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APCsupporter:
Yes the Bible is corrupt. In fact it was very heavily corrupted. That's why you see so many contradictions and versions of the bible. Yes, the original Bible was 100% authentic but a lot of people like Paul started changing it to suit their selfish desires.

The Qur'an on the other hand has been proved not to have been corrupted. Even non-muslims have agreed with this.

This is just like the case of the old testament and new testament. Why not follow the commandments of the old testaments since they are from the same God?

Its like you don't understand English .

" If you insist the Bible is corrupted then it means the Quran is not from God because God can not testify to a thing that will be corrupted. "

Those were my exact words. Please underline "God cannot testify to a thing that will be corrupted". We all accept God is all knowing and knows the future. So if God knows the future and the Qur'an is the last book of God to humanity God should have made sure not to give credibility to the Torah and Injel since He knows it will be corrupted in the Future, He should just state the Qur'an as the reference point for both the Jews Christians and Muslims and not create confusion in its purported final Words to humanity.

Muslims sha. That's how one who called himself a Muslim blocked people from commenting on his page on Facebook even though he keeps posting thrash about the Bible and Christians. God save am say him disable posting. I for fall him hand.

I even sent a message to one on whatsapp,told him I love to have a civil discussion about why we think each persons belief is the perfect will of God for mankind 'lol' the guy no reply till as am typing now and he keeps posting on Facebook that a Christians ran after he bombarded him with questions. I just laugh liars and hyprocates...

Its quite obvious Muhammed loved war a lot.

APCsupporter:
You mean christians behead people Chai. May God forgive you

Mr APCSUPPORTER please just stop kidding yourself here and displaying your ignorance.

Everything the op posted was supported directly from the Quran. He didn't add or remove. Its exactly how it is in the Quran.

This is quite simple. Let's take a closer look at what the Quran says about the Bible.

The Qur'an encourages Jews to judge by the Torah:

How come they (come) unto thee (Muhammad) for judgment when they have the Torah, wherein Allah hath delivered judgment (for them)? (5:43, MP)

And the Qur'an urges Christians to judge by the Gospel:

Let the People of the Gospel judge by that which Allah hath revealed therein. Whoso judgeth not by that which Allah hath revealed: such are evil-livers. (5:47, MP)

And it encourages Muslims to judge by the Qur'an:

And unto thee (Muslims) have We revealed the Scripture (the Qur'an) with the truth, confirming whatever Scripture was before it, and a watcher over it. So judge between them by that which Allah hath revealed. (5:48, MP)


we see that the Qur'an refers to the scriptures of the Christians and Jews as God's reliable word. Jews and Christians are commanded to consult their scriptures when desiring to know God's will. The Qur'an therefore considers these scriptures to be reliable.

So if the Quran considers the scripture reliable and the scriptures tells us Jesus Christ died on the Cross and Rose up the 3rd day. That Jesus is one In trinity and Son of God and word of God and Saviour. Then it means as a christian we are right to follow the scriptures.

If you insist the Bible is corrupted then it means the Quran is not from God because God can not testify to a thing that will be corrupted.

I believe this news without any doubt cos have had diff encounter with Muslims who are my friend but have threathend me on several occasions once you go against Muhammed or Islam.

Infact as at yesterday one was telling me emphatically that they need to fight for the course of Allah. I asked is Allah so lazy that He needs you to wield weapons on His behalf, or to kill and maim on His behalf and this friend of my replied by saying its Jihad. At that point I Shook My Head and left realising there is nothing i can at that point than leave.

Its quite unfortunate though, cos the more Muslims educated or uneducated alike try to make Islam attractive to the eyes the more they go against the instructions of the Quran and every devoted Muslim out there wants to do the will of Allah.

In conclusion I see no permanent solution to the issue of religious crisis and war. The only solution is if God Himself decides to make a definite clarification as to who and who is actually serving Him and what process is best acceptable by Him.

Am a Christian not by mouth but by sincerely believing in the death and Resurrection of Our Lord Jesus Christ but even at that I still ask God daily to show me the right path and to always keep me in check so that at the end I will be justified by what I believe in.

ejamahrandy:
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mrfabuloz:
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Likewise me too. I won 3 days ago and am unable to withdraw the money...

Ijyoung:
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OldEagle:
AT SEUN IF THE HOLY BOOK WHICH YOU INSULT IS OF MAN THEN YOU ARE FREE BUT IF IT IS GOD'S WORD MAY THE PLAGUES OF THE EGYPTIANS FOLLOW YOU, YOUR CASE HAS BEEN SUMMONED!

You shouldn't have cursed at him like that. At first when I saw the thread topic I thought it was all these Islamic Apologetics unfortunately its Mr Seun CEO of Nairaland and company's.

Have decided not to argue or talk much about religion or my faith as a Christian and what the Bible teaches, cos at the end you can only take a horse to the river but you can't force it to drink water from the river. A person can choose to interpret the Bible the way he or she feels suit him or her. A made up mind on an issue is a made up mind.
What just baffles me in all these!!! Is the kind of thoughts that runs through the mind of Mr Seun? The heart they say is an ocran of thoughts that can never me explored.
Mr Seun a word of advice. Change your thoughts.
Goodluck with you...

lovemko:
Hello friends from the first batch, any news on invitation to class yet?

Sup bro its mumels. My phone was stolen. Please send a mail to my moniker at yahoo . please send your number so we can communicate back.

moneymins:
It so unfortunate that children have taken all over nairaland, All childish individual putting their number on my thread should remove it cos i dont ask for your number, I will henceforth blocked off whosoever put his or her number on this thread, i dont need whosoever number here. I didnt mention i have a group am adding children to,cos its only children you see on any social network ignorantly dropping their numbers even when they are not requested to.... Any childish individual that stupidly drop numbers on this thread will be permanently block on my whatsapp and will be utterly disgrace here.... Just carry your childishness to your various homes and stop displaying it here. AS IMPLICATIONS OF DROPPING YOUR NUMBERS ON PUBLIC FORUM LIKE THIS IS VERY MUCH AS YOU ARE DIRECTLY EXPOSING YOURSELF TO BE SCAM REAL BIG BY FUSTRATED OPPORTUNITY SEEKERS WHO HAVE NOTHING IN THEIR BRAIN THAN TO SCAM. Thank you all... Goodmorning to the Mature ones....

Mr man you got serious issue. You don't have manner of approach at all. I never drop my number for your group but I do see the way you reply to people. Its very bad.
Mr perfect punter.... Nigerians sha....

[size=14pt]THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING. THE ISLAMIZATION OF NIGERIA IS REAL AND THE ATTACK IS BEEN CARRIED OUT ON ALL FRONTS.

1. POLITICALLY
2. BRAINWASHING OF CHRISTIAN YOUTHS
3. SECTIONAL ATTACKS

I JUST PRAY IT WON'T BE TO LATE FOR WE CHRISTIANS, SOUTHERNERS AND SOUTH WESTERN CHRISTIANS TO WAKE UP AND STAND OUR GROUND BEFORE WE GET ANNIHILATED.

JUST SO YOU KNOW, THIS IS A GRAND PLAN BY SOME EVIL MEN WHO RULE THE WORLD, IF YOU TYPE ON GOOGLE YOU WILL DISCOVER VIRTUALLY ALL OF BARACK OBAMA'S TOP TEAM ARE MUSLIMS AND THEY HOLD STRATEGIC POSITION IN THE USA, RANGING FROM SPECIAL ADVISERS TO CIA CHIEF OF STAFFS. WHAT THEY THE MUSLIMS WON'T TOLERATE THEY DO TO OTHERS.

I CALL ON ALL YOU CHRISTIAN YOUTHS, WHETHER YORUBAS, IGBOS, OR ANY TRIBE, ITS TIME WE WAKE UP AND BRING THIS MENACE TO A HALT BEFORE ITS TOO LATE, LETS FORGET ABOUT THE ELDERS, MOST OF THEM DON'T HAVE MORE THAN 20-30 YEARS MORE TO SPEND ON EARTH. WE ARE THE FUTURE AND ITS LEFT TO US TO DETERMINE WHAT WORLD WE WANT OUR CHILDREN TO LIVE IN.

SLAVES OR EQUALITY

THE CHOICE IS OURS..... [/size]

The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule. Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are called 'hypocrites' and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter.


Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not." Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense, since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time. From the Hadith, we know that this verse was narrated at a time that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding merchant caravans for loot.

Quran, Surah 4, verse 56: “Those who have disbelieved our signs, we shall roast them in fire, whenever their skins are cooked to a turn we shall substitute new skins for them that they may feel the punishment: Verily Allah is sublime and wise.”

Quran, Surah 47, verse 4: “Therefore, when ye meet the unbelievers, smite at their necks, and when ye have caused a bloodbath bind and bond firmly on them.”

Looking at the context of some of the Surahs above, you can adequately tell why the violence recorded in most of the core Islamic regions is very high. Its just like going to school and the book the lecturer gives you to read and teach constantly tells you CHEATING IN AN EXAM is not wrong, what would you expect from any student who offers such course. They will always cheat. So is Islam and violence. They Qur'an categorically made it obligatory for Muslims to kill anyone who does not believe in the teachings of Mohammed.

WHETHER MUSLIMS OR ANYBODY ACCEPT THIS AS A FACT OR NOT. [size=16pt]JESUS IS THE ONLY WAY AND THERE IS NOTHING ANYONE CAN DO ABOUT IT.[/size]

shabakm:
the biggest terrorist that happened in this world was done by Christians hitlar , judge bush, tony blair they kill more than any other terrorist in the world.

Lol the apologetics are here. Call a spade a spade and stop beating around the bush.
Every human has free will and hidden. Motive behind any
Action, the names you mentioned might be christian in pronunciation but each had his own reason for his actions, Now tell me where in the New testament did Jesus ordered his followers to kill anyone who does not accept the gospel, NOWHERE!!! Rather Mohammed specifically instructed his followers to kill anyone who strays away from Islam or anyone who does not believe in the teachings of Islam.

Stop seeking pity party and just go to the source of the violence attributed to Muslims, after the whole world can't all be sets of losers to keep pointing an accusing finger against Muslims...
Brother think am well oooo

Islam is violent TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT but fact remains fact.

Morovee most Islamic scholars always seek apologetic pity party just to cover their errors. What as People killing in the name of Allah got to do with christian not been a terrorist and committing far more crimes.

By the " The sultan just shot himself in the leg while pointing accusing fingers" Atleast, He accepts that Muslims are terrorist.

kobosmalls:
Exodus 24:9-11New International Version (NIV)

9 Moses and Aaron, Nadab and Abihu, and the seventy elders of Israel went up 10 and saw the God of Israel. Under his feet was something like a pavement made of lapis lazuli, as bright blue as the sky. 11 But God did not raise his hand against these leaders of the Israelites; they saw God, and they ate and drank.

Compare.....
◄ 1 Timothy 6:16 ►
New International Version
who alone is immortal and who lives in unapproachable light, whom no one has seen or can see. To him be honor and might forever. Amen

God being all invisible and a spirit, which one do we consider right here?
Please consider and discuss the issue that this meme raises.

My friend its quite unfortunate you are also amongst those who think they can mock the word of God.

No matter the explanation you get, you can't see what's right in front of you as long as you keep viewing the word of God from your mortal perspective.

2 Timothy 3:16-17 All Scripture is inspired by God and is useful to teach us what is true and to make us realize what is wrong in our lives. It corrects us when we are wrong and teaches us to do what is right. God uses it to prepare and equip his people to do every good work.


By the way let me chip this in for you, and let it sink well into your mind and thoughts, THE NUMBER ONE ENEMY OF MAN IS THE DEVIL, AND THE BIBLE MADE US KNOW THE DEVIL HIS WISE AND CRAFTY IN HIS OWN WAY, RIGHT THERE YOU THOUHT YOU ARE A GENIOUS BY THINKING THE BIBLE IS CONTRADICTING ITSELF Right!!! JUST AS WISE AS THE DEVIL HIS AND HIS DOOM AS BEEN PROPHESIED SO WILL ALL THOSE WHO THINK THEY ARE WISE IN THEIR OWN STRENGHT BE DOOMED.

MY ADVICE IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND A THING ABOUT GOD AND NOT EVEN BIBLE OR KORAN NOW,ASK FOR ENLIGHTENMENT AND NEVEE MOCK GOD...

Good luck

omonla555:
He is doing it for his fatherland, so Eto, Drogba and others have done same even C. Ronaldo for Portugal.

It is no news.



What is the fuse about what I wrote here? I don't owe anyone apology for this comment. Nigeria made Mikel and he is giving back to the country. Other stars have done same to their fatherland. Some people just hate Nigeria for a futile agitation for a country that may never be. We have no other country than Nigeria and I want to let you guys know that, there is no amount of hatred or curse you place upon Nigeria that you will not be a partaker. What have I said to warrant some guys saying rubbish or bad belly?
Mikel has not done enough and will still do more.

http://www.flexygist.com/2016/08/12/footballer-asisat-oshoala-donates-football-kits-to-former-grassroots-team-and-schools-in-lagos/

Its not what you wrote, but the fact that you have not shown an ounce of appreciation.
Mikel can choose not to pay the bill, its not Nigeria's money but Mikel Obi's . Yes Nigeria might be a step stone to his progress but He also worked for it with sweat and blood,so next time learn to appreciate others who part away with their property either in cash or in kind.....

By the way, Mikel Obi is not NFF. Direct you thoughts towards the ones we call leaders in this God Forsaken Country...

Vikings007:
***some text missing.... So I made a withdrawal on saturday, placed another withdrawal on sunday. Only to get paid for just one withdrawal?? With the last withdrawal rejected.

Shot them a mail today. below is their response. They obviously dont have issues when You fund everyday, but when U withdraw they can cancel it when it doesnt favor them.

#BS.

My brother i made withdrawal since Saturday till now no alert.
What step should I take next.

Make sense

Gos bless you CAN president. Am so happy with the way he spoke out and and cowardly avoid the truth.

Am not a fanatics but I MUST SAY ISLAM IS VIOLENT, why would you try to change the belief of another religion.

Stelvin101:
These two set of people giving Nigerians so much headache and pains should just meet in one big open field and fight like ancient battle where "you shoot me and I shoot you then we fight with swords" While Nigeria Army sit down and wait for the winner.

BEST QUOTE OF THE DAY

NOW I KNOW WHY WE ARE SO BACKWARD AND UNCIVILIZED.

IT'S SIMPLE WE ARE HYPOCRITES . PLEASE WHAT IS THE CORRELATION BETWEEN THE FIRST LADYS DRESS AND HER BEEN IN AMERICA.

DESPITE HOW RELIGIUOS WE ARE WE STILL HAVE BAD PEOPLE, OUR SO CALLED LEADERS STILL PAD BUDGET, WE STILLNHAVE KIDNAPPERS, WE STILL HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE RITUALISTIC IN NATURE.

I DON'T MAYBE I SHOULD SAY IT'S QUITE UNFORTUNATE TO BE A NIGERIAN OR I SHOULD JUST SAY ITS QUITE FORTUNATE.

BUNCH OF HYPOCRITES THATS WHO WE ARE .