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nastyesco:
A lot of good advises which I certainly agree with has been earlier posted and if I may add, pls never try to outshine the team, its called a team for a reason, your drive for recognition is stemming from this. Addressing ur GM may even turn out to be a disaster as he will sense ur hunger for recognition and take it as a lack of team spirit. I understand ur pain but ur time will come, keep improving yourself and you will grow, ur ambition should be global not local. A lone wolf never catches game.

Lots of good advise indeed, thanks for your contribution

oloriIT:
OP, I can understand your frustration. However, I will like to advise you to talk things easy. Continue to do your job happily. No matter how much he tries to shield you from being noticed by executive management, one day you will be spotted out for honor. Will he not go on leave? Won't he have reasons not to come to office someday? Just wait for your opportunity and God will raise you up. After one opportunity, the truth will be known by your management and they will see the game he is playing and they will be requesting for you to attend some of the strategic meetings he is trying to shield you from.

Just keep your calm and continue praying that should favour you and bless the work of your hands.

Best regards

Thank you

Youngzedd:
Hehe, you self nawaa.

Seems you aren't use to office games. Bros, what you are experiencing is now seen as a norm.

Oga Manager must protect his job too. Hence you're under him, He takes the glory and also the bullcrap.

Take Facebook for an example, Mark takes the glory but those who are actually doing the work are no where to be found in the public like that.

When Facebook had an issue with data and was taken to the senate, him Mark Zuckerberg went to clear the mess.

Ask yourself, will you also be ready to clear a mess when the time come.


In this space, your boss is higher than you.


Do your thing and STFU

Well, thanks for taking time to comment.

saajus:
This is a very common problem in any work environment. You need to be careful with such manager. Be very nice to him and never let him not suspect this game I want to teach you.

If possible, Disrupt a vital thing in that software. Disguise as if it's a new problem you've never seen before. Keep troubleshooting and make the troubleshooting very obvious to almost everyone in that office. Fix the problem later. Repeat this process again and again until it's obvious to everyone that you are the brain behind but remember to still keep respecting your manager. Keep hyping him by telling him you have more solutions to bring on-board.

Your time to shine will surely come. Don't rush. Patiently wait.
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Thanks for contribution, its a way out, but not the best. all the same thanks

Treasuredlove:
Who says management is not watching? Just do your thing to grow, not for the accolades or anything, with time all your efforts will pay off...besides have you ever considered he is also a good boss cos he is approachable and takes to your recommendations? Some bosses won't even listen to a quarter of what you have to say. E.g that software thingy you mentioned, another boss will act like he has all dat planned already and bring in his own people to do the software work...same problem, same result...he still gets the glory
Just do your job biko

Thanks for taking time to contribute, I appreciate

Halo22:
Well If I would advise, you should just allow him to take the glory for now, it won't last forever. Am sure one day ur GMD must dig deep into his performance and who and who contribute to may be success on his area of delivery and sure he will mention your name, except he z a demon himself. I have had such issue with my manager, when the time became riped, he couldn't hold the commendation which earned me a 30% increment in my Salary. So Bro, just leave things to work on its accord........Wish u good luck.

Thanks

[quote author=OladimejiRufai post=73388825][/quote]I also think a lot of those job hunting for long without success lack skill and might not be well informed, getting a job is more than your degree, after graduating you need a lot of personal development, you need to know the right thing to do, you CV also contribute, your LinkedIn profile, where and how you job hunt & I also believe on the God factor as well. TBH, for 8yrs now I have never been jobless for more than 1month. Though I see it as grace. all the same, Many thanks for your contribution.

gypsey:
He is your boss, he should take credit for your work. if you don't like it, find a job some were else, Any company would be Delighted to Employ you. unless you are Rubbish at work.

My brother we no d quarrel nah, ;Dall the same thanks for our contribution

mechanics:
Since God sees your hard work, you have to wait for your time to come, like in the civil service, you don't expect presidency to increase one's salary like that, even though the person knows the work, he or she has to do promotion exam and pass before pay increase, that's how it is, your boss takes the glory, since you are working under him, relax.

Thanks

sunny777:
There are different types of leaders in organizations. The one that normally say I achieve this and another that will say we. Being your boss today doesn't mean that is how it will continue for the next five years or ten years. I have worked under this condition for about four years. You need to be patient and face your work and have faith that your own time will come. My own case was worst than yours but with patience, endurance and perseverance I overcame all. For those advising you to copy higher management any mail you send to your boss, that's not the solution. What is happening now is one of those experience you need to become a good leader tommorow.
The one that was claiming all the glory during my time in the wilderness was my subordinate three years ago. Your time to shine will come. Be patient.

I absolutely agree with you. Thanks for your contribution.

MaziOmenuko:
I had similar experience in one of my previous place of work. Mine was that aside being selfish and canny, my boss was very overbearing. He was employed newly to head the department, prior to that, I was acting as dept head when my previous boss resigned. Upon resumption, I practically taught him everything in the department. Then he became very paranoid of me. He always felt I was a threat to his job.

I never disagreed with him openly except on one occasion in the presence of the MD when he made one silly suggestion which I challenged and after presenting our points, the MD took my side. After that, matters degenerated so much that he told me openly that I was eyeing his job.

I have read that 48 laws of power and is familiar with the phrase 'Never outshine your master', but unfortunately, I am not of that same school of taught. I don't have to swallow a popular phrase because it is a General believe. I made myself visible to the point that during mgt meetings, the MD always sends for me alongside him because he knows what I am capable of.

Long story short, during one of our yearly performance review and appraisal, he strongly recommended that I be sacked as I was incompetent on the job and not a team player. He ended up getting sacked for falling short of some basic management requirement.

What saved my job was not obeying one law in the 48 commandements; I was retained for having a good track record of outstanding performance visible for all to see.

Oga, make yourself visible. Next time you see an innovation that will move your company forward, prepare a very nice slide with PowerPoint and send to your MD. Tell him you need 5mins of his time to make the presentation.

Your boss did not hire you, don't let him decide when you will be sacked.

***I must add that my experience above is relative. It depends on your boss. I had a boss that gave me a project, a big one. When I was through, he forwarded my report to the MD and mentioned specifically that I was the one that did the job. He blind copied me in the mail he sent to the MD. I was overwhelmed. So it all boils down to the kind of boss you have. For such a boss, I would gladly obey the law of not bordering myself to outshine him.

Thanks for sharing your experience, I appreciate.

binary007:
@OP Timing and patience is important.
Your manager would go on leave or get sick.. and voila! you have your opportunity. But don't be overly ambitious.

Awesome way of thinking. Thanks a lot

mapet:
@OP, let me be brutally-frank in stating the following (you are at liberty to reject these submission tho)

YOU ARE MAKING SOME DEFAULT MISTAKES OF SMART NEW RECRUITS.

1. With this mindset? You'RE few clicks away from getting into trouble. More like your boss is baiting you and you're falling for it. He's most likely seeing through you....the frustration, the impatience, the anger and other stuffs
2. I am more worried for you that are you concerned about "your work" and stuffs like that at this stage of your career? In fact, what you are currently being measure on is your ability to be a potential leader..i.e. a team player, a good steward and a good servant (not a loner)..and a cardinal aspect of that includes your ability to serve. If you are at this stage worried and complaining about your manager "taking credit for your work", the signal you're sending is that if you're a GM, you will soon be complaining that the GMD is "taking credit for your work" to the Board?
3. Someone advised you (albeit less-wisdom) to copy a superior officer in your correspondences...... Even the superior officer will frown at such "un-tempered ambition". You need to get into the mind of your superiors a bit. The moment your boss's boss condone such acts (allowing you to correspond to him directly and not through your manager) = your manager is at liberty to do same to him.
4. YOU NEED TO RESPECT YOUR MANAGER. Have you ever considered why this guy was employed as the manager and you as a subordinate? Because his profile, experience and total package is better than yours. At the moment he offers better value to the organisation.
5. Why are you so overtly ambitious to see the GMD? Why can you not simply relax and let your work speak for you? Have you bothered to check if you have overtly demonstrated this ambition of yours and your manager has seen it hence his decision to suppress you? You seem to have given out all your aces and he knows your "moves"; explains why he doesn't want you to attend meetings in his absence or see the GMD on-on-one.
6. On the issue of the new accounting software, I tell you (as someone who led information systems in the corporate world for over 7yrs), your knowledge of how to use the accounting software above your manager hardly counts for much in the grand scheme of things. You are rated on this, you manager is rated on the delivery and accuracy of the end product - The Financials. The management will not scold him for not knowing how to use the software.....they will rather scold him for not using you guys to use the software to effect.

Pls get some things right
1. The journey to the top is arduous, challenging and tasking. It requires physical and mental fitness, and you have to fit for the marathon. You will be muscled, bruised, out-witted, taken advantage on (you may/will also do same..). For each you need to learn how to navigate your way through these hurdles. It requires patients, smarts and wisdom.
2. Don't make a move ahead of the time for the move. Be like a cat (Lion, Tiger, Jaguar etc) that waits patiently for the right moment before it pounces. If you "jump" before time, you miss the prize....and people who are less capable than you will be rewarded
3. Make your manager feel comfortable (even if you hate his guts). Let him feel you're not a threat. Even if you want to scheme for his position..... take him off your scent. Your time to seize the moment will surely come. For example, I always refer to the root of my biggest career break as that one time I taught my former HR manager some aspects in excel (something simple, trivial and of no consequences), she was so impressed with my conduct that she never forgot me. From there she recommended the company "disconnected" outsourcing that aspect of training and made it internal. I was asked to train a whole exploration department.....from there I was invited to join a meeting/project team mid-way to "volunteer my opinion" on an aspect.....from there I was asked to permanently join the project team......from there the project team was sent to the UK for a 2 weeks training/workshop/strategy session......at the workshop I distinguished myself.........back in the country I was one of the people given public acknowledgement by the MD.......from their the ED invited me for an informal interview for a new position........on and on. Prior to this I was like you. I was "burned" for about 3 frustrating years, before I let wisdom work and not my frustration.
4. This may or may not work, I suggest you change your strategy - make it a priority to continue to do a damn good job, then let it look like you don't care beyond that point. Push your good ideas to your boss. Let him get "uncomfortable-until-he-hears-from-you". Increase the output of your department through him. Let the bigger and better results continue to churn out......if he fails to recognize you and others in the team, then one day he'll do himself in. Even if you don't get rewarded on this job, if you keep at this pace, you'll have simply prepared yourself for a bigger and better position on your next job.

Regards

Thanks, I only wanted to know if there is a better way to deal with it other than the bolded, all the same, like I earlier mentioned, we are best of friends, I even decide to choose him as a mentor, though was really hurt when he got a raise and couldn't put a word on my behalf and knowing how much I have invested to make it a reality.

Nairaland is like a family to me, i feel free to spill my heart out here and sit down to read contributions/comments. I graduated in 2009 and have worked in 2 companies for the last 8yrs, my present coy is the 3rd. Yes, i am human i get angry, but overtime via the books i have read and via personal development + experience, i don't talk nor take action when angry that has been my guide.

All thesame, many thanks for your contribution.

coolcharm:
Hey,

Good to hear from you again.

Wish you all the best in your endeavours.

Thanks

I want to say thank you to everyone that contributed to my post, I am convinced that just as I have learn from your contributions, many other NLers has also learn from your contributions. those with humorous contribution, you guys rock! to the very wise contributors, many thanks, I read all your contributions and found so many valuable, I try to modify my original post for everyone to see this, unfortunate I couldn't, I want everyone who contributed and those who only came to read contributions to know, you guys are awesome! I want to say a special thank you to coolcharm, praxs, jokality, SlimBrawnie, abc115, TheGreenLand, kingharzy, pocohantas, BuhariBuster, ShamsBarack, saragujay, lawrence35, ejibaba, SmartMindsFx, Agbaletu, babadee1, nams77, & every other contributor.

I am taking the advise from coolcharm, nams77 and every other contributor that align with them, its the best line of action. Thank you guys, you guys rock!

To my supermode, Seun, Lalasticalala et al. Thanks for taking this to FP

Am typing in a hurry.

coolcharm:
Oh, ok. My bad. Hope you deal with the whole challenge with wisdom tho.

Absolutely, Thanks.

coolcharm:
Hey OP,

I have a feeling that you are in your late 20's or early 30's.. I might be wrong, but I strongly sense so because you exuade so much energy and ambition with your write up.

While it is not a bad thing, you need to simmer down.

In corporate settings, there are always structured reporting lines, and you are his direct report!, Except you want to become his competition, which is what him 'stealing your shine' implies.

No matter how intelligent or smart you think you are on the job, never make the mistake of outsining your master (in this case, your boss).

That is the first law in Robert Greene's '48 Laws of Power'.

I leave you with excerpts from that book;

Law 1: Never Outshine the Master - Keys to Power
Robert Greene

Everyone has insecurities. When you show yourself in the world and display your talents, you naturally stir up all kinds of resentment, envy, and other manifestations of insecurity. This is to be expected. You cannot spend your life worrying about the petty feelings of others.

With those above you, however, you must take a different approach: when it comes to power, outshining the master is perhaps the worst mistake of all.

Do not fool yourself into thinking that life has changed much since the days of Louis XIV and the Medicis.

Those who attain high standing in life are like kings and queens: they want to feel secure in their positions, and superior to those around them in intelligence, wit, and charm.

It is a deadly but common misperception to believe that by displaying and vaunting your gifts and talents, you are winning the master's affection.

He may feign appreciation, but at his first opportunity he will replace you with someone less intelligent, less attractive, less threatening, just as Louis XIV replaced the sparkling Fouquet with the bland Colbert. And as with Louis, he will not admit the truth, but will find an excuse to rid himself of your presence.

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My final advice to you is to find a balance your ambition with patience and wisdom.

Sorry, I also have not seen where I typed "Stealing my shine" the bolded is quite difference from "doesn't want me to shine"

coolcharm:
Hey OP,

I have a feeling that you are in your late 20's or early 30's.. I might be wrong, but I strongly sense so because you exuade so much energy and ambition with your write up.

While it is not a bad thing, you need to simmer down.

In corporate settings, there are always structured reporting lines, and you are his direct report!, Except you want to become his competition, which is what him 'stealing your shine' implies.

No matter how intelligent or smart you think you are on the job, never make the mistake of outsining your master (in this case, your boss).

That is the first law in Robert Greene's '48 Laws of Power'.

I leave you with excerpts from that book;

Law 1: Never Outshine the Master - Keys to Power
Robert Greene

Everyone has insecurities. When you show yourself in the world and display your talents, you naturally stir up all kinds of resentment, envy, and other manifestations of insecurity. This is to be expected. You cannot spend your life worrying about the petty feelings of others.

With those above you, however, you must take a different approach: when it comes to power, outshining the master is perhaps the worst mistake of all.

Do not fool yourself into thinking that life has changed much since the days of Louis XIV and the Medicis.

Those who attain high standing in life are like kings and queens: they want to feel secure in their positions, and superior to those around them in intelligence, wit, and charm.

It is a deadly but common misperception to believe that by displaying and vaunting your gifts and talents, you are winning the master's affection.

He may feign appreciation, but at his first opportunity he will replace you with someone less intelligent, less attractive, less threatening, just as Louis XIV replaced the sparkling Fouquet with the bland Colbert. And as with Louis, he will not admit the truth, but will find an excuse to rid himself of your presence.

------------------------------ End of quote --------------------------------



My final advice to you is to find a balance your ambition with patience and wisdom.

Thanks, Yes I'm in my 30's, & I have read the above quoted book, TBH, I don't intend to outshine him, he is way more experience than I am, I respect his position, but I also believe managers should give their subordinate opportunity to showcase the little there can offer. that's how subordinate can learn. I also believe managers shouldn't colonize praises, credit & benefits, rather credit and benefit should be given across board.

praxs:
Its such a shame that managers like these do exist. To begin with, a good leader uses the word "we" and not "I" when talking about his dept. I don't know the best advice to give you, but I recommend you keep your head down and continue to do your work properly. Always sends him a formal mail in any work you've done, which ordinarily he will take credit for. You can seldomly cc someone superior. By this, your work will start to get appreciated more without u even knowing.
I myself, a finance manager. I always make sure to use the word we, and always accord the thumps up to my subordinate. It motivates everyone to do better and brings about good team work.
Wish u the very best

Many thanks, I think the bolded is what I just have to do, copying a superior has always been part of the problem, he doesn't want that, anything going to anyone outside the finance dept must pass through him. Its really frustrating. All the same, many thanks once again.

lalatiscalala

Kindly help me move this to FP, I need more people to see this. thanks

Hello my fellow NLers,

I have been spending quite sometime on this forum recently, TBH, it has been informative, entertaining & quite educative.

I am presently in a dilemma and I need urgent input from experienced NLers, I believe we have experienced career people here that must have gone through what am going through at the moment.

I got a job about 6months ago, its quite a good job, thanks to Nairaland job section, on resumption I notice there was a total overhaul of my dept, all former staff were fired and we were employ to replace them. I resume same day with my Dept Manager two months later a junior officer was employ to join us.

I have had a fantastic relationship with my manager the past six months, and we are in good terms, we drive home together everyday, we chat, have quality conversation, even lunch together etc. but am really becoming worried about something else....

My manger seems to take credit for all my work, he somehow deny me opportunity to prove my worth to top management. Now I will give you a typical instance.

Whenever our GMD comes around, there is always a meeting with one rep from each dept. not neccessarily the departmental head, in his absence am suppose to represent the department, he denies me of opportunity like this.


He has on many occassions deny my opportunity to meet the GMD on job related issues, when the GMD needs to see someone from my dept. or sign some documents even in his absence, he either call me to handover documents to the GMD secretary or send an office assistant to drop the document.

Furthermore, on resumption, I noticed the coy still run their account dept manually, an accounting software was introduce, a software i have used for years, which he (my Manager) is not familiar with, though after the software was deploy, we were trained, even after the training he seems not to know his way around the software interface, i single handedly automated all historial data for the previous 2yrs, and my manager took the credit at the magt meetings. Without even mentioning my name, its really annoying.

I am totally pissed right not cos, he just got a pay rise courtesy to the successful deployment and automation of the accounting system, which he knows absolutely nothing about, which i singledhandedly, paintstakingly work on for over 6months even investing my Saturdays.

The above is one instance out of so many.

I expect a manager to represent work done my the department he manages as "WE in so & so dept" I have overheard him many times using "I".

He personally ask me not to pass any dept info to mgt staff member, and all enquiries should be refered to him. I feel he doesnt want me to shine.

I need advise from fellow NLers who have gone through similar situation.

This is not really going well with me.

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Kellibae:
are u OK?
U shulbe ashamed of ur education background.
If u don't see wickedness in this.

Read & understand before getting angry, he said it could not it should

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Xaos:
— It wasn't wrong you went through her chats.
Or would you have prefer not knowing the truth?

—It's best to confront her. Trust me her reaction will be epic. You wouldn't want to miss it for anything. Hear her out then you can break up. Don't ever condone cheating.

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PrettyCrystal:
It was a merry moment earlier today after the Peoples Democratic Party presidential candidate in the February 14, 2019 election, Atiku Abubakar, picked former Governor of Anambra State, Mr. Peter Obi, as his running mate.

Obi emerged the preferred choice of both the party and the candidate after series of consultations by stakeholders in the party and outside it.

It has been gathered that the name of Obi and that of Atiku will be sent to the Independent National Electoral Commission next week.

The former vice president on Sunday became the presidential candidate of PDP, Nigeria’s main opposition.

Peter Obi was seen in an elated mood with Champagne popping as he celebrated the selection with Chief Gbenga Daniels, a former two-term Governor of Ogun State and the Director General of the Atiku Campaign Organization, along with others.

See more; https://www.nationalhelm.co/2018/10/peter-obi-celebrates-with-champagne-after-picked-as-atikus-running-mate.html

MrOpp & family Atikulobi 2019, its a better choice.

Lier, the hoe is looking for sympathizers

Rebornhombre:
Do you even know the meaning of Xsquad? XSQUAD IS NOT FOR CATCHING CRIMINALS BUT ARRESTING OTHER POLICE OFFICERS WHO ARE DOING SOMETHING ILEGAL. SARS DOESN'T EVEN DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS ANYMORE. THE BEST THING IS TO GO ALAGBON OR LION BUILDING OR ANY STATE CID or FCID they can help.

Yes, the squad was put together by the IGP to monitor erring police officers, though today, the squad not only monitor police officer but investigate high profile fraud, I can tell you authoritatively that the Xsquad unit of the Nigeria Police Force are the best in tracking down high profile criminals who are on the run and hiding from arrest and persecution. As long as you are in Nigeria and uses a mobile phone, Xsquad will track you down and arrest you. Am saying this on good authority.

Please, next time when quoting me, kindly be polite, do not use words like the bolded, just make your point.


Thank you