EJpFLZlI1Kt2hhjc0WA

Is this also Islam?
You shia people cannot give Islam bad name! You will only create more problems for yourselves!

ShiaMuslim:
mut'ah is for the widow and divorced, or the girl who is not virgin, or with the father's permission.

This is another terrible one coming from your scholar:

Shia Ayatollah Khomeini stated in his book "Tahir-ul-Wasila", Vol. 2, Page No. 292, "Temporary marriage can be for one day, a night, and even just a few hours ! But for Khomeini, that was not enough so he further states in the same book on Page No. 292, "Temporary marriage can be performed with harlots and prostitutes".

Is this Islam? Or an evil?

ShiaMuslim:
... mut'ah is for the widow and divorced, or the girl who is not virgin, or with the father's permission.

This is another sister you people turned her life upside down:

"A Muslim woman known as Fairuza is said to offer sex services to men but strictly keeps the Shia Islamic principles.
The 25-yr-old escort reportedly performs the quickie service by reading a religious text in Arabic and takes the money as a "dowry".

And once the deed is done, she divorced the two of them from their temporary marriage – “nikah mut’ah” – arrangement.

According to The Sun, belly dancer Fairuza told an undercover reporter that once the marriage is up the client must wait three months to request the service again.

In a secret video filmed by the newspaper, she revealed: "I married myself to you for one hour and agreed upon the money you’ve given me. It’s £300 and £50 for the marriage. If you want to renew it we can do it within three months.

“Even though we do mut’ah, you must still use a condom. I don’t do it without condom. Some people think that if you do mut’ah you don’t have to use a condom.”

The Daily Star reports that Fairuza is believed to be one of many Muslim women now offering the guilt-free service.
On a hidden escort advertising website, Fairuza boasts to have "very beautiful natural 34DD breasts" and a "very pretty face with juicy lips".

Her Twitter account, which is thought to have recently been deleted, had more than 85,000 followers – all of which could see her raunchy topless posts.

In the video she explains that some men are converting to Shia Islam to take advantage of the sin-free sex.

She explains: “I did it with one Saudi who converted to Shia Islam only so he could do mut’ah.
"He was in London for two months. I was his wife for the two months. I lived with him and I wasn’t allowed to be with any other man. He paid very good money.
“He is coming back next year and we’ll do it again."

https://www.nairaland.com/attachments/3052725_muslimwoman_jpegd5edbf08b3bf0382c789302ed0b7b45b

https://www.google.com.ng/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://pulse.ng/religion/in-uk-muslim-prostitute-marries-customers-to-avoid-fornication-divorces-them-after-sex-id3598492.html&ved=0CBkQFjAAahUKEwiHueLG1IHJAhXDRQ8KHa1-CLs&usg=AFQjCNEerAcGfKE3EHNzvmYbJST1kHPF5g&sig2=iRVxDI9LfWjWf_uwmJQ5BQ

Pray to Allah(SWT) that what is happening to her should happen to your sisters, daughters and your mother!

ShiaMuslim:
... mut'ah is for the widow and divorced, or the girl who is not virgin, or with the father's permission.

Another agent of shaytan!
All the evils you are doing to innocent girls/women in the name of mut'ah, will you allow other men to do the same to your daughters, sisters and mother? I repeat! This is another evil one of your people did to an innocent sister! Listen to her yourself:

"I was fourteen years old and my relationship with my parents was on the edge just like any other teenager. I started to become interested in boys. I felt as if no one understood me, not even my friends. I especially didn’t feel pretty with my braces.

It all changed when I met him. It was fascinating to know that a college student would care so much about me. He was the most wonderful person. He treated me like a queen, and soon we became the best of friends. I felt I could tell him anything. As our friendship progressed, we talked about different topics including religion. He had different beliefs than me; he was Shia while I was Sunni. We always argued upon the differences. He had a way with making things sound bettter than what they were. Soon I became very confused.

One day he mentioned the idea of Mutah. He told me that it was a type of temporary marriage, which was Halal even in Sunni books. At first I didn’t believe him, but he used sources such as Bukhari and Muslim. I took his word for it, and before I realized, I was into a lot of trouble. I was in Mutah for four years. As time went by, I learnt that I had lost my honor and dignity to someone who had done this to several other girls.

I hope to inform and educate the people about the disease of Mutah, which is spreading rapidly in the Sunni community. It is the goal of certain Shia individuals to do Mutah with innocent girls, who lack knowledge of religion and experience of life. They convince them with their beliefs, and create confusion in their minds. I beg every sister, brother, father, mother, and friend to take a closer look at their dear ones, and make sure they do not become victims to the concept of Mutah.

Mutah is a form of temporary marriage whereby a man can “marry” a woman for an agreed amount of time and money (mahr). In Mutah, the husband is not financially responsible for the wife. There are no set limits in this kind of marriage by the Shia. According to Shia beliefs, no witnesses nor a permission of the guardian is needed (the Sunni father does not believe in Mutah), and there is no limit on the number of times one can do Mutah.

Also, the time period can be as little as one hour to as long as sixty years. In addition, a man who is permanently married can do as many Mutah as he feels like, even with married women. This is very similar to prostitution indeed.

Every day, more and more girls in our community are falling victim to this idea of Mutah presented by the Shia individuals. These girls are helpless in asking anyone for help, especially their parents. Please, teach and inform one another about the idea of Mutah, and our beliefs regarding it. Please do it for the honor and dignity of our Islam and for the love of Allah!

If everyone practised Mutah, which is what Shi’ism encourages, then we’d all probably die of STDs. There are Shia[code][/code] hadith which say that a man should perform Mutah with a thousand women. The medical implications of the implementation of these Shia beliefs would mean an epidemic of diseases. It is well-known that Shia guys are engaging in Mutah, oftentimes preying on innocent Sunni and Shia girls. This has become a major problem on university campuses world-wide."

Yours Truly,
A Concerned Muslim Sister
https://www.nairaland.com/828367/plea-muslim-sister

AlBaqir:
... Do not approach salat while you are intoxicated. This reduced their terrible consumption. And later at Madinah towards the Last year of the Prophet, there came ruling that alcohol is forbidden.

Olodo! What is the explanation of that verse of Qur'an(bolded) according to the Prophet(SAW) and His companions! What is the interpretation of the later verse that finally forbids alcohol?

Simply because you want to defend your evil shameful act of fornicating and committing adultery with innocent women in the name of mut'ah, you're here misinterpreting Allah's word!

Anyway, I don't have your time anymore! Don't bother quoting me! If you believe in your shameful mut'ah, just pray to Allah(SWT) that different men should be sleeping with your daughters, your sisters and your mother and be paying after servicing them!

Agent of shaytan!

benestico:
Do you know that?

2. Patience Jonathan is one of Nigeria’s most-educated First Ladies with an NCE, a B.Ed, and a PhD from University of Port-Harcourt.

Chai !

Mack3N:
Buratai shut up,I said shut up!....what do you mean by sambisa is as big as Enugu
Is it not funny how these Hausa-Fulani people just wake up and tell you your land mass,or tell your land starts and end,or tell you who is Igbo or not,what rubbish!
That's how one said ogun is the size of 3 SE states combined,this is what they use to lobby for more allocation!

Bornu State alone is bigger than all the five Ibo States(Abia, Anambra, Ebonyi, Enugu and Imo) combined!

Hmmm! Albert Einstein! Kudos!

This is serious!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAjN4OhJEgw

This is serious!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAjN4OhJEgw

Annunaki:
Idol worship and they are even shamelessly wearing kaffir made underwater equipment.

Pele!

This is serious!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAjN4OhJEgw

God bless Baba Jakande!

@OP. Jazakumullah khaeran!

This is one of the evils shia people are spreading on the land! May Allah(SWT) in His mercy protect the Muslims all over the world from their fitnah (Amin).