Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 12:24pm On Oct 12, 2016 |
Henrydone: All I see is brown roofs,Nigeria has tripled livable cities than Kenya
Port-harcourt Unlike the rusty roofs of Ibadan below, Nakuru's roofs are actually brown clay tiles and not rust. Compare them with Ibadan below.
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 12:16pm On Oct 12, 2016 |
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 12:14pm On Oct 12, 2016 |
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 12:09pm On Oct 12, 2016 |
Henrydone: Excluding Nairobi and Mombasa none of your city is as decent as Kano
Kano Nakuru
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 12:00pm On Oct 12, 2016 |
naijalander: what is your proof that the rest of them are not liveable?
Do people not reside in these cities?
And yes they are industrialized, leave sentiments aside. Their livability index is low. Those people are surviving in them. You clearly don't understand the definition of an industrialized city. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 11:45am On Oct 12, 2016 |
naijalander: Ibadan
Port Harcourt
Calabar
Kano
Kaduna
Aba
Onitsha
Enugu
These are all industrialized cities. Their produce cannot compete in a global market but they are slowly getting there. I was talking about an earlier post he posted buddy. Stop being subjective - anyone can say any city is industrialized - what matters is to what extend and how livable that city is so naming every other city and making those claims is irrelevant. As far as I know, the only city with decent livability amongst those you mentioned is Enugu and Calabar. The others are crap. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 11:18am On Oct 12, 2016 |
Henrydone: Pardon me,but Abuja ranked 3rd,Ibadan ranked 6th,and port-harcourt ranked 8th.As for Kenya cities Nairobi came 4th,Mombasa 9th,and Kumasi was the least among the list so what's up  Kisumu, not Kumasi. For Nigeria to be on the same level of Kenya you must do things four times better than us since you have four times our population. Nigerian should have four times more cities than Kenya on that list to be on the same level |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 10:38am On Oct 12, 2016 |
Henrydone: Cc city's with highest purchasing power (consumer spending). 3 Nigeria city 1 Kenya city It is sad when youcan't make sense of your own posts. The photo shows 3 Kenyan cities and 3 Nigerian cities. Considering Nigeria has four times Kenya's population, I'll take that to be a mega win to the Kenyans. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 9:23am On Oct 12, 2016 |
naijalander: Yes Wangari Mathai and guess what,[b] your politicians showed her very little respect [/b]until she died.
And Lagos does maintain a certain level of greenery with many parks. Muri Okunola Park, Abiola Gardens just to name a few. These are not excuses, they are facts. Of cause our politicians are shitty just like your politicians in Nigeria. Anybody who opposes their greed and corruption can never be their favorite. But at least you've observed how we fight for our trees despite this. Can Lagosians demonstrate to have more trees in Lagos? |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 9:17am On Oct 12, 2016 |
naijalander: No my outlook is based on 10 years residence in Kenya. The things I've seen. I know you've lived in Kenya for long. Good for you. I have traveled to a number of African countries but never stayed for long, just a few days. One thing I noticed though, on arrival of a visitor - they normally have very positive views of their hosts. With time however, visitors tend to start looking down upon their hosts. I don't know why but it's something I have observed everywhere I travel. Even when the hosts' country is far much better than the visitors (Don't misunderstand me, I am in no way insinuating Kenya is better than Nigeria), the visitors somehow start looking down upon their hosts. I think it is mostly due to the fact that with time one gets to observe the weaknesses of their hosts and this breeds some contempt. It is normal for humans to notice the negatives more than the positives. Here in Kenya for example we host several people from our neighboring countries that are in complete shambles and shitty to say the least (the Sudanese and Somalis mostly). One thing I notice is at arrival, these guys are very positive and thankful of Kenyans but a few years later they become so viliful and will talk about their countries as some form of paradise while always talking about what is wrong with Kenya (tribalism, bad politics, poverty etc) despite the fact that their countries are a hundred times worse of. I went to school with some Southern Sudanese and the way they talked about Kenya and compared it with SS you would think SS is some paradise. Same thing with Somalis (from Somalia, not Kenyan Somalis) whom I schooled with................and not just here in Kenya, it only takes a few years before Africans living in the US start looking down upon Black Americans. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 9:07am On Oct 12, 2016 |
naijalander: Ok maybe Lagos is not as green as it used to be but the comparison to Nairobi green can still be made. Keep in mind the parks are coming down soon due to real estate development. There have been demonstrations in Nairobi recently to prevent this. It comes with urbanization, only shows Lagos is more urbanized than Nairobi. It is not urbanization buddy, it is City planning. I wonder what you mean by "being more urbanized" - the most developed cities in the world all maintain greenery - look at Paris, Frankfurt, Johannesburg, Los Angeles (even though it's in a desert), Shanghai, Seoul etc. Stop making excuses when you're beaten hands down. Trees are good for a city and saying Lagos is too urbanized to have trees is outright retarded. Yes - unlike Nigerians, Kenyans fight to maintain greenery in their cities and even one Kenyan earned a Nobel Prize for that. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 9:03am On Oct 12, 2016 |
naijalander: oh please, the world depends on the corruption of our leaders.
Do you even realize how many countries in the sub sahara can be self sufficient if they had good leadership.
A sleeping giant that still manages to out do many sounds dominant to me. All of Africa underperfoms and that's something to be ashamed of not proud of. I wonder why you're forcing us to find Nigeria as an amazing special case. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 8:58am On Oct 12, 2016 |
naijalander: You do realize that SW Nigeria is dominated by thick rain forests right?? so it make no sense to compare the green to yours. Are we talking about cities and how they maintain their landscapes or thick forests in rural areas? DRC has 90% of Africa's Rainforests but Kinshasa is nowhere close to being as green as Nairobi. A Rainforest is a natural thing, city landscaping is dependent on people living in it and how they value trees and environment. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 8:55am On Oct 12, 2016 |
naijalander: Divorces based on tribal sentiment is more common in Kenya than in Nigeria. In fact I can't remember the last time a Yoruba dude left an Igbo girl cos she's Igbo, Luos seem to do that a lot due to family pressure and vice versa. See what Fidel Odinga did, GOD rest his soul. Did Fidel Odinga divorce his wife because she is Kikuyu? How many Kikuyus divorce fellow Kikuyus here? How many Luos divorce fellow Luos here? Dude, you you live in Kenya but still have no idea how interethnic marriages are common here. It is also interesting that you've focused so much on ethnicities of your hosts. Says a lot about your thinking and where you come from. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 8:51am On Oct 12, 2016 |
naijalander: Your entire outlook of Nigeria is based on what you read on Nairaland (which is the most tribalistic forum in Africa). Why won't you think Nigeria is on the verge of breaking up. Do you see any mainstream politician calling for Nigeria to break up ?? Says somebody whose entire outlook of Kenya is based on a Luo guy divorcing his Kikuyu wife. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 8:49am On Oct 12, 2016 |
naijalander: This is a myth further propagated by the importation cabals, you can never understand Nigeria the way I do so give up ok!
I see green, do you not?? Can you compare THAT greenery with THIS greenery?
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 8:38am On Oct 12, 2016 |
naijalander: Oga did I tell you there is no ethnocentrism in Nigeria. Africa is rife with tribalism, that is the reality we have to deal with but yours in Kenya is on another level entirely. When was the last time the idiots in Western Kenyan peacefully demonstrated like this?? It would be stone throwing and shop looting instead. Get your facts right. Also look below for more recent photos on Nigeria, the page as an album of Kenya too.
https://www.facebook.com/184441788339741/photos/?tab=album&album_id=868867736563806 Those demonstrations don't involve carrying banners that ask other communities to leave their land. Again, somebody posted a photo of Nigerians throwing stones looting and burning stuff yet you rubbished it as a little thing. I guess it's only a big thing when it happens in Kenya. Your country is at the moment on the verge of breaking up along ethnic lines and you are here convincing us how peaceful you are and how less ethnocentric you are. pity. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 8:33am On Oct 12, 2016 |
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 8:32am On Oct 12, 2016 |
naijalander: I apologize for my earlier assertions and insults to the people of Kenya.
To be quite objective, my views about Nigeria being a sleeping giant remains. Thank you............. About the sleeping giant part, I could as well walk up to a European and tell them Africa is a sleeping giant. That doesn't make Africa in anyway dominant in the world. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 8:30am On Oct 12, 2016 |
naijalander: I know these stories and the conflict was not based on ethnicity! do you research!
Just because they wrote "thugs of Yoruba origin" does not mean the attack was based on tribe.
My girlfriend's mother is an Hausa lady, do you know how much inter marriages are common in Nigeria??
How many stories do we hear of Luos leaving their Kikuyu wives?? ..........and how many stories do you hear of Lous remaining with their Kikuyu wives? Divorces happen everywhere buddy even within same ethnicities. You are getting pathetic. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 8:25am On Oct 12, 2016 |
naijalander: Lagos is a much more beautiful city than Nairobi so don't even compare. I had resisted posting pictures because I find it rather corny posting pictures when you have slums surrounding the beauty. This is what you have so far refused to admit. How can you say Lagos would be lucky to have estates matching Runda? are you high on shashamani weed
https://www.nairaland.com/1988279/10-unbelievable-photos-lagos-mistake
Even the most recent project, Eko Atlantic City cannot be compared to what you have in Nairobi. Lagos has the longest bridge in Africa, the Third Mainland Bridge and you saying it will be lucky to have estates like Runda, what is Runda compared to Banana Island? Banana Island houses the richest black folks on the planet!
https://www.nairaland.com/4234/pictures-lagos-skyline-city-scape/10
These pictures are old by the way. Lagos more beautiful than Nairobi? Lol, you must be out of your mind. I have been to Lagos btw and the only thing Lagos beats Nairobi on is size. You can NEVER find an estate well organized and landscaped like Runda in Lagos, NEVER. Lagos might have mansions but they are normally surrounded by thick high walls and the whole compound made of Cabro stones - I wonder who told Nigerians that makes an estate beautiful . No trees no landscapes. In Nairobi there are many well planned estates and neighborhoods that you won't find in Lagos. You are dreaming bro. Cut the patriotism and compare those threads you posted with this one below of Nairobi and make an honest opinion. The airports alone start telling the stories of these two cities. https://www.nairaland.com/51356/nairobi-photos-kenya-beautiful-east/179 |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 8:20am On Oct 12, 2016 |
naijalander: what riots on the streets of Lagos. Ask any Igbo guy meet if he has ever been threatened with eviction.
The Oba of Lagos made a joke about drowning them in the ocean last election if they did not vote the ruling party of Lagos state, that is about as ethnocentric things get in Lagos. We don't have tribal riots in Nigeria bro, where exactly did you get this info? am curious to know... naijalander: It is not a stereo type to say Kenyans are ethnocentric in their thinking because you clearly see it every where you go. I can't remember the last time main stream politicians in Nigeria made violent comments of killing their opposition based on tribe, that rubbish only happens in Kenya. If it does in Nigeria, said person would not garner any votes. Politicians leave the ethnocentric stuff for uneducated or misguided Nigerians. Dude, you are either one ignorant person or overly patriotic - just because Kenyan media is obsessed with politics and will report when some politicians wife doesn't know how to cook (something that many right thinking Kenyans are ashamed of) doesn't mean the rest of Africa is clean with no ethnocentric politics. As bad as Kenya is, you wont find demonstrations like these happening anywhere in Kenya. I hope you're not going to tell me to stop trusting photos and travel to Nigeria to see for myself again. 
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 12:20pm On Oct 11, 2016 |
naijalander: I don't hate Kenya or Kenyans.
I just think y'all clearly have issues. Honestly it is easy of make these claims about Nigeria but until you actually live and breathe there, you cannot understand why they call it the giant of the continent. A lot of black nationalities live there and assimilate quite easily without any form of discrimination. In Kenya, you guys are so ethnocentric, Nigeria's ethnocentrism is restricted to online debates, in reality, you rarely hear of one person attacking another based on tribal sentiments.
I also despise the generalization. To Kenyan, every Nigerian deals drugs, every Nigerian is a comedian, in the midst of all that, its hard to not express hate. So have you been discriminated in Kenya? And no...............we don't think every Nigerian does drugs but we might think a Nigeriam does drugs when he keeps on complaining whenever Kenya deports a Nigerian drug dealer.............and NO - your ethnocentric-ism is not limited to online debates. I know in Kenya we still have this ethnocentrism problem but saying it is better in Nigeria is clearly stupid. Yorubas riot in the streets of Lagos demanding Igbos to go back to their homeland all the time. There is frequent looting on non-resident ethnicicities property in Nigeria all the time. The things that happens in Nigeria due to ethnicity could make Kenya's situation look like child's play. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 9:13am On Oct 11, 2016 |
naijalander: Google ECoMOg and stop making a fool of yourself. If a Kenyan took part, it was part of the UN peace keeping force, the offensive was by ECoMOG forces. Dude...............all the stupid things you boast of almost all African Countries have done. Liberia and Sierra Leone are West African countries - West African countries will do more to help than East African just like we do more to help Somalia and SS than you. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 8:15am On Oct 11, 2016 |
naijalander: Another lie, Safaricom is a subsidiary of Vodacom, MTN too is. Vodafone owns 40%, your treasury owns just 35%. Putting false numbers together. Desperate much? Don't forget Airtel and Etisalat are not wholly foreign owned. Glo is probably worth more than Safaricom also. Isn't that exactly what he said? Dude, it seems that you only argue for the sake of it. You are not interested in understanding things but just arguing. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 8:12am On Oct 11, 2016 |
naijalander: So you decided Ibadan is a slum from a satellite image wow. Genius. Is the satellite image showing wrong stuff? Is it showing unpaved roads and rusty iron sheets when the place actually has well paved roads and clay tiled mansions? Please educate me. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 7:57am On Oct 11, 2016 |
naijalander: I know most car sellers sell on credit based on credit worthiness, it is big business in Kenya, what is generalising there??
When one presents facts about your country's crap, you find it hard to admit it, who is ignorant here? You realize Kenya having more credit facilities than Nigeria is a plus on the Kenyan side do you? And you also realize those creditors too are Kenyan do you? Unless Kenya is falling into external dept, this is a very healthy economy. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 12:17pm On Oct 10, 2016 |
naijalander: Raise which revenue? keep dreaming, keep borrowing from the IMF and World Bank, let your children inherit debt.
Most Kenyans live on debt, mortgaged houses, leased cars, etc. Your economy is debt based. Nigerians on the other hand buy and fully own, very few borrow from banks, it is sad that most Nigerians have no access to small scale loans other wise we won't even be having this convo. Now you know the bank accounts of all Kenyans? Ignorance can be forgiven but when it's coupled with a know it all attitude and generalizations then it's a pity |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 12:15pm On Oct 10, 2016 |
naijalander: Now you are just begging to be insulted.
Nigeria's army has the most versatile land force there is in the sub sahara, with conflict experience as far as South Sudan helping the UN during the Darfur crisis. Ended 2 civil wars (Sierra Leone and Liberia), Angola Civil War experience too.
Honestly you are not arguing any more, you are just hating. Kenya took part in all those wars you mentioned. (a cousin of mine is actual a Sierra Leone war veteran). I wonder how on earth things that countries as poor and tiny as Burundi do all the time makes you think Nigeria is King when you do them. If you've been in Kenya long enough perhaps you've heard of the saying "Maji ya kifuu bahari ya chungu" - a pebble of water is an ocean to an ant. The things you seem to find great are so ordinary to the rest of us. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 12:11pm On Oct 10, 2016 |
naijalander: For the gazillionth time, no one wants to dominate you, we just do our thing. For the zillionth time stop contradicting yourself. You can simply apologize for your earlier assertions if you wish to have a change of mind and we'll be fine. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 12:01pm On Oct 10, 2016 |
naijalander: OMG don't let anybody hear that.
Nairobi got its first high way; Thika Rd in 2012 and you wanna compare.
You disappoint me bro
Ibadan would be compared to Nairobi any time.
Do you realize Ibadan is much bigger than Nairobi in land mass ??
I grew up in Lagos, Lagos is stretched on the coast and even borrows land from Ibadan.
Ibadan has many Rundas, how can you say that and you have never been there
Keep depending on the pictures you see and don't travel to see for yourself.
wewe ni mfala! I have traveled to Lagos, never been to Ibadan but I am informed bro...............land area is of no importance, stop lying to us. I can see on google maps almost 99% of Ibadan is shitty. Telling me a Runda can be found in Ibadan is being disrespectful to Runda. Maybe South B. See, look at google images - a random google image of Nakuru is better than anywhere in Ibadan, I am actually going through google maps to find a decent place in Ibadan but it's all in vain. Below is the most decent image of Ibadan I found.........below it is an image of Runda. You can give us a better image if you think I'm beng unfair to Ibadan. You would honestly have to be a special kind of patriot to claim Ibadan has an equivalent of Runda. The first two are of the best image of Ibadan I got and the next two are of Runda.
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 11:43am On Oct 10, 2016 |
naijalander: give it time bro, Innoson will come eventually. Good to know you are enthusiastic about it and yes they now export to Benin Republic! Time Time Time..................now that in your latest posts you've become sane enough to talk of time and "we will" instead of "we are", can you now stop pushing down our throats the narrative that Nigeria dominates over Kenya and the rest of Africa? |