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pazienza:
Yes! I agree with the OP.

Humans naturally respect and obey power.
We Ndiigbo must empower ourselves by fighting for ourselves in Nigeria and not abandoning our own needs for those of our neighbors whose loyalty we cannot guarantee.

In as much as we won't stand on their way, we must not abandon our own needs to further theirs, as they won't leave theirs to further ours.


Yes! Obuaku and Onitsha sea ports should be our primary concern and not anyother ports located anywhere else.
The reason for this is obvious and I had over the years hammered on them on this same forum.

OP. Nice thread. Keep it up. I hope you stick around more often, as Ndiigbo can do with as much hands as we can get to fend off Igbophobic attacks from bitter Igbophobic Nigerian groups on this forum.

Nnoo!

Thank you for speaking up, you are one of the few Igbo's listen too on this forum so I must confess i am really honored to have your support on this issue. Igbo's on Nairaland have failed to realize that only the Igbo's can empower themselves especially in the Nigeria state of today, we need more Igbo agenda and we need to support every Igbo project within Igboland and build our dream Igbo nation for our generations yet unborn.

We cannot achieve any of that by supporting projects sited outside Igboland at the expense of our very own infrastructural growth and well being, Igbo land is only surviving by God grace and the sheer guts of the Igbo man, if not these two factors, Igbo's would have been living their lives as savages and destitutes as intended by the Nigerian state after the brutal civil war. Igbo especially on Nairaland should chart a course of promoting peace and unity amongst Igbo's in SS/SE.

Yes I will be around to help promote the Igbo agenda on this forum and weed out the chaff and trolls that come in form of tribalist and Igbo haters, and I must confess I also noticed you on my other thread in culture section where I had to burst the lies of Igbo's not having respect.
Also in the auto mobile section I also busted another lie about Innoson not doing enough to promote his cars, so yes I will be around to keep bursting more lies. Once again thank you for speaking up.

Dalu..

Now that i have rid this thread of Trolls and tribalist Please Igbo's young and old, Men and women alike, feel free to come and contribute unmolested or harassed.

I will still be here to check defaulters or smelly tribalist and trolls. So you are safe.

ikeadewole:
We know our land

Thank you for the detailed maps, I think that is enough to keep our enemies awake for the rest of the Night. I only hope we meet them alive in the morning.

You Know HBP or Otapiapia things.

TRUSTEDPAY:
MY MAN I HAVE NEVER BEEN SO PROUD OF MY FELLOW NWAFOR...... U ARE AS DEADLY AS YOU ARE VERY INTELLIGENT..... AND U SEEM TO BE A SPECIALIST AT PUTTING THOSE DESCENDANT OF A FALLEN ANGEL OF GENESIS CHAPTER 6 IN THEIR PROPER PLACE...... THE LEVEL OF DEVASTATION YOU DISH OUT TO THEM LEAVES NOTING ELSE TO B DESIRED..... ATIMES I WONDA HOW AN UNLETTERED REPHAIM HIDING UNDA A SHRINE IN OSHOGBO MILES AWAY CAN TELL WHO IS IGBO OR NOT AND WHERE IS OURS OR NOT........THEY ALWAYS GATHER WHERE THERE JOY TO SOW DISCORD AND DISONANCE JUST LIKE VULTURE!!!! BUT THEY SHALL ALL BE DISGRACE.... I NEVER KNEW THE CURRENT CHAIRMAN OF OHANEZE NDIGBO IS FROM IKWERE AND HE HAS DONE MAVELOUSLY WELL IN BUILDING BRIGDES ACROSS ALL IGBOS MORE THAN ALL HIS PREDESESORS COMBINE WHO ARE AS USEFUL AS A USED TISSUE PAPER!!!



NWANNE I BU ODOGWU JISIE IKE

Thank you, I must say i am even more proud to have your comment as the 100 comment on this thread, i was hoping it was not one of those afonja's, I am happy it is coming from a Nwafor, and a Nwafor who appreciates my effort in riding these afonja's off our business and affairs.

These afonja's have been having a filled day at giving Igbo's a bad name on this platform and i am here to change all that, don't worry trust me i have their lethal potion on the wraps of my fingers. even though i rather have an anti tribal stance but they make it totally impossible this thread was going just fine till they came in.

Yes I must confess the New Ohanaeze chieftain is a blessing to the Igbo race, he has given the Igbo's a new face and changed the dynamic of Igbo politics, and even speaks up on sensitive Igbo issues and most importantly promotes Igbo Unity, which is what the Igbo's need the most now, with that, no enemies within.

loopman:
Guy, you can try to convince yourself from now till eternity, igboland is landlocked
Knock yourself out already

You are an afonjite who have not gone beyond Mowe. So keep your thoughts in your cone head and keep reading those Lagos, Ibadan media that gives you hard-on and orgasms

Chai nairaland don spoil me oo, see as i come dey insult my yoruba peeps.

Yoruba's na play i dey o, but you guys to should cut Igbo's some slack on their own thread nau haba, dem swear for una?

coolitempa:
E wo ti gbogbo e ti ton fun...

I see you are getting orgasm's from my yoruba, thunder fire your left yarnsh there. idi ogufe, dindinri.

loopman:
I realised late that you are just another ipob that have nothing in your head but insult
Which yeye Igbo towns are those, the fact that they are your neigbours doesn't make them Ibos

So go and sit down
Keep deceiving yourself there

what are you talking about? i dont want to believe you are crying already, afonja's the map menders, but the Ijebu's, Awori's and Egun's are yoruba's abi?. when it comes to Igbo's fellow Igbo's are Neighbours, you never see something, you done enta am for this thread today.

You guys are good at lying to yourselves to make yourselves feel better, sorry not on this thread. What happened to all the afonja SS handles, Seun have really hurt his brothers by blocking all their SS alternate handles now they are left to their own fate to die a shameful, painful and miserable death on this thread .

Oga Seun why nau... is Nairaland no more afonjaland.

loopman:
Shut up and stop spitting dirty saliva all over me
Simply show me any ibo speaking town with sea shoreline

Mr. man talk to me and stop harassing and insulting the pretty young lady, Shameless man after all she told no lies, why don't you pick on someone your own size.

I have mentioned several Igbo cities and towns with shorelines since you have been avoiding them i will drop the list here again, check this Igbo cities and towns that have shorelines, PH, Bonny, Opobo, Ubani and Obuaku less than five Nautical miles to the sea, qualifies as a sea port by UN standards.

So leave the young lady alone she has not told any lies. she's just stating afonja truths i know this can be very painful and hurtful for an afonja yoot, you have to bear it my brother .

coolitempa:
Ko baje fun e....

fun baba e ati iya e, Ko ma da fu awon generation e

coolitempa:
Alakori omo Olori kpelebe jatijati gbenu e soun....

Save those incantations for your midnight sessions at the shrine, Baba Sikiru omo Ajanuku will be more interested in knowing that you have learnt your verse of the incantation, it wouldn't do you much good reciting it here on Nairaland.

Omo ale, omo iya alabosi, awon smellos.

loopman:
Since you are out of depth, as usual with ipobs, you resort to your default setting - insults
Like I said right from onset, you can insult to your heart content, it doesn't change the fact that there is NO IGBO SPEAKING COASTLINE in anywhere in the world

Since when did the Name afonja become an insult on nairaland is it not part of yoruba history, is it not in your history books? you call Igbo's Ipob youths, they call you afonja, both names have direct connection with both tribes so whats the insult in calling you Afonja? or are you not yoruba again? well if you are not yoruba accept my apology for calling you afonja.

I am more interested in more information of PH, Opobo and Ubani not having shorelines? Abi are they now Afonja territory?

obaaderemi:
Your brothers still haven't gotten your point because of your subtle way of saying things(i've read some of ur threads/posts).what u are saying if i understand it is that igbos should focus on core igbo arears when thinking of progress instead of including the larger niger delta and its people(some of who stabbed the igbos in the back during the war and can not be trusted in the grand scheme of things).i have a feeling that's what u mean but u are being subtle about so that u don't annoy some people.The truth really is,seaport or no seaport matters little in my humble opinion.google the list of landlocked countries in europe,u will notice that many of them are doing well.examples are switzerland and i think,czech rep.Unity, focus,ingenuity and plans are what matters.And 50% of igbo wealth and brains can't be outside igboland while u expect igboland to develop.take it or leave it.

Yes, i must confess that's the point i am trying to drive but Igbo's here on Nairaland are always extending that hand of friendship deeper into the creeks and mangrove swamps of the south south, instead of simply concentrating on just the Igbo's in the SS. The Igbo's of the SS/SE and geography of both region have whatever it takes to make a great nation. Simply Put Igbo's should focus on Igboland in SS/SE and stop forming unnecessary friendship and brotherhood with SS minorities, Igbo's have to look inward and beyond the SS minorities.

loopman:
Lolzz, if you don't like it too bad, not igboland is by the coast!
Pain me ke? When I have coastline stretching from Ondo state to Lagos state?
You are delusional bro

Oh so it's true you are an Afonja, I even thought I was discussing with some one from akwa cross, so if you are an afonjite why do you want to draw the map of Igboland for we Igbos.

Better give yourself brain and find one shrine and keep yourself busy with those incarnations.

coolitempa:
You are absolutely disgusting....what a dirty lowlife...typical of a frustrated iPod miscreant....

hmm I am disgusting abi Mumu when you carry tribalism enter here what were you expecting? oya tell me nau oponu.

Just coordinate yourself make I no go change am for you.

DocHMD:
You should have said Igbos not bringing in political regions like SE or SS. Igboland transcends the SE even the most rabid of anti-Igbos know that for a fact.

Please read and understand the post, I only mentioned SE because the 2 ports under review in this thread are in the SE. When you go through my subsequent post you will understand. My use of Igbo land on this thread covers both SS/SE Igbo's as that is the Igbo geographical space even though some part go north.

coolitempa:
Typo error...meant king Jaja became their leader but does not make opobo a ibo town....now get lost before I descend on you with venom...

I don't care what you meant you just don't have the brain power to engage in an intelligent discuss. Your presence reeks of tribalism as you can see from you appearance on this thread.

Oya carry your tonto come front, to fu$$k you just dey hungry me, Mumu now go and die.

coolitempa:
The problem is that some or these security agencies have to employ ibos too because of the constitution....the ibos in those organisations will not carry out their jobs properly because the criminals are their people...

I think that explains why the southwest have remained the ritual capital of the world.

coolitempa:
Opono and Ubani are not ibo towns...yes became the leader but that does not make it ibo....

what of Oduduwa that fell from mango tree to become leader of yoruba land.

See what this athlete thinks about your brain power

loopman:
Keep deceiving yourself, no one will stop you

Sorry what you write on Nairaland can't change the truth, there is a new Igbo awakening and no matter the level of hate it can't stop it, the hate will only consume the hater.

Heya e pain am wella

coolitempa:
It is very dangerous to build a port in the SĒ as we all know that the port will soon become a base for smuggling hard drugs among other crimes that the ibos are known for worldwide....

Young woman why don't you allow NDLEA and Immigration do their jobs or you don't have confidence in them to do their jobs properly.

How this thing take pain you like this...

loopman:
Igbo land is completely surrounded on all four points by lands. Igbo land is landlocked
EQD

Are these Igbo Islands also landlocked, Opobo and Ubani. You always fail to remember that Igbo's do have a port already in one of their Cities of Ph and other Igbo cities in the SE also have water bodies that empty into the Atlantic which opens Igboland to the world, So young man Igbo land can never be landlocked, get your facts right.

Fremancipation:
The south east is a made up political entity in Nigeria as a post uncivil war punishment to the bulk of Ndigbo. That move has finally run its course and has expired. Now no true Igbo man or woman is letting Nigeria divide ndigbo again. The leader of Ohaneze is a proud ikwerre man that is pushing for igbo interest even better than those from the so called south-east that came before him.

Exactly well said.

Igbo's please let's not derail this thread we know Igbo's have more than enough access to the sea, but those who do not wish Igbo's well have come to derail this thread so that we do not get the message of this thread and derail it. There have even turned it to a question of do Igbo's have access to the sea or not so that this thread is derailed and so that readers do get the message.

The point of this thread is and still remains that Igbo's should support their own and promote their own. We should support the Onitsha river port and the Obuaku Sea port not any other port outside Igboland, don't we like better thing in our domain must we always go to other people's domains to enjoy infrastructure that we can readily have at our backyard in our own lands.

Igbo's let us promote Igbo land both in SS/SE we should always make it clear when we refer to SS that we are referring to Igbo outside the SE so that we do make people feel important unnecessarily. Igbo land of SS/SE is blessed beyond measures and have the economic, human, natural and geographical endowment to be the power hub and most industrial region in the country.

So why do we prefer to go to other region and get insulted and ridiculed by the natives, please Igbo's let's be wise Zik made the same mistake we are making today and Igbo's are even yet to recover from the very mistake that Zik made for being more Patriotic than his colleagues. Today Igbo's want to be more patriotic in Nigeria. In Nigeria patriotism does not sale regionalism, ethnicism, individual interest is what sales Igbo's should learn to push their own first and promote their own in all sectors and endeavors, that is why I am proud of the Ikpeazu Aba made drive, it is giving Aba made product a new face.

Arch1:
You are the one that is trying to be clever by half. According to you, the South East is not landlocked because the Niger River empties into the Atlantic Ocean outside the South East but within the Nigerian border; can we also say Kogi State is not landlocked since it is in Nigeria and the River Niger passes through the State?

You also need to read my earlier comment properly. I didnt mention ''igboland''. My reference was on the South East. The South East is landlocked. QED. Try as much as you like, in the next hundred years, you will still be talking about building an utopia seaport in the South East

Igbo land has shorelines in PH, Opobo, Bonny, Ubani, and SE Igbo land has Obuaku, that is less than 5 nautical miles to the sea which qualifies it as a seaport so try again. Igboland is overly bless with enormous access to the sea. We already have a river Port In Onitsha that empties into the Atlantic, only delay to the boom of this port is the politicking of the Nigerian Government to hold Igboland down to economic strangulation.

There is nothing like south east, it only exist in the context of the political entity called Nigeria, what you refer to as SE is Igboland in both SS/SE because no Igbo man will say i am SE or SS igbo. Political appointments of Igbo's outside SE are Igbo appointment where you see SS/SE the Igbo's see Igboland. SS/SE Igbo only applies on paper for government use or reference in the Nigerian geographical and political space.

You still failed to make any statement concerning the Obuaku sea port, That should clear your ignorance about Igbo's in the SE being landlocked.

loopman:
A River port is NOT a sea port - Fact.
The river coming into Onitsha is not exclusively in control of Igbos, it can be dammed before getting there.

Show me the Obuaku SEA port on the map - it is still a river that only passes through non igbo speaking area before it empties into the sea.

SHOW ME ONE IGBO SPEAKING TOWN THAT OPENS TO A BEACH.

Try as hard as you want, Ibo land is simply landlocked.

Off course a river port is not a sea port many countries of the world including the United States utilize river ports, river ports are no less ports than sea port the serve the same purpose and can handle same vessels, so being a river port or not holds no water.

What do you mean they can be dammed before getting to the port of destination, well that is a security challenge, which you should leave in the hands of our more than able gallant naval officials, I hope you have been seeing how they have been dealing with militants, sea pirate and vandals, so leave them to do their jobs of securing the water ways.

Tysontim have already help me with pictures and links to satisfy your ignorance, I hope you read it with a open heart devoid of hate, jealousy, anger and bitterness so that you can properly grasp the content there in, again why are you concerned about where the vessels pass through and the ethnic composition of the water ways, is it not one Nigeria again? Or are you a sea pirate? Do you have plans to give these ports a bad image leave those concerned to do their jobs

Well I don't want to derail this thread but I hope you know, Ph, Bonny and Opobo are Igbo towns and settlements.

Stop hurting Igbo land is not land locked.

Arch1:
Dude, the South East is landlocked. QED.

The Niger River's source is in the Guinea Highlands and it discharges into the Gulf of Guinea in the Niger Delta. Because the River Niger passes through Niger Republic and Mali, doesn't stop both countries from being landlocked; because the Niger River passes through South East Nigeria doesn't stop the region from being landlocked also.

Mr stop being smart by half, is the Niger delta now the Atlantic? If the River Niger gets to the Niger delta does it stop there? Mr simply put the river Niger empties into the Atlantic and is the source of many other rivers and water bodies in the Niger delta.
As for Niger Republic and Mali being land locked ask your self this questions does the River Niger empty within their national borders or they have to go through other country before they empty into the Atlantic, if you answer that question correctly you will know why they are land locked.
So as long as Igbo land is within Nigeria border territory South east is not land locked as the river flows through Nigeria borders before it empties into the Atlantic. However if your purpose for all this wails is to prove Biafra is land locked why don't you wait till they get the country and then you determine if they will indeed be land locked.
....While you are at it don't forget port harcourt is Igbo land too, so trying to prove Igbo land, SE or Biafra is land locked is dead on arrival. Hey and why din't you say anything about the Obuaku sea port abi that one too empties in the Niger delta.

loopman:
There is not Igbo city that opens to the sea. The Igbo nation is landlocked.
You are free to insult me to your heart satisfaction, it does not obliterate the fact I stated.

Why should i insult you? I only have to draw your attention to facts that you are ignorant of... If you say the south east is land locked now answer these questions it will help you discover the truth about SE being land locked or not.
Does Onitsha not have a river port sitting on the river banks of the river Niger?
Where does the river Niger empty into?
Have multinationals and other companies not used the niger river to get heavy equipments from the Atlantic to the Onitsha port?
If the Obuaku seaport does not empty into the Atlantic why was the sea port propose there by several previous administrations?
I hope you typed your post out of sincere ignorance and not out of hate that you have for igbo's in SS/SE.

PFRB:
Onitsha River port does not connect to the sea. After Onitsha, the river Niger divides into so many branches as it goes down the sea. The nun river, the brass river and Orashi river are all branches. These branches have had so many brides constructed along them and where there are no bridges, the rives are shallow so cannot allow big vessels to navigate them.
Obuaku has no connect to the sea. The nearest is Imo river which has been bridged along it. The Azumini blue river is a bit far but needs to be widened and dredged to accommodate ocean going vessels.
All these are huge projects that will take a long time to realise. The environmental impacts may supersed the economic advantages and so the govt of the day may not approve such projects.

Did you type this to make yourself feel better? Well you can keep promoting your lies. Igbo's are wiser and know better. Igbo's push and support the Onitsha river port and Obuaku sea port, i hope this post i quoted help igbo's see how far some elements are willing to go in other not to see a sea or river port materialize in Igbo land and south east.

Blue3k:
Making noise about what? All I said is nobody holding u down there's options and support. The op made long post making it feel like somebody out to get SE.

Mr it is clear you did not get the purpose of this thread, I will explain it to you in simple terms. All I am saying is that Igbo's should support their own and push for their own first as that is how the system works in Nigeria. In other word Onitsha River port and Obuaku Sea port should come on stream before any Igbo man supports or use any other port. Igbo's should start learning how to put themselves first in Nigeria as we have it today. Until Igbo's get this right we will keep crying fowl and facing the federal infrastructural deficits that we are used too. I know you are from Akwa cross thats why I am taking my time to explain it to you.

It is both sad and unfortunate that few Nairaland Igbo's celebrate infrastructural development in SS as if it was in Igboland yet they are mocked by the same people that they rejoice with because Igboland lack basic federal infrastructure and presence.

raker300:
oga cool it!
Don't think we all didn't notice the passive aggressive way you used to put down anambra state.

statements like "getting your reps to dredge a river" like as if only se reps can move a motion in the senate.

The op was stating how no one except the igbos is making moves to get the ports in se ready and you're here spooning over who wants to get the igbos and whatnot

Post a list of the "private business men" building the ports at Ibom make we see.

Raker300 Dont mind that guy, I thought I was the only one who noticed how he tried to mock the Anambra state govt and reps, as if their voice alone can get the port operational. I can bet you he is one of those people that wants the Igbo's to remain Economic servitude in Nigeria, but with God on our side we will keep breaking bounds both home and abroad.

ESDKING:
O.P, pls stop this division.There is no difference between between SS and SE . The names SS and SE were given for a political purpose which you know yourself. People should know that Igbo settlements didn't end in five SE States,Its beyond that and even some parts of kogi and Benue have Igbo indigenes.

There is nothing divisive about my thread or post i am simply calling on all Igbo's in SS/SE to focus on those things that make us stronger and do away with those that divide us, being Igbo is was Unites Igbo's in SE/SS and the geopolitical expression like you rightly mentioned is that which divides us. Igbos should focus more on being Igbo's and less of South east or south south, thank God our elders (Ohaneze) have realize this and are forming a common ground to achieve that unity across both regions, now nairaland Igbo's who still dwell in the delusion that SS is SE or Vise versa is simply deceiving him or herself focus on Igbo Unity not SS unity if Igbos are United on a common ground there is no mountain we cant surmount.

kingzizzy:
There is no such thing as SE or SS. Igbo land is not SE

You should have read the post before dropping your comment, Better still refer to my response to Ikeg.