MaxInDHouse:


If TRINITARIANS catch you hen!

We humans are Trinity-beings.

Body, Soul and Spirit.

And we are supposed to rule over our Spirit and body. Proverbs 25:28, proverbs 16:32, 1 Corinthians 9:27

Verbtips:
he is right bro jehova is different from jesus
jesus also aknowledge GOD AS HIS FATHER
ALL HAS BEEN SAID,BUT IF YOU ALSO REMEMBER JESUS SAID IF YOU DENY ME B4 MEN I WILL ALSO DENY SO IN FRONT OF MY FATHER

What does this mean to you?

John 16:27-28.

Jesus said to his disciples: "I came forth from the Father. Neither came I by myself but he sent me.".

John 1:14 "The Word was with God and the Word was God. All thiings were made by him. The Word was made flesh and dwelt among men."

MaxInDHouse:

Hmmmmmmmmmmm, well i'm also one of Christ's disciples and i know that he is not the Almighty God because David was inspired to say:

The LORD (JEHOVAH) said to my Lord (Jesus) "sit at my right hand until i make your enemies a stool for your feet" Psalms 110:1

So who is Jesus?
He was just a human being and great prophet?

Dsimmer:


Jesus was a black man because the Hebrews were black, not an Arab man. He was a Hebrew (Jew).

Show me in the bible were a Jew was described as black?? (Lies and lies)

They were all described as having a fair or light countenance.

Your tithe is for the church and it's priest/Levites/Pastors

God commands "bring all the tithe into my storehouse".

Don't be deceived by people telling you pastor is eating all the money.
If you think your pastor is eating all the tithe. Then it's either your Pastor is covetous and you need to change your church or you are just being paranoid and easily swayed by mischievous digital contents and/or negative news.

Tithe is not offering or alms.
Tithe is a monument belonging to God's house or temple.

"The poor you have always with you".
Your "tithe" is not accepted if you gave it to the poor.
That's doing something right with the wrong approach.

Fahvvy denisbid

Jennyclay:
Only God knows the evil he has done to make karma visit him like that

You know you Nigerian men can never be trusted

Isaiah 57:1

Good people pass away; the godly often die before their time. But no one seems to care or wonder why. No one seems to understand that God is protecting them from the evil to come.

He most likely made heaven.
Will you make heaven?

Think about it. That's what matters most.

Popular Movie Actor Emeka Ani Testified How INCURABLE illness Was Healed in CHOSEN Church

https://www.nairaland.com/8048085/popular-movie-actor-emeka-ani

They were seeing my intestine from my buttocks. The way the thing got rotten. I was smelling for two good weeks. The whole people that were in the hospital discharged themselves from the hospital because of the smell from my body. OMG! I don't know how to thank God

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7d9E2pWnY0g&t=215s

Popular Nollywood Actor, Emeka Ani has testified how he suffered severed affliction on his body. He had sores on his butt areas. (jump to 7:00 mins on the video timeline)

He could not sit down. He could not take air flight. He had to take road transport.

He suffered stroke on his arm and legs.
It was so severe that media carried rumors that Emeka Ani is dead (RIP)

Giving more highlight, he said

They were seeing my intestine from my buttocks. The way the thing got rotten. I was smelling for two good weeks. The whole people that were in the hospital discharged themselves from the hospital because of the smell from my body. OMG! I don't know how to thank God

He had been admitted to many hospitals. He tried traditional medicines but there was no positive result.

He travelled from Enugu via road transport to see the Lord's Chosen G.O. He said he had known him a long time ago.
And after the Lord's Chosen G.O prayed for him, his terrible affliction of stroke and sores vanished away. Today he is free and healthy.

He gave all the credit and glory to the God of Chosen. Jesus Christ is Lord.


Please watch the video testimony.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7d9E2pWnY0g&t=215s

Mainstream sources:
https://www.legit.ng/entertainment/nollywood/1440276-lets-help-as-much-we-can-yul-edochie-pleads-as-actor-emeka-ani-battles-with-diabetes-stroke-cataract/

https://guardian.ng/saturday-magazine/help-comes-for-emeka-ani/

ahmedio2017:





You lacks understanding....
Moses, Aaron, Abraham, Solomon David are all Muslims Judaism believe in ONENESS of God same thing applicable to ISLAM,

Jesus Christ PBUH is a MUSLIM and he believed in oneness of God.

Jesus Christ PBUH is a word of God now the question is what is the meaning of word of God?

Remember God created heaven and the earth with his word.
Now what is the meaning of that word?

Wasn't it you asking what is Judaism? As if to talk it down.

That Judaism and Islam believe in Oneness of God don't make them the same. They are very different.

For example, In Judaism, a significant Moses LAW was to use blood of animals (goats, sheep cow) for atonement of sins. Sacrificed to God to obtain forgiveness.
Islam does not adhere to such law.

Moses, Aaron, David conducted atonement of sins with animal sacrifices. Which means they practised Judaism not Islam, not Ramadan, not iftar.

Muslims choose to turn a deaf ear and keep claiming the forefathers of the very Jews they hate are Muslims. That is covetousness.

DenreleDave:
Sometimes I think I should not have been a Nigerian because my thinking level and perspective is far more than being a Nigerian

Femi Adebayo has done nothing wrong.

Mr & Mrs Bobrisky has done nothing wrong and no offence

The only people I think have a misplaced priorities are Nigerians who are struggled to eat and subscribe fighting over people that can afford anything they want anytime.. Nigerians are so annoying.. We leave what's important and face what's less important..


Dollars has come down, the woman selling provisions in your streets and markets has refused to Bring price of commodities down but you are not bother....

Your concerned is Bobrisky and Femi Adebayo.. Nigeria youths wake up and let's storm these greedy sellers

Shut up that dirty mouth please.

There are many matters that need to be addressed. Finance is just one of many.
Moral decadence is another major one.

If you can't protect your children and family from rotten culture, allow others to protect theirs.... Less than Nigerian.

Sanity is a very concerning issue.

ahmedio2017:




What is Judaism?
Jesus Christ PBUH is a word of God and what is the meaning of word of God? You and your generations is a word of God. All the miracles that he performed is by the power of God he also confirmed that in the bible. Word of God means be and it shall be. It belongs to God ONLY. If this world will comes to an end it will be through the word of God. So why are you confusing yourself.

What is Islam?

Would there be any existence of Islam without Judaism? You don't have knowledge of your religious history.
That's why you sects can claim Moses, David, Solomon were Muslims.

Quran says Jesus is a Word and Spirit that came from God.
This is not the same as the first man and woman which were created from the dust. And their offsprings which were created through procreation.

So if Jesus alone was made differently, then what is he? Why is he so peculiar.
You need to find that out. Because it's more than just being a prophet of God.

The Bible which was before the Quran has called him the Word of God. His own apostles called him the Word of God.

Also, how do you make sense of the term "Only Begotten Son of God". (Which Quran misinterpreted)?

"The Word of God" as they called him exactly fits in the terminology of "Only Begotten Son of God." because he came out from God.

God begat his Word. A prefect representative of himself.

Templee333:
our ancestors who had no bible or heard about Jesus knew better than a modern christian. Was Jesus not the 2nd Adam? Was John the baptist not Elijah?

Jesus being called 2nd Adam is a metaphor.

Did Elijah die?

Decarbonisation:


Wetin make I come do for the God wey create Jesus?

Jesus was the created.
His origin name is The Word of God. He is the Spirit of God. Just as your Soul and Spirit lies within you and comes out from you. You are a Trinity-being.

The name Jesus was given for the sake of humanity's salvation.
It's a powerful name that heals the sick, drives away devils, and atones for sins.

The Word of God simply entered Mary to put on flesh and blood and become human. But he has been existing before the angels of God or Heaven itself.

ahmedio2017:
Jesus is a word of God..(be and it shall be).
The heaven and the earth and everything inside are word of God (be and it shall be).

Jesus Christ PBUH is a MUSLIM.

Jesus is THE Word of God. He created all things. John 1:1,14

Only Begotten Son of God is Word of God or Spirit of God. Quran verified this but misinterpreted Son of God as a carnal conception.

Jesus cannot be a Muslim, neither Moses or Solomon etc.
He was a Jew and Muslims hates Jews. And want to kill them and drive them away from the promised Land God gave to them (Jerusalem and surrounding places).

King David, Solomon etc ruled in Jerusalem.

Note: We humans are Trinity-beings.
The Body, Soul and the Spirit

absoluteSuccess:


Brother, you shall know the truth, and the truth will set you free. Lets not argue on dogma, just do your own research.

I've spent years on this site and at one time I almost lost my life for my researches from a fellow from this same site who must be right that I'm wrong.

He and his friends set me up, but God delivered me from their traps, I don't want a vicious circle, I am not controversial, just that we cab always learn and analyse the truth. Let's end the conversation sir.

I'm not saying you are wrong, I only think differently.

My thinking comes from readings and comments from the earliest manuscripts such as the Masoretic text, the Vulgate and so on and so forth.

There were events and early bible manuscripts and Judaism before KJV.

Your different thought is indeed different and contrary to details found in the Bible.

If you are a Christian, why don't you have faith that God can preserved his Word?

You read polluted documents/manuscripts and think you are learning.

KJV is the first English Bible translation supervised by King James of England. Translated by 450 Hebrew and Greek SCHOLARS (not average translators).

They were carefully vetted to ensure the originality of the sources. And translations were mediated by Hebrew language experts who also understood Greek.
And they were not 4 experts but 450 experts.

There will be many false manuscripts springing UpTo attack the authencity of the Bible. Don't fall for it. Some will say "Banned from the Bible" etc. Don't fall for those crap. The kingdom of darkness are ceaselessly raging against the Truth.

KJV Bible comprises the stories, laws and prophecies of the prophets of Israel which were practising Judaism. That's called the OLD TESTAMENT.

Please can you guys give me good recommendations about virtual credit/debit cards to use and make international payments online?

Thank you.

absoluteSuccess:


Baba, the teaching of Christ is one, the doctrine of the church is another. if you have an institution founded and you just step aside for a while, by the time you leave and come back, you will not recognize what you have left behind with men and "improvements" that would have happened to your teaching in the hand of "learned men".

None of these people created the universe, how do they understand interplanetry transportations this much because of the death of Christ? If what we are to get from the Jew, according to Christ is salvation, at what point does "rapture" becomes "salvation"? mind you, "the kingdom of God" that Christ was preaching on his own after baptism is the salvation that he's talking about. Salvation is salvation.

Salvation is not rapture.

Salvation is the hope of the fathers of faith and the promise of God for mankind. That's exactly what Christ came to redeem. if we can base our faith in Christ on salvation as "promised" (through prophets) before "redemption"(through Christ), we will look into the prophets (promises) to accept the doctrine of our redemption (Christ), or else we are simply creating "religion" after our passion.

for instant, if you go back to the passage of the trinity, you have something like, "there are three that beareth record in heaven, the father the son and the spirit" Okay, that said. But to whom do they bear this records, who is, (or are) their witness(es) and why are they bearing this records? You can't mystify God as much as you can't describe God. let Him be God alone.

Then, why is it important that we know they are bearing records?

Now immediately after that was said, another line follows where we have people bearing record "in" the earth, the blood, the water and the spirit. If the first set of record bearer parallel with the second set of record bearers, and we were told about this too in no clear terms the contents of their records and the purpose of our knowing these details, then its "the ultimate creation of mystery", and then the final evidence of a parallel universe.

since that's not what "christendom" intended to push, we then have this mystery as "Trinity". So its not God-made trinity but man-made doctrine mystified by that bible passage. Now before we can actually do justice to this, we both have to start off from the same launchpad, that possibly in the oldest christian manuscript, this passage does not exist. If it does, it means there's an enclave outside the earth like the heaven where God is, the universe is just two planets, heaven and earth, from this analogy, with parallel divinity.

Trinity: Enter Islam

From this mystification of deity, we (christendom) are the ones who created "Islam". What the church fathers tried to settle (Arianism) at the convention of Nicaea returned back as "Islam" much later from Arabia, this time around with bloody prosecution of faith and vengeance till this day. Let God be God, let Christ be Christ. Let the Spirit of God be the Spirit of God, but we said no, they are one but three.

Let's say the bible said we will be all caught up in the sky, how many old manuscripts have we checked to validate this was the position of the church at the onset of time? how many disciples of Christ hold this belief as what Christ taught his disciples and how many times did Christ preached this as sermon and prayed about it?

Is rapture the "salvation package" that God have for mankind? So, the prophets does not matter, only the word of Paul will do. That's creating an imaginary universe and telling God to do as you wish. We can only think as men, we cannot think for God with our limitations.

1 i) Please kindly explain John 8:42, John 16:27-28, John 15:26
ii) And convincingly tell me how its different from Trinity.

2) i)When Jesus says "one shall be taken and the other left" what does it mean?
ii) When Paul says "and we shall be caught up to be with him in the air". What does that mean?
iii) How is that different from the Rapture?


Fyi, I never said Rapture means salvation.
Salvation is the redemption of the soul from sin.

CANNABIS IS VERY MEDICINAL AND THE SOLUTION TO MANY HEALTH ISSUES PEOPLE ARE SPENDING MILLIONS IN HOSPITAL FOR.

FDA CATEGORIZING AND BANNING CANNABIS SATIVA WITH OTHER SYNTHETIC DRUGS IS CRIMINAL PHARMACOLOGICAL/POLITICAL INTEREST.

Nigerians should better get educated. OTHER NATIONS WE COPIED HAVE ALREADY LIFTED THE BAN.

Simdyofficial:
Weed should be legal with control

Most people calling it weed is one of the reasons the medical benefits of Cannabiz has not been disseminated properly to the population.

A sexually immoral god or prophet tempting people with sexual rewards.

Muslims run out of Islam. It's a promise of a false heaven that doesn't exist.

Handsomejok:
I had done everything for the marriage to work but all my effort were in vain because my wife refused to amend which she had made it clear to me that after our first separation she did came back to me because she had nowhere to stay with the children and I keep having reccuring dreams of her wanting me dead since she is not ready to work on the marriage and I had decided to put an end to the marriage for the sake of our children I will not send her packing neither will I take custody of the children I will let her and the children to stay in the rented house and I will move out of the house and I will be sending upkeep money 15k every month I hope I had made a good decision for my own sanity ?

If you can come to the Lord's Chosen Church at Ijesha and receive prayers from GOD's anointed servant then the situation will change.

So many broken marriages and problems God has intervened when they came to the Lord's Chosen Church.

So whether it's a spiritual or physical problem, God of Chosen(Jesus) is up to the task.

Athena6:
Last week I created a thread talking about how my japa plans have been crushed due to the increase in dollar.

Many adviced me to invest in dollar, this was the advice they gave me months ago but I did follow through because I wasn't sure.
My last thread hit front page and 90% of the comments were advising me to invest in dollars, one even quoted that in the past 10 years, the dollar haven't fallen but it increases every year.

One even called me a weak minded person and I am scared to take risks.
After everything I thought to myself, since so many people felt this dollar will keep on rising, maybe I should invest afterall life is all about risks.

Well guess what, dollar have decreased, I invested 3M in buying dollars and now in today exchange rate. I have 2.6M now and I either cash out now or hope it will increase.

Right now, I am very angry.
Those giving me advice should come and contribute the 400k for me o

Another thing, do you think the dollar will increase or should I just cut my loses.
I am so tired 😫

Who told you dollar is rising. Hahahaha.
It's crashing gradually. And Biden is inflating and spending carelessly. When the Dollar crashes or bubble bursts it will be sudden. And alll currencies pegged to dollar will be worthless.
Go for gold and silver.

let him come to The Lord's Chosen where anointed Serant of God will pray for him and he will be healed.
What doctors cannot do, God of Chosen has done countless times.

absoluteSuccess:


Rapture, in layman's language is when two people are in farm, and one man is taken, and the other is not, at the sound of the trumpet of the archangel.

That "taken" like it was in the case of Enoch, is "rapture" in the personal sense of the word to whom it is pertained.

Recall, Christ was not raptured. He went into the sky in his resurrected body to heaven.

Christian "rapture" is mass movement of faithful Christians to heaven. It has not yet been, so we can't say it's like what we have read of.

You said it's not biblicaland it was forged by a group of Clergymen.
But there you are, using the words of Jesus "one taken and the other left".

Well, I'm glad to inform you it's not only Jesus who spoke about it. Paul spoke two times about it with clear description. And John insinuated it by talking about the wedding of the Bridegroom taking place before Jesus Second coming to Earth to stop the Antichrist. Revelation 19:7-9

1 Thessalonians 4:15-17 '15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord."

1 Corinthians 15:51 "51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory."

There is no word called RAPTURE therein. But it is strongly expressed. So is "TRINITY"

absoluteSuccess:


The last passage of the book of revelation said it all. Moreso, RAPTURE is less than 300 years.

But the concept of rapture itself is Hellenistic infusion into Christian doctrine by early church fathers.

It's ultimately from Plato, dear brother. The early church fathers interpreted the Christian canon from platonic philosophy, from where we came about rapture in it's pristine form.

Right after the destruction of Jerusalem and at the end of the era of the Apostles of Christ, the headquarters of Christian faith moved from Jerusalem to Alexandria, Egypt, the citadel of learning all over the world at this phase in time.

There's were you have the fertile imagination of great teachers and ecumenical processes going on, and you must have heard of St Augustus of Hippo and so on and so forth, these are examples of church fathers.

How did they tried to explain Christianity philosophically? That explains partly what shaped some of the things we believed.

What does the Rapture mean? Can you define it

absoluteSuccess:


Thanks for your feedback, I'm not a witness, I'm a Christian with no sentimental attachment to any dogma, I don't want to justify any doctrine or dogma, let's just see how some of the claims we make today really evolved.

Just try and read up on the argument that led to Trinity. So also, keep an open mind and do not invent a word to simplify the doctrines, let the word of God comes to you as you have it in the scripture.

You can read up on church history for this.

You mean read up on Church history for the truth about Trinity?

But it is sufficiently expressed in the Bible already, only that the terminology Trinity isn't there.
Just as the word "THE RAPTURE" isn't in the Bible. But we all know it's severally expressed there.

absoluteSuccess:


Very true, they pushed the early Christians to the catacombs, prisonyards, arenas, not until their emperor, Constantine eventually succumbed to Christianity when he had a dream in which he saw a flaming sword in Cross form and a voice said "in this, conquer".

I think the Christendom owes the adoption of symbolism of the cross to this man, and to subvert arianism, the Trinity at the convention of Nicai. It's this line that resonates with the claim that the Bible is tampered with, the Jehovah witnesses resolves this complications in Christianity.

The almighty Rome equally succumbed to the Vandals who ultimately overran her empire afterwards.

As a non-member of Jehovah witness I think we will disagree on many matters. But on the foundation of Islam and Roman Catholism we seem to agree.

Trinity is expressed in the Bible. Just as Rapture is also expressed. The terminologies were later coined to give the expression a name.

Trinity simply means Jesus and the Holyghost are inside God and came out from him. Just as your Soul and Spirit comes out from your body.

John 8:42 "I proceeded forth and came from God"

John 16:27-28 "I came out from God neither came I of myself, but he sent me'

John 15:26 '....even the spirit of Truth which proceeded forth from the Father'.

Matthew 28:19 "Baptise all men in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holyghost.

John 1:1 "The Word was with God and was God
All things were made by him".

There is also 1 John 5:7 KJV but that is controversial because many translations removed it from the Bible. But they didn't know to remove John 8;42, John 16:27-28, John 15:26

I hope this can make front-page. Seun

TenQ you're doing well.

absoluteSuccess:


The true Palestinians were the original Philistines of the Bible. They were seafarers. The people of that time have moved countless times like the entire people of this same region, including the Israelites of the northern kingdom that the Persians completely removed and scattered, planting another people in their stead 720bce.

Then the little stump of Judah, comprising of Jerusalem and Lachish was taken to captivity by the Babylonians much later. The Muslim interest in Jerusalem was after the first caliphate Uthman captured what is left of Jerusalem in the 6th century AD.

Lands don't move, people do and they can always retrace their steps homeward. Quran was collated much after the prophet of Islam like you have rightly said. Palestine was how Roman choosed to call Israel to obliterate the stubborn Jewish nationalism of the Roman age, which ultimately led to the final destruction of the nation of Israel 72 AD.

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Romans* the same empire that subverted Christianity because they could not completely stop Christianity through genocide and persecution. John 11:48, acts 8:4

absoluteSuccess:


Are you a Muslim?

Can you stomach this as an Arab man who heard something like this, prior to Islam?

The reason for my question is this: Allah never spoke before the advent of Islam, how then did he became ruthless against the Jewry all of a sudden?

The Arab and the Jewry lived as close neighbors without any ranour or strive, the bani kurayza and two other tribes lived in Medina long before the Hegira.

I think if you want to punish someone for killing the prophet, you first have to agree that the prophet truly died, why punish Jews when you know Isa was not killed?

Lol I actually sounded like muslim.
I'm a Christian.

Majority of the masses don't know that almost all Muslims support Israel's removal from the land/Jerusalem or destruction because of Islam.

That's why all the Arab media automatically go into LIE MODE to defend Hamas and defame Israel. .

Actually, the writer of the Quran was Mohammed or one of his Companions. Who claimed that the Quran was given to him by Angel Gabriel in a cave.

huptin:


Keep deceiving yourself, go and establish a mosque in China first. Then try India, Japan, poland etc.

The prophecy you quoted happened about 2000 years ago when the Romans surrounded Jerusalem and burnt it to the ground by the way.

So if it has been fulfilled, why is Israel still compassed about enemies seeking to destroy her, and threatening world war.

So where is this part in the prophesy?
Or what is happening now is not in the Bible?

Exceed15:
This is what Hamas have brought upon them . Stop shielding terrorist.

The destruction of Israel is a responsibility bestowed by Allah on the Muslims.

Not only does Allah claim he has disowned and cursed Israel for killing their prophets but also prophesies that in the end the Muslims will eliminate all the Jews in the return of Mahdi.

...the tree will say to the muslim, there is a Jew hiding behind me, come and kill him.

Cc: Absolutesuccess