does anybody know why this thread has so much traffic?

@ Ropie, are u kenyan or have u lived there, u seem to love it and know much about it gaugeing from that other thread.

cammax7:

can't they kill the monkeys for food. abi?

every culture has what it considers edible and i dont think kenyans eat bush meat. If they did the monkey problem would never have happened. by the way i grew up around monkeys and baboons and those things can be dangerous. however about those hand signals, im not sure

Does anyone know if this is the church that banned baby shower?

I guess nowadays sinners have to save themselves first before coming to church so they can look acceptable to the oh so pious men and women of God.
I remember a time the emphasis was to come just as u r and if the church is preaching Jesus, the  Holy Spirit will do his work of transforming peope from the inside out.
By the way why do trousers mean so much to Africans when the dumb things were not part of our culture at all!!! I cant understand why women wearing them has such a negative connotation more than anywhere else in the world. The same people who walked around barely covered now want to teach the world about the morality of not showing skin or form.
Wait a minute is this the same church that banned baby showers?
If so i guess its all about our own blend of christianity and african , wisdom

tectona:

ohhh, cut me some slack, i was there on a business trip early this year. its not so cool as your making it look and sound like. you only pick the nice parts and display here. give us some break.

i don't think there's any contention that poverty , slums, human suffering etc exist  there but   come on africans can we tell  the other stories other than what bbc, cnn , feed the children , world vision etc  have majored in portraying?
For all those posting pics of beautiful african places thumbs up! If i want pics of kids with flies in their noses and eyes too hungry to swat away i know where to find those not on nairaland please.

naijaway:


I was wondering poster, what does kenya manufacture and does kenya have traditional rulers? If they do, how effective are they in the society?

i may be wrong but i think its mainly agricultural economy eg tea, coffee, and flowers and tourism
as for traditional rulers i'm pretty sure there is no equivalent to west african standards eg kingdoms, titled princes, rich chiefs, fons. Quite unruly infact. None of that "yes sir", "no sir" and "ok madam" in the speech

i didnt mean ibos are similar to jews in terms of color. i meant in terms of business acumen/aggressive about obtaining material things and being tight fisted.

thanks much babe for hollering back. I was kind of wondering where people are at. im just discovering this place and doing it on my own isnt as much fun. so how are the maritimes?

Like i said elsewhere east africa is the cradle of man. but of what significance is that to daily living?

east africa and its vicinity is the cradle of man if that is what u meant.
i do think ibos and jews have similarities too.

What someone said

"I can myself see a very different and exciting world in which our children will live. An integrated Africa will wipe out current pettiness that suffocate us, like tribalism and ethnic clashes. But the federation must be negotiated fully, so that it does not turn around to rob and oppress us.

We want to see free movement of African people and goods, as we search for opportunities across the vast continent. I can already see our Ibo brethren very quickly setting up businesses in Tripoli, Angola and Malawi. I can see them dispersing quickly into the vast Congolese and Angolan forests as the new exporters of timber and miners of gold. I can see our Fulani wandering with their herds further south into Mozambique and Kwa-Zulu. We live in a world in which only those who take risk will survive.

The African federation is an idea whose time has come. Instead of being sceptical, we should rush in first, to negotiate for lucrative jobs and trade. We must not lose the beckoning opportunities in Africa.

OF COURSE, THERE ARE SOME difficult Africans who will cause trouble. I have in mind Nigerians, Egyptians and Congolese. Nigerians, in particular, are very unruly and pushy, while the Congolese and Somalis are very indisciplined, and if Africa passed a law for free movement, the Congolese and Somalis will all head for Johannesburg, Lagos or Nairobi the imagined cities of gold.

But then, as in all adventures, we must expect initial problems and setbacks. The advantages we expect to reap from an integrated Africa are immense. Africa must unite. "



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anyone within driving distance of toronto? i moved here and need orientation to this place. oh im female but gender doesnt matter. i just need friends

They are trying. i hope to go there soon and will confirm if these pics represent reality on the ground

@debosky
It is because individual states are so unsuccessful that they need to find a new path. As for the US dah! Get that united states. They did that in the 1860's and so did Canada.
we are far behind like in everything else. No that is wrong coz in religion africans are number1.

all u naysayers, please yours is a myopic view. Look at where the world is headed and broaden ur view. The future is in globalization and not in small ineffective people groups who cannot even meet the basic needs of their citizens. If we are not careful Africa will once again miss out on yet another age.
Afrocentric thinking tends to be small and unadventurous. We dont take risks which explains why we dont swim, climb mountains, unless its for survival purposes. Dreams are said to be silly and childish and yet look at those who settled the americas, australia etc. They were not dying in europe but they chose to take a risk for a better future. African intergration would be a risk for a better future. Their progeny is now reaping the benefits of those early risk takers. We need to plan not for 10 yrs but for the next 100yrs. Otherwise like everything else we will be probably worse off as most african countries seem to only decline 40 yrs post independence.
At this rate Africa will continue to be a place that is pillaged by foreigners for its rich natural resources yet the people are left poor and penniless.

j-girl:

I heard about that but for some reason I can't imagine it because East Africans are so divided with the rest of Africa. It would work best if it was a unity government between West African Countries.

Thinking about it, I think even the size of the continent + it's population is too large for just one government to rule.

i disagree because although west africans tend to see east africans as different, having lived in both places i would say black is black especially if suffering the same problems. Only difference is minor things like how u cook ur food and if u circumcise or not etc. I dont think anybody goes to war over that. Wars are usually about resources. Who has them and who wants to get at them. Other things are just add ons. If we could find a way for every african to eat 3 square meals a day, why not try to get there?

i don't know why most people are so pessimistic. The colonialists just drew lines and declared certain acreage was ghana, togo, uganda etc. Its not like people within those lines were always similar and agreeable. we need to  see the possibilities and not just list reasons of why things cannot be. There is so much to be gained and if not for us for those who come after us. We need to quit thinking for only today but look far far into the future.
The first thing they need to do though is to develop intra africa infrastrucure and ease travel within the borders. Africa is so varied  with so much to experience and yet even africans with money don't travel within africa for leisure. They would rather go to the west where they are not even appreciated. Thank god for dblock, constantin and co for posting pics  of other african countries otherwise i would have no clue what they look like and yet i know a few things about the eiffel tower, times square new york, picaddilly circus, cn tower in toronto etc. shame!

following the african union meeting in ghana, there was heated debate about forming an african government. Is this dreaming or is it a possibility?

These people who give testimonies in church, they sound so sincere. i wonder if they actually belive what they are telling u and are just delusional or its a con?
The other day a woman in church(black but not african) when i told her i was african started telling me about how some africans were after her to sacrifice her, how they changed into a hawk and flew around blah blah blah. Needless to say i cut that conversation short. I cant help but wonder though if she belives what she is talking about.

Here is a reason for some people to go to that part of the world
   http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18661116/
   
Kenya tourism rides crest of booming demand
upated: 3:50 p.m. ET May 14, 2007
NAKURU, Kenya - Lunchtime at an upmarket Kenyan safari lodge in what should be the slow off-season, and the dining room is packed with tourists from all over the world.

Chattering excitedly in many languages as they watch antelope, buffalo and a giraffe grazing just a short distance away across a stone terrace, they are driving an unprecedented boom in a key sector of east Africa's biggest economy.

mmh, i wonder if there are any naija languages being spoken there?
we should not have a myopic view of the world, that just because we love naija, no other africans are worthy. im sure if white people lived in tz or kenya u would not be making the same comments. so is this black on black prejudice?

dblock:

I don't like where this Topic is leaning towards

dblock i agree,dont likewhere this is going.

hbrednic:


tanzania + kenya = aids


what on earth is anyone looking for in those areas?

Thousands of tourists every year find a reason to go there and i dont think its aids research.

By the way u can die of aids in east africa or witchcraft in west africa . death is death.

i would but thats not my plan A

1 naira =10 TZ shilling
1 naira=0.7 K shilling

thanks for the pics. i am dating a cameroonian and have been doing some research on it. i know africa is mostly the same but this is kinda bad. Not sure if i can adapt it as my home. Is the countryside better?

@egoldman,hey u r taking it personal. i love naija thats why ive been visiting nairaland for about a year and i only registered to comment on this topic because i am familiar with east africa. im sure even in india there is the good, the bad, and the ugly eh?

@9ja4eva you also need an award for active participation in topics. dont know what to call it though, any ideas?

I hope u Hummer owners don't run into these kind of troubles.

Raila’s Hummer runs into trouble
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By Standard Reporter

Raila Odinga’s sensational Hummer got a taste of bad roads when the rocky terrain in Marakwet District overwhelmed it.The SUV suffered a puncture and was unable to muster enough power to ascend a steep section.

Vehicles in Raila’s convoy had to reverse several metres to give the Hummer enough "runway" to build a surge that propelled it across the rocky section along the Tot-Kapsowar Road.

apparently power cuts are not normal occurrences everywhere


NEWS

Power firm promises uninterrupted supply

Story by FRED MUKINDA
Publication Date: 3/26/2007
The Kenya Power and Lighting Company (KPLC) has assured customers that electricity supply would not be disrupted even as its workers go on strike today.

http://www.nationmedia.com/dailynation/nmgcontententry.asp?category_id=1&newsid=94556

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYX_Ql-3U10
click the link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ej7UptqQPqc&mode=related&search=

found the lagos pics, very nice. I nominate dblock for an award for all that effort.