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Just some advice for you:

1. after a break up a girl is usually vulnerable and are the easiest to take advantage of
2. she falls for the first guy who whisper sweet in her ears and show the least bit of affection, which is just a temporary bandaid to the wound dat comes with a break up, never a cure. in your case, dat guy was your exs boyfriend which make ur situation even worse
3. what you feel is called lust/infatuation (the feelings can even be stronger than that of love) and it leaves you living in fantasy. jump back to reality and run far far away from your exs brother

how old are you?

Every one of Muddy-boys posts contain the word 'poverty' and "destitute". Seems you have a fixture with lack. And for someone who comes around only in the middle of the night, you sure seem like one to haunt "cafes".

Your repeated attempts to bring "Christ" into the issue make me laugh. Use sensible ridicule, child and always always stand against your contemporaries, not your seniors. Now, before I believed, I was human and cannot remember where I am asked to stop being human because I believe. If this were a real life confrontation, it would have ended long ago - you'd be tied up by my boys and put inside the trunk of a car to re-consider your life for maybe 7 days without food or water. So when you keep saying christ-like, you don't know and how I wish you did. I am a human believer with human foibles (need a dictionary?) and the right to express anger with idiots. Jesus whipped people, if you forgot. And here, your bottom is being shown a koboko (though verbally) and we can see evidence of your wailing.

My writings to you are informed by the shallowness of your life and thoughts - you say I'm hypocritical, NOT Christ-like because I do not sit quietly allowing you insult God. Yet you defend your okada-rider rapist father. You say I "rant" when you combine multiple languages and bad grammar in spewing out "abuse" at all and sundry. Do you think your moronic conduct is the type the celebrated Atheists on this forum got known by? They read, studied and came up with information that sincerely, atimes shocks me. If then I have not agreement for their beliefs, I needs MUST respect minds that can bring out such powerful arguments. Compare them, to "Mudley313" - childish, insultive, idiotic, snot-nosed, incoherent, half-educated, intellectually lacking YET hoping for recognition! Maybe among your other yahoo confederates, boy, at the cybercafes you get to at 10pm and leave at 6am. And I know you sign in for an hour or so day-time to see if any mugu replied so you'll be quick to point out day time responses. But a look at your profile shows when you browse. Or well, maybe its after you're off work from the lebanese factory where you're a labourer and do 14 hours daily (6m - 8pm)

Its fun using such as you for target practise when I'm not busy, boy. Its a distraction from more serious matters. But you might just "overload" seeing as your days are now spent waiting and studying slangs to use to "attempt" riling me (a dream that won't materialize). It wouldn't do for you to blow a gasket and get fired by your lebanese master or to abuse your potential mugu thinking its "nuclearboy" you're writing to.

Salutee

blah, blah, blah. . .the rantings of a mad man. i see you're striving hard to protect your e-credibility with all these gibberish you type since life online as a screen name is the only life you have. nobody's reading all that long azz post of dog poo you keep typing. cyber cafe ni, cyber cafe ko. i live in the US you dumbf.uck

you're getting close to borderline insanity

@Mudley313:

I think Bastage was just humoring you, trying to save you from further ridicule and save us all from your moronic presence. Your pathetic attempt to reason back with him is like a worm-maggot calling out to a Man "notice me, please notice me".

You only want to catch fun so why do you get angry? Do WE seem angry when we jibe at you? Do we address others such-like with the consistence we do you? Seems funny when everyone ridicules just the one person, isn't it, especially when they are civil and mature with others? And your idea of fun is insulting the belief system of 2 Billion people each and every one of whom has more brains than you do and better communication skills? Even a baby's cries make more sense than your "speech"! But what do I expect from a chap who does 14 hours daily labouring in a biscuit making factory owned by Lebanese task-masters and then spends the next 8 hours at a cybercafe - you ought be angry but it wasn't God that made your life the misery it is.

All you had to have done was read, when in high school, rather than contracting the syphilis that has your brain mirroring Idi Amins today. Smoking pawpaw leaves with MJ, drinking cheap spirits and the love-peddlers you favoured has brought you to this point. Be angry at them.

Pray to God for help and He'll send a solution. In the meantime and as "Bastage" said - Neither atheist, agnostic or fundamentalist sees any sense in your posts

seriously, do you have a life outside of the internet? i pity you and your degenerate family

The infamous South african vuvuzelas (the continous drowning bee-like noises from em plastic trumpets during games) has been a source of controversy in the world cup. Check here: http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5g8zfbbGc260dt5xfYMkOswTcNiCg or here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/world_cup_2010/8737455.stm

Many claim it should be banned. "France captain Patrice Evra has already blamed the noise generated by the vuvuzelas, which has been likened to the drone of thousands of bees, for his side's poor showing in their opening group game against Uruguay which finished goalless. He said: "We can't sleep at night because of the vuvuzelas. People start playing them from 6am. "We can't hear one another out on the pitch because of them."

I myself i live in the US and trying to get americans to watch the world cup most complain of not being able to stand the continous annoying buzzing sound. Personally, as one who has seen a lot of big games in my life, i'd prefer to hear the natural fan chants that makes watching the game of football part of what it is in regards to the atmosphere, but if you've watched any south african game before, even their league games, you'd understand the vuvuzelas has always been a south african thing.

so, what do y'all think? should the vuvuzelas be banned in stadiums to make the world cup less annoying to others (shops in south africa has supposedly ran out of vuvuzela ear plugs) or just allow the south africans do their thing?

@Mudley dear (oh, how you wish it was a broad writing that ehn  ) :

Told you you're retarded. So when your mam got pregnant, your dad used a condom right? Haven't you now shown that you were the mistake I wondered at? And at the same time proved you're in heat and unable to do anything about it cos only a child would write what you did about conception.

Deprived Virgin baby, looking for a roll in the hay, angry at the world, flailing out at everyone! Its not God's fault, boy. Humble yourself, get educated, shave your back, descale your face, have your teeth cleaned and shave your nostrils - then maybe, just maybe, you'll find an old diseased who.re ready to take you on and calm your boiling blood. But we'll miss you O, cos she'll take your yearly allowance for cyber-cafes before allowing you which means bye bye to mud & company from NL

oboy, na kolo you dey so o

this is a good advice for the young boy mudley.I hope he takes it.I doubt if one can find senses in any of his over 400 Posts till now rather than insults&senselessness

see joblessness. no seriously, why are you following nuclearboy around on some sought of imagined e-tag team toothless assault. are you both gay lovers?

You are wasting your time and if you try to fight fire with fire, any post you make will be a waste of time. Neither atheist, agnostic or fundamentalist will see any sense in your posts. All they will see are the insults.
You cannot beat fundamentalism with harsh words. In fact, you cannot beat it with logic as most are so blind that they do not want to see. But logic and reasoning is the best weapon in the armoury that you have. It does them the most damage. As I said earlier, without it, you end up looking no different from them.
Insults aren't going to get you anywhere. Sure, it's nice to give a broadside now and again, but they should be used sparingly. Many here know that to destroy your argument, all they've got to do is get you to lose your temper. That way, any sense that you have written is hidden in a cloud of condemnation.

@ bolded - i'm not on a mission to "beat" anybody, i'm just here to have fun (you can tell by my thread titles) and dont take mere words on a screen from faceless internet geeks that seriously for me to loss an ounce of my temper, it is they who are quick to get their panties in a bunch and usually start with the personal insult, i just respond back verbatim. i dont take this internet stuff that seriously like these no-life-having e-christian online trolls. logic is not in the dictionary of these rabid christian religious fanatics (especially today's modern-day naija ones) its why i resort to the language they understand. its no better than attempting to use logic and rationality in trying to convince a mad man on the street that he's not the president and cars on the streets are not luxury cruisers

its just funny how these supposedly christ-like naija followers of a jewish carpenter conduct themselves in such hypocritically unchrist-like manner. atleast, for me, according to them, i'm already condemned to spend eternity in the fiery torture chamber of their draconic jewish deity nicknamed yahweh

More half-literate vituperation from a retarded cybercafe addict! My understanding is that one spermatozoa wins the race to fertilization; seeing as you were the fastest, that must have been some sick pedigree. Even at that, its a wonder how you didn't end a blood clot. What a mistake. I guess you were the one God allowed to come to show the rest of this generation how lucky we are. 2 left legged skunk!

Keep on with your asinine vocabulary which doesn't suprise me seeing as your greatest ambition is to watch the world cup. Thug, omo adedibu, insolent mongrel. I'm sure the hair that grows out of your nostrils connects to your beard. (see didinrin looking for a mirror to confirm ) Better go submit yourself to a laboratory for checks so they tell you what species you are. Then go look for work as a man friday (the height of your intellectual prowess)

^^^the rants of a rabid naija e-christian fanatic. as hypocritical as they come. way to be christ-like. the confines of uselu awaits your kind. oloshi

. . .and sorry internet cyber cafe's are not the norm where i'm at. you poverty stricken peasant. okpemu of the highest order

Nuclearboy,ignore this f.ool called mudley.I said hes not better than your office assistant&he simply exhibited the character of an office cleaner. U are helping him to keep his senseless thread alive. When i have your time mudley, i'll expose your stupidity in every section of NL.

^^^another imbecilic zombie living in the delusional notion that e-ganging on a mere screen name has any effect on the real world. when you have my time? you sure are one jobless destitute. i thought you were asking me the other time to come have a drink with you? f.aggot

Go Eagles !!!

But seriously, heart dey cut me

Now back to my regular self. . .

Mudley,i taught u would make a little sense in your response,but as usual, you displayed retardity.

its "thought" not taught and "retardation" not retardity. you im.becile

^^^ Yes, Toba, other Atheists have noticed his unparalleled stupidity and thats why they keep away from anything that has him involved - no one likes to associate with a loser and this mudley313 guy is the greatest loser this forum has come across.

like i give a flying fvck about forming associations with faceless screen names on an internet forum. i have a life mister, you try go get one. life does not revolve around an online internet forum. stop taking this crap way too seriously forming e-cliques and sh.t. there's more to life than this internet sh.t; its called REALITY - where you're much more of a loser

This is a human to consider?   Atimes I wonder how 2 people can come together and actually bring forth something as idiotic as this - the dude should have been born a donkey. He has the mental capability of a dead flower.

(clears throat). first off, thanks for the christ-like compliments. but seriously tho, i have to blame your incompetent father for not flushing you with the condom down the toilet after paying for s.ex with your pro.stitute mother. now look what the world has to accomodate, a mentally retarded, maladjusted and hypocritical religious fanatic. do us all a favor and walk your retarded azz down the middle of a busy freeway with your eyes closed. you would be doing your poverty stricken family a huge favor; trust me

You didn't listen in class then. Mark is thought by scholars to have been written within 60 to 70 years of the purported time of Jesus' death. That's hardly 3 generations.

correct me if i'm wrong, but from my own understanding the gospels of matthew and luke are the only christian writings in existence that mention anything about a virgin birth. none of the letters of paul (written much earlier than any gospel), none of the letters of later christian leaders, neither the gospels of mark nor john nor any of the earliest gnostic gospels, nor any other canonical text, ever mentions a virgin birth. paul, the earliest christian writer, actually uses terms to refer to mary that would only be used to refer to a married, sexually-active woman. mark, the earliest gospel writer, mentions no virgin birth at all, and the writer of john (the last gospel to be written), in addition to having no virgin birth tale, actually calls Jesus the "son of Joseph" in chapter 6

i also understood that although the virgin birth does not appear in the Christian tradition until about 80-85 C.E.,  it seemed to disappear from the christian tradition after about 95-100 C.E. the virgin birth may have, in fact, not even been a widespread belief among 1st century christians. it may well have been a regional thing among jewish christians living in a small area of roman jerusalem, established first in writing by the author of matthew, continued by the gentile author of luke, and then dying out thereafter, until resurrected by 2nd and 3rd century christians who were beginning to study and assemble early christian writings and attempting to develop a doctrinal view of the meaning of jesus's life(its why i pinned its widespread circulation at 3 generation).

He didn't say it was Egyptian. If you read again carefully he said it was the egyptian version of the myth.

thank you. the egyptian version ususally didn't involve a heavenly god impregnating a virgin, but it most certainly included a god-king impregnating his queen to produce a god-prince who would someday rule the kingdom.

from my understanding mithraism, the story of romulus and remus, and the general idea that great men must be conceived by gods rather than regular mortals, explains the genesis and development of the virgin birth stories surrounding jesus. mithras being born of a virgin was one of only many stories about his birth - others, like you stated, said he sprang from a rock. this mythology was part of the way that later romans justified raising romulus to the level of a god himself. julius caesar had a statue built next to romulus and other roman gods, which was one of the actions that led to his assassination cos he seemed to be claiming godship.

Mudley is often muddled up. But I will for my part pardon him because the bizzarre claims of many religions (particularly the christian faith) are quite enough to excercise any person's patience or sanity. It certainly has excercised mine violently in the past: and I dare say pushed me to the point where I have made remoseless enemies (online!) of some previously precious friends.

co-sign. bastage, i'd like to apologize for my earlier insultive attacks (although you started the name-calling) cos i'm actually learning here. this had always been my initial intentions for posting on the religious forum but i soon figured the so-called christians will rather resort to christ-like personal insults, its why i decided to play it their way. i'm no christian and as an original warri boy i'm very comfortable with the an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth type gutter way of communication

SLOWPOKE.

Your vocabulary is limited to "slangs" found on the web and in childish high school gangs - "blow off", "fuc-king", "sh.t", etc

Dullard bullet ko, full metal jacket ni. Celebrated slowpoke!

you no-life-having online wanna-be pseudo-intellectual. incase your pea-sized brain dont know, this is an internet forum not a college thesis paper and thus i'd type however the hell i wanna. sorry i'm not like your sick pathetic self who indulges in back and forth banters with faceless people on the internet trying to proove how intellectually challenged your lame azz is. i guess you go out to brag to your friends how e-intellectual you are, that is if you have any real life friends. log-off, go out and do something productive, there's a lot going on offline. go watch the world cup or something. deluded douchbag. ewww. . .

Barrister,i'll advice u ignore this slowpoke that doesn't have a life.People like him visits cafe to browse&sit comfortably in ignorance to insult people on line& when they see such in real life,they begin to say yes sir/yes ma. Do u think mudley is better than your office assistant?

shake my head @ this imb.ecile. u forgot to include your imaginary daily schedule to your post of how you need to catch a flight for your imaginary phd programme. and lmao @ cyber cafe. you think everyone is like your hungry azz browsing in cyber cafes. na really "they begin to say yes sir/yes ma". you're the type of broke irritating no do wells who solicit for pennies whenever one visits naija. olodo-rapata

nuclearboy:
Roast moi? That'd be the day, dear boy! Such would require a focused mind, a brain and a communication skill you cannot fathom.

1st, my supposed "insanity" cannot be compared to the obvious frustrations in your life that have you going around showing your mental virginity, belligerence and nastiness in childish posts. Seems to me you're hoping the "heavy-weights" who know what they are saying when they attack religion, will come to your aid. Sad (for you) seeing as they've put you on the scales, found a single digit IQ and prefer to walk away. NL has seen some really intelligent Atheists and dude, they wouldn't be caught breathing the same air you do (if you actually use oxygen rather than the carbon-dioxide I suspect seeing you have the brain of an Iroko tree)

Go grow up (somplace inside a waste system) and read/reflect on the emptiness of your existence. That will put you in the position where even when you do not agree with another man's belief, you will avoid trying to ridicule such. You ARE a toy gun, dude, in a 4 year old's hands - totally without effect. Looking in a mirror will bring tears to your eyes.

Roast me! I laugh in morse code

says the african online wanna-be pseudo-intellectual who believes that a jewish carpenter executed like a common criminal 2000 years ago is god

shake my head @ u taking this internet sh.t way too seriously. heavyweights ni, heavyweights ko

I hope you realize your uselessness and blow your f.uckin brains out with a desert eagle and the bullet goes through your skull and through your room mate who then falls dead over your body thus fulfilling your life long fantasy of dying with another man on top of you.

Bastage:
Heh!! I can tell you that intellectually and on the topic of religion, I dwarf a "person" such as yourself. So actually, on this subject, you would almost certainly be the "retard".

All you have is what's been spoon-fed to you and then you repeat it parrot fashion ad infinitum. At the end of the day, you are no different from a Christian fundamentalist - just another ignorant, blinkered fool.

And your sarcasm? Hmmm, I think that's basically an excuse for yet more ignorance. You used the Virgin Birth as an example of the weakness of the Christian doctrine yet you have no clue what it actually means or from whence it originated. Claiming sanctuary in the realms of sarcasm only shows that you have nothing meaningful to reply with.

oh, shut the fvck up. i'm not one to brag about my personal intellectualism like y'all internet geeks on an annonymous online forum. but just so your daft-self know, i took several religious classes in college. and yea, virgin birth is sure one of the countless weaknesses of christian doctrines. it began to circulate long after jesus' death (i think, about 3 generations after) as a result of the natural progression of the "mythology" surrounding jesus.

The concept of a great man being the literal son of a god, and therefore born to a human virgin who is impregnated by said god, was a common theme in ancient mythology.

The most prominent ofsuch theme during the time and location in which Jesus lived was the mythology surrounding Romulus, the founder of Rome. He and his twin brother were said to have been birthed by a Vestal Virgin who was raped by a god and later put to death for having children. This mythology was part of the way that later Romans justified raising Romulus to the level of a god himself.

Another common virgin birth mythology, known to many people in the 1st century, is the egyptian version from the Mithras cult. Much of what we understand today as Christian traditions were actually Mithraic traditions, later overlayed onto the emerging Christian religion. Mithras was said to have been born of a virgin and incidentally, his birthday was celebrated on December 25th as well.

u happy now, u retarded slowpoke

nuclearboy:
@Bastage:

The dude has no life, no ambition and nothing to look forward to. He blames God and is looking (crying?) for attention. I compare him to a young male elephant on heat who can't find a partner. They're known to pull down trees then attempt to mount them. But it will pass and he'll be restored to his natural self without the anger - a slow retarded self-servicer who haunts cyber-cafes in search of what to do.

^^^another retarded slowpoke on the loose. like little kids you believe in fairy tales and imaginary beings and do not think that makes you nothing short of an imb.ecile. how unfortunate

toba:
Mudley is the most ignorant person in the religion section. I've told him severally that hes a retard, now its be said by 2 more people.
At the end of the year u must get an award as the most [size=15pt]meaningless[/size] poster in the Religion section. Enjoy your folly

and the biggest okpemu of them all. a cyber cafe geek who brags about being a phd holder but writes like a 3 year old. olodo-rapata

^^^ Tell you what, the solution to all this "turenchi" is rather simple.

Pay a visit past deaths door and when you get out there, ask why God is so bothered about your particularly miserable existence that He keeps following you around pleading for your acknowledgement of him. Told you once, you remind of a rogue elephant in estress. Too much anger

Abi the real truth is you feel ignored by God, want a "daddy" and are subconsciously seeking a "daddy" on NL? Olabowale would have suited your intellect and twould have been really nice to see you do your ablutions then pray on Lagos-Ibadan

same ol deflective christ-like tactics of name-callings and personal attack in defense of your imaginary jewish master

i'd roast you for your incoherent blabberings but you probably are already on the brink of insanity so i'll take the high road

Bafafna Bafana all the way

but e nor go easy. . .mexico is suppose to be a way superior team but we pray for home advantage; let this first WC in africa not go to waste performance wise for the african reps o

Seriously tho, I would say that you are giving the impression that you are severely retarded.
The questions you ask are pathetic and show no knowledge of scripture.

I'm not even particularly religious but even I can see that you're talking rubbish and asking pedantic, silly questions which are either based on ignorance or are just looking for an argument. Your whole reason for being here seems to be just to denigrate Christians with absolutely no thirst to learn from thier replies.

If you studied scripture, religion and history, you'd be able to work out the reasoning behind the myth of the Virgin Birth. The ridiculous statement that the god had to impregnate another man's wife because he couldn't find one for himself, just shows how little you actually know about theology.
And if you don't know about a subject, it's best that you keep your mouth shut instead of trying to condemn it. Only with knowledge can you argue. Otherwise, in your own words, you just look retarded.

mallam mugu; you ever heard bout the word sarcasm before?

now clap for your retarded self

To make it easy for a simpleton's mind to understand, the rules "basically" say "To the reprobate, I show Myself same". The chap who seeks reason to believe I do not exist (in effect), will find reasons to support his assertion. However, his very existence will be a travesty and ridicule of himself.

Those are issues worth considering. I remember thinking some on this forum were like this but good sense showed them mature true humans, not children trying to feel among by saying "I am a scientist and do not believe in God" yet not knowing jack about "reason". You, dude, should consider truth rather than this wallpaper like inaneness

blah, blah, blah. . .

mehn, just sharrrap there

It's man who is most definitely bothered - not God. He Man created the religions and grew them by means of fear.
What better way to sell them than by saying "If you don't believe in our god, you will go to Hell"?

Blame man. Not an imaginary God.

^^^simple as A-B-C

how else would one explain your noetic's disdain for knowledge and healthy debates? I laugh in korean

^^^corrected

(re-read your initial response and see if it had anything whatsoever to do with my OP)

the original post is a QUESTION i posed. instead of you guys to either ignore it or just simply answer and keep it moving, you get all emotional and sentimental and go into your usual mode of jumping straight into defense of (and attack for) your all-powerful christian god


your inital response. . .

Is this not a contradiction?

on one hand u question God's reaction to the fact that some peeps like u deny His existence . . . on the other hand u talk His being praised and worshipped. are u confused?
whats your position? is it that He exists or not? sounds like u are very bitter and as such can hardly construct an objective argument here.

So tell me what happened . .  , did someone u loved die of an incurable disease or what?

and you wonder why people think you christian folks are retarded

Yep. He created us to have tet-a-tet fellowship with us from time to time. I wonder why he does not get himself a wife. . .

@ bolded. . .he evidently cant, thats why he had to impregnate another man's wife, mary, wife of joseph. . .and gave birth to himself in the process. seriously tho, christians are retarded

Is this not a contradiction?

on one hand u question God's reaction to the fact that some peeps like u deny His existence . . . on the other hand u talk His being praised and worshipped. are u confused?
whats your position? is it that He exists or not? sounds like u are very bitter and as such can hardly construct an objective argument here.

So tell me what happened . .  , did someone u loved die of an incurable disease or what?

https://i547.photobucket.com/albums/hh473/Redelephant47_bucket/Coleman_wtf.gif

u ever heard of a hypothetical question?

now i have to be bitter or sumone i loved have to die of an incurable disease because i dont believe in jewish myths. i laugh in guapanese. you christians really are one crazy bunch

@Noetic:

Been awhile bro. How how? Meanwhile, the question you ought have asked is when God came down to complain to OP for his refusal to recognise/worship/acknowledge Him.

One would think OP (being miffed at this vaingloriousness) ought totally avoid any mention or discussion of "mr yahweh" - on the contrary, he goes around hyperventilating at the thought that "vaingloriousness" hasn't seen him fit enough to count him worthy of ANY mention/regard/consideration whatsoever and so throws insults in hopes of being acknowledged.

How "edifying" to be ignored by your greatest antagonist   We should considdr this thread title being changed to "I am bothered God does not seem to know I exist and it pains me, body, soul and spirit"

*shake my head* religion can really make supposedly normal full grown men sound mentally retarded

It is absolutely inconceivable that an entity said to exist transcendentally above all time and space, an eternal cosmic mind of omniscient powers - could be bothered about what humans chose to believe regarding IT.

We praise God becaus of IT's awesomeness. Not because God is bothered to be praised.

the bible god is most definitely bothered bout the praise of men that's why he's supposedly created a mythical heaven for you guys to come praise and worship him for eternity in order to feed his overblown ego

i see the online christian soldiers are out in full force today in usual defence of their all powerful non-existent jewish deity who for some reason cant just seem to do anything for himself. question is, why do you consider IT awesome when IT never can do no more than a dead rat?

last time I checked billions of people living on this planet believe in a creator God . . . , so what are u talking about?

i'm talkin bout the christian god; mr. yahweh himself. . .the egotistical jewish dude upstairs who seem so obsessed with the vainglorious act of being lavished with praise and worship more than anything else

We are "his" personal life. Without us, "he" won't have any. Heck, without us, he won't have life, as exist. We are very important o!

ya, we put in order this chaos of a world he created. we make it all make sense without his imput. he comes up with a disease, we come up with a cure. When we couldnt come up with something, we came up with him.

This quote from the last paragraph says it all,trinity was not invented by the council of nicea ,rather it was merely ratified by it

still does not change the fact that your god, as he stands today as a god, was officially declared by the votes of mere mortals. Jesus was just another solar allegorical myth deity before the council of nicea, 

@poster

Poor you!  Why feed yourself with garbage, when the Holy Bible is there for you to read?

i hope what you're calling garbage is your so-called holy bible book of jewish mythologies written by bronze aged jewish men and compiled by romans.  your african self just believes that a jewish deity called yahweh transformed himself into a human jewish carpenter and is god. your god  exist only in your imagination and in the pages of these ancient jewish manuscripts written by men. that's all you have. the bible = proof of your god's existence/proof of human's ignorance of the universe

At the the council of nicaea in 325 ad.

Constantine, a converted Christian (debatably), called for a council meeting to be held in Nicea with the bishops of the Christian church to resolve escalating quarrels and controversy mounting to a bitter degree of disunity among the church leadership concerning theological issues. The failing Roman Empire, now under Constantine’s rule, could not withstand the division caused by years of hard-fought, “out of hand” arguing over doctrinal differences. He saw it not only as a threat to Christianity but as a threat to society as well. Therefore, at the Council of Nicea, Constantine demanded that the Christians settle their internal disagreements and become Christ-like agents who could bring new life into a troubled, beaten-down empire. Constantine felt “called” to use his authority to help bring about the unity, peace, and love, all for which Christ stands. He and the bishops had reason to worry about the future survival of Christianity within the Roman world empire, let alone the survival of his world empire. The Council of Nicea, led by Emperor Constantine, was the meeting to settle differences, to become like-minded, all to the glory of Christ.

The main theological issue and focus had always been about Christ. Since the end of the Apostolic Age and beginning of the Church Age, saints began questioning, debating, fighting, and separating over the question, “Who is the Christ?” Is He more divine than human or more human than divine? Was Jesus created / made or begotten? Being the Son of God, is He co-equal and co-eternal with Father God, or less and lower in status than the Father? Is the Father the One and only True God, or are the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit the One true God? “True God of True God,” “One Being, Three Persons”, a tri-unity called “Trinity”? Jesus said, “Who do you say that I am?” (Matthew 16:15).

Once the Nicea Council meeting was underway Constantine demanded that the 300 bishops make a decision by majority vote defining who Jesus Christ is. Constantine commanded them to create a “creed” doctrine that all of Christianity would follow and obey, a doctrine that would be called the “Nicene Creed,” upheld by the Church and enforced by the Emperor. The bishops voted to make the full deity of Christ the accepted position for the church. The Council of Nicea voted to make the Trinity the official doctrine of the church. However, the Council of Nicea did not invent these doctrines. Rather, it only recognized what the Bible taught, and systematized the doctrines.
http://www.gotquestions.org/council-of-Nicea.html

What does god do outside of answering/not answering prayers, causing destruction, watching over us, ignoring evil and blessing the wrong people?

Does he have friends? Enjoy things he didn't create? Vacation?

Are we the source of his happiness? Without us what would he do or be?

If all mankind went to hell would he be a pissed off lonely losing god?

What is he without us?

If you created an entire universe, and due to you not physically being there, would you be bothered if they didnt believe you exist?

would you damn them all to hell?

smh, at god with a bigger ego than Kanye. There are humans that are more "godly" than god himself, you know, ones who are void of ego, forgiving, caring, compassionate, etc.

Angels that knew n lived wit the bible god denied him. Adam and eve whom he personally use to speak wit denied him. The damn dinosaures probably denied him. Hell, even when he himself came as his own son he denied himself on the cross, and asked himself why have you/i foresaken me/myself.

May be u need to understand the language im speaking cos its simple enough for comprehension. U said 'OT bible god is wrathfull and merciless', and then asked u were his wrath caused or it wasn't caused? simple question

as a self-accclaimed phd holder, i expected better from you. you cant make up educational qualifications on the internet and start writing like a 2 year old

See contradiction. 'your god is worse than a fighter' yet the same 'god who is worse than a fighter is non existence'

How do u reconcile that?

the fictional god character written about in the bible is what i'm talkin about. d.ickhead

U want to start with your meaningless post as usual. I Have told u to stop being childish and learn to reason like an adult

nigga just shut the fvck up

@ MUDLEY, hi, i've bin around though quite busy but always in touch with nland.

um, i know you before? when i say "na today" "where have you been", i'm not asking bout you personally (i dont keep track of sceen names), its just a nigerian way of letting you know these ungodly sales of holy machandises in the name of the lord is not a new; i remember way back in the days as a kid when the late so-called archbishop idahosa was selling pawpaw seeds that cures barreness for a hundred naira each

Like most Men of Dog, the man never had opportunity to develop other skills. Church business is the only business he knows.

^^^^what i was thinking

@KAG,
Your understanding of the uncertainty principle, virtual particles etc is totally flawed.

I disagree. What part of my understanding of the uncertainty principle is flawed?


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Virtual particles do NOT emerge from nothing.

Yet again, findings show otherwise. This is your turn to show me a reliable source that shows that virtual particles don't emerge from nothing.


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In my initial response to you i had contexualised their behaviour as being within 'a complex space-time continuum' because their unusual behaviour-the way they oscillate between a form of matter ('particles) and a form of energy (waves)-at the level of quantum physics makes some scientists to consider their relationship to the whole concept of parallel universes, extradimensional space etc. Some have even posited that they are the 'graviton's being postulated to be the means by which gravity 'seeps out of our space-time continuum'.

I suspect you've missed something while reading up on the function of virtual particles. I could be wrong, but it seems you've mistaken what can possibly happen to virtual particles with a statement on their emergence. The subject of parallel universes and virtual particles is an interesting one - and one I have considered myself a few years ago. However, so far there's simply no evidence for it, while there is evidence for what I have proposed otherwise. I wouldn't put much stock in virtual particles being gravitons. Then again, this is the first time I've seen the suggestion that virtual particles could be gravitons, so I could be biased against it.


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This topic is way more complex than the way it appears on wiki, so please stick to what you actually understand.


I would suggest the same to you.

all these back and forth pseudo intellectual ramblings of you guys is starting to get redundant. stick to the damn topic

IS ANYONE BLIND YET ?

where have you been? NA TODAY?

these are people who will offer a sincere insight into the effect these "claims" have on the way Christians are viewed

to answer your question, the effects these "claims" (according to you) have on the way christians are viewed is exactly the same effect all the other outlandish claims of christians and other religious people have on christianity and the religious ---- you're probably just too deluded to see it any other way

Do you even know what Heresy means?
And who can be classified as a Heresy Heretic?
And who gave you the authority to determine doctrines?

true talk. one man's prophet is another man's heretic.

what right or authority have you to declare olumba olumba olu and his followers as heretics when you yourself claim another man as god, and unlike the olumba followers, you never even met this man and everything written about him were written with the intent of converting new followers to a new religion. no neutral source about him, and those who wrote about him were never even actual eye witness to the farytales they penned down (e.g an angel called gabriel visiting mary, his birth, his so-called resurrection etc). also, unlike the ooo followers, this man was not even african like you, practiced a foreign religion (judaism), and most probably was not even aware that sub-saharan black africans even existed.

what right or authority have you to declare joseph smith of the mormon church heretic owing to his absurd claims of being visited by angels and handed scriptural tablets and all the other absurdities, when you yourself believe in way more absurd mythical tales of a moses speaking with god disguised as fire on a tree, being handed written tablets as well and even more benign claims of him actually seeing the back of god, like god is supposed to be physical.

galileo was perceived as a heretic for his factual but then contradictory claims (as opposed to your so-called holy book written by ancient stone aged jewish men) of the earth revolving around the sun. martin lurther was perceived a heretic by the then catholic church

Heretics usually do not perceive their own beliefs as heretical. According to wikipedia "Heresy is a controversial or novel change to a system of beliefs, especially a religion, that conflicts with established dogma." and we all are aware of the variations in beliefs and pratices that plagues christianity. thus, my opening statement of one man's prophet being another man's heretic. do you know how stupid and heretical the jews think you guys are for believing a jewish carpenter executed like a common criminal is the massiah they're still expecting? same way you think the jews are stupid for still waiting on the massiah's first coming just because some book written by MEN tells you the messiah already came and is gonna be coming for a second time. same way the muslims believe you guys are stupid for thinking a man was god and god is actually divided into 3 parts, same some christians believe its stupid to pay tithes and others believe not paying tithe is robbing god and actually a sin; and so on and so forth

the moral of my story is that the benny hinns of today are no different from your pastor, the pope, joseph smith, david koresh, olumba, guru maharaji, moses or muhammed who all came with outlandish claims that only the gullible and superstitous believe in due to the absurd fears and beliefs in the unknown. they're only different in style of presentation and outrageousness of claims

If you are looking for a white woman it is,very difficult for an African. White women prefer white men. The small number of white women who do go with black guys, only go with black guys who were born and grew up in european countries.

Africans have an near impossible time getting a white women. You are better to find black women who live near you.

you do know white women are by far the easiest to get in bed, right?