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Religion / Re: How Qur'an Logically Prove Itself To Be Word Of God by NairaLTQ: 5:19am On Sep 25, 2023
Hello Mallam Abdulgaffar22

If you had been going through my posts, I you wouldn't make these silly claims


Unfortunately for you Sir, I the Qur'an actually have am the signature of a 7th Century Arabian man

1. Mohammed was indeed litererate!

Evidence:
1. Historical Possibility
Mohammed was more or less the hired manager of Khadija's business AND he was found trustworthy with her trades and money. This task is suitable for one who can keep record of transactions and relay them out whenever needed.
2. What some Islamic Scholars says about Mohammed's illiteracy
The Prophet Muhammad (SAWA) was never illiterate but was from Umm Al-Qura which is one of the names of Makkah, that is why he was called as Ummi.
https://www.al-islam.org/ask/was-it-the-case-that-our-prophet-muhammad-pbuh-was-illiterate-what-is-the-difference-between-illiterate-and-unlettered

Definition of “Ummi”
However, according to Edward Lanes Lexicon, the classical Arabic term ‘Ummi’ refers to a gentile or someone who is not familiar with the Law of Prophet Moses. It is not necessarily someone who is illiterate.

https://medium.com/uncorrupted-islam/prophet-muhammad-196e312f82e5

Finally,
Evidence from the hadiths showed that even though Mohammed had secretaries who helped him in writing, he himself could read and write.


2. Errors that should not get made by God is made in the Qur'an

1. Allah allowing Prostitution in the Qur'an
2. Allah saying that a woman's reproductive fluid come from between her rib and back bone
3. Alkah saying that the sun set in some murky waters
4. Allah including in his Qur'an ficticious Jewish Children bedtime story of Solomon who could talk with Ants and Animals
5. Alkah saying that king Solomon died for almost a year a no one knew

3. The Qur'an was also to serve the Cause of Mohammed

1. Allah justifying Mohammed marrying the wife of his adopted son Zaid.
2. Mohammed not limited to four wives but practically every Muslim woman

4. The Morality of Mohammed shows that he cannot be a Representative of God
a. Marrying a prepubescent girl at the age of six and consummating the marriage at the age of 9.
b. Keeping with married captured women without waiting for waiting period to be over
c. Kissing the Black stone

5. The Satanic Verses
1. If satan can dictate the Qur'an to Mohammed and he never knew, I how are we sure that the rest of what he wrote is not from satan.
2. Is it untrue that Mohammed was reported to be under the influence of satan for almost one year and was imagining things not true?

6. Stories told were acknowledged by Arabians as tales of old (nothing from God)




If you dispute any of these, I will present you more Evidences?

signed TenQ
Religion / Re: Jesus: The Way, The Truth And The Life by NairaLTQ: 11:59pm On Sep 24, 2023
AbuTwins:


Did Jesus save himself from death?
Same Jesus that ate, fasted and shit like us!
What a lame argument!

What is death?
Annihilation!?

Isn't death a transition from the physical to the spiritual space?

Your ignorance baffles me!
Religion / Re: Jesus: The Way, The Truth And The Life by NairaLTQ: 11:56pm On Sep 24, 2023
Explore2xmore:
Clap for yourself. However these speak of men appearing like in costume from a Steven King thriller. Seraphim refer to fiery ones, in allusion. This word, in the original, is used elsewhere only of the "fiery serpents" (Numbers 21:6 Numbers 21:8 ; Deuteronomy 8:15 ) sent by God as his instruments to inflict on the people the righteous penalty of sin.

In any case the effect of weakening or loss of strength. Cherubims too are primarily of human form with wings. Are these significantly different from the masquerade costumes hoping it is not a case of the Biblical God deceiving the prophets or Israel or both.
Beings with wings are human!?

I see!

Even in defeat, you keep on struggling the gaggle of death!
Khai!
Religion / Re: Jesus: The Way, The Truth And The Life by NairaLTQ: 7:07pm On Sep 24, 2023
MightySparrow:


Mods for what? He is just inviting people to the kingdom of God. You too are invited. The mods cannot save you, Jesus will.
Excellente!



This is TenQ : my main Monica received a needless ban!
Religion / Re: Jesus: The Way, The Truth And The Life by NairaLTQ: 4:52pm On Sep 24, 2023
Explore2xmore:

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These verses don't say anything about how the angels look. Can you not back up your statement appropriately?
Unfortunately for you, you do not even know that there are different classes of Angels.

Trust me, I when you see them, they you will be scared.

Here is Gabriel before Daniel
Dan 10:5-21:
"Then I lifted up my eyes, and looked, and behold a certain man clothed in linen, whose loins were girded with fine gold of Uphaz: His body also was like the beryl, and his face as the appearance of lightning, and his eyes as lamps of fire, and his arms and his feet like in color to polished brass, and the voice of his words like the voice of a multitude. And I Daniel alone saw the vision: for the men that were with me saw not the vision; but a great quaking fell on them, so that they fled to hide themselves. Therefore I was left alone, and saw this great vision, and there remained no strength in me: for my comeliness was turned in me into corruption, and I retained no strength. Yet heard I the voice of his words: and when I heard the voice of his words, then was I in a deep sleep on my face, and my face toward the ground. And, behold, an hand touched me, which set me on my knees and on the palms of my hands. And he said to me, O Daniel, a man greatly beloved, understand the words that I speak to you, and stand upright: for to you am I now sent. And when he had spoken this word to me, I stood trembling. Then said he to me, Fear not, Daniel: for from the first day that you did set your heart to understand, and to chasten yourself before your God, your words were heard, and I am come for your words. But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but, see, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia. Now I am come to make you understand what shall befall your people in the latter days: for yet the vision is for many days. And when he had spoken such words to me, I set my face toward the ground, and I became dumb. And, behold, one like the similitude of the sons of men touched my lips: then I opened my mouth, and spoke, and said to him that stood before me, O my lord, by the vision my sorrows are turned on me, and I have retained no strength. For how can the servant of this my lord talk with this my lord? for as for me, straightway there remained no strength in me, neither is there breath left in me. Then there came again and touched me one like the appearance of a man, and he strengthened me, And said, O man greatly beloved, fear not: peace be to you, be strong, yes, be strong. And when he had spoken to me, I was strengthened, and said, Let my lord speak; for you have strengthened me. Then said he, Know you why I come to you? and now will I return to fight with the prince of Persia: and when I am gone forth, see, the prince of Grecia shall come. But I will show you that which is noted in the scripture of truth: and there is none that holds with me in these things, but Michael your prince."

Here are the Cherubims before Ezekiel

Ezek 10:1-11:
"Then I looked, and, behold, in the firmament that was above the head of the cherubim there appeared over them as it were a sapphire stone, as the appearance of the likeness of a throne. And he spoke to the man clothed with linen, and said, Go in between the wheels, even under the cherub, and fill your hand with coals of fire from between the cherubim, and scatter them over the city. And he went in in my sight. Now the cherubim stood on the right side of the house, when the man went in; and the cloud filled the inner court. Then the glory of the LORD went up from the cherub, and stood over the threshold of the house; and the house was filled with the cloud, and the court was full of the brightness of the LORD's glory. And the sound of the cherubims' wings was heard even to the outer court, as the voice of the Almighty God when he speaks. And it came to pass, that when he had commanded the man clothed with linen, saying, Take fire from between the wheels, from between the cherubim; then he went in, and stood beside the wheels. And one cherub stretched forth his hand from between the cherubim to the fire that was between the cherubim, and took thereof, and put it into the hands of him that was clothed with linen: who took it, and went out. And there appeared in the cherubim the form of a man's hand under their wings. And when I looked, behold the four wheels by the cherubim, one wheel by one cherub, and another wheel by another cherub: and the appearance of the wheels was as the color of a beryl stone. And as for their appearances, they four had one likeness, as if a wheel had been in the middle of a wheel. When they went, they went on their four sides; they turned not as they went, but to the place where the head looked they followed it; they turned not as they went."



Here is the Seraphim before Isaiah
Isa 6:1-7:
"In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the LORD sitting on a throne, high and lifted up, and his train filled the temple. Above it stood the seraphim: each one had six wings; with two he covered his face, and with two he covered his feet, and with two he did fly. And one cried to another, and said, Holy, holy, holy, is the LORD of hosts: the whole earth is full of his glory. And the posts of the door moved at the voice of him that cried, and the house was filled with smoke. Then said I, Woe is me! for I am undone; because I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the middle of a people of unclean lips: for my eyes have seen the King, the LORD of hosts. Then flew one of the seraphim to me, having a live coal in his hand, which he had taken with the tongs from off the altar: And he laid it on my mouth, and said, See, this has touched your lips; and your iniquity is taken away, and your sin purged."



You know nothing sir!
Religion / Re: Jesus: The Way, The Truth And The Life by NairaLTQ: 4:30pm On Sep 24, 2023
@Explore2xmore
The remaining part.

Sorry for the inconvenience. I I will let you know when my ban is over.

I think the problem is the web links

Religion / Re: Jesus: The Way, The Truth And The Life by NairaLTQ: 4:28pm On Sep 24, 2023
Explore2xmore:
Your wrongly and falsely claiming an attribute of Allah that's not his will never make it so

When they appear as Angels, the site is scary so that they always have to say "Don't be afraid"! or "Fear Not!" Kindly direct to such verses

Taoheed refers to the oneness of Allah and there are numerous verses that state this directly. Not implied or derived

Remind me of this explanation with exact reference to the verses.

Does Allah planning against deceivers make him a deceiver? Do you use your argument to water down your allegation?

Your muddling up verses of the Quran puts a similitude between you and satan are you the same?

You can easily see that not only Christians had a Trinitarian belief/doctrine and Allah says to all not to say or have such belief. Do you think the Quran was sent to just Christians? It was sent to all mankind and jinn.

This is TenQ
Unfortunately, I received a ban while responding to this post.

I have the screen shots here even though it is inconvenient

Religion / Re: SHOCKING! Another Jehovah Witness Elder Sentenced To Jail For Child Sexual Abuse by NairaLTQ: 5:42am On Sep 03, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


Guy there has never been a time God's people were perfect but when it comes to God's will at all times His people are ORGANIZED to do it even though some among them does horrible things.

So instead of setting standards that there has never been a time in history where God's people met why not ask for the will of God that imperfect humans are fulfilling today? smiley
But according to you, all others are mere church goers apart from you.
Aren't you being hypocritical?

Mt 7:2-5:
"For the way you judge others is how you will be judged — the measure with which you measure out will be used to measure to you. Why do you see the splinter in your brother’s eye but not notice the log in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the splinter out of your eye,’ when you have the log in your own eye? You hypocrite! First, take the log out of your own eye; then you will see clearly, so that you can remove the splinter from your brother’s eye!"

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Religion / Re: SHOCKING! Another Jehovah Witness Elder Sentenced To Jail For Child Sexual Abuse by NairaLTQ: 8:17pm On Sep 02, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


What do you understand by the word PERFECT and is there anytime God's worshipers were perfect people? smiley
The opposite of Anything unfit for God's use like like some people in a group having illicit sex even with minors!?

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Religion / Re: SHOCKING! Another Jehovah Witness Elder Sentenced To Jail For Child Sexual Abuse by NairaLTQ: 7:50pm On Sep 02, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


Please expatiate on what you mean by FILTHY VESSEL

Jesus Christ told us that Satan's agents will be mixed with his group but during the last days they will be flushed out.

So i will like you to know how to IDENTIFY Jesus' group because there is a special FRUIT they're expected to produce as a group even though Judas is found among them. Matthew 7:16-18 smiley
Whatever is not perfect is not fit for God: this is filth!

Special fruti like some of them having illicit sex even with minors!?

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Religion / Re: SHOCKING! Another Jehovah Witness Elder Sentenced To Jail For Child Sexual Abuse by NairaLTQ: 6:46pm On Sep 02, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


Of course there are cases like that but does Judas Iscariot's case makes all the disciples evil?

Or are we saying such case doesn't occur in any other groups?

You need to know the motive of this OP.

He doesn't believe in Jesus and he's always been disturbing me about Jesus being fake:



This is what the OP believes about Jesus of Nazareth:

https://www.nairaland.com/7006256/jesus-real-myth-challenge-maxindhouse


If I get you correctly, Judas's exist in every organisation of God.
Unfortunately, you seem also to disagree with this by claiming that every other organisation where Christ is named apart from JW organisations are mere church goers with no fruit to show.

Your posts also show that you feel that:

The only group practicing Christianity with appropriate fruit to show for it according to you is JW!

A filthy vessel is filthy irrespective of the quantity of filth they carry/ do you disagree with this?
Religion / Re: SHOCKING! Another Jehovah Witness Elder Sentenced To Jail For Child Sexual Abuse by NairaLTQ: 5:36pm On Sep 02, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


Of course most of these are fabricated!

Have you ever wondered why is it that such is not common here among African JWs?

Well over there some children don't want the religion so to get government approval and stay away from their parents who are worriedly trying to inculcate God's laws in their hearts as commanded by God {Deuteronomy 6:6-7} they will lie against their own parents or guardian who is a JW with that they know there's a provision for abused children to live far away from their parents but here in Africa the child knows that the only people that can cater for them adequately are their own parents so they will pretend as if they're OK with the religion of their parents until they become independent.

That's why such is not heard in Africa or other countries where parents are allowed to use cane on their children!

All sins are common : in Africa, such is under reported.
They seem to have more than one report about this man o.

According to Jim Leydon, representative of the Hampden DA’s Office, the sexual abuse happened over a number of months.

“The abuse of the child appears to have occurred over a series of several months from late 2020 through early 2021, the child would have been 13 years old at the time,” Leydon noted.

We’re told Smith previously served 10 years in prison in Georgia for rape in the late 1980′s. He was classified by the State of Massachusetts’ Sex Offender Registry Board as a Level 3 Sex Offender at the time of these offenses.


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Religion / Re: SHOCKING! Another Jehovah Witness Elder Sentenced To Jail For Child Sexual Abuse by NairaLTQ: 5:10pm On Sep 02, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


Make sure of all things; hold fast to what is fine. 1Thessalonians 5:21

How many JWs have you caught within your neighbourhood with this act?

If you ask a Jew today about Jesus of Nazareth you will surely hear a lot of horrible things like:

©He never existed as a powerful prophet.

©He was gay always around males and never got married.

©He was sleeping with Mary Magdalene, she got pregnant for him and later had a son.

©He practiced spiritism and magic to deceive gullible people.

©His mother was promiscuous but lied to his father so he's a bastard.

©He was a cannibal and he taught his disciples to practice cannibalism.

©His disciples stole his body and lied that he has resurrected.

©He lied that he will demolish the temple and rebuild it in three days.

But with all these reports his disciples proved to be the most peaceful, best preachers and teachers among the Jews in the first century.

Many of them were arrested, persecuted and even executed like their leader who was executed like a common criminal.

In the year 2017 the Russians government led by Vladimir Putin labelled Jehovah's Witnesses a EXTREMIST GROUP but at the same time the same man awarded the family of Jehovah's Witnesses as the model Russian family worth emulating by all Russians.

So if anyone is always coming up to spread bad news about a certain group try to find out the motive in order not to end up spreading what can lead you to kick against God! Exodus 23:1-2

God bless you and may you have PEACE! smiley
So, all the allegations are fabrications!?
I actually thought so!
Religion / Re: The Trinity Explained At Last... by NairaLTQ: 4:30pm On Sep 02, 2023
AntiChristian:


grin

Bow down? Na that one be your problem?
Many people worshiped like that in your Bible! Even Jesus bowed down to ground to his father who happens to be himself...lol
But it is better to have just only one God than having one God father who can send his son messages but the son is also himself!

grin
Lame argument as if Christians don't also bow down in worship to our God.
Fortunately, there is a wide difference between how slave and children rever their God!

Unfortunately, it is worse when a people bow towards a certain cube containing the ancient black stone worshipped by pre-Islamic Idolaters

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Religion / Re: Why is Allah In Such A Deep Disguise? by NairaLTQ: 4:18pm On Sep 02, 2023
gaskiyamagana:
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Read about his misrepresentation or misinterpretation, or atimes his robotized Anti Islam reasoning ; nod laughingly and chiefly (not deeply in order not to waste your time) reply. I knew him very well with sponsorship misleading mission of bad presentation of Allah, Islam, Al-Qur'an, Muhammad (saw) and muslims with his Robotically programmed reasoning, thinking and arguing about the 5 at one point or the other in his past posts, and surely on his future posts. I used to handled him the way I advised you.
My brother,
Your friend knows that I contrast the standard preferred Islamic Narratives to what your Quran, Hadith, Tafsir and Sira says and many Muslims don't like me for showing these truths.

Note that, It is impossible that both Islam and Christianity be the way to salvation.

The Question is : when you encounter the truth, are you willing to adopt it or hate the bearer of the truth?


You Muslims rarely ask Questions about issues of your religion while you don't mind attacking others and treating them as infidels.

My purpose is that:
Just as I asked Questions and became free from the misleading information about Islam, I ask you to ask questions BOTH about Islam and Christ. Don't just assume that what you have is the truth

I sincerely invite you to know the Messiah: He is for your Salvation !
Religion / Re: Why is Allah In Such A Deep Disguise? by NairaLTQ: 4:08pm On Sep 02, 2023
gaskiyamagana:

You forgot to add that you are anti-islam roboticalized reasoning, thinking and arguing person.
Is it because I didn't fall to the deception and deceit of Mohammed's God?

Is it because I am not enticed by your paradise?

Is it because I do not pray facing the black stone and the kaaba?

Till tomorrow, I will continue to LOVE Muslims! and do my best to be an agent of your salvation
Religion / Re: Why is Allah In Such A Deep Disguise? by NairaLTQ: 4:04pm On Sep 02, 2023
gaskiyamagana:


It is narrative of Allah, Who created you and with what He gave you of reasoning that you are using negatively against Him, sent message of Q3:7 on whatever form of your misrepresentation, misinterpretation and misleading assumption. Those who are worse than you in disbelieving existed during the time of prophets Muhammad (saw) and the verse (Q3:7) and the likes of it were revealed to him. In other words, you are not the first, not the best and can never be the last in obstinate disbelief of Allah, lslam and Muhammad (saw).
I make bold to say that your Allah never created me. Yahweh the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob did create me.

Unfortunately, Yahweh isn't Allah!

So what do you expect?

Can you confidently answer this question :
Is Allah Yahweh?

How come the most Holy name of the Prophets of Old is unknown in Islam?

Allah is indeed the Best of Al-Makr!


You've evaded these questions severally :

Why is your God the Arrogant?
Why is your God The Believer?
Why is your God the Distressor?

Arrogant to Who?
Who is he believing in?
Why is his nature to distress?
Religion / Re: Why is Allah In Such A Deep Disguise? by NairaLTQ: 3:05pm On Sep 02, 2023
Bakrabas:



Can I know your faith so that I'll know if you deserve to get my response?
Are you responding to this
NairaLTQ:

They hope for the intercession of a black stone that has been broken into pebbles for intercession on the day of judgement

They kiss it as they would kiss their prophet Muhammad : that this stone will remember them for good on the day of judgement.

The face the stone to pray their five daily prayers (but they would accuse the Catholics of Idolatory)

The stone had been part of Idolatory even before the birth of Mohammed. Anything that would bring people to the Religion of Mohammed is welcome.

The stone has the power to erase their sins: is this not Idolatory!?

I am a Christian who years ago almost recited the shahada in my 200L. My main monika is TenQ but I received a ban yesterday night. This is temporary
Religion / Re: SHOCKING! Another Jehovah Witness Elder Sentenced To Jail For Child Sexual Abuse by NairaLTQ: 2:49pm On Sep 02, 2023
The only group practicing Christianity with appropriate fruit to show for it according to MaxInDHouse and his assistant Janosky.

A fellow elder with Maximus!
SMH!

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Travel / Re: Japa: I Am Confused, Please Advise. by NairaLTQ: 2:33pm On Sep 02, 2023
Kriss216:

You try o.

You're one of the few strongest men in Nigeria.
A good man usually finds a woman like himself.
I can sponsor wife to any country in the world as she is a good wife indeed.

If your foundation is good, anything you build on it will stand

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Religion / Re: Why is Allah In Such A Deep Disguise? by NairaLTQ: 2:29pm On Sep 02, 2023
SIRTee15:


Sorry, not interested. I'm more interested in opening your eyes to the truth.



That's a lie. Muslims bow down to the black stone.

Now what does the bible say about bowing down to stones?

‘Do not make idols or set up an image or a sacred stone for yourselves, and do not place a carved stone in your land to bow down before it. I am the Lord your God.
Lev 26.1

Any religion that tells u to bow down to a black stone is not from God.
A god that needs u to bow down to a black stone for whatever reason is not the God of the bible- YAHWEH.
They hope for the intercession of a black stone that has been broken into pebbles for intercession on the day of judgement

They kiss it as they would kiss their prophet Muhammad : that this stone will remember them for good on the day of judgement.

The face the stone to pray their five daily prayers (but they would accuse the Catholics of Idolatory)

The stone had been part of Idolatory even before the birth of Mohammed. Anything that would bring people to the Religion of Mohammed is welcome.

The stone has the power to erase their sins: is this not Idolatory!?
Religion / Re: Why is Allah In Such A Deep Disguise? by NairaLTQ: 10:52am On Sep 02, 2023
Ohyoudidnt:
Yeah right.

Point is this distressing spirit proceeds from the lord or us this God?

This spirit proceeds from God like the holy spirit that's also God?

Where exactly does Allah instruct to bow down and worship a black stone? This must be your fantasy.
You should ask Mohammed because several billions of Muslims daily bow down facing the black stone in the kaaba. And you all struggle to kiss or touch it that the stones may remember you on the day of judgement!

Ohyoudidnt:
Keep fooling yourself. com

Exactly the same reason you can't answer elementary questions without running into trouble.

Why is your God the Arrogant?
Why is your God theBeliever?
Why is your God the Distressor?

Arrogant to Who?
Who is he believing in?
Why is his nature to distress?

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Religion / Re: Why is Allah In Such A Deep Disguise? by NairaLTQ: 10:02am On Sep 02, 2023
Ohyoudidnt:
Oh how the castle crumbled.
The Distressing spirit proceeds from the God in the Bible- 1Samuel 16: 14-16
P.S watch the Arrivals part 36
Is the distressing spirit God?
You can't escape this

Why is your God the Arrogant?
Why is your God theBeliever?
Why is your God the Distressor?

Arrogant to Who?
Who is he believing in?
Why is his nature to distress?

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Religion / Re: Why is Allah In Such A Deep Disguise? by NairaLTQ: 9:28am On Sep 02, 2023
TenQ:
Who is this Person in such a Disguise?
Here are five Names I want us to look at today:
Why!?, because if such a person exist, he would be a very arrogant person whose aim is to mislead humanity and cause distress and harm to them through deceit and mischief which would lead to their ultimate and perpetual humiliation .

Example:
To kill a rat in the house, we mislead/deceive it to think that we are offering it free good-looking-delicious food because we care for it. Unfortunately, our objective at the end of the day that when the Rat takes our bait, it would go into a state of painful distress and sorrowful humiliating death

Seeing the similarity of the purpose of the stealing, killing and destruction, we can not help but assume that this being is Satan!


Name #1: "Al-Makir" = The Deceiver
Name #2: "Al-Fattan" = The Mischief-Maker
Name #3: "Al-Mutakabbir" = The Arrogant
Name #4: "Ad-Darr" = The Distresser/The One who Causes HARM
Name #5: "Al-Muzil" = The Misleader/The Humiliator


The Arabic Wikipedia article contains more than 10 different lists by various Islamic scholars. Some of those lists contain the name "Best of deceivers" (خير الماكرين). The lists together contain 276 names of Allah and one can comfortably assume that there are other lists with more names. So, even though 99 names are claimed, the names after collation are all together up to 276
https://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/أسماء_الله_الحسنى#اجتهادات_في_إحصاءها


Who is a Deceiver?
He is One who deliberately and habitually misleads another or others by a false appearance or statement, especially one who does so habitually
Example: A person who daily misleads people to Hell Fire by giving alternatives to the Truth of God

Who is a Mischief-Maker?
He is a person who deliberately and habitually creates trouble for others.
Example: A person who deliberately and habitually expresses hate for others by creating problems and pain for good people

Who is Arrogant?
He is one who has or reveals a continuous exaggerated sense of his own importance or abilities.
Example: Like a created being elevating himself to the statue of the Creator and Impersonating God

Who is a Distresser?
He is one who deliberately and habitually causes (someone/others) anxiety, sorrow, or pain. Sorrow is feeling of deep distress caused by loss, disappointment or misfortune suffered
Example: A person whose purpose is to habitually cause people anxiety, sorrow and pain in their lives

However, note the qualifying word "THE" before the "VERB"
It is possible that a person cause you distress without being "The Distresser" e.g. A Medical Doctor
It is possible that a person mislead you without being "The Misleader/The Deceiver"
e.g. Someone you asked for direction

The Qualifier "THE" imply that such has the nature of performing the action deliberately, innately, habitually.

There are Other names that belittle this personality so much but Muslims do not see it as derogatory for GOD.
المؤمن Al-Mu'min The Believer Quran 59:23
We believe only when we have made a conclusion based on our judgment of highest probability.
For instance, we don't believe that 2+4=6. We know that 2+4=6.
Rather, we can believe that Russia would win the War against Ukraine or vice versa based on our estimation of probabilities.

Does God work by a game of probabilities or by knowing the past, present and future?



Questions:
1. Do you think it is possible that God be Arrogant ? To whom then will God be arrogant to as one can only be arrogant either to ones peers or superior.
2. Why do you think that God is a Believer ? Do you agree that we take a position of belief only when we are not 100% certain of a conclusion but we have reasonable fact to place our bet on an outcome in the future?
3. If God is the author of Distress , why do we attribute our problems to Satan?
4. Why do you think that the objective of God is to Humiliate us if he actually commanded even the Angels to bow to man?
5. Did Muhammed know what Allah would do to him? If he doesnt as the one showing you the way, can you be sure he has not been deceived?
6. How are you sure that the Greatest of all Deceivers has no decieved you from the way of truth?



Please let's make the answers short, direct and precise
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Religion / Re: Why is Allah In Such A Deep Disguise? by NairaLTQ: 9:18am On Sep 02, 2023
Ohyoudidnt:
Oh Please! It states distressing spirit from your God i.e the distressing spirit is part of your God or how does it come from your God?

You sure must disappoint yourself with such a no punch.

Enjoy your weekend and your life.

Is this distressing spirit not Jubril? LOL!
You will never find it anywhere that God is a Distressor or Believer or Arrogant

Can God cause distress?
Yes!
Is He a Distressor?
No!



I didn't ask you to give your God the title of the Distressor!

Meaning that his pre-occupation or nature is about Distressing people or causing distress.

Does Allah kill?
Yes!
Is Allah a killer?
No!
(at least you didn't give him that name)

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Religion / Re: Why is Allah In Such A Deep Disguise? by NairaLTQ: 9:09am On Sep 02, 2023
Ohyoudidnt:
A whole 60% of what you typed was false/wrong and a sorry waste od time?

Anyway in those verse where the derivatives appear, are they in reference to God or the unbelievers?

In your desire to prove a point you loose track of your goal?

A whole sixty percent of the Qur'an is wrong? Lol.
Speaking of excuse to avoid the main crux of the matter.

You Muslims gave almost 276 Names to Allah (while each of you maintain 99 names). Some of the names belittle the Almighty Creator of the Heavens and the Earth.

The name are descriptive names of the nature of Allah.

1. المتكبر Al-Mutakabbir The Arrogant
2. المذل Al-Mudhil lead astray or cause to err.
3. المكر Al-Makr The deceitful, cheater/deceiver
4. الضار Ad-Daar The "Harmer"/The "Distresser"
5. المؤمن Al-Mu'min The Believer

Let me give you two examples you've struggled to avoid.

Who is a Deceiver?
He is One who deliberately and habitually misleads another or others by a false appearance or statement, especially one who does so habitually
Example: A person who daily misleads people to Hell Fire by giving alternatives to the Truth of God


Who is the Arrogant?
He is one who has or reveals a continuous exaggerated sense of his own importance or abilities.
Example: Like a created being elevating himself to the statue of the Creator and Impersonating God

Who is a Harmer/Distresser?
He is one who deliberately and habitually causes (someone/others) anxiety, sorrow, or pain. Sorrow is feeling of deep distress caused by loss, disappointment or misfortune suffered
Example: A person whose purpose is to habitually cause people anxiety, sorrow and pain in their lives

Who is a Believer :
A person who even though doesn't have all the facts to know takes a position or conclusion after
Example: Christians, Muslims and Atheists are believers in aspects of life in eternity


المؤمن Al-Mu'min The Believer Quran 59:23
We believe only when we have made a conclusion based on our judgment of highest probability.
For instance, we don't believe that 2+4=6. We know that 2+4=6.
Rather, we can believe that Russia would win the War against Ukraine or vice versa based on our estimation of probabilities.
Does God work by a game of probabilities or by knowing the past, present and future?

Does it dawn on you that God as a Believer negates his power over Destiny


1. Do you think it is possible that God be Arrogant ? To whom then will God be arrogant to as one can only be arrogant either to ones peers or superior.

2. Why do you think that God is a Believer ? Do you agree that we take a position of belief only when we are not 100% certain of a conclusion but we have reasonable fact to place our bet on an outcome in the future?

3. If God is the author of Distress , why do we attribute our problems to Satan?


These are the issues: you are the ones who gave Allah these name
Religion / Re: Why is Allah In Such A Deep Disguise? by NairaLTQ: 8:21am On Sep 02, 2023
Ohyoudidnt:
See for yourself, in the example Q6:17 you give there are both بِضُرٍّ and بِخَيۡرٍ

"And if Allah should touch you with adversity, there is no remover of it except Him. And if He touches you with good - then He is over all things competent."

Why do you focus on the former as the name of Allah and ignore the latter? Is it hard for you to comprehend that Allah encompasses everything? You are quick to agree the Devil is bad and evil yet fail to acknowledge the supremacy of Allah that Devil can do norhing outside whay Allah allows.

If you agree that adversity results in distress then explain from your own book how this spirit of distress proceeds from your God?

1 Samuel 16:
14 But the Spirit of the Lord departed from Saul, and a distressing spirit from the Lord troubled him.
15 And Saul’s servants said to him, Surely, a distressing spirit from God is troubling you.
16 Let our master now command your servants, who are before you, to seek out a man who is a skillful player on the harp. And it shall be that he will play it with his hand when the distressing spirit from God is upon you, and you shall be well.”

Can you infer from this that God is a DISTRESSOR?

I gave a very simple analogy to express this:

A medical doctor can cause his patient great distress in the cause of his treatment : however, it doesn't make the Doctor a DISTRESSOR!


Any one who says God cannot cause distress for people is a LIAR and doesn't know the power of God.
However, the issue is that God by His nature is NOT a DISTRESSOR

Can God kill?
YES!
Is God a Killer?
NO!


This is the difference you refused to see!

God is NOT a DISTRESSOR!
God is NOT a BELIEVER
God is NOT ARROGANT!

These are not nature's of God!

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Religion / Re: Why is Allah In Such A Deep Disguise? by NairaLTQ: 1:56am On Sep 02, 2023
Musa95:




Mashallah brother you did justice to it. I was getting ready to answer but you said my mind. Alhamdullillah. If he can't comprehend your reply, leave him alone and may Allah guide him to the truth.
He failed woefully.


The name are descriptive names of the nature of Allah.

1. المتكبر Al-Mutakabbir The Arrogant

2. المذل Al-Mudhil lead astray or cause to err.

3. المكر Al-Makr The deceitful, cheater/deceiver

4. الضار Ad-Daar The "Harmer"/The "Distresser"

5. المؤمن Al-Mu'min The Believer


Check the dictionary meaning of Arrogance, Believe and Decieved and you will note that

God cannot be ARROGANT

God cannot be a BELIEVER

God cannot be a DECEIVER


Don't forget that
1. It is possible that a person cause you distress without being "The Distresser" e.g. A Medical Doctor
2. It is possible for a person to be drunk without being a drunkard


However, when an activity becomes a NAME, it shows that this is the NATURE of the person in Question.
Religion / Re: Why is Allah In Such A Deep Disguise? by NairaLTQ: 1:51am On Sep 02, 2023
gaskiyamagana:

Insufficient as answer is Q3:7 description of your type as far as misunderstanding and misinterpretattion of Allah, lsam, Muhammad (saw) and the muslims are concerned ?
Do You want me to go with your preferred Narrative rather than what the simple texts says?

1. المتكبر Al-Mutakabbir The Arrogant

2. المذل Al-Mudhil lead astray or cause to err.

3. المكر Al-Makr The deceitful, cheater/deceiver

4. الضار Ad-Daar The "Harmer"/The "Distresser"

5. المؤمن Al-Mu'min The Believer


These are the names you give Allah aren't they?
Religion / Re: Why is Allah In Such A Deep Disguise? by NairaLTQ: 1:45am On Sep 02, 2023
Bakrabas:



The number you quoted is the same thing as saying that goes thus in the bible " I am that I am" "emi ni ti n je emi" it's only God that can boast of this that's why it's called" the boaster"


The number two... "The humiliating one" who humiliated pharaoh as powerful as he claimed? Only the Quran talked about the remains of pharaoh Quran says "...his body was preserved so that he can be a lesson for you"

Allaah is the one that humiliating those who think they're tyrants or powerful
In addition to your write up...

3. Whatever worldly materials you might have aquire it's a trial for you. The arrogant once think the joy of this life is forever, that's why God usually deceive them with worldly materials and yet they are still constituting mischief on the land.

His name is also The Lord of mankind i.e the one who created all human being.

Therefore, the God that created death will be called what?

Allaah has many names but just the 99 out of it our eeman can comprehend. You see the rest, their meanings are beyond human thinking faculty. We might end up saying rubbish while trying to associate any meaning to it as you typed up there.

#Shalom #As-salaam
The questions were

Do you think my translation of the Arabic is wrong?
1. المتكبر Al-Mutakabbir The Arrogant

2. المذل Al-Mudhil lead astray or cause to err.

3. المكر Al-Makr The deceitful, cheater/deceiver

4. الضار Ad-Daar The "Harmer"/The "Distresser"

5. المؤمن Al-Mu'min The Believer

Check the dictionary meaning of Arrogance, Believe and Decieved and you will note that

God cannot be ARROGANT

God cannot be a BELIEVER

God cannot be a DECEIVER
Religion / Re: Why is Allah In Such A Deep Disguise? by NairaLTQ: 1:36am On Sep 02, 2023
Ohyoudidnt:
I really have come to understand that you are one who likes to waste time. Allah does not like the wasters.

Show me Mutakabir in Quran 2:268 please

ٱلشَّيۡطَٰنُ يَعِدُكُمُ ٱلۡفَقۡرَ وَيَأۡمُرُكُم بِٱلۡفَحۡشَآءِ ۖ وَٱللَّهُ يَعِدُكُم مَّغۡفِرَةً مِّنۡهُ وَفَضۡلًا ۗ وَٱللَّهُ وَٰسِعٌ عَلِيمٞ
"Satan threatens you with poverty and orders you to immorality, while Allah promises you forgiveness from Him and bounty. And Allah is all-Encompassing and Knowing."

Pardon my error please

Quran 39.60
Qur'an 40:27
Quran 40:35
Qur'an 59:23
Corrected!
Religion / Re: Why is Allah In Such A Deep Disguise? by NairaLTQ: 1:00am On Sep 02, 2023
Ohyoudidnt:
Another disputed name is Ad-Darr.
From the root dad-ra-ra (ض ر ر), which opinion interpretes as opposing, to apply forceful correction, to do an act that is disliked making inconvenient, annoy, distress, to cause adversity, afflict, to harm, injure, and hurt.

Society often dislikes law enforcement as sometimes it isn't convenient to obey the law. Imagine having about to deliver mother in a car going to the hospital perharps for some reason the delivery is complicated and you are stuck in traffic. The opposing lane is free but by law you cannot use it. Maybe an ambulance authorised by the law to break this law can.. The non conforming nature of many would rather have them oppose the norm unless they are compelled to.

The names Al-Nafi and Ad-Darr (The one who benefits and The one who harms) are often explained in pairs to acknowledge their opposing nature. To explain each name in isolation is to break the harmony and provide an inaccurate or less comprehensive depiction of who Allah is. Note the non name form in which this appears in the Quran.

The name of Allah Al-Adl" (العدل) takes care of justice or punishing wrong doing by Allah. This is different from Ad-Darr the bone of contention.

The term "Ad-Darr" (الضَّرّ) can be translated as "The Afflictor" or "the Harm" or "The Bringer of Adversity."


In ordinary day-to-day Arabic usage, the word "Darr" (ضرّ) refers to harm, damage, or adversity. It is a common term used to describe anything that causes negative effects, discomfort, or trouble. Darr in Arabic usage is ALWAYS used in negative connotation. So, in everyday Arabic conversation, "Darr" is used to refer to harm, damage, or any negative consequences.

Therefore, it is correct that Allah is one who causes Harm to people by his nature.

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