Scholace:
Some uncles are truly useless. My dad singlehandedly raised his little brother till he becomes adult. He sent him to school while my mum linked him up with a job in an oil company. This Uncle of mine doesn't not send any of us, including my mum and his brother my father. We his niece and nephew are suffering with no help in sight. Don't you think we have a right to tell him to his face that he's wicked?

The world is now different o.
Even your uncle is struggling to survive in a space where resources are scarce

honesttalk21:


This is the show I ask of. Does this equate asking for evidence? Show or discuss your claim. Keep your following questions until after this is done.

Despite Allah being described as existing above the heavens, this elevated position does not confine Allah's boundless nature.

Allah being above the heavens, refers to a position that surpasses all material and earthly constraints. This placement is not meant to indicate confinement but serves to emphasize Allah's separation from earthly matters and his elevated status.

I have ALREADY discussed my claims with you sir
1. Islamic scholars insist that Allah is NOT a Spirit and that the spirit is created by Allah. I gave you a Fatwa as an example. Even you have agreed with their submissions about Allah. Is Allah created!? You answer is NO! But is the Spirit created!? YES!

The implication is that Allah CANNOT be described as a SPIRIT.
Secondly, if Allah is NOT a spirit, he cannot be a boundless spirit.

2. Is it untrue that Mohammed described the seven heavens as physically above the earth with the subsequent one higher that the previous heaven and that Allah is ABOVE the highest heavens on his throne.

Is it untrue that Mohammed promised that you Muslims will see Allah at about the day of resurrection?

These two show that Allah is NOT boundless. Allah is finite, that is why he is above the heavens And can be seen by Muslims

honesttalk21:


A clear similitude of twisting of tongues. As you are wont to do you didn't quote in full.

Allah is not confined to a material or physical body as humans, but is a boundless spiritual entity that surpasses human comprehension

Boundless means what? Surpasses human comprehension means what?

The spirit you know is bound within your definitions and exaggeration but there is non of these in which you can limit Allah. All other spirits are limited by Allah or aren't they?

But you just admitted that the Spirit was created by Allah!
Did Allah create himself?

Is it untrue that according to your prophet that Allah is on his throne above the seven heavens?

Sunan Ibn Majah 4331
Mu’adh bin Jabal said:
“I heard the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) say: ‘Paradise has one hundred grades, each of which is as big as the distance between heaven and earth. The highest of them is Firdaws and the best of them is Firdaws. The Throne is above Firdaws and from it spring forth the rivers of Paradise. If you ask of Allah, ask Him for Firdaws.’”

How can Allah be boundless when he is ABOVE the heavens?

honesttalk21:


You see yourself. Fatwa by who? Not me but still

The spirit or soul is not one of the attributes of Allaah, rather it is one of the things that have been created by Allaah.[/color][/b] It is mentioned in conjunction with Allaah in some texts by way of honouring, for Allaah is its Creator and Sovereign, He takes it (in death) whenever He wills and He sends it whenever He wills.

THE SPIRIT OR SOUL IS NOT ONE OF THE ATTRRIBUTES OF ALLAH

IT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN CREATED BY ALLAH

I asked you questions, and you demanded for evidence : therefore, I gave you a fatwa otherwise, please give me answers to my questions.

You note that :
1. If the Spirit is NOT an attribute of Allah but a creation, do you now agree that
"Allah could not have been a boundless spiritual entity that surpasses human comprehension." ?

2. If the Spirit is created by Allah, do you concur that such can not be called "spirit of Allah" for the spirit come from within Allah?

3. Is the spirit a living thing or non living thing?

Again honesttalk21:

You said many things that were not true according to Islam.

You said that
Allah is a boundless spirit!
This is UNTRUE because Allah is not a spirit in Islam.
You said that Allah is boundless :but does he not live above the seven heavens on his throne?
Did you not mention that Allah is incomparable to anything yet Allah compares himself with Baal and your prophet compared him with Dajjal?


1. According to Islam, Is Allah a spirit?
If Allah is not a spirit, then he cannot be a boundless spiritual entity!
2. According to Islam,Is Allah above the seven heavens on his throne?
3. According to Islam, Did Allah compare himself to Baal in the Qur'an?
Then Allah is describable
4. According to Islam, Will all you Muslims see Allah on the day of resurrection with a certain shape?
Then he cannot be boundless!
5. According to Islam, Did Mohammed compare Allah with the Dajjal?
6. Can Allah enter into his creation?


Again:
I have never found any text by any of your scholars that Allah is a Spirit, perhaps you will help me out

1. Can you give me either a Qur'an or a Hadith or a Tafsir that says that Allah is a spirit?
2. When Mohammed was asked about the Spirit : why did he not say that the Spirit is Allah?
3. Why then do you call Jibril the Holy Spirit because according to the Jews and the Christians, the only Person worthy to be called the Holy Spirit is God Himself?




Islam teaches that Jibril is The Holy Spirit and this is at variance to Allah himself being the Spirit, therefore you will need to help me out with these

1. Is the divine breathe of God "the SPIRIT"!?
2. Is Jibril and Jesus the breathe of Allah?


We Christians understand who the Spirit is BUT you don't. Our God is a Spirit!

Is the Spirit a symbol or reality in Islam?

Until you understand the proper definition of Spirit, you will continue to create an Islam different from the Islam of Mohammed!


Thank you!

honesttalk21:


Manipulating my statement? Very much like you.

Show me Allah is a boundless spirit in my submission

You asking other questions is your trade mark? Show your proof then place your questions to justify not the other way round.

When you don't understand something come out straight to ask and don't hide in the dark with questions. Nobody sees you or is interested in groping in the dark with you.

Is this from you or not

honesttalk21:


Nature of Allah
Allah, is beyond human comprehension, thus making it challenging to capture the essence of Allah as a spirit with the limitations of language. The Quranic view portrays Allah as transcendent and immanent simultaneously, reflecting the infinite nature of the Divine. It posits the belief that Allah is not confined to a material or physical body as humans, but is a boundless spiritual entity that surpasses human comprehension.

Meaning :
Allah is a Spirit
Allah is Boundless as a spirit.



Here below is an extract of one of your Fatwa to answer if Allah is a spirit

"The spirit or soul is not one of the attributes of Allaah, rather it is one of the things that have been created by Allaah. It is mentioned in conjunction with Allaah in some texts by way of honouring, for Allaah is its Creator and Sovereign, He takes it (in death) whenever He wills and He sends it whenever He wills."
https://islamqa.info/en/answers/50774/he-is-debating-with-a-christian-and-is-asking-does-god-have-a-spirit


I have never read from any of your scholars that Allah is a spirit : thus, you are the only one who can give me your alternate sources that Allah is a spirit.



Do you care about the Truth?
So, will you now respond to my questions?


When you ask questions, you will become free!

honesttalk21:


Be sorry for yourself.

Show directly and don't try to confuse with questions. Get to the point and stop being verbose. ATTN: @Tenq

You said many things that were not true according to Islam.

You said that
Allah is a boundless spirit!
This is UNTRUE because Allah is not a spirit in Islam.
You said that Allah is boundless :but does he not live above the seven heavens on his throne?
Did you not mention that Allah is incomparable to anything yet Allah compares himself with Baal and your prophet compared him with Dajjal?


1. According to Islam, Is Allah a spirit?
If Allah is not a spirit, then he cannot be a boundless spiritual entity!
2. According to Islam,Is Allah above the seven heavens on his throne?
3. According to Islam, Did Allah compare himself to Baal in the Qur'an?
Then Allah is describable
4. According to Islam, Will all you Muslims see Allah on the day of resurrection with a certain shape?
Then he cannot be boundless!
5. According to Islam, Did Mohammed compare Allah with the Dajjal?
6. Can Allah enter into his creation?


Again:
I have never found any text by any of your scholars that Allah is a Spirit, perhaps you will help me out

1. Can you give me either a Qur'an or a Hadith or a Tafsir that says that Allah is a spirit?
2. When Mohammed was asked about the Spirit : why did he not say that the Spirit is Allah?
3. Why then do you call Jibril the Holy Spirit because according to the Jews and the Christians, the only Person worthy to be called the Holy Spirit is God Himself?




Islam teaches that Jibril is The Holy Spirit and this is at variance to Allah himself being the Spirit, therefore you will need to help me out with these

1. Is the divine breathe of God "the SPIRIT"!?
2. Is Jibril and Jesus the breathe of Allah?


We Christians understand who the Spirit is BUT you don't. Our God is a Spirit!

You said:
Is the Spirit a symbol or reality in Islam?

Until you understand the proper definition of Spirit, you will continue to create an Islam different from the Islam of Mohammed!


Thank you!

[quote author=Expanse2020 post=128376610][/quote]
It is easy to catch a liar!

What is the smell of honey?


Islam and Lies!

Expanse2020:

So David, jacob and lot are not prophets write ...then who are they in the bible

Tafseer ibnu kathir you coat there you should add the reference number there Abi he no get reference number again like tho others hadiths you have been posting
Quran verses with tafseer
1. O Prophet! Why do you forbid that which Allah has allowed to you, seeking to please your wives And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. 2. Allah has already ordained for you (O men) the absolution from your oaths. And Allah is your Protector and He is the All-Knower, the All-Wise. 3. And (remember) when the Prophet disclosed a matter in confidence to one of his wives, then she told it. And Allah made it known to him; he informed part thereof and left a part. Then when he told her thereof, she said: "Who told you this'' He said: "The All-Knower, the All-Aware has told me.'' 4. If you two turn in repentance to Allah, your hearts are indeed so inclined; but if you help one another against him, then verily, Allah is his Protector, and Jibril, and the righteous among the believers; and after that the angels are his helpers. 5. Maybe his Lord, if he divorces you, will give him instead of you, wives better than you - submitting, believers, obedient, turning to Allah in repentance, worshipping Allah sincerely,

Hadiths
Allah censures His Prophet for Prohibiting Himself from what He has allowed for Him In the Book
Al-Bukhari recorded that `Ubayd bin `Umayr said that he heard `A'ishah claiming that Allah's Messenger used to stay for a period in the house of Zaynab bint Jahsh (which is one the wife of the prophet)and drink honey in her house. (She said) "Hafsah and I decided that when the Prophet entered upon either of us, we would say, `I smell Maghafir on you. Have you eaten Maghafir' When he entered upon one of us, she said that to him. He replied (to her). (No, but I drank honey in the house of Zaynab bint Jahsh, and I will never drink it again.)'' Then the following was revealed,

So tell us where did you see lie bring the reference
Oloshi
May the Calamity fall on whoever lie on the hadiths with both pasted here
Amin

I showed you ONE Hadith and TWO Tafsirs and you are in your daze asking for the reference of the Tafsir.

Are you so dazed that you forget that Tafsirs are commentaries of the Qur'an 66:1-3!?

Khai!
You fall my hands!

Tell me please :
What is the smell of honey?


Islam and Lies!

Sorry, you addressed this to yourself : however, I am responding

I notice that you said many things that are anti-Islam and thus, I asked you questions to help you see the contradiction with what Islam truly teaches

honesttalk21:


Nature of Allah
Allah, is beyond human comprehension, thus making it challenging to capture the essence of Allah as a spirit with the limitations of language. The Quranic view portrays Allah as transcendent and immanent simultaneously, reflecting the infinite nature of the Divine. It posits the belief that Allah is not confined to a material or physical body as humans, but is a boundless spiritual entity that surpasses human comprehension.

You have conjured up another picture of Allah that is not according to your prophet. Allah is one indeed and I will show you that he is NOT a boundless spiritual entity

Truthfully answering the following questions will expose the Antiislam posture of this your quote above
1. According to Islam, Is Allah a spirit?
If Allah is not a spirit, then he cannot be a boundless spiritual entity!
2. According to Islam,Is Allah above the seven heavens on his throne?
3. According to Islam, Did Allah compare himself to Baal in the Qur'an?
Then Allah is describable
4. According to Islam, Will all you Muslims see Allah on the day of resurrection with a certain shape?
Then he cannot be boundless!
5. According to Islam, Did Mohammed compare Allah with the Dajjal?
6. Can Allah enter into his creation?

honesttalk21:

Consideration of Allah as a spirit is a matter beyond human comprehension. Unlike any physical embodiment, Allah is believed to transcend the boundaries of space, time, and matter, existing in a realm beyond human perception. This essence is described as Qudrah, the divine power that encompasses all things in creation and beyond.

Qudrah encompasses the belief that Allah has complete control over all things and possesses the ultimate power to create, sustain, and govern the universe.

Can you give me either a Qur'an or a Hadith or a Tafsir that says that Allah is a spirit?
2. When Mohammed was asked about the Spirit : why did he not say that the Spirit is Allah?
3. Why then do you call Jibril the Holy Spirit because according to the Jews and the Christians, the only Person worthy to be called the Holy Spirit is God Himself?

honesttalk21:

The spirit breath given to Adam symbolizes the special connection between humanity and Allah. It is through this divine breath that humans possess a spiritual dimension, enabling them to seek and comprehend the higher realms of existence. Islam posits that this connection can be deepened through sincere worship, contemplation, and adherence to moral principles.

Islam asserts that humans possess tremendous spiritual potential and the ability to reflect Allah's attributes. Remember Allah said to the angels that he was going to create a representative on earth. A vicergent. Quran 2:30.

Even the Bible has some fluid definition of God's spirit. The book of Isaiah talks about 7 spirits. The Spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the Spirit of wisdom and understanding, the Spirit of counsel and might, t I'mhe Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD.

Wisdom,Understanding,Counsel,Might,Knowledge,fear and Spirit of the Lord.

Could there be more?

1. Is the divine breathe of God "the SPIRIT"!?
2. Is Jibril and Jesus the breathe of Allah?


We Christians understand who the Spirit is BUT you don't. Our God is a Spirit!

You said:

The spirit breath given to Adam symbolizes the special connection between humanity and Allah

Is the Spirit a symbol or reality in Islam?

Until you understand the proper definition of Spirit, you will continue to create an Islam different from the Islam of Mohammed!

Ttalk:
Good for the economy.

A government that is bold enough to remove subsidies should not be afraid of any backslash that may arise from any measure to save the naira.

Let all remittances be converted to the naira equivalent so the government can have enough dollars for people doing genuine business in need of dollars.

All domiciliary accounts with idle dollars should be taxed.

How about those of us who save our money in dollars. Should we convert it to Naira with the serous mismanagement we've seen them operating on our economy?

Buhari sold our oil into the future and the money has already been spent. Who accounts for this? Is it the Government or the hardworking citizens?

Is it to my advantage if I save some of my earnings in Naira rather than dollars?

Expanse2020:

Show us where he was cut with a slave in the bed

I will oblige you and don't cry after it for every evidence will be from your religious books.

Enter my three witnesses!

[i]Sunan an-Nasa'i 3959
It was narrated from Anas, that the Messenger of Allah had a female slave with whom he had intercourse, but 'Aishah and Hafsah would not leave him alone until he said that she was forbidden for him. Then Allah, the Mighty and Sublime, revealed:
"O Prophet! Why do you forbid (for yourself) that which Allah has allowed to you.' until the end of the Verse.


Tafsir of Al-Jalalayn on Qur'an 66:1-3
"O Prophet! Why do you prohibit what God has made lawful for you, in terms of your Coptic handmaiden Māriya"— when he had sexual relation with her in the house of Hafsa, who had been away, but who upon returning [and finding out] became upset by the fact that this had taken place in her own house and on her own bed — by saying, ‘She is unlawful for me!’, seeking, by making her unlawful [for you], to please your wives? And God is Forgiving, Merciful, having forgiven you this prohibition. "Allah has already ordained for you [Muslims] the dissolution of your oaths. And Allah is your protector, and He is the Knowing, the Wise." Verily God has prescribed, He has made lawful, for you [when necessary] the absolution of your oaths, to absolve them by expiation, as mentioned in the sūrat al-Mā’ida [Q. 5:89] and the forbidding of [sexual relations with] a handmaiden counts as an oath, so did the Prophet (s) expiate? Muqātil [ibn. Sulaymān] said, ‘He set free a slave [in expiation] for his prohibition of Māriya’; whereas al-Hasan [al-Basrī] said, ‘He never expiated, because the Prophet (s) has been forgiven [all errors]’. And God is your Protector, your Helper, and He is the Knower, the Wise. "And [remember] when the Prophet confided to one of his wives a statement; and when she informed [another] of it and Allah showed it to him, he made known part of it and ignored a part. And when he informed her about it, she said, 'Who told you this?' He said, 'I was informed by the Knowing, the Acquainted.'
....
[/i]


Tafsir of ibn Kathir on Qur'an 66:1-3
The messenger of Allah, peace and prayer of Allah be upon him, was having sexual relations with a female slave which he had, but Aisha and Hafsa would not cease to bother him about it until he forbid himself to continue it, until Allah praised and glorious brought down a verse saying "O prophet, why do you forbid to yourself what Allah has allowed" until the end of the verse. Ibn Jarir said...The messenger of Allah, peace and prayer of Allah be upon him had sex with Um Ibrahim (Mariyah Al-Qibtiyah) in the house of some of his women. Then she (Hafsah?) said "Hey messenger of Allah! In my house and upon my bed?!" Then the prophet made it forbidden (for him to have sex with her). Then she said "Hey messenger of Allah, how will you forbid what is allowed to you?" Then he swore not to have sex with her. Then Allah revealed "Oh prophet why do you forbid what Allah has made allowable to you?"

Expanse2020:

But according to the bible lot slept with her two daughters ...that what they call shame
David son sleep with her father's wives that a shame
Jacob son sleep with her wife/(slave) that a same
All these fiftly act was what a scripture book called bible 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Lot is not our prophet but yours!
David's so is not a prophet
Jacob's son was not a prophet.
All these happened before the law was given


Unlike your God Allah who justify the Zina committed by Mohammed against his wife.



What an example to follow!
Mohammed is not only a pedophile but an adulterous person not worthy of being emulated

AntiChristian:


[b]Stop trying to deceive me with lies. In the Bible, the Holy spirit descended on Samson when he wanted to kill the Lion! It descended on him again when he wanted to steal clothes and garment from 30 people that did him no harm![/b]wee

You don't know that Sounding like a broken record makes you look like a donkey!

Why couldn't you answer my questions?
You are afraid thy it betrays your ignorance and deciet!

Expanse2020:

David actually do that in the bible
Na so lot sleep with her two daughters, these are filthy things for someone to put on head OOO chaiii

David was punished by God for his sin of Adultery and Murder unlike Allah that made Zina lawful for Mohammed.

Lot is your prophet isn't it?
He's neither a prophet to the Jews nor to the Christians

Almunjid:

K. Jesus did not speak Hebrew, he spoke Aramaic. What is the word for "God" in Aramaic? And how do u say "My God! My God!!" in Aramaic.

What is your evidence that Jesus did not speak Hebrew but Aramaic?
Because Jesus spoke both Hebrew and Aramaic (I can prove it if you want)
But, can you prove your claim : Or, Is this another conjecture from you?

God is a TITLE (like President or Chairman) and not a name or Identity (Like Joe Biden or Ahmed Tinubu). Is the name of your Allah God!?

So, the title God in Aramaic or Hebrew or Arabic is Eloah, Elohim, Allah, etc. It means DEITY!

What is the name of the "Allah" of the Jews?
Yahweh!
What is the name of the "Allah" of the Christians ?
Yahweh!
What is the name of the "Allah" of the Muslims?
Allah




I ask you again :
Is Allah a Spirit?

Note : Yahweh is a Spirit!

Ohyoudidnt:


You then mean
(It is a bad science sir.

Everything is made from the basic atoms which consist of protons, electrons, neutrons and other subatomic particles.

This include Hydrogen and Oxygen from whose reaction water is made. Hydrogen as the smallest element is made up of a single Proton, a neutral and an electron!) Is equivalent to:

[1. I started with Monistic postulate is a bad science because it's not even a science.

2. Monism is the philosophical view that there is only one fundamental substance, reality, or principle. It stands in contrast to dualism, which posits the existence of two fundamental substances or principles.

3. I then gave you scientific constituent of matter from the fundamental particles of protons, neutrons and electrons and admission of a few other sub atomic particles.

3. A postulate is a statement or proposition that is accepted without proof as a basis for reasoning or further investigation. They are axioms to establish the groundwork for logical reasoning.]

Is this correct?

A concrete house can be said to be made of water but not solely water.

So what has your Monistic postulate got to do with your claim that every living being is made of water?

I am sure that you know that it is more logically coherent to say that a house is built from cement or bricks or mud than saying that a house is made from water!

Do you agree with this?

Ohyoudidnt:


Not a bit surprised. At the beginning I ask you; Have you ever heard about the Monistic postulate? What is a postulate?

Do you know of nuclear fusion and fission?

1. I started with Monistic postulate is a bad science because it's not even a science.

2. Monism is the philosophical view that there is only one fundamental substance, reality, or principle. It stands in contrast to dualism, which posits the existence of two fundamental substances or principles.

3. I then gave you scientific constituent of matter from the fundamental particles of protons, neutrons and electrons and admission of a few other sub atomic particles.

3. A postulate is a statement or proposition that is accepted without proof as a basis for reasoning or further investigation. They are axioms to establish the groundwork for logical reasoning.

5. I know about nuclear fission and fussion and I still wonder how it has anything to do with water being from which living things are created.

I asked you a question

Is it true and proper to say that:
All concrete houses are made from water?

RepoMan007:
No dollar no dollar yet we have so much dollar seating idle and hoping it sells for N5000.
Now the exchange rate has been collapsed properly, those speculators will start scheming to have the naira weaken on both windows so they can sell with profit. I blame the FG who kept pumping cheap dollar into banks and trusting them to sell it cheap.

We don't have dollars because
1. The previous government have sold our oil into the future and spent the collected dollar proceeds from it. Right now we are just exporting to fulfill our obligations without getting returns
2. Nigeria is a consumer nation and we import virtually all that we use from paper to pencils to erazers to clothes to chemicals etc. We cannot generate as much dollar as we need for these importations
3. Converting ALL dollars into Naira forcefully will solve our problem for probably 3 weeks. What happens after we finish spending it on importations

This is the Genesis of our problem.

Ohyoudidnt:


Have you ever heard about the Monistic Postulate?

The monistic view posits that all elements, both known and unknown, are derived from a single primordial element. This is in line with the concept of embracing the Unity of Elements.

It is a bad science sir.

Everything is made from the basic atoms which consist of protons, electrons, neutrons and other subatomic particles.

This include Hydrogen and Oxygen from whose reaction water is made. Hydrogen as the smallest element is made up of a single Proton, a neutral and an electron!

Is it true to say that:
All concrete houses are made from water?

Expanse2020:
at the 6st our Jesus was crucified
But another verse said it's was at the 3rdhrs he was hanged... Who is lying among them
John or mark

Can you please first answer correctly:
When did Imam bukhari die?

Expanse2020:
Odẹ Ibadan.
What formed clay or mud....is it not water + sand...So
Adam( P.B.U.H) was created from water + sand called Mud...
Quran VERSE to back it up 👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇on it ways,😜😜😜😜
Al anbiya
Do not the Unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were joined together (as one unit of creation), (FIRST BIGBANG THEORY) before we clove them asunder?

We made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe?

BONUS FOR YOU MOTHER FUCKER
GOOGLE IT OUT what constitutes this earth and also human body mainly
Olodo may sure you share it with us here
Thank you for the enlightenment in advance😂😂🤣🤣🤣

You forgot what you said:

Expanse2020:

Did you know Allah said he created everything with water..and did you know is true
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Do you know the meaning of everything ?
Did you Not say Allah created everything with water?

Everything include Hydrogen, Helium, lithium, Beryllium, Carbon, the Sun, Jinn, Angels,... Are these created with water?

So, can you see who the dumdum is here!?


To you, it is an unknown thing that every living thing that feed on earth needs water for survival and it took only took Mohammed to know and teach us that mammals, fish, reptiles, insects contain water. What a discovery that couldn't have been known by any man. Please clap for Allah and Mohammed for this discovery!

Why did Allah say he created man from mud when he actually created man from water (according to your submission)?
Did Allah Allah create man from mud or from water?

Jinns are living beings that live on the earth, are they also made from water?
Back your answer up with your Qur'an?


Since you now believe in Google, will you now please google out if
1. Mountains of ice exist in the sky from which Allah cuts hails to stone his enemies?
2. Stars are missiles Allah throw at satan for peaping into heaven?
3. Babies grow between the backbone and the ribs of a woman?


Is it correct to say that ALL buildings are made FROM water?
This is like what you claim about Allah and his prophet

Expanse2020:



John 19:14 On the six hours
John 19:16 Jesus was crucified

Mark 15:25 on the 3rd hours
Act 5;30 he was hanged

See your life outside 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I know you will see something talk....
See difference between John and Mark...
And maybe you should dictionary to check meaning and different between hang and crucify
Olodo nii omode yii

You can read English except you are a fraudulent person.

What exactly happened at the sixth hour?
What exactly happened at the third hour?


You know exactly why you cannot answer these two questions : fraud is in your blood

Expanse2020:

But you can see from the hadith you coat that he instruct another person to write his name🤣🤣🤣 don't be a dullard man

There is no doubt that Mohammed had secretaries, but the hadith said he wrote didn't it?

It's your religious book sir: is it another Lie?
.

What would Islam not lie about?


In Musnad Ahmad 656, Is it untrue that the Messenger of Allah wrote, `In the Name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.`

Expanse2020:

Did you know Allah said he created everything with water..and did you know is true
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Is Lithium created with water?
Is Iron created with water?
Is Uranium created with water?

Is the electron created with water?
Are protons created with water?
Are electromagnetic waves created with water?

None of these contain Hydrogen nor Oxygen.

See how Allah goofed big time again. It is impossible that Allah is the Creator if he makes silly blunders like this!


Did Allah create Angels with water or light?
Did Allah create Jinn with water ?
Did Allah create Adam with water or Mud/Clay?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g82z_6D1MwY&si=y5ZrzTapaNt08wuN


AntiChristian
honesttalk21
Expanse2020
Lukuluku69

Here is one of your scholars : is he speaking the Islamic truth or he is manufacturing his own conjecture?

[quote author=Expanse2020 post=128260517][/quote]

Is the prophet of Islam able to read and write?

Inductrinated Muslims will still say no even though they've been shown Evidences from their own books.

Why were your scholars lying about Mohammed's literacy?

Expanse2020:

You a fool
ready it carefully if you spot any lie challenge me..
Am not like you that twisted book... Direct verses from your falacy book

I am waiting :

Instead of closing your eyes in shame that your Allah is full of scientific and historical blunders impossible for God to make

Expanse2020:


John 19:14 On the six hours🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Mark 15:25 on the 3rd hours
Who is lying now

John 19:16 Jesus was crucified 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Act 5;30 he was hanged 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Wahala wahala wahala

Or am I lying

Nothing peter eye no go see finish for Jesus thombs

The most stupid conjectures. Why did you not post exactly the verses. And we compare the errors.?

What exactly happened at the sixth hour?
What exactly happened at the third hour?

A crucified person is hanged with nails on his hands and feet : is this untrue?
They don't crucify anyone with ropes on the neck sir.

Khai!

So that you will get sense
Verses before Acts5:30 clarifying your royal dumbness
Acts 2:23: "Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, you have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:"

Acts 2:36: "Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God has made the same Jesus, whom you have crucified, both Lord and Christ."

Acts 4:10: "Be it known to you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him does this man stand here before you whole."



I am still waiting for you to show me in whose presence Jesus was taken to heaven!

Expanse2020:

Different narrative from John,Luke,Mattew, mark

John 20:1-8
The Resurrection of Jesus
20 Early on the first day of the week, while it was still dark, Mary Magdalene came to the tomb and saw that the stone had been removed from the tomb. MARRY ONLY AND THE THOMB HAS BEEN OPEN 2 So she ran and went to Simon Peter and the other disciple, the one whom Jesus loved, and said to them, “They have taken the Lord out of the tomb, and we do not know where they have laid him.” 3 Then Peter and the other disciple set out and went toward the tomb. 4 The two were running together, but the other disciple outran Peter and reached the tomb first. 5 He bent down to look in and saw the linen wrappings lying there, but he did not go in. 6 Then Simon Peter came, following him, and went into the tomb. He saw the linen wrappings lying there, 7 and the cloth that had been on Jesus’s head, not lying with the linen wrappings but rolled up in a place by itself. 8 Then the other disciple, who reached the tomb first, also went in, and he saw and believed, 9 for as yet they did not understand the scripture, that he must rise from the dead. 10 Then the disciples returned to their homes.

Jesus Appears to Mary Magdalene
11 But Mary stood weeping outside the tomb . As she wept, she bent over to look[a] into the tomb, 12 and she saw two angels in white sitting where the body of Jesus had been lying, one at the head and the other at the feet. 13 They said to her, “Woman, why are you weeping?” She said to them, “They have taken away my Lord, and I do not know where they have laid him.” 14 When she had said this, she turned around and saw Jesus standing there, but she did not know that it was Jesus. 15 Jesus said to her, “Woman, why are you weeping? Whom are you looking for?” Supposing him to be the gardener, she said to him, “Sir, if you have carried him away, tell me where you have laid him, and I will take him away.” 16 Jesus said to her, “Mary!” She turned and said to him in Hebrew,[c] “Rabbouni!” (which means Teacher). 17 Jesus said to her, “Do not touch me, because I have not yet ascended to the Father. [b]But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’ ” [/b]18 Mary Magdalene went and announced to the disciples, “I have seen the Lord,” and she told them that he had said these things to her.
PLEASE WHERE DID PETER AND OTHERS DISERPEAR IN A BLINK OF AN EYE

[b]Bros Mattew 😂
The Resurrection of Jesus
28 After the Sabbath, as the first day of the week was dawning, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary went to see the tomb. 2 And suddenly there was a great earthquake, for an angel of the Lord, descending from heaven, EARTHQUAKE
REALLY 🤣🤣 came and rolled back the stone and sat on it. 3 His appearance was like lightning and his clothing white as snow. 4 For fear of him the guards shook and became like dead men. 5 But the angel said to the women, “Do not be afraid, for I know that you are looking for Jesus who was crucified. 6 He is not here, for he has been raised, as he said. Come, see the place where he[a] lay. 7 Then go quickly and tell his disciples, ‘He has been raised from the dead, and indeed he is going ahead of you to Galilee; there you will see him.’ This is my message for you.” 8 So they left the tomb quickly with fear and great joy and ran to tell his disciples. 9[b] Suddenly Jesus met them and said, “Greetings!” And they came to him, took hold of his feet, and worshiped him. 10 Then Jesus said to them, “Do not be afraid; go and tell my brothers and sisters to go to Galilee; there they will see me.”
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MR MARK GBEMIDEBE
16 When the Sabbath was over, Mary Magdalene and Mary the mother of James and Salome bought spices, so that they might go and anoint him. 2 And very early on the first day of the week[b], when the sun had risen, they went to the tomb[/b]. 3 They had been saying to one another, “Who will roll away the stone for us from the entrance to the tomb?” 4 When they looked up, they saw that the stone(THEY DIDN'T SEE ANY ANGEL), which was very large, had already been rolled back. 5 As they entered the tomb, they saw a young man dressed in a white robe sitting on the right side, and they were alarmed. 6 But he said to them, “Do not be alarmed; you are looking for Jesus of Nazareth, who was crucified. He has been raised; he is not here(JE (WAS NOT AT THE THOMB OR VICINITY) 😂😂🤣. Look, there is the place they laid him(WHER😂😂E). 7 (WHO IS TALKING PLEASE 🤣🤣🤣)But go, tell his disciples and (WHICH PETER, THE ONE THAT FOLLOW MARY BEFORE 🤣🤣) Peter that he is going ahead of you to Galilee; there you will see him, just as he told you.” 8 So they went out and fled from the tomb, for terror and amazement had seized them, and they said nothing to anyone, for they were afraid.[a]

BROS LUKE COME ANT TELL US THE TRUTH JARE
The Resurrection of Jesus
24 But on the first day of the week, at early dawn, they went to the tomb, taking the spices that they had prepared. 2 They found the stone rolled away from the tomb, 3 but when they went in they did not find the body.[a] 4 While they were perplexed about this, suddenly[b] two men in dazzling clothes stood beside them[/b] (I KNOW U WILL SAY THE TRUTH 😂😂😂NOT ANGEL). 5 The women[b] were terrified and bowed their faces to the ground,[b] but the men[c] said to the[/b]m, “Why do you look for the living among the dead? He is not here but has risen.[d] 6 Remember how he told you, while he was still in Galilee, 7 that the Son of Man must be handed over to the hands of sinners and be crucified and on the third day rise again.” 8 Then they remembered his words, 9 and returning from the tomb they told all this to the eleven and to all the rest. 10 Now it was Mary Magdalene, Joanna, Mary the mother of James, and the other women with them who told this to the apostles. 11 But these words seemed to them an idle tale, and they did not believe them. 12 But Peter got up and ran to the tomb; stooping and looking in, he saw the linen cloths by themselves; then he went home, amazed at

Thank you so for the clarity UNCLES

THAT IS WHAT THEY CALLED CONCRETE EVIDENCE IN THE FALLACY BOOK
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PATIENTLY WAITING FOR YOU TO DEBUNK IT

DID THEY ACTUALLY SEE THE JESUS AT RESURRECTION EVEN ON THE THOMB

You are writing gibberish!

You made some claims, now, one by one, state your claim AND the supporting verse.
Is that difficult?

Start over, one claim at a time!

honesttalk21:






You Tenq or NairaLTQ wrote


And



Putting words into my mouth or speaking for me
With regards to your quote above in which I bolded your statement strictly defining the backbone I tell you that

The vertebral column (spine or backbone) is a curved structure composed of bony vertebrae that are interconnected by cartilaginous intervertebral discs. It is part of the axial skeleton and extends from the base of the skull to the tip of the coccyx.

Final Question :
And please be truthful

Is it true or untrue that the heart and lungs is between the ribs and the back bone?

honesttalk21:
You are forcing a cervical vertebrae which I never mentioned except in replying your immediate previous.

You don't know enough anatomy or have significant knowledge of obstetrics to address this. It's best you stop displaying ignorance. I at least did some sonographic work and schooling.

Did the picture labelled not show the baby in the uterus under the ribs? You are pathetically lieing about the obvious truth. Too bad you are so so wrong.

Just like the bladder is between the ribs and the back bone: according to the biology of Allah and honesttalk21 and Mohammed!

Is it true or untrue that the heart and lungs is between the ribs and the back bone?

Expanse2020:

The word let me write for you in that hadith in Arabic show me here.,.I want to check something there 😂😂🤣😂😂😂
Olodo oshi

Let me help you with another evidence


Musnad Ahmad 656
It was narrated that `Ubaidullah bin ‘Iyad bin `Amr al-Qari said:
`Abdullah bin Shaddad came and entered upon `A`ishah (رضي الله عنها) when we were sitting with her, as he was returning from Iraq during the time when ‘Ali (رضي الله عنه) was murdered....... .
But Suhail bin `Amr came to us when we were with the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) at al-Hudaibiyah, when he made a peace deal with Quraish, and the Messenger of Allah wrote, `In the Name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.`
Suhail said: Do not write, In the Name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful. He said: What should we write? He said: Write: `In Your Name, O Allah.” The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: Write `Muhammad the Messenger of Allah.`......


Instead of you being thankful that I am showing you the truth, you are angry!

If I were you, I will go and meet my Islamic scholars to ask why they lied to Muslims about the literacy of your prophet Mohammed!