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Religion / Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by NairaLTQ: 11:04am On Jan 31
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Continue explain Quran with your holy spirit 🤣🤣🤣🤣
You dont surprise me one bit as the spirit of deception and taqqiya is ruling your life.
Your mantra:
Don't confuse me with the Truth because I have already made up my mind!


The average muslim is not concerned about the truth and he will sacrifice it just to hold on to the deception of Mohammed and his alias Allah!
Religion / Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by NairaLTQ: 10:59am On Jan 31
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When it teach us how to fiddling with Ladies

Quran 66:12
And Maryam (Mary) daughter of Imran, who kept safe her private parts (Vagina) so We breathed in it (vagina) of Our Spirit, and she sincerely (believed) in the Words of her Lord, and His Books; and she was one of the devout.



Is this holy Cunnilingus by Jibril?
If Mary didn't see an Angel (come to her) but a man, how did he (Jubril) blow into Mary's Vagina?


What is Jubril's mouth doing on the vagina of Mary? What was he blowing into Mary's Vagina? I am struggling not to imagine how Jubril has to plug his mouth to fit Mary's Vagina for the purpose of Blowing!

Over to you!
Religion / Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by NairaLTQ: 10:53am On Jan 31
MightySparrow:


Abi o.
Truth no dey get second version.
Na so o!
Religion / Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by NairaLTQ: 10:52am On Jan 31
Here it is again:
I have articulated the video for you here, what do you think?

The summary is this:
1. The Jews boast that they killed Isa the Son of Mary
2. Allah is saying that this is not true because
a. He was the one who caused it to be (if you like--through destiny) and as such, the Jews are only following the will of Allah (unknowingly)
b. Isa is with him Alive in Paradise.

The whole verse is to show that the Jews have no power to do other than what Allah has destined to be and that all their activities were preordained by Allah and not them.

This is consistent with:
Qur'an 3:55
Lo! God said: "O Jesus! Verily, I shall cause thee to die, and shall exalt thee unto Me, and cleanse thee of [the presence of] those who are bent on denying the truth; and I shall place those who follow thee [far] above those who are bent on denying the truth, unto the Day of Resurrection. In the end, unto Me you all must return, and I shall judge between you with regard to all on which you were wont to differ


and

Qur'an 19:33
There was peace on me the day I was born, and will be the day I die, and on the day I will be raised from the dead."



Of course, most of the scholars of Islam tries to misinterpret I shall cause thee to die, from Qur'an 3:55 as

1. O Jesus, I will take you to Myself
2. Lo! I am gathering thee
3. I will take thee

for the word mutawaffeeka (متوفيك) which means "cause to die"



This is the breakdown: that the Qur'an is NOT saying that Jesus did not die but the power of death and life is in the hands of Allah alone



Thanks!

honesttalk21:


Simply restate
Religion / Re: The Qur'an: Cascade Of Lies ALWAYS Fall Like A Pack Of Cards by NairaLTQ: 10:51am On Jan 31
honesttalk21:


Use it to show please.

Is the coccyx not part of the backbone because it is distal and terminates? Are other parts of the womb housing the baby not adjacent to the lumbar vertebrae?
I wonder where you saw me say that the coccyx is part of the backbone!

The backbone is strictly
The Thoracic (T1-T12) and the Lumbar vertebrae (L1-L5).

What I displayed was the vertebral column which includes the neck bones

Religion / Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by NairaLTQ: 9:51am On Jan 31
MightySparrow:



Taqiyyah.
grin
See how they purposely misinterpret Qur'an 3:55 to say what they want Allah to say!

TenQ:


The summary of David Wood's submission is this:
1. The Jews boast that they killed Isa the Son of Mary
2. Allah is saying that this is not true because
a. He was the one who caused it to be (if you like--through destiny) and as such, the Jews are only following the will of Allah (unknowingly)
b. Isa is with him Alive in Paradise.

The whole verse is to show that the Jews have no power to do other than what Allah has destined to be and that all their activities were preordained by Allah and not them.

This is consistent with:
Qur'an 3:55
Lo! God said: "O Jesus! Verily, I shall cause thee to die, and shall exalt thee unto Me, and cleanse thee of [the presence of] those who are bent on denying the truth; and I shall place those who follow thee [far] above those who are bent on denying the truth, unto the Day of Resurrection. In the end, unto Me you all must return, and I shall judge between you with regard to all on which you were wont to differ


and

Qur'an 19:33
There was peace on me the day I was born, and will be the day I die, and on the day I will be raised from the dead."



Of course, most of the scholars of Islam tries to misinterpret I shall cause thee to die, from Qur'an 3:55 as

1. O Jesus, I will take you to Myself
2. Lo! I am gathering thee
3. I will take thee

for the word mutawaffeeka (متوفيك) which means "cause to die"



This is the breakdown: that the Qur'an is NOT saying that Jesus did not die but the power of death and life is in the hands of Allah alone



Thanks!
Religion / Re: The Qur'an: Cascade Of Lies ALWAYS Fall Like A Pack Of Cards by NairaLTQ: 9:47am On Jan 31
honesttalk21:


We are not speaking of proof of pregnancy here but the position of the baby and womb at about the full term through the birthing process.

You do not know obstetrics and the ability of a normal uterus during the cause of pregnancy to expand even up to 500 times its normal size. Displacing body organs like the gastric system/intestines, liver, kidney. As the uterus grows, it is pushing organs out of their usual places and putting tension on surrounding muscles and ligaments. This will likely cause some aches and pains, but they are completely normal.

Uterus Size During Pregnancy at third trimester, the uterus will finish growing and be the size of a watermelon. At full term the uterus will extend from the pubic area to the bottom of the rib cage.

Pardon my saying gynaecology instead obstetrics earlier on. They often go together.

The backbone is pictured with broken rectangles in the picture attached and you see the emboldened above don't you?

Your reference again to neck pain really looks like a big lie all for the sake of debate? Pitiful! Did you ever accompany your wife for a sonographic scan in her early pregnancy or this technology was not yet available at this time? Did you take notice of areas the sonologist roamed the probe around on your wife's belly? How high up did he go? Did he get to the base of the sternum or you were just there and mainly absent minded?
This is TenQ :

I don't know why the Nairaland spam bots banned me.

Your diagram is even against you sir

Religion / Re: Wishing My. Muslim Friends A Happy 2024 by NairaLTQ: 10:31pm On Jan 04
Lukuluku69:


Eyah.

You mean your version of the "Truth"?

Keep living your delusion.

You are so fixated with Islam and Muslims that you had to open a Thread and wish them Happy New Year?

Lol

You are simply pathetic.

Open a Thread and wish the Jews Happy New year too nah cheesy
So, you would have wished I opened a thread to curse you this new year!?

This was simply surposed to be a felicitation but as usual, you will dispute over falsehood s and when questioned, you hide your ignorance under slimy and slinky manoeuvres.

When you have studied Islam better, come and meet me.

Good Night.

This is TenQ greeting you again : happy new year to you
Religion / Re: Wishing My. Muslim Friends A Happy 2024 by NairaLTQ: 10:11pm On Jan 04
Lukuluku69:


You are a waste of Time.
See the one who can't respond to inconsistencies in his religion claiming waste of time.

Anyways, have a nice day: the Truth will touch your heart one day!
Religion / Re: Wishing My. Muslim Friends A Happy 2024 by NairaLTQ: 9:19pm On Jan 04
Lukuluku69:


Do you think spelling Allah as allah change the meaning?

I referred to your Jesus with a small g simply because he is a small g God.

I don't have to face you bros.

You will waste my time. You have done that severally.

That Peter you quoted was written by a Retard for Retards.
You would rather I spell Allah with small "a" because I don't believe he's the true God!?

You don't have to face me because talk is cheap when you don't have a convincing case and argument.

You can't even answer simple questions without escaping as usual


Please answer my question :

Is it true or untrue that Muslim babies can go TODAY hell fire?

AND
Why would Muslims after all these righteousness still end up in the fire (even if it is temporarily)?
in Qur'an 19:71


One has to flog you several times to get you speak the truth to questions
Religion / Re: People Of The "Religion Of Peace": Where Is Hatun Tash? by NairaLTQ: 8:36pm On Jan 04
Ohyoudidnt:


Does your belief need support? Are you seeking validation for your belief?

وَمَا قَتَلُوهُ وَمَا صَلَبُوهُ
They did not kill him, nor did they crucify him


So all your knowledge is merely conjectured!?
I am disappointed!

You cannot even assent to your claim, are you a coward!?

Again!
If I understand you correctly, your view is that
1. Jesus was crucified on the cross
2. However, Jesus did not die on the cross

Are you standing with this claim or not?

The Righteous are as BOLD as Lions!
Religion / Re: Wishing My. Muslim Friends A Happy 2024 by NairaLTQ: 8:31pm On Jan 04
Do you think spelling G_O_D with lower case make your case stronger!? It actually shows that you are already beaten and like a drowning man need just anything to hold on to (even if it is slander) to make. Only pigs try the mud game as they enjoy the game of mutual disrespect of God the Creator and all that is Holy! I can play the game very well but I'm not a pig.

I guess you expect me to retaliate with slandering Allah and your prophet Mohammed and then you'll be happy.

Face me if you can!



Lukuluku69:


The same way your god went to Hell when he proclaimed "it is finished nah.


Let me help you out

1. Where is Jesus according to Allah?

2. Did you read this

1Pet 3:18-20:
"For Christ also has once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: By which also he went and preached to the spirits in prison(Hell) ; Which sometime were disobedient, when once the long-suffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing,
wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water."


Why did he go to hell?
Religion / Re: Wishing My. Muslim Friends A Happy 2024 by NairaLTQ: 8:00pm On Jan 04
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This is TenQ

Unfortunately, my account got suspended again for pasting two Arabic sentences.

I attach a picture, translate the Arabic into English and let's see if your scholars are speaking the truth as per the meaning of يُصَلُّونَ

Celebrities / Re: I’m Tired Of Wayward Lifestyle - Blessing Ceo Cries Out For Husband At Shiloh by NairaLTQ: 4:58am On Dec 12, 2023
Lukuluku69:


My Lord DOES as He PLEASES.

Same way Jehovah WILL have MERCY on whom HE WILL HAVE MERCY.

It is not for me to start Rationalizing Jehovah's thinking or actions as a person of Faith.
So, Allah will have mercy on some certain inmates of hell fire on th sole criteria simply because he created them with a tight vagina!?
(The same vagina that got them into hell and whichbthey probably used to to glorify satan on earth).

If this is not satanic, why not.


Hear the words of the Messiah on this

Mar 12:25:
"For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven."


cc:
TenQ
Celebrities / Re: I’m Tired Of Wayward Lifestyle - Blessing Ceo Cries Out For Husband At Shiloh by NairaLTQ: 4:22pm On Dec 11, 2023
Lukuluku69:


My Lord can reward me as He PLEASES. If a Tight Punna is one of them, no wahala.

As for Hell, sebi your own Lord went there sometimes before....
I agree but...
What is the rational for granting a hell fire worthy person paradise because she has a tight vagina?
Celebrities / Re: I’m Tired Of Wayward Lifestyle - Blessing Ceo Cries Out For Husband At Shiloh by NairaLTQ: 3:21pm On Dec 11, 2023
Lukuluku69:


Am I surprised? No

Do you know why? It came from a confused Soul.

No wonder!

Lukuluku69:


Keep wandering perhaps one day. Just one day....

The Jews that believed in Abraham's God? Lol

You tell me their Fate according to what Jesus and his Deputy Paul says about that.
Allah and his prophet feel that tight vagina is a better qualification than goodness as a hope for emancipation from hell fire.
And you agree with it!
Family / Re: Trending Video Of Nigerian Dad Being Made Up By His Daughters by NairaLTQ: 2:05pm On Dec 11, 2023
Beautiful!

Father's should not just be the Lion of the tribe of their house but a friend, confidant and provider.

This also shows that the man has a good relationship also with his daughters mother.

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Celebrities / Re: I’m Tired Of Wayward Lifestyle - Blessing Ceo Cries Out For Husband At Shiloh by NairaLTQ: 2:04pm On Dec 11, 2023
Lukuluku69:


If you don't know Allah and His Wills, then shut your useless Mouth and let your confused depraved mind stop its endless wandering in things you have no idea of.

If as a Slave, my Master wishes to reward me as He pleases, I gat no qualms with that.

If Allah promise a believing Slave felicity in Allah's Paradise, it is not for me to questions the ways and manners.
Don't you see that this is simply satanic temptation!?

You think it makes sense that God will remove virtually all the wayward women who are inmates of hell simply because they have tight vaginas alone!?

What kind of God removes people from hell fire simply because he created them with tight vaginas?

What about the Jews who believed in the God of Abraham, tried to live right but never became Muslims? What about the men in hell fire: do they have the same benevolence as the women? The old women nko? Their vagina wouldn't be tight enough for you Muslims!

You have been decieved!
Is this your God!?
Celebrities / Re: I’m Tired Of Wayward Lifestyle - Blessing Ceo Cries Out For Husband At Shiloh by NairaLTQ: 1:15pm On Dec 11, 2023
Lukuluku69:


Are you a Dunce?

I am not Allah. Direct your questions to Allah. If Allah chooses to reward a slave as He Pleases what is my own there to start rationalizing it?

If Jehovah want you to sing Hymns to Him for Zillions of years in Eternity, that's no skin of my nose.
I don't know your Allah.
I have never prayed to him and never will.

You are his slave and you should know what your oga want for you.


The question is:


Why do you think Allah will free 70 women from the people of hell with tight vagina for your sexual enjoyment and pleasure in paradise?

If you don't understand, why would Allah free 70 evil godless Idolaters from hell fire simply because they are good in bedmatics and sex?
Celebrities / Re: I’m Tired Of Wayward Lifestyle - Blessing Ceo Cries Out For Husband At Shiloh by NairaLTQ: 4:38am On Dec 11, 2023
Lukuluku69:


No be only confound na confine.

Do the usual nah.

Open another useless Thread and add to the thrash on Cyber Space.

cheesy

Are you a coward!?

This question is only for you. Don't you have an answer as usual?
.

Why do you think Allah will free 70 women from the people of hell for your sexual enjoyment and pleasure in paradise?
Celebrities / Re: I’m Tired Of Wayward Lifestyle - Blessing Ceo Cries Out For Husband At Shiloh by NairaLTQ: 9:38pm On Dec 10, 2023
Lukuluku69:


Go for Deliverance, you are typing epistle as if you swallowed an IBM Typewriter.

Open a Thread as usually nah

Mr Lukuluku,
See how easy it is to confound you Muslims!

Sunan Ibn Majah 4337
It was narrated from Abu Umamah that the Messenger of Allah said:
“There is no one whom Allah will admit to Paradise but Allah will marry him to seventy-two wives, two from houris and seventy from his inheritance from the people of Hell, all of whom will have desirable front passages and he will have a male member that never becomes flaccid (i.e., soft and limp).’”


Why do you think Allah will free 70 women from the people of hell for your sexual enjoyment and pleasure in paradise?
Family / Re: Why Do Rich Men Deceive We Poor Men Like This??? (PICTURES) by NairaLTQ: 8:36pm On Dec 10, 2023
Obavoh:
After eating, the wife asked us to sit outside and served us some fruits.

As we were eating, my uncle came out and greeted us. This was around 9:30am. He went inside again and we waited for about 3hrs before he stepped outside.

He told me to go inside and collect a package from his wife, which I did.

When I came out, my friend told me my uncle drove his car out of the compound.

I was heartbroken.

The wife gave me frozen fish. My wife fried some and roasted the rest because we don’t own freezer
So sorry.

From your uncles experience,
Your uncle truly believes that you will NOT pay back the loan .
Then you will give him excuses why you cant pay back.
And because he's perceived to be a rich man, he would be deemed wicked if he tried to collect his money by force.


He is not psychologically prepared to loose N600,000 just like that and he knows that there is no way you would understand him.

Too bad...find an alternative

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Celebrities / Re: I’m Tired Of Wayward Lifestyle - Blessing Ceo Cries Out For Husband At Shiloh by NairaLTQ: 8:24pm On Dec 10, 2023
Lukuluku69:


Is this all?
Time to pretend to be deaf and dumb again. I just asked you a simple questionj


Mr Lukuluku,
I said: Please help me understand this hadith

Sunan Ibn Majah 4337
It was narrated from Abu Umamah that the Messenger of Allah said:
“There is no one whom Allah will admit to Paradise but Allah will marry him to seventy-two wives, two from houris and seventy from his inheritance from the people of Hell, all of whom will have desirable front passages and he will have a male member that never becomes flaccid (i.e., soft and limp).’”


Why do you think Allah will free 70 women from the people of hell for your sexual enjoyment and pleasure in paradise?

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Celebrities / Re: I’m Tired Of Wayward Lifestyle - Blessing Ceo Cries Out For Husband At Shiloh by NairaLTQ: 8:10pm On Dec 10, 2023
The Nairaland Bots just banned my response to you
Lukuluku69:
TENQ,

See what I was saying?


One of Jesus Agent is calling you here.

You will need deliverance from the followings;

1. Perpetual Ignorance
2. Spiritual Whataboutism
3. Intentional Scriptures Twisting.
4. Congenital Fear of the Muslims.
5. Any other hidden Ailments known only to Jehovah.

Remember to collect the Keys to Hellfire because, this Agent is a Gate Keeper in Hades

One of yours is tired of Fornication and waywardness.
Lukuluku69:
TENQ,

See what I was saying?


One of Jesus Agent is calling you here.

You will need deliverance from the followings;

1. Perpetual Ignorance
2. Spiritual Whataboutism
3. Intentional Scriptures Twisting.
4. Congenital Fear of the Muslims.
5. Any other hidden Ailments known only to Jehovah.

Remember to collect the Keys to Hellfire because, this Agent is a Gate Keeper in Hades

One of yours is tired of Fornication and waywardness.
I've not complained to you of anything , have I?
So, why take panadol for another person's virtual non-existent headache?

Deal with the gross level of falsehood inherent in your false religion.

Jesus is ever present to accept any TRULY repentant sinner no matter how bad such had been AND He transforms their lives so that the sinner you despise today becomes the righteous God lover of tomorrow.

Hear what Jesus said:
Luke 15:7
I say unto you, that even so there shall be joy in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine righteous persons, who need no repentance.


Of course , you cannot understand this mystery.

It is good news if a creature of God who used to live in fornication and waywardness TRULY turn to God for cleansing rather than slamming their heads on the ground to a fictitious imposture deity and his fake prophet who speaks only Arabic.




Lukuluku,
Please help me understand this hadith

Sunan Ibn Majah 4337
It was narrated from Abu Umamah that the Messenger of Allah said:
“There is no one whom Allah will admit to Paradise but Allah will marry him to seventy-two wives, two from houris and seventy from his inheritance from the people of Hell, all of whom will have desirable front passages and he will have a male member that never becomes flaccid (i.e., soft and limp).’”


Why do you think Allah will free 70 women from the people of hell for your sexual enjoyment and pleasure in paradise?

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Religion / Re: Why Muslims Pray To Mohammed! by NairaLTQ: 6:06pm On Oct 09, 2023
Mr Ohyoudidnt,
Part 2:

al-Tabari (d. 923), Ismail K. Poonawala, ed, The History of al-Tabari [Ta’rikh al-rusul wa’l-muluk], vol. IX, SUNY Press, pp. 129-130,
Sa‘id b. Yahya b. Sa‘id al-Umawi- his father- Muhammad b. ‘Amr- Yahya b. ‘Abd al-Rahman b. Hatib- ‘A’isha: When Khadijah died, Khawlah bt. Hakim b. Umayyah b. al-Awqas, wife of ‘Uthman b. Maz‘un, who was in Mecca, said [to the Messenger of God], "O Messenger of God, will you not marry?" He replied, "Whom?" "....
She went to Abu Bakr’s house, where she found Umm Ruman, mother of ‘A’ishah, and said, "O Umm Ruman, what a good thing and a blessing has God brought to you!" She said, "What is that?" Khawlah replied, "The Messenger of God has sent me to ask for ‘A’ishah’s hand in marriage on his behalf." She answered, "I ask that you wait for Abu Bakr, for he should be on his way." When Abu Bakr came, Khawlah repeated what she had said. He replied, "She is [like] his brother’s daughter. Would she be appropriate for him?" When Khawlah returned to the Messenger of God and told him about it he said, "Go back to him and say that he is my brother in Islam and that I am his brother [in Islam], so his daughter is good for me." She came to Abu Bakr and told him what the Messenger of God had said. Then he asked her to wait until he returned.
Umm Ruman said that al-Mut‘im b. ‘Adi had asked ‘A’ishah’s hand for his son, but Abu Bakr had not promised anything. Abu Bakr left and went to Mut‘im while his wife, mother of the son for whom he had asked ‘A’ishah’s hand, was with him. She said, "O son of Abu Quhafah, perhaps we could marry our son to your daughter if you could make him leave his religion and bring him in to the religion which you practice." He turned to her husband al-Mut‘im and said, "What is she saying?" He replied, "She says [what you have heard]." Abu Bakr left, [realizing that] God had [just] removed the problem he had in his mind. He said to Khawlah, "Call the Messenger of God." She called him and he came. Abu Bakr married [‘A’ishah] to him when she was [only] six years old.
Religion / Re: Why Muslims Pray To Mohammed! by NairaLTQ: 6:03pm On Oct 09, 2023
Mr Ohyoudidnt,
Overwhelming Evidences show that Aisha was a child bride both from the hadiths and Islamic historical books. They can't all be wrong.

The fact that Aisha was at the battle of Uhud was at the capacity of her being a WIFE to Mohammed. the Qur'an She did not go out to fight but to service her husband. Adults don't play with dolls.

Finally, the you can't excuse away the truth without establishing the motive of the narrators of the history of Aisha's marriage to Mohammed.

Other historical books


al-Tabari (d. 923), Ismail K. Poonawala, ed, The History of al-Tabari [Ta’rikh al-rusul wa’l-muluk], vol. IX, SUNY Press, p. 128
As for 'A'ishah, when he married her she was very young and not yet ready for consummation, (note:877) whereas Sawdah was already married before.


Ibn Sa'd, Tabagat, VIII, 39-56; Balidhuri, Ansdb, I, 409-21.
She was six years old when the Prophet married her in Shawwil , tenth year of the mission. The marriage was consummated in Shawwil in Medina when she was nine years old. She died in Ramadan

https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Aisha
Religion / Re: Why Muslims Pray To Mohammed! by NairaLTQ: 6:00pm On Oct 09, 2023
Ohyoudidnt:


Commendable summation. However I doubt you sufficiently investigated your claims. It appears a conveniently accepted view based on a rooted bias/hatred of Islam.




1.While listing names of Muslims during the first days of Islam, Aisha’s name, together with her older sister Asma, are listed immediately after the names of the Sabiqun al-Awwalun (the first ones) like Uthman ibn Affan, Zubayr ibn Awwam, Abdurrahman ibn Awf, Sa’d ibn Abi Waqqas, Talha ibn Ubaydullah, Abu Ubayda ibn Jarrah, Arqam ibn Abi al-Arqam and Uthman ibn Maz’un. Being the 18th person to accept Islam, Aisha’s name precedes the names of Umayr ibn Abi Waqqas, Abdullah ibn Mas’ud, Salit ibn Amr, Ja’far ibn Abi Talib, Abdullah ibn Jahsh, Abu Hudayfa, Suhayb ibn Sinan, Ammar ibn Yasir, Umar ibn Khattab, Hamza ibn Abdilmuttalib, Habbab ibn Aratt, Said ibn Zayd and Fatima bint Khattab. This means she was living then and was mature enough to make such a choice and exercise her will. In addition, the information in reports that “she was a small girl then” shows that her name was mentioned in a conscious way [Ibn Hisham, Sira, 1/271; Ibn Hisham, Sira, 124.].

This date refers to the early days of Islam. For it is known that Aisha’s sister Asma, who was born around 595, was 15 when she became a Muslim [Nawawi, Tahzib al-Asma, 2/597; Hakim, Mustadrak, 3/635]. This indicates the year 610, when the Prophet started to receive the revelation and this then shows that Aisha was at least 5, 6 or 7 that day and that she was at least 17 or 18 when she married the Prophet in Medina.

2. You should consider that her playing with dolls in this case is to show playing with dolls shouldn't be confused with idolatry.
The hadeeth indicates that the toys that young girls play with are allowed, meaning dolls, which are essentially statues. It is deduced from this hadeeth that playing with dolls is not like the amusement with other images concerning which the threat of punishment is mentioned. Rather, it was deemed permissible. Are you not familiar with mature ladies that have teddy bears or dolls?

3. In truth the claim of adultery was a lie which was started by Abdullahi ibn Ubayy who seemingly became a Muslim, but Muslim tradition says that he remained treacherous to Islam until his death. Regarding this the following was revealed:
Q24:11 Indeed, those who came with falsehood are a group among you. Do not think it bad for you; rather, it is good for you. For every person among them is what [punishment] he has earned from the sin, and he who took upon himself the greater portion thereof - for him is a great punishment.

4. Perharps you will elucidate on this but bear in mind she provided assistance during battles. Would a sloppy person be able to provide assistance.

5. The hadiths narrated by people with questionable people in the line of transmission?

6. Abu Bakr's concerns centered around the fact that she was already bethroted to Jubayr, the son of Mut'im ibn Adi who's family later became afraid she would convert him from their pagan tradition.
Also he feared their marriage affecting his relations with Muhammad pbuh. Buhari 5081
The Prophet pbuh asked Abu Bakr for `Aisha's hand in marriage. Abu Bakr said "But I am your brother." The Prophet said, "You are my brother in Allah's religion and His Book, but she (Aisha) is lawful for me to marry."

7. Have you also considered historical records that say otherwise? Do you not have the ability to reason or question? Is it that you now do what you wrongly claim muslims do by accepting whatever is said by who is seen as a teacher without investigating individualy?

8. Perharps they do because other aspects of worship are more important that placing so much importance on what will not benefit them. Also it is usually not worthwhile engaging in continuous argument with those who are fixated in their views.

9. And make not over your property (property of the orphan), which Allah had made a (means of) support for you, to the weak of understanding, and maintain them out of it, clothe them and give them good education. And test them until they reach the age of marriage. Then if you find them maturity of intellect, make over them their property……” (Q4:5-6)

No responsible Muslim would hand over financial management to a seven or nine year old immature girl. If we cannot trust a seven-year-old to manage the financial matters, she cannot be intellectually or physically fit for marriage also. Will you classify Abu Bakr ra as irresponsible?

The manner of reports regarding the humiliating treatment and crucifixion of Jesus in Christianity are part of reasons why this is questioned? The Bible too has statements regarding how the crucified are cursed.

The age at which Aisha bint Abu Bakr, the wife of the Islamic prophet Muhammad, was married, has been a topic of debate for centuries. While some claim that she was as young as nine years old at the time of the marriage, evidence supporting the theory that Aisha was indeed older than 10 when she married Muhammad are presented.

1. Historical Context:
To understand Aisha's age at the time of her marriage, it is crucial to consider the historical context of the Arabian Peninsula during that era. Historical records indicate that during the 7th century, the measurement of age was inconsistent, with people commonly having trouble knowing their exact birth year.

2. Contradictory Narratives:
Within Islamic tradition, there are various contradictory narratives regarding Aisha's age at the time of her marriage. While some hadiths suggest that she was nine years old, others present alternative accounts that provide evidence to the contrary. These discrepancies raise concerns regarding the reliability and accuracy of the available information.

3. Aisha's Life Prior to Marriage:
Reports from multiple sources indicate that Aisha actively participated in battles during the early Islamic period. She is known to have been present at the Battle of Uhud, which occurred in 625 CE. Such active involvement in warfare suggests that Aisha was physically and mentally mature, further implying that she was older than nine years old.

4. Dating Methodologies:
Dating methodologies applied to ascertain Aisha's age during her marriage further reinforce the argument that she was older than nine. Historians like Ibn Hibban, Ibn Hajar, and al-Sarakhsi provide an analysis of historical dates, which, along with other supportive evidence, indicate that Aisha may have been closer to 14 or 15 years old when she married Muhammad.

5. Cultural Practices in 7th Century Arabia:
It is important to understand the cultural practices prevalent in 7th-century Arabia, which differed from contemporary norms. In many societies of that era, early marriages were common due to various socio-economic reasons, including the need for alliances, protection, and cultural traditions. Given these prevailing customs, it is plausible that Aisha's marriage at a relatively young age may have been a reflection of the societal norms of the time.

6. Age Discrepancies in Genealogical Records:
Genealogical records play a vital role in estimating the age of individuals during that era. However, discrepancies in such records make it challenging to determine Aisha's exact age. Several prominent Islamic historians, including al-Biruni and Ibn Hazm, have discussed these inconsistencies, further undermining the narrative that Aisha was merely nine years old during her marriage.

Title: Numerated Proof Indicating Aisha Was Older Than 10 When She Married Muhammad

Introduction:
The age at which Aisha bint Abu Bakr, the wife of the Islamic prophet Muhammad, was married, has been a topic of debate for centuries. While some claim that she was as young as nine years old at the time of the marriage, this essay presents structured and numerated evidence supporting the theory that Aisha was indeed older than 10 when she married Muhammad.

1. Historical Context:
To understand Aisha's age at the time of her marriage, it is crucial to consider the historical context of the Arabian Peninsula during that era. Historical records indicate that during the 7th century, the measurement of age was inconsistent, with people commonly having trouble knowing their exact birth year.

2. Contradictory Narratives:
Within Islamic tradition, there are various contradictory narratives regarding Aisha's age at the time of her marriage. While some hadiths suggest that she was nine years old, others present alternative accounts that provide evidence to the contrary. These discrepancies raise concerns regarding the reliability and accuracy of the available information.

3. Aisha's Life Prior to Marriage:
Reports from multiple sources indicate that Aisha actively participated in battles during the early Islamic period. She is known to have been present at the Battle of Uhud, which occurred in 625 CE. Such active involvement in warfare suggests that Aisha was physically and mentally mature, further implying that she was older than nine years old.

4. Dating Methodologies:
Dating methodologies applied to ascertain Aisha's age during her marriage further reinforce the argument that she was older than nine. Historians like Ibn Hibban, Ibn Hajar, and al-Sarakhsi provide an analysis of historical dates, which, along with other supportive evidence, indicate that Aisha may have been closer to 14 or 15 years old when she married Muhammad.

5. Cultural Practices in 7th Century Arabia:
It is important to understand the cultural practices prevalent in 7th-century Arabia, which differed from contemporary norms. In many societies of that era, early marriages were common due to various socio-economic reasons, including the need for alliances, protection, and cultural traditions. Given these prevailing customs, it is plausible that Aisha's marriage at a relatively young age may have been a reflection of the societal norms of the time. Nevertheless none of these reports show any woman married at an age younger than 12.

6. Age Discrepancies in Genealogical Records:
Genealogical records play a vital role in estimating the age of individuals during that era. Several prominent Islamic historians, including al-Biruni and Ibn Hazm, have discussed these inconsistencies, further undermining the narrative that Aisha was merely nine years old during her marriage.

This is TenQ

Unfortunately, I recieved a Ban while posting a reply to this.

I will try to repost it again to the best of my ability.
Religion / Re: Jesus: The Way, The Truth And The Life by NairaLTQ: 12:23pm On Sep 25, 2023
AntiChristian:

Na bad father dey kill his only son because of love!

Only that this Father created death and Life!
Death is a return back to the realm of God.
Too bad you can't understand this!

AntiChristian:

No only word na voice! Only God is omniscient and omnipotent! Jesus doesn't know the hour! And by himself he can do nothing!
So who defines that "word" in the above verse is Jesus?

They're many "logos" in the new testament but Trinitarians capitalised the few they want to Jesus!

John 1:14:
"And the Word was made flesh, and dwelled among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, ) full of grace and truth."


It pains you that it is as explicit as this

Col 1:15-18:
"Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence."

Heb 1:1-3:
"God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, Has in these last days spoken to us by his Son, whom he has appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:"
Religion / Re: Jesus: The Way, The Truth And The Life by NairaLTQ: 9:14am On Sep 25, 2023
AntiChristian:


If it's my friend of course taking poison is haram!
But if it's a Christian I will show him Mark 16:17-18, so that we may test if he believes in what he professes!

And these signs will accompany those who believe: In My name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues; they will pick up snakes with their hands, and if they drink any deadly poison, it will not harm them; they will lay their hands on the sick, and they will be made well.”
You would just tell him Haram and move on!?

You must be very wicked at heart.


Even if your enemy is cooking poisonous mushroom to eat, your humanity should warn him except that by killing them you are actually doing the work of stealing, killing and destruction as assigned by Allah.

Qur'an 2:216
Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But God knoweth, and ye know not..


Qur'an 9:5
And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.

How is this different from Armed Robbery?
Religion / Re: Jesus: The Way, The Truth And The Life by NairaLTQ: 9:02am On Sep 25, 2023
AntiChristian:


You're more ignorant!

Jesus can't save himself.


John 10:17:
"Therefore does my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again."


AntiChristian:

He is not omniscient!

He said it himself truly!
But the Word is Omniscient and Omnipotent and Omnipresent!
John 1:1-5:
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men. And the light shines in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not."

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