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Bishopkingsley:
Happy Monday good morning to you Nancy what happening in your area

Me, I am great, my area is cool. What is the faith of those who don't believe in Jesus. Those born in Muslim families,are they going to make heaven.

Are they still fighting, this early morning.

OkCornel:
I’m not even following sef, what’s your position on the bolded part?

Good morning okcornel

Bishopkingsley:
Thank you, like I said it not in my nature
Now

God the father is the manifestation of God


Even though God manifest as God the father, he let us know he is still God when he manifest in that nature

Hope you now understand it

Good morning Bishopkingsley

Bishopkingsley:
God bless you

Good that you ran out on time Bishopkingsley. Very nice of you. So back to the other issue. Tell me the difference between God and God the father, I think you mentioned it.

Let me address this issue that pop up here Bishopkingsley is it true that your Kingsnairaland and betscoreodds. BassReeves are you a gay and what did Daniel and Ezekiel see in heaven. Both of you are free not to answer my questions. Remember if any of you use derogatory words on me like you both use on each other. I won't hesitate to belittle that person here.

When I was in secondary school my friend said their family was going to take my parents house when Armageddon comes, that it was going to appear soon I was shocked because it was the first time I heard such doctrine. It is sad her parents are now dead and she finally saw the light and left JW. Once in a while she and I would joke about those times she believed in a Bubble doctrine from JW hell. Now she attends a good church where she hears about Jesus. It is just a question of time people will get tired of lies, she found out no organization can truly save you. Glory to our God Jesus.

BassReeves:
Luke 6:38
'Give, and it will be given to you:
good measure, pressed down, shaken together, and running over will be put into your bosom.
For with the same measure that you use, it will be measured back to you.”'

Bring a tablespoon, you get back in return a tablespoonful measure. Bring a cup, you get back in return a cupful measure. Bring a bowl, you get back in return a bowlful measure. Bring a bucket, you get back in return a bucketful measure. Bring a drum, you get back in return a drumful measure, Bring a tank, you get back in return a tankful measure.

We currently are all limited by whatever measure we bring forward.

It is having access to the Tree of Life that will enable man or woman to live forever

It would be a strange thing, if an Infinite GOD isn't strange to us. If we can fully understand GOD in all His nature, then He would cease from being GOD because GOD is beyond our limited, finite understanding of God and the mysteries of God

Sir am sorry to say this your are good in English but you don't know God and you don't know what you worship, eternity God placed in the heart of man shows God created the human spirit to be unlimited, which only an unlimited God can continue to fill. God is definitely not afraid to create human spirit to be unlimited. I know you are going to use English to abuse me for rejecting your un biblical idea I have looked for where you explained all the places God appeared not one explanation rather you divert those places that OkCornel points to, yes God appeared to Abraham in a strange way but he has not revealed his nature properly just like when he told some one by so and so name your fore father's did not know me, but you I will show this aspect to. If you abuse me here am not okcornel or Bishopkingsley I will abuse you till you run away.

Bishopkingsley:
Beautiful here is where the difference is Satan trinity is not in one being nature like God

That why we said God class no one like him in that realm

Satan own is different beings coming together as they come together they then form one mind in doing a special evil work

They copy God's methods and in Satan own each beings can do what the other one can do

Devil son which is the anti christ
Jesus calls him abomination

This things are serious matter and scarry too
That why you won't see many people preaching it it deep and knowing them is not a requirement for heaven lol

Wow OK this is the main difference, well it the will of God who are we to question God.

maximunimpact:
Before you laugh at some one's stupidity, first of all clear the stupidity in your eyes for giving your devotion to an ORGANISATION that LIES consistently

“Jehovah God is the Grand Identifier of his true messengers. He identifies them by making the messages he delivers through them come true. Jehovah is also the Great Exposer of false messengers. How does he expose them? He frustrates their signs and predictions. In this way he shows that they are self-appointed prognosticators, whose messages really spring from their own false reasoning – yes, their own fleshly thinking!” (Watchtower, 1997 May 1, pg. 8 ).

Isaiah 44:25
who foils the signs of false prophets and makes fools of diviners, who overthrows the learning of the wise and turns it into nonsense,

New Living Translation
I expose the false prophets as liars and make fools of fortune-tellers. I cause the wise to give bad advice, thus proving them to be fools.

It is in the Bible.

Bishopkingsley:
Revelation 20:10
King James Version
10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.


Read your Bible my friend
If Satan is the beast how come Bible said the beast and false prophet
was cast in the lake of fire first before devil/Satan was cast into it

And the Bible explains the different names of Satan, Satan is devil is lucifer is serpent is dragon

I see, so is the devil a whole being like God, then does he have the ability to manifest in three ways just like God.

maximunimpact:
How hard can it be to confirm from your Jw library

Smile, the confusion in their mind won't let them do research outside the organisation.

maximunimpact:
Incase anyone is wondering the contents of the attached Watchtower books and magazines below is a perfect examples of what you'll find


Will the men of Sodom be resurrected?

Watchtower 7/18/1879 p. 8 = Yes

Watchtower 6/1/1952 p. 338 = No

Watchtower78/1/1965 p. 47g = Yes

Watchtower7 6/1/1988 p. 31 = No

Live Forever (old edition ) p. 179 = Yes

Live Forever (new edition ) p. 179 = No

Insight, volume 2, p. 985 = Yes

Revelation book, p. 273 = No

Smile are you serious is this their answers (my lord)

Bishopkingsley:
Good now let go deeper

Why do you think Jesus had only male disciples

So as to keep all Righteousness, women made the first Adam to fall, the second Adam had to avoid any yoke from same women.

OkCornel:
Freewill of man and God’s omniscience aren’t contradictory.

Explain what you mean here does it mean God does not know what your free will will end up doing,.

Bishopkingsley:
You said Christian Dom That what jehova witness call us any way since you denied them

There are some things I don't surport in your view like God is formless nope rather God has no limits next God the make up of God using lay man language is God is trinity

Any other way God will appear will based on this holy spirit projecting God notice when God spirit fell on Jesus notice Bible said the holy spirit rest on him like a dove

So any other dimension that God will show himself will be the holy spirit doing it not another new manifestation..


Now on spirit of a man God said he placed eternity in man's heart that prove man spirit is equally infinite... Now If man spirit is finite then we can't stay with God in eternity because our spirit will receive God to the point of us having limit then we won't receive any more from him since our cup is full...

No...

That why we have our cup over flow.. Continues because of the eternity we can stay with him forever and he will continue to fill our eternal heart for all ages

You are free to believe otherwise

I knew we can never be finite because the Bible says as he is so are we and we are going to be like him when we see him face to face. It is possible for the spirit of a man to live forever. I think it also says the eyes of a person is never satisfied something like that.

BassReeves:
Please dont fall into the trap of labelling

There is only one church (i.e. Ekklesia) and many organised churches

God is denominational agnostic and denominational atheistic.

Thats right, eat the fish but spit out the bones

Colossians 2:9
'For in Him (i.e. Jesus Christ) dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily;'

God, is one, a single entity and not a trinity because God is infinite, He is infinity.

There is no where in the whole Bible, for that matter, OT or NT, that the word Trinity is mentioned. It doesn't mean the Trinity is not true or that it is not sensed or seen the Bible, but, the truth is that, its just a means to an end, meaning it isnt the end itself.

it is written in the holy book that this three are one. That where the trinity comes from, from what I see the infinite dimensions of God is the work of the holy spirit, yes God is infinite but he is made up of three distinct persons, our human spirit is infinite too, that is why the deep calls to the deep.

Bishopkingsley:
Well I believe in catholic and Pentecostalism
Basically any ministry that preach trinity as one being in three distinct persons

I don't limit myself to one area of church because God revealed to me he is every where just like he showed it the seven churches in revelation

you have really explained a lot. I have read a lot of this topic as a guest without logging in it is quite explicitly clear with the way you teach the trinity, because as you have said in some scripture chapters they seem as the same in another place you see they seem different. Which sometimes it quite confusing, now I know why God made it so.

maximunimpact:
OUR NEW TOPIC OF DISCUSSION HAVE ARRIVED!!!

Contradictions, Another Contradictions & more Contradictions


We are told to be witnesses in the New Testament, but not once are we referred to as Jehovah’s Witnesses. Why be called a name "given to you by God," only to change it three more times?

If God gave the JW's the name they now have, were the names they had before wrong?

If they had the wrong names before, what makes them so sure that they have the right name now?

How much does that speak to their credibility?

First Name: Zion’s Watchtower society 1884

Second Name: The People’s Pulpit Association 1909

Third Name: The International Bible Student’s Association 1914

Current name: Jehovah’s Witnesses 1931

Why were they without a name that they believe was divinely given to them for sixty years? Russell never came up with “Jehovah’s Witnesses,” it was a title that he never used or intended to.


Why is it that the teachings of Russell have slowly disappeared? As the founder of this group, shouldn’t he be a cornerstone for what is being taught?


Why isn’t anyone held accountable for the prophecies being spoken?


Why would I want to join a church that was born of lies and confusion? "For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints." I Corinthians 14:33


The Watchtower has the right to make these prophecies (all false so far), but when they claim to be God’s only voice on earth, their integrity is destroyed. Why should I believe them, when they have such a bad track record? Lies and suppression of facts are common in politics and business, but one expects to find honesty in those who claim to be speaking for God.

Old Light, New Light & Black Light


When the organization wrote prophecies in the Watchtower magazine that failed, they use the terminology of "new light" to explain it away.

The concept of New light is taken from Proverbs 4:18

“But the path of the just is as the shining light, that shineth more and more unto the perfect day.”

Typical of the JW's almost complete lack of Bible knowledge, this verse is not speaking about prophecy or direct revelation from God, but the righteous man's increasing ability to live a holier life with age and experience.

(i) New Light should not contradict Old Light, but it often does with Jehovah's Witnesses.

(ii) The fact that Jehovah's Witnesses actually swallow this "New Light" explanation from the organization when prophecies fail is the ultimate testimony of their blind faith in false human organizations.

(iii) We invite all new Jehovah's Witness converts to closely decide for themselves if "New light" adds to "Old Light" or flatly contradicts it.

Some examples of blinking lights:

Will the men of Sodom be resurrected?


Watchtower 7/18/1879 p. 8 = Yes

Watchtower 6/1/1952 p. 338 = No

Watchtower78/1/1965 p. 47g = Yes

Watchtower7 6/1/1988 p. 31 = No

Live Forever (old edition ) p. 179 = Yes

Live Forever (new edition ) p. 179 = No

Insight, volume 2, p. 985 = Yes

Revelation book, p. 273 = No

In light of the above, how can any sane individual trust this kind of ORGANISATION!

Comment your thoughts below.......

smile

From the knowledge I have with different types of people it is only the Jehovah's Witness that I noticed who still use Bible and still twist and pervert it, to the way they want, the whole of Bible is pointing to one person Jesus, but you see JW they point to the organization that is when you will know who they worship, it is easy to know where their God is that my little opinion

Bishopkingsley:
Let me tell you the truth about what God show me God told me the Bible is completely silent on whether father is/not Jesus or holy spirit..

All this distinct remarks we humans try to use Bible is completely silent on it

Because in one place you your self can see they are distinct

And on another place you see they are just the same

That why I will not open my mouth about saying they are the same or they are different

Bible is completely silent on this mystery

We can just show the place where he displays his different kinds of work

That my own revelation but one thing Bible shows he is one being

Doing this work this great thing

Now if you believe three of them are totally different beings

You are on your own and as you can see no part of the Bible that completely supports that claim

That why I keep showing you where cut off your claim


Hahahan hahaha

Let me look for another chapter that Wil knock your claim out

are you a penticostal pastor

kokomaster3d:
China doesnt use all these. They have their own social media sites.

their phones they sell won't have it in those places that what matters so it Will be a problem... Imagine you buy it but can't use those websites

BluntBoy:
AJ has cash and record.

I don't understand how any of you can think that this match was fixed.

I can't imagine how AJ who has self-pride would want to lose to a Ruiz in such an embarrassing manner for cash. We are talking about AJ the Landlord who was (until today) the most marketable boxer alive.

How would you even approach such an elite boxer to fix him to lose?

"Hey, AJ, I want to buy your belts. You have to lose to Fatboy Ruiz. Let him punish you and score 4 knockdowns against you. Let him disgrace you in front of the world."

Aj not worth 200 Mill... He can fix it for that price

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