Ohyoudidnt: There is no ayah which explicitly mentions the name Al-Mudhill in the Qur'an, but many describe this attribute of Allah. Probably why the mischievous slanderer that started this post kept from writing out the verses to support his claims.
It's best this is left here to see how he can justify picking this name.
However we know Allah is all able bringing honour to some from his attribute Al-Muizz and disgrace to others.
Logically in any interaction some have more success compared to others and neither is without leave of the almighty.
I agree with you that there is no verse that expressly mention Allah as Al-Mudhil in the Qur'an. The verse attached was from an Islamic site unfortunately, I can't locate it again.
The term "Al-Mudhil" (المضل) is one of the names or attributes of Allah in Islamic theology. It is derived from the Arabic root word "Dhal" (ضل), which means to lead astray or cause to err. "Al-Mudhil" can be translated as "The One who leads astray" or "The One who causes to err."
The term "Mudhil" (مضل) primarily relates to leading astray or causing error, and it doesn't directly imply humiliation. It's more about causing someone to deviate from the right path or making them go astray in their beliefs or actions.
Example: Like Allah created Christianity by replacing Jesus with someone else who look perfectly like Jesus and didn't tell the Disciples of Jesus not His mother not the Apostles that Jesus wasn't the one being crucified
However, the concept of humiliation can be indirectly connected in the sense that if someone is led astray or follows a misguided path, they may eventually face humiliation or negative consequences as a result of their actions or choices.
So the correct translation of the Al-Mudhil is the Misleader or the one who leads astray
Sorry, this is TenQ: I just got a ban responding to this. Let's see if my reply will go through otherwise till tomorrow.
Ohyoudidnt: Allah calls Himself Al-Mutakabbir— The Supremely Great, The Perfection of Greatness— on one occasion in the Quran. He is the One who is supremely great. Al-Mutakabbir reveals His Greatness and power at every moment and in every incident!
The Supreme, The Possessor of All Rights, The Perfect Greatness
To test your claim, Here are 10 Arabic sentences (attached) for which you should replace the word Mutakabbir with either supremely great or perfection of greatness or even great or excellent ***** ***** See the attached 10 Arabic sentences to which he you should substitute your re-definition of Mutakabbir so that we see if the sentence makes sense *****
The Truth is apparent to you here: you are redefining words to suit your purpose different from normal usage
Mutakabbir comes from the root kaaf-baa-raa, which has three main meanings. The first main meaning is to be great in size, rank, or dignity, and the second to to be great in age and in learning. The third main meaning to have rights, privileges, and attributes that others don’t have.
This root appears 161 times in the Quran in 18 derived forms. Examples of these forms are kabura (“hard”), yastakbiroona (“arrogant”), akbaru (“(is)greater”), and al-kibari (“the old age”).
[b]Linguistically, kibriya means greatness and sovereignty, [/b]and it encompasses the meanings of the perfection of one’s self and existence; nobody can be described as such except Allah. Allahu Akbar– Allah is the Greatest— comes from the same root, as well as the name of Allah, Al-Kabeer. Al-Mutakabbir is the One who possesses all greatness, who is above having any of the qualities of His creatures, who cannot be harmed by the oppressors among His creation, and whose greatness and pride are the utmost.
Al-Mutakabbir Himself says: He is Allah , other than whom there is no deity, the Sovereign, the Pure, the Perfection, the Bestower of Faith, the Overseer, the Exalted in Might, the Compeller, the Superior. Exalted is Allah above whatever they associate with Him. [Quran, 59:23]
Allah ‘azza wa jall describes people as mutakabbireen (arrogant) on multiple occasions in the Quran. They have arrogance in their hearts and actions towards Allah by disbelieving in His signs and they are arrogant to other people by looking down on them due to position, race, wealth, etc.
I see why you want to complicate that which is extremely simple.
1. Is it true that the exact word "Mutakabbir" (متكبّر) appears six times in the Quran?
2. Is it true that in ALL of them Mutakabbir" (متكبّر) is translated as Arrogant
3. If this is true, then can I put it to you that Al-Mutakabbir can only mean The Arrogant
4. Is it true that In everyday non Religious Arabic usage, "Mutakabbir" (متكبر) is an adjective that describes someone who is arrogant, haughty, or filled with pride. It is not a positive term and is often used to criticize someone's behavior when they display excessive pride or a sense of superiority over others. So, if in a normal, non-religious context, "Mutakabbir" refers to a person who exhibits arrogance or an inflated sense of self-importance it means that you Muslims are redefining words to mean different from what it normally is.
Summary : I see that you want to invent a new meaning of either supremely great or perfection of greatness or even great or excellent for the normal use of the word "Mutakabbir" (متكبّر) , this is a fallacy and deceptive use of words sir.
What you can not accept is that there is sufficient information and knowledge out there that shows that all the gods that have ever been have all been created by us humans. And you also can not imagine that some may have bothered to ask and knock and seek with all their hearts and souls and minds so that they actually know instead of believe.
I do not believe that gods do not exist. I know that gods do not exist and never have. I love the Book die though. I'm glad it does exist.
Whatever is truly know must have convincing proof: isn't it?
Except there is no being living in 2D space…….. I’ve seen this argument before. The next step is to say that your god/spirit lives in 4D space. Then someone else says the Leprechaun lives in 6D space etc
Sorry!
All I am saying is that you have no way of knowing. Think about it: If there is any Creator at all, he would not be made up of matter. If the Creator is not made up of matter, how on earth can you claim you know?
The work of helping people to see truth that could deliver their souls from eternal condemnation is the real work. It has eternal rewards rather than killing people for allah which leads only to hell.
Many Muslims are just seeing this now.
But why all the lies and Misinformation with Islam:why!?
Any hadith they don't like is a toast. They even do it to their Qur'an : they will even throw their prophet under the bus so that Islam can look impeccable.
Anything built on Falsehood cannot stand with inquisition!
honesttalk21: .... 2. What was the main mode of transmitting or learning the Quran in the life of Prophet Muhammad? Remember that he himself could neither read nor write.
Has the hadiths proved to you that Mohammed could read now?
What you can not accept is that there is sufficient information and knowledge out there that shows that all the gods that have ever been have all been created by us humans. And you also can not imagine that some may have bothered to ask and knock and seek with all their hearts and souls and minds so that they actually know instead of believe.
I do not believe that gods do not exist. I know that gods do not exist and never have. I love the Book die though. I'm glad it does exist.
You know!? Just as you know that 4+6=10! ?
A 2D Being living in a 2D space swears that he KNOWS that VOLUME of objects doesn’t exist.
I’ll assume you don’t because you are a christian. Would it be accurate if I call you an atheist?
I don't believe in Brahma but I believe that the Spirit called Brahma exist. Do I believe in transgenderism? No! But I believe it exist even in Nigeria.
Atheistsm is a negative belief of rejecting through knowledge the concept, possibility or reality of Deities. This is why a baby CANNOT be an Atheist: he doesn't even understand the concept of God to either accept or reject it.
Lacking belief in something means you don't believe the thing exists. There could be many reasons for this. In the case of a god, my lack of belief comes from lack of evidence.
Not lack of evidence for a cause, but lack of evidence for what is commonly described as a god. To me, a cause is not necessarily the same as a god. I believe I've explained this before.
No sir. Lacking a Belief is actually holding no positive or negative opinion about a subject usually because of total lack of knowledge or awareness about the subject.
Do you believe I ate Pounded Yam this afternoon? This is a question you can't hold any kind of Belief in for or against. Therefore, you lack a belief to whether I ate or did not eat Pounded yam. You have zero information to take any position.
For the concept of God, you atheists have taken a position based on insufficient convincing evidence to reject the idea or possibility of God existing. You don't lack a belief, you have a negative belief: period
Why does Islam thrive in lies and misinformation. Why does Islam present Mohammed as an Illiterate when in actual fact your Islamic scholars know that he isn't?
Can you see why non of you can come out to disprove the allegation?
I don't and I will never read jargons, products of your upsidedown reason which is borne out of passionate and pure hatred for your creator Allah, His noble Universal prophet and His chosen religion for mankind, ISLAM. Let your noise continues here and somewhere else till after second coming of Jesus and see your DOOM as contained in Quran 5:116-118.
Do you know why I am not one bit surprised!?
Because a Muslim is one who says to himself: Don't confuse me with the Truth because I have made up my Mind
So, all your noise making is the gra gra of a dying Donkey!
I still pray for you that you will find out the truth in Christ before it is too late. God love you too much for what you are doing to yourself! Stop the self delusion!
1. He believes he is a Muslim 2. He accords his highest respect to Allah 3. He from his studies have concluded that Muslims have written too many UNTRUE things about the Qur'an as a. The VERBATIM words of Allah b. The Age of the Qur'an c. The claim of Inspiration/dictation by Jubril d. He doesn't have a Problem with Mohammed writing the Qur'an e. He still believes Mohammed is a Messanger of Allah f. He is still a Muslim
What is the relationship between the website and: 1 Vain for lie , the key word in JEREMIAH 8:8? 2. Coverage of Jesus Mission; Lost sheep of the house of Israel or all Nations or the world or whole creation as verses in the Bible are confusing and contradicting? You are, out of total confusion, jumping from one topic to another in religion that you are neither a student nor teacher but an online nuisance with fake and doctored quotes from Christianized sources. Remember that l have said, and which unfortunately, you find no rebuttal from your sources, the wastefulness of dead, living and unborn Christians' faith and rejection of their worship by Jesus before Almighty Allah, Qur'an 5:116-118.
A proof that you don't read at all. This is the third time I am referring you to MY write-up and rebuttal on this. For the last time
It is good that you recognise the porn nature of the Quran and the failure of knowledge in logic, mathematics, history and sciences.
Everything to evade the main Point of Discussion: Allah severed Mohammeds Aorta for fabricating the Quran.
Your Questions are still Pending o!
Question: 1. Since we know that everything is destiny in Islam, Did Allah destined Zaynab to Poison Mohammed? 2. What chapters and verses of the Quran was fabricated by Mohammed that Allah had to execute judgement of severing his aorta and making sure he cannot be helped? 3. If Jesus was delivered from death, why do you think that the greatest Messenger was not delivered from this excruciatingly painful slow death? Was Allah torturing Mohammed for his sin?
I somehow agree with you but not fully. Not everyone has the patience of going through several pages of arguments. Those ones would have learnt a lot in just one page.
I particularly learnt how these Muslim dawah gang falsify their Qur'an to say exactly what they feel is not embarrassing.
Only God know how many Muslims truly believe in these lies.
Maybe you have a point. Just look at how they all have run inside their shell!
Hello Mr TenQ, I think you have scared these people undergoing by giving them too much information that is difficult for them to defend. Next time give them small pill to swallow at a time. They're pretending that they cannot see these posts now.
Unfortunately, they will still clutch tightly to Islam even though it is glaring that it is a cult servicing the interest of just one man Mohammed!
shadeyinka: I have crossed my legs, waiting! What will these people say in defence of their amazing prophet now?
I just checked up the references from the internet. This is amazing. I wonder what AntiChristian and Lukuluku69 say about this. Is it that Muslims don't know this?
1. The weakness of Islam is that they are not allowed to ask questions specifically that (according to Allah):they wouldn't loose their faith.
2. The inconsistence of their hadiths is another thing one can write a whole encyclopedia on. One hadith say Allah has no left hand and another is saying Allah has both left and right hand. Both hadiths are Sahih: which then do we take
Why I do this? I hope Muslims through reason will become free from the lies of Islam which has kept them in bondage and embrace Jesus the Messiah who will give them eternal life
Good luck to you o. I don't have that kind of patience!
Even when they hear the truth it doesn't move them one bit. They hope they can defend themselves with the phrase "we mean well and we prayed 5 times a day thinking it was you" to God!
TenQ: I'm so sorry that the questions for today even though very simple are difficult for honest Muslims to answer.
Questions: 1. What does the shin of Allah look like? What is the distinguishing features? 2. What then is the real shape of Allah? (Is Allah a Transformer?) 3. Why do you think Mohammed compared Allah to the Da'jjal rather than comparing Jesus to the Da'jjal? (After all, the Da'jjal is a man as Jesus is a man) 4. On the day of Resurrection, why would Muslims be waiting for the one to intercede for them? Where was Mohammed (the Muslims Intercessor) at this time the Muslims were rejecting Allah who came in another form to them?
If you don't know how the shin of Allah should look like, how will you distinguish Allah's shin from Mohammed's shin?
You expect Muslims to be able to answer these questions after you just gave them hadiths that will make their job impossible.
Even though this is related, the post of today starts with the Quranic verse.
Qur'an 3:144 Muhammad is but a messenger, messengers (the like of whom) have passed away before him. Will it be that, when he dieth or is slain, ye will turn back on your heels? He who turneth back on his heels doth no hurt to Allah, and Allah will reward the thankful.
In Summary: 1. Mohammed is a Messangers 2. Other Messangers before Mohammed had died (in context to the next sentence) 3. Therefore, IF after the death of Mohammed his followers left Islam it doesn't do Allah any harm BUT those who remain faithful in gratitude, Allah will reward.
The issue today is NOT to argue whether Jesus is an exception or not but another interesting observation in the hadith below
Sahih al-Bukhari 7427, 7428 Narrated Abu Sa`id Al-Khudri:
The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "v[b]The people will fall unconscious[/b] on the Day of Resurrection, then suddenly I will see Moses holding one of the pillars of the Throne." Abu Huraira said: The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "I will be the first person to be resurrected and will see Moses holding the Throne."
This is also supported by Saheeh al-Jaami' as-Sagheer: No. 2570 and 2373,
Summary: On the day of Resurrection, Mohammed would be the FIRST to be Resurrected!
The Question is: Before the day of Resurrection, where are ALL those who died on earth?
Mohammed, gave us the answer:
1. The Martyred: “And say not of those who are martyred in the way of Allah, “they are dead”, nay, they are living, though you perceive it not” (Surah al-Baqarah, 154). 2. The Prophets Anas ibn Malik narrates that the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) said: “The Prophets are alive in their graves performing Salat” (Recorded by al-Bayhaqi in his Hayat al-Anbiya’ and Abu Ya’la in his Musnad).
Mohammed confirmed that he also will be in the grave Aws ibn Aws narrates the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) as saying: “Send salutations in abundance on me on Friday, as your sending salutations are presented to me.” The Companions inquired: “How is it possible that you receive our salutations when your body will have been decayed?” The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) said: “Verily Allah has made forbidden on the earth that it eats the bodies of the Prophets” (Recorded by Abu Dawud, Nasa’i, Ibn Majah, Darami and others, and authenticated by many, such as Ibn al-Qayyim).
3. For Others (non prophets nor martyr) After some time in your grave, you are then visited by two angels, known as Munkar and Nakir. They are assigned to test the faith of those dead within their graves. When they arrive, they sit you up in your grave and ask you the following: “Who is your Lord? Who is your Prophet? And what is your faith?”. The result of your examination will determine if the grave will be comfortable or harsh for the person.
Summary: All those who died on earth whether Martyr, Prophet or Anyone else are CONSCIOUS in their GRAVE
Finally: Mohammed while ALIVE was taken by Jubril to Paradise and the seven Heavens in a night Journey . Isra Miraj is one of the most notable events in the religious history of Islam. I won't want to bore you with the ELABORATE IMAGINATIVE story .
1. Mohammed was taken by Jubril on one of the animals of heaven called Buraq to “the farthest mosque” Masjid al-Aqsa, in Jerusalem. The Buraq is one of the animals of paradise and is described as “a white creature that is larger than a donkey but smaller than a mule, who would place its hoof (step) a distance equal to the range of his vision." (Sahih Al-Bukhari) 2. After this Mohammed was taken to the seven Heavens where he met (at different tares) the old prophets starting with Adam and then John the Baptist with Jesus and then Joseph, Aaron, Moses and Abraham (in the seventh heaven). 3. Then Mohammed was permitted to go above the seventh heaven . When he finally reached the highest level in the heavens, he was brought into the Divine Presence of the Almighty Allah s.w.t, alone at Sidratul Muntaha (a boundary beyond which none may pass). It is said to be the boundary that has never been passed by anyone except by Prophet Muhammad s.a.w. Here, Rasulullah s.a.w. was given the Divine Decree for the believers to establish 50 daily prayers......and later reduced to 5 after he had consulted several times with Moses
NNTR: Nothing in the narrative has a difficult part. The focus of the narrative was about the three Rs, which are: 1. Do the Right thing 2. Do the Right thing at the Right time 3. Do the Right thing, at the Right time and remain standing on God's Right Hand Side
Tamar, repeatedly was denied her right(s). On so many occasions in the narrative, doing the Right thing(s), doing the Right thing at the Right time, doing the Right thing at the Right time, at same time, remain, in right standing with God when doing all, were not concurrently done.
Er, Onan and Judah were complicit in those three areas, causing Tamar to go to extreme length to have her rights accorded her.
Judah, was a widow, so technically was not wasnt in the wrong, seeking women of easy virtue, to bust his nuts with
The moral of the story is: 1. Dont be wicked (i.e. dont be like wick, become twisted. Er had a twisted mind) 2. Avoid miscarriage of justice (i.e. Onan copied Er. Onan milked the cow and had no intention ever of buying the cow) 3. Address allegations of miscarriage of justice (i.e. Judah eventually owned up to his hypocrisy and admitted how his dereliction of duty put Tamar's life in jeopardy)
Judah is not condemned for patronising prostitution, but he sure is found wanting in not upholding, ensuring, enforcing the Levirate law.
Judah knew that the right and best thing to do was for Onan to know Tamar.
It is because Judah wasnt able to man up, and instil in Selah, his third son, to do the right thing (i.e. not follow in the footsteps of his two demised elder brothers) that he shied from as promised Tamar, let Selah know her
Numbers 23:19 'God is not a human male— He doesn't lie, nor is He a human being — He never vacillates. Once He speaks up, He's going to act, isn't He? Once He makes a promise, He'll fulfill it, won't He?'
God is not a man that he will lie. Er and Onan died.
The former, Er, died because was only after, satisfying his sexual gratification thirst only, while the latter, Onan, died because, he too was only after quenching his sexual gratification thirst only and was not keen, into giving Tamar, the benefit of having a welfare safety net from post sleeping with her
Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
I perfectly agree with you. Doing the Right thing Being not a hypocrite Is seems God judges you According to the measure of grace in knowledge of Himself He has given you.
NNTR: Absolutely right that Er and Onan must have been wicked. Yes, they both had self-centeredly twisted minds (i.e. thinking of themselves only)
Matthew 1:1-3 '1 This is the genealogy of Jesus the Messiah the son of David, the son of Abraham: 2 Abraham was the father of Isaac, Isaac the father of Jacob, Jacob the father of Judah and his brothers, 3 Judah the father of Perez and Zerah, whose mother was Tamar,'
One of the morals of the narrative, is to guard against spurious reasoning(s) like the nonsense here, that Tamar is the cause of Er and Onan's deaths, when clearly Er and Onan deaths were of their own doing (i.e. they both refused to do the right thing, which is bust their nuts inside Tamar)
Again I reiterate, had been fascinated by Judah and Tamar (i.e. the pretend prostitute). Judah, Tamar (i.e. the pretend prostitute) and two for real, prostitutes, are prominent in Jesus' genealogy. I suspect, this is likely, maybe why Mohamed (PBUH) favourably looked at the oldest profession in the world and so had the thumbs up at women of easy virtue, to bust nuts with.
When trying to wrap my head over the patriarch, Judah's entanglement with prostitution, (i.e. when trying to get the sense of it all), came to the conclusion that, Judah, being a widow, is absolved of any wrong doing.
Meaning that, being a widow, Judah engaging in sexual activity with a prostitute, pretend or not pretend prostitute, for payment was not held against him and on top of it all, Judah still had his name make it, safely intact, into the genealogy of our Lord and Saviour of the whole wide world
cc TenQ
Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
The highlighted is the difficult part of the story. The story seem to be told WITHOUT any any theological purpose. Judah was not condemned officially even though he acknowledged his hypocrisy.
The book of judges was at a time when because Israel had no Priest not King, EVERYONE did what was best in their own eyes.
Even for Er and Onan, were they truely killed by God or was it the impression of the author of Judges?
Check out:
Judg 20:6: "And I took my concubine, and cut her in pieces, and sent her throughout all the country of the inheritance of Israel: for they have committed lewdness and folly in Israel."
NNTR: With hypocrisy on one side, then zoom on to the oldest profession in the world and widowed Judah seeking women of easy virtue, to bust his nuts with
Tamar knew about days of ovulation hence the reason why she demanded for Judah's ring and staff (i.e. that was her 'health' insurance protection from the imminent backlash)
Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Both Er and Onan must have been wicked BUT See how the death of Er and Onan were blamed on Tamar.
LeoDeKing: There is a reason the governors are saying this. They know their unintelligent indigenes will rather focus on Buhari than demand accountability from them.
No governor ever complained of non disbursement of allocations to states and LG.
A governor won election by sharing 1 litre of kerosene to some households. Since then, the next project the governor embarked on was to kick start award of N500 to any woman who put to bed. After that, nothing more was ever heard.
But indigenes of the state have been insulting Buhari and Tinubu for stealing their future. That is clear display of stark illiteracy. They expect Buhari to start sinking boreholes and repairing roads in their communities.
Who has the power to devalue the Naira by their actions: the FG!
They destroyed the economy of Nigeria and opt for devaluation when in tight corners!
Religion / Re: Why is Allah In Such A Deep Disguise? by NairaLTQ: 12:44am On Sep 02, 2023