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chiefqueen:
Goodbye sir, it obvious that you're not gonna get better.

I pray for your genuine salvation in the name of Jesus Amen.
Jesus saves.

VictorRomanov:
I guess the devil also deceive Paul to write it. You dont know how you sound writing these comments. Since you refused to use your God given sense, continue. I've provided cases of people who were righteous without the law. If they can be why can't Christians?

Do you know the definition of law?
A law is a set of guided priniciples. God has a principle, standard and that is righteousness. Misguided principles= sin/disobedience

You don't need to tell me. I always know that I sound foolish to some unbelievers. The Bible thought me.

VictorRomanov:
https://www.nairaland.com/4913701/why-shouldnt-listen-daddy-freeze

Your question is like asking why Joseph knew that sleeping with portiphers wife was wrong when there was no law?

How were Noah and Enoch and Abel, Abraham, Isaac, etc declared righteous when there was no law?

Simple, because God has a standard rights and wrongs, whether there is Mosaic law or not. Christians are still to follow those standards just like peeps before the law of Moses.

So if Christ ended the law of righteousness, then why are we mandated to keep it as christians? And he, Jesus, added more laws of righteousness which we MUST keep.

But devil have deceived you by quoting Romans 10:4 "saying "Christ have ended the law of righteousness"

EXPLAIN your gibberish well.

chiefqueen:
Well, you're entitled to your opinions and beliefs. I'm not a hater
though. Also, I'm a Christian too. I realized I've been wasting my time arguing with you. I mean, one little stone in pot of rice can't spoil the whole food, can it? The world will never go back to what it used to be, a prison for women. Nothing you'd say or do will change that. You'd better start adjusting.If only... oh, if only there was a time machine to take you back in time...

You're a new-age Christian in the same category as homosexual christians/pastors.

Quote me, "The world" will "go back" to the purest form of righteousness when Christ rules the Earth in the coming Millennium.

Any human will be utterly ashamed to say "I'm a feminist" or "I'm transgender/homosexual” in this new generation of people.

So change or you'd pass away to everlasting damnation with this perverse generation. Start reading the Bible more often. Read Revelation chapter 21 over and over again. Let it sink in. I have. "Christian"

VictorRomanov:
I have answered this particular question before. It just shows you weren't reading. I am not about to waste my time anymore.

I even went as far as showing you how a Christian giving is done. I am still waiting for you to show me a gentile who paid tithe but didnt keep the passover and new moon because he was not a jew.

Mr answer the question. You have not answered how Romans 10:4 is the end of law of Righteousness and still we need to be Righteous to make Heaven.

Have you hit the brick wall? Runaway boy.

TITHE AND OFFERING ARE WAYS OF GIVING TO GOD.
JUST AS PRAYER IS WAY OF COMMUNICATING TO GOD.

Observation of new moon is not for people of faith.

VictorRomanov:
Now you know you re gentiles. When it comes to tithe you are not. Show me one gentile that paid a tithe, but did not celebrate the passover or kept the new moon?

You question indicates that's the law hasn't ended. So what would say about the scripture I quoted earlier; Romans 10:4

Moreover, no Christian in Nigeria keeps Passover + me. So given the condition, I think I can show you not one gentile but millions.

spongeisback:
Because you're carnal. If you're spiritual you wouldn't say this. Don't let me invoke the Holy Spirit on you.

I rebuke you in the name of Jesus.

spongeisback:
Because you're carnal. If you're spiritual you wouldn't say this. Don't let me invoke the Holy Spirit on you.

I rebuke you in name of Jesus.

mrAMG:
Lmao!!!

Just look this man!

You still haven’t told us how Malachi says we should give pastors money

To unbelievers, we are giving pastors money. To the people of faith, we are giving God money.

"For the wisdom of God is foolishness to them that perish."

mrAMG:
Because you need to sit tf down.


Malachi Malachi, I brought the passage here. Oya explain how it prescribes tithing, you sharply change mouth.

You haven’t said anything wise or rational to support your claim since this banter started, so bros, if you can’t show proof of where the Bible explicitly states that we should give pastors our hard earned money, then shut your pie hole!

Stop using dirty words here. F and pie hole whats the meaning of that? Spill your nasty unholy guts somewhere else.

You did not bring any bible passage here. Sturdy liar.

Have the pleasure of reading my replies to others and you will see the scriptural verse I quoted on tithing.

VictorRomanov:
Now you know you re gentiles. When it comes to tithe you are not. Show me one gentile that paid a tithe, but did not celebrate the passover or kept the new moon?

You question indicates that's the law hasn't ended. So what would say about the scripture I quoted earlier; Romans 10:4

I can see that because you have no further points to present, you now run from one place to another. Earlier you said christ only ended the law on guilt sacrifices, now you say he didn't end any law, but laws like passover and new moon only apply to Jews and not gentiles. But tithing does not. You are a gentile but you still get circumcised.

Absolute confusion.

Come prepared next time. For now have a nice day.

If according to Romans 10:4 Christ is the end of the law, then why do we still have to obey the law of righteousness inother to make Heaven?

I'm asking you. So answer me.

I have made valid points. Passover and new moons is a Jewish calendar. We dont experience that here, why should we keep it.
TITHE AND OFFERING ARE WAYS OF GIVING TO GOD.
This is entirely different.

Answer me Romans 10:4 and then the latter.

mrAMG:
Mtchewww.

You carry argument come but you no fit argue am. Baba go collect seat joh

That I'm still talking with others is evidence of your stupidity. You have nothing rational to say. Only "collect seat joh".

VictorRomanov:
You think you made sense with what you said? Did Jesus abolish the passover, keeping of new moon, gleaning, brother in law marriage, festival of booths, etc? If he did when did he say so? If he didn't why dont your pastors emphasize it today

And when did the law prescribe fasting as a work of righteousness?

I could also pose the same question to you. Why did Jesus add to the law if it has ended.

"Whoever looks on a woman to lust has committed adultery"
"Whosoever the divorces...".


Moreover, Passover is exclusively for Jews, not for the world. Did God deliver the world from Egypt
New moon is Jewish calendar. We are gentiles.

mrAMG:
Since this thread has been active, you’ve been shouting Malachi up and down.

Okay this is what Malachi 3:18 says: “And you will again see the distinction between the righteous and the wicked, between those who serve God and those who do not.”

Oya, tell me how it relates to tithing.

Meanwhile, if you can’t bring up any other passage to support your claim then you should know you’ve been blinded by your so called pastors and GOs

No I don't know Tithing verse. You are a so out of biblical knowledge I can't even talk with you anymore. It's obvious you are just blind and walking.

desiredhome:
#stopworshipingyourpastors

#Athiests reloaded

VictorRomanov:
Are you not also quoting the scriptures like the devil did to Jesus?


Satan also performs signs and powerful works




If you base your identification of true followers of christ by miracles and powerful works alone, won't you be deceived? The above scriptures say you will. And you have.

Then I'm asking you, what signs are there that show Freeze is a man of God and has the spirit of God in him? TELL ME OOOO.

VictorRomanov:
The bible doesn't make that differentiation. At Romans 10:4, it is clearly stated that Christ is the end of the law ( without any distinction to which part of the law)

At Colossian 2:16, 17 Apostle Paul included the observance of festivals, new moon and sabbaths as shadows that passed as soon as the reality which is Christ came.

The above were not sacrificial laws or sin offering. So also is circumcision. The apostles and older men in Jerusalem ruled that it was no longer necessary to be circumcised to be acceptable to God. (Acts 15:1-29). The law of circumcision was not a sin offering law.

When Jesus said he came to fulfil the law it is what it is. When something has been fulfilled or accomplished it's purpose, there is no longer any need for it. Galatians 3: 24, 25:

Does this mean that Christians are now lawless, without laws? No. Galatians 6:2 urged Christians to fulfil the law of the Christ. Same Galatians, this time chapter 5:19-21 list practices that would make one unfit for the kingdom of God. Christians avoid these.

1 John 2:15-17; also gives a principle that guards Christians on what they should avoid.

So my brother tithe paying should have ended with the law. It noteworthy the apostles and older men never talked about tithe paying, especially when Christianity started spreading to gentile nations. Notice how Paul said financial contributions should be made at 2 Corinthians 9:7

Circimcision was an old covenant and one had to be circumcised to be clean. This is was part of being a believer/acceptable then. So it's inclusive in Sin offering commandment.

And so since Paul or Jesus didn't talk about Tithe, SO it means it has been abolished? On what grounds? Who said?

In Luke 18:12 11The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers,(sinners) or even as this publican. 12I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess. (Works of righteousness).

Fasting and Tithing. Although Tithing was not addressed, Jesus likewise was fasting. And yet it is very vital for a Christian and we see that.Jesus fasted and his apostles. Yet he didn't say Fast.

On what grounds then is Tithe now abolished? Freeze?

VictorRomanov:
You re the one who made the mistake. And because you re not humble enough, you couldn't admit your mistake.

It is obvious whom amongst us has been deceived. I ve been quoting the scriptures to back up my points. That should tell you have at least basic bible knowledge.

You on the other hand couldn't correctly quote your most treasured scripture. All what you've been doing is drum sentimental support for 'men of God', saying they perform signs and powerful works.

If you have basic knowledge of the scriptures like you claimed, you would know that miracles and signs and powerful works are not effective tools for identifying those doing the will of God, for Jesus said thus:

- Matthew 7:21-23

The truth is that we have the liberty to believe whatever we want to believe; whether truth or falsehood. The scriptures are clear on matters but it takes an open mind, a humble attitude and the spirit of God to get the sense of it.





Obviously you re lacking in all 3.

That's how devil deceives gullible people; By simply quoting the scriptures.

Signs and wonders, miracles are major effective tools for identifying a man of God.

Mark 16:17-18. "17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

18 they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover."

Why Jesus made that statement was because Holiness and Righteousness is mandatory to enter heaven. As he said "seek ye first his righteousness...".

Immaculatesnow:
You now clearly see why I called you a big baboon imagine how foolish you sound ( men of God) your brain is dead and is full of webs God comes from a heaven to orden these idiots scammers called pastors ba and daddy freeze is now a man of the devil listen up baboon I will gladly serve daddy freeze God than serve your pastors devilish gods

Bunch of unbelievers. Go and check what the gifts and fruits of the holyspirit are before coming here to talk another trash. Contentious agents of crap.

spongeisback:

You said Malachi 3:18 he punched a hole in your argument, instead you to admit your mistake you're shaming him.



So far you've the weakest, weakest defense of tithe.
Why don't you just wear your neon rag and go walk around for Mouka?

All I've read is crap. You don't have anything meaningful to say.

VictorRomanov:
Have you read Malachi 3:18 to know what it says. Lemme copy it for you.





Now, tell me how this relates to tithe. The one scripture you could have used to defend your treasured belief, you couldn't get it right.

You are allowed to make mistake when quoting. But when you have all the time in the world to confirm scriptures before replying a comment, you re inexcusable for such a gaffe.

And you obviously don't know where it is. a verse as popular as John 3:16. Shame.

Malachi 3:8

No wonder you are very very easily deceived. No basic foundation of scriptural knowledge. Just delight in supporting thieves and swindlers.

asuustrike1:
Flesh and blood didn't reveal this to you. For as many that are lead by the spirit they are the sons of God. .The kind of Christians coming up although not all are look and follow Christians. Many dont study the scriptures,many dont pray and ask the holy ghost to reveal things. Many are just bible gurus without power. What is the point of knowing the scriptures when there is no manifeststion of God's power. In summary many just listen to messages from different platform without doing their home work.

claiming to be knowledgeable about the scriptures because their master Lucifer knows the bible too. They are crafty in disserting the bible.

Thank you bro. You are encouraging. It's suiting good.

chiefqueen:
All this talk simply because of the existence of feminism?
Since when did fighting for equality become wrong?
Guy, you are just a very insecure man. I'm pretty sure you're in your late forties or fifties. I wonder how your wife and daughters are coping. YOU are the one who needs to change. YOU are the one who should be preached to. You're a religious extremist and that's not a good thing. Stop playing God man. Your gospel is trash. Preach it to no one.

I'm still very young and single. Just another sign to show how wrong you are about everything you've said.

Moreover, those things i said was because you asked 'how have you managed to survive 21st century", not because of existence of feminism
You're just misfiring crazily. Chai.

For the record, you're telling me about 21st century but I've told you about beyond-21st century. So bookmark your hater and watch it unfold.

chiefqueen:
Sexist
Religious extremist
Homophobic
Backward thinking... Man how have you managed to survive in this 21st century?

MrPRevailer:
Ivili

There you have it. THE DEMISE OF CHRISTIANITY ---> DEMISE OF THE ABOMINABLE GENERATION ---> RESURRECTION OF CHRISTIANITY/THE SAINTS

mrAMG:
Still talking too much.

Baba bring proof and back up your claims on tithing, if you can’t then take a seat.

Ok, now I know you are an unbeliever. So you should be coming across tithing scripture Malachi 3:18 for the first time.

BlackManta:
But every time they commit evil.
People like you always resort to victim blaming

I have asked why women in hijab gets sexually harassed even though they are dressed decently but no one wants to answer me

They rather dodge the question.
Bunch of victim blamers

I have answered your question. You're failure to understand me shows your level. Should I spell everything out like kindergarten?

Some people are psychopaths and see any woman as sex objects. So a woman that covers her face and body can still be alluring to them. Because they get pleasure from raping, overpowering people.

Note: The seducer that was playing devil's advocate will always want to claim innocence naturally.

VictorRomanov:
Did Jesus command Christians to pay tithe? Christ ended the law, that's why Christians don't do animal sacrifices, observe the passover, or stone people to death. Why did they keep the paying of tithe?

Is tithing tied to Christian's blessing and protection from God?

Use the scriptures to answer this questions.

The law pertaining to sin offering. Washing legs, hands, plates, abstaining from eating animals classified unclean, sacrifice of bulls, sheep for sin, levite and priesthood duties pertaining cleansing and worship.
This was the abolished law.

It's not the whole Law that was abolished. But the law pertaining Sin and cleansing.

Jesus did not end the law of righteousness, offering/tithe, 10 commandments, he infact added more to these.
He came to fulfil his part as a sin offering John 1:29, Matthew 5:17

VictorRomanov:
Jesus taught from the scriptures. He kept saying it is written, it is written, have you not read. He disciples trusted his teachers because he always taught from the scriptures. Even when he said something they didn't understand, they asked questions and he explained.


But you guys dont even know the scriptures, neither do you even ask questions.

Pastors have been quoting to pay your tithe according to Malachi 3:18
I see You have never gone to church that's why you don't know that Tithing is scriptural and have posted it is to me as a challenge to provide scriptures verses.

You don't know the scriptures that's why you would believe a man that sprung out of nowhere to be criticizing teacher. Anyone can do what he is doing. He just happened to gain popularity through social infleunces. Again as carnal as the average unbeliever who wants to teach christian believers how a church should be run.

Immaculatesnow:
first of all you are a big stinking baboon who just woke up and had his little ego bruised by the the fact that your dirty scammers named pastors have all been exposed by my man daddy freeze you see kid, common sense is not that common for a brainwashed dog like you Nigerians are backwards in reasoning because we believe in dirty miracles without working for change in the country hence the advent of religion to further dull our minds grow up kid and learn how to disprove people scripturaly

He is your man. But no proof of being an approved man of God. God confirms his servants with signs and wonders following. Jesus, all the apostles, and great men of God before and today don't just make flattery words. They prove their faith with extraordinary works and miracles which are the manifestations of the Holyghost. God's confirmation they are his anointed shepherds to lead his flocks.

By their FRUIT you shall know them. Not by their words, neither by blabbings nor contentious statements.

mrAMG:
Baba go and bring scriptural proof

If you have none, please sit down.

Your likes are the type who stone Jesus in favour of another prophet because you are judging from war of words rather than authority of the one who is talking.
Why did the disciples keep listening to Jesus even though what he said didn't make sense (eat my flesh, drink my blood)? Because they were sure "that thou art the Son of God".

The quoted men of God above have been quoting scriptures on tithing?
Did Tithing commandment not proceed from scriptures?
Scriptures that you cannot understand. You're busy looking for a teacher that will itch your itching ears for you.
keep asking me for scripture for tithing, a very common doctrine of the faith.

VictorRomanov:
I am sorry to say but this question has no relevance. I made no mention of him being a man of God, nor him being filled with the "holy ghost". Except you re saying no one should read the bible except 'men of God'.


I am only asking for scriptural basis to disprove him. Simple!

Case closed
Bible is not literature. It is a spiritual thing. Spiritual things are spiritually discerned. The carnal man cannot understand the things of God, to him they are foolishness. 1 Cor 2:14. VERY IMPORTANT.
Look to godly spiritual men to explain biblical things to you, not blind, carnal men with carnal wisdom.

BlackManta:
You are right.

We must also blame the women in hijab and minors for getting raped

I believe that somehow they tempted the men

There are rapists, murderers, ritualists, pedophiles SEDUCERS. None of them can be justified.

chiefqueen:
Sexist
Religious extremist
Homophobic
Backward thinking... Man how have you managed to survive in this 21st century?

Ivili

We Christians are actually managing to survive in 21st century. We know the times we are living in and the time is coming that Christians will be lawfully killed, in the Antichrist reign (New World Order).

Jesus is coming to put an end to the New World order and reserrect the Saints/righteous Christians that were killed.

The fact I'm telling you this should open you senses, if you were normal.

Definitely, things will get more and very very hostile for Christians but I know where it's all headed. But DO YOU KNOW, or CAN U UNDERSTAND?


There you have it. THE DEMISE OF CHRISTIANITY ---> DEMISE OF THE ABOMINABLE GENERATION ---> RESURRECTION OF CHRISTIANITY/THE SAINTS

VictorRomanov:
I'd like to be pointed to those people. Cos all I ve seen are insults and references to 'men of God'. But little to no proofs from the scriptures.

What is your conviction that 'daddy Freeze' is a man of God?
How do you know he is filled with the Holyghost? (If you affirm he is)