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Dtruthspeaker:
It is unfair and unjust to goad me because I refuse to have unprofitable unending arguments with you.

You have already posited that you would never listen to all I have said, so there is no point in my continuing to say more.

I have heard you.

Dtruthspeaker:
Sis, I like to stick to the issue at hand and I only travelled a little further just to show you that you are wrong.

So this is a further trip I do not want to embark upon.

You have already believed what you want to believe as is in your power.

God knows I can never tell people to continue in sin so that grace will abound we are preaching God word he gives ability to live right once you understand this then you put your faith in him and draw strength from God

why are you running from that place. I thought you were the one who holds the revelation.
Are you afraid of
ROMANS 9:9-24

The only reason why you don't know this principles is because you never read that Romans part before now try to read it in simple English Bible like living translation or icb Bible to see what God is saying there.
You are free to run away because God shows his power in that verse God was so hard and direct there that only a fool read it and still boast.

Dtruthspeaker:
For saying this, you already prove that I had said The Truth, so my work is done, for your question was not about the Lambs Book of Life.



Did you not see the word "He who wins" in your Bible and "he who overcometh" in mine?.

Can a prostitute who has prostituted even this morning be said to have overcome or won whoring ?



So is it the Character of God's people to go awhoring, stealing, coveting, Lying, cheating, dealing fraudulently etc?

am waiting for you to explain
ROMANS 9:9-24

Dtruthspeaker:
You have used the magic word of refusal which is "I strongly believe".

There is nothing I can do about your beliefs and I do not intend doing anything to it.

If it is ok for you to believe that a Prostitute whose prostitutiion is as recent as this morning is covered by Christ simply because she believed in Christ last week, there is nothing I can do about that.

The only thing I can do is to that whenever you say so, I would always come to tell you, YOU ARE WRONG!



The Bible always says "I will blot out their names from the Book of Life."

It never says "I will put their names, in the Book of Life"

Deuteronomy 25:6
Verse Concepts
It shall be that the firstborn whom she bears

Deuteronomy 25:6, Deuteronomy 29:20

Revelation 3:5
He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life

Yes, God has already written the names of those who will be saved into the Lamb’s Book of Life. These individuals will enter heaven. Listen to Revelation 21.

And he carried me away in the Spirit to a great and high mountain, and showed me the holy city, Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, having the glory of God. Her brilliance was like a very costly stone, as a stone of crystal-clear jasper . . . And the city has no need of the sun or of the moon to shine upon it, for the glory of God has illumined it, and its lamp is the Lamb . . . and nothing unclean and no one who practices abomination and lying, shall ever come into it, but only those whose names are written in the Lamb’s book of life. (NASB) Revelation 21:10-11, 23, 27

Earlier in Revelation we are told that names were written in the Book of Life before the foundation of the world – before the beginning of time.

And all who dwell on the earth will worship him, everyone whose name has not been written from the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who has been slain. (NASB) Rev. 13:8

Those whose names are not written in the Book of Life will be sent to hell, and will then be thrown into the Lake of Fire.

And if anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire. (NASB) Revelation 20:15

Revelation 3:5
Did not say if you sin I will blot out your name read it well... Revelation 3:5
5 He who wins the victory will be dressed in white clothes like them. I will not take away or blot out his name from the book of life. I will say that he belongs to me before my Father and before his angels.

In this verse Jesus extends three promises to every faithful and chosen believer which has been chosen before the foundation of the world this faithful believer at Sardis. First, He will grant Him white garments. Roman officials customarily wore white clothing at religious festivals as symbols of high honor. White clothing that is given to the faithful represents not only honor but also purity and righteousness. Isaiah wrote, "I will greatly rejoice in the LORD; my soul shall exult in my God, for He has clothed me with the garments of salvation; He has covered me with the robe of righteousness" (Isaiah 61:10).

Second, Jesus promises that He will not blot the faithful believer's name out of the book of life.

While some individuals think this statement implies that a believer may lose His salvation, it simply means the conqueror—the "overcomer"—can be secure knowing their name will never be erased. Every born-again person has eternal life that will be His divinely given possession forever (John 5:24; 6:35–37, 6:39; 10:28–29; Romans 8:1).

Third, Jesus assures the faithful believer that He will confess His name before His Father and the angels. In a public ceremony in heaven, Jesus will acknowledge that these overcoming, enduring, faithful "conquerors" belong to Him.

2 Timothy 2:19 ►
New Living Translation
But God’s truth stands firm like a foundation stone with this inscription: “The LORD knows those who are his,” and “All who belong to the LORD must turn away from evil.”

God knows those that are his own before you came to the world.. Now God adding... and “All who belong to the LORD must turn away from evil.”.... Is to show them what they must do as his people and that is the characteristics of his people.

You did not show me where sin or judgment blot out names in book of life and where God said he wrote every one's name in that book of life only to remove it as one sins and break the law of God.

When people read ROMANS 9:9-24
They become humble and they accept that it is God who shows love first for it is not our own making that we get anything done

That why I want to see your so called wisdom from that place God clearly show humanity how he decides things so that you can't boast in his presence that it is because you obey God word that why you made it.

Dtruthspeaker:
You have used the magic word of refusal which is "I strongly believe".

There is nothing I can do about your beliefs and I do not intend doing anything to it.

Bible said without Jesus we can not do anything.
That why I want to see that thing you can do by yourself without God because that is the main thing we are talking here.
Bible even shows that the so called strength you have is not your own so Dtruthspeaker tell me the things you can do by yourself.


You have two choice to make it either you preach the right thing in ROMANS 9:9-24

or you continue to preach to people that they are the once who have power over themselves
That God has no say in where you end up.

Dtruthspeaker:
First, when you are born, your name is in the Book of Life.

Judgement is what Deletes (Strikes Out) your name from the Book of Life.

Secondly, "Does God know who will enter His Kingdom?" My Answers

1) Those He Already Sees Walking in the Paths of Life. A Person going to Lagos from Onitsha using Asaba-Benin-Ore-Lagos Road is reasonable foreseeable to get there than a person using Onitsha-Owerri-Aba-Ikot-ikpene Road.

2) A Just Judge does not Judge a Matter before He hears it Blessings or Curses, Promotion and Expulsion /Sackings; Praise and Dis-Honour/Disgrace DO NOT COME FROM FORE-SIGHT.

They all come from Just, Direct and UNFORESEEN Measurement of Person or a Matter.

I strongly believe The Lord Jesus Christ proclaimed, “I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand” (John 10:28–29b). Salvation is God’s work, not ours (Titus 3:5), and it is His power that keeps us.
But I will like to know your views to see if what you say is in the Bible or from your own mind.

But Kindly show me this place in Bible since you say ....... First, when you are born, your name is in the Book of Life.
Judgement is what Deletes (Strikes Out) your name from the Book of Life..... Show me where it is written in the Bible?

ROMANS 9 from 9 to 24 this place humbles every human being on earth but I will want to see your pride from this place so,
Next read ROMANS 9 from 9 to 24 very carefully
Because i will ask you many questions from that verse many times.
Now let me ask you again are you the one to decide to make heaven own your own God given power as you said or is it God who will decide to show mercy on you without first using the condition of any good or bad things you have done ?

Dtruthspeaker:
Then you did not appreciate Verse 3 which told of whom you are and what you have done.

For we ourselves also were sometimes foolish, DISOBEDIENT, deceived, serving divers lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful, and hating one another

Are this not offences which contravene The Law?

So by verse 5 the word "washing", what does washing do?

Answer= To make clean.

When you are washed do you not know?

Answer= Exactly like taking a good bath, you surely know if you are Clean, but when you did not get a good bath you, did you not know that you still required a bath? Yes you did.

Now after having a good bath and you are clean, do you still return to the filth you came from? You judge yourself here.

Any who returns to those filth, shall such not be Disobeying The Law?

And on the other hand, any who is clean and returneth not to his filth, shall such not be obeying The Law?



Consider this, an adulteress and LovePeddler who gives alms, tithes and preaches which you would call righteous, shall such a one be acceptable unto God?

Adam who Loved (righteous work) his wife and disobeyed God did was still found guilty of breaking The Law. Same as King Saul, Ananias and Saphira, they even clearly did righteousness in front of the disciples, yet they broke The Law and we're FOUND GUILTY!

Righteousness Always ends when you break The Law!.

And thank God the case of Ananias and Sapphira took place even in the very presence of the disciples of Christ wherein you people have fabricated the Lie "Christ has died for me, so I am saved from breaking The Law not be punished"

As Surely as Ananias and Sapphira, you shall Surely be punished for your disobedience.

Ok but let me ask you do Almighty God know those who will go to heaven or does he know those whose names are written in the book of life before they were born?

Dtruthspeaker:
Please referral let me directly look at it once more to remember what it said.

Titus 3:5
New International Version
he saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy. He saved us through the washing of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit,

New Living Translation
he saved us, not because of the righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy. He washed away our sins, giving us a new birth and new life through the Holy Spirit.

English Standard Version
he saved us, not because of works done by us in righteousness, but according to his own mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit,

Berean Study Bible
He saved us, not by the righteous deeds we had done, but according to His mercy, through the washing of new birth and renewal by the Holy Spirit.

Berean Literal Bible
He saved us, not by works in righteousness that we did, but according to His mercy, through the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit,

King James Bible
Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

Dtruthspeaker:
Now you are the one who introduced "Power"and not i.

And what did The Law Say about Power?

Law 1= You shall Love and Serve the LORD thy God with ALL thine heart, and with ALL thy soul, and WITH ALL THY MIGHT"

After "ALL OUR ALLS" God promised to help us. BUT THIS HELP ONLY COMES AFTER OUR "ALL".

The Law never said "I will help you then you will keep The Law".

It said Exodus 19:5
"If ye will obey my Voice Indeed and Keep my Covenant, "THEN", ye shall...

The word is "Then"!

And then always means something happened earlier.

And what happened earlier?

We were commanded to Obey First!

so the place in New testaments that says he saved us not because of us keeping the laws but because of love.
What do you think about this.

Dtruthspeaker:
No!

Only by By Obeying The Law.

It is after all The Same Law that will Judge you.

And what is The Law going to Judge Upon?

Answer! The Law!

But Liars who are no where near The Court and Judge are telling you that you would be "saved".

They do not even have a Court nor have they ever been appointed Judge, yet they tell you that "you would be saved".

Whereas The Law has clearly said it shall Condemn All who Disobey and Break it.

Well we were warned that Liars and blasphemers would come.

So I can obey God laws with only my power and I don't need God power to obey God laws.

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Angela4life:
Please my fellow people all over Africa and the rest of the world do not let anybody deceived you or fall for any false, fake information and write-ups which some corrupt staff of Nairaland that has being brided by oyedepo and his church board members are putting on top of any post about oyedepo in Nairaland saying that Ghana court handed over a church back to oyedepo that information is a lie and fake generated by oyedepo as part of his manipulations to decieve people here.

The church in question is at Aveno, along the road leading to Circle junction opposite O.A second motor station not too far from Christ Embassy church Avenor Accra Ghana.

So we know the church quite well and many of us are also whorshiping and visiting the church so we know what we are saying.

So please the people that are being bribed in Nairaland company to be placing false information ontop of any post about oyedepo shame on you and you better stop that or you will receive your own reward of encouraging evil, lies and manipulations from God.

For oyedepo his witchcraft does not reach that level and there is nothing he can do about it.

That one is gone for Good and if he does not stop manipulating, intimdating and wrecking the lives of innocent people he will soon loose everything including his life.

you said that one is gone for good meaning they stole it and it gone my goodness.
This is not fair and you know it.
God will take a stand and at the end you will know no one can steal from the Holy Spirit.

MaxInDHouse:
No more likes!

I can see Bishopkingsley in the background so your lies are not hidden!

Well goodbye!

fool yourself I know you are going to end up running from me you think calling me by a man's name will make me stop abusing you, are you not useless to your friends, oh you are a pig trying to avoid me, but you can't as long as you tag me I will render you useless.

MaxInDHouse:
Bishopkingsley!

pig tell me what my business with what people think as long as you tag me I will insult you to all your generation foooooooooolish pig.

MaxInDHouse:
BishopKingsley!

fool yourself I know you are going to end up running from me you think calling me by a man's name will make me stop abusing you, are you not useless to your friends, oh you are a pig trying to avoid me, but you can't as long as you tag me I will render you useless. .

MaxInDHouse:
Let me guess those liking your abusive speeches!
Mr Bishopkingsley
Mr Betscoreodds
Mr Kingsnairaland

Now it's supposed to be four likes, so it's either GardenofGod is not at home with you there or you've forgotten that you still have the fifth account to complete four likes for this delightful expression!

it is so sweet to you when a lady chats with you that why you abandoned your wife because she won't talk with you at home but it good I feel sorry for you because you are a goat an irresponsible pig idiot since you get high from my abuse take it to your wife and tell her am chatting with you rat.

MaxInDHouse:
Everyone can SEE that you're not Bishopkingsley!

pig tell me what my business with what people think as long as you tag me I will insult you to all your generation foooooooooolish pig.

MaxInDHouse:
Hypocrisy at it's peak!
Who has been the one boiling with aggression?

idiot foooool have you run away from me I told you I will put you in your place in a bad spot animal.

MaxInDHouse:
Continue in your childishness!

stupid foooooooooolish idiot that have no sense.

MaxInDHouse:
This is becoming interesting, RESURRECTION of Betscoreodds!

crazy fooooolish fooool who is that probably your crazy mind the fooooooooolish animal is speaking I know you love the way I insult you that is what you will get when you tag me in your dead mind maddness must run in your family as I see.

MaxInDHouse:
No wahala, i was talking to my own brother!

useless fool you are talking to your brother and you tag my name on the list are you not a fool. You are useless in this life. Madness is on you that why you have the gut to tag my name on the list after I warned you. I will cure your madness with my abusive words then you will know am not Bishopkingsley that forgives you when you shit on yourself. Animal foooooooolish fool

Nuttella:
I was arguing with a jehovah witness guy sometimes last month, he opposed some certain doctrines, though he knew the scripture to an extent but not deep enough, I was able to help him understand the scripture he thought he knew, you need know the scripture to an extent before you argue with these people cause they can argue. Yes they study the scriptures but they don't have the real deep understanding, the rhema.

Maxindhouse do you have anything to say about this?

MaxInDHouse don't believe in the Jesus he refuse to worship Jesus even though it in the Bible where Jehovah told all angels to worship Jesus.

MaxInDHouse:
PRESENT a better performing group than JWs!

when will you understand Jesus himself is the group we are meant to belong to to follow forever wake up from yoke of GB lol.

MaxInDHouse:
In the final part of the days, The mountain of the house of Jehovah Will become firmly established above the top of the mountains, And it will be raised up above the hills, And to it peoples will stream! Micah 4:3

“You are the light of the world. A city cannot be hidden when located on a mountain. People light a lamp and set it, not under a basket, but on the lampstand, and it shines on all those in the house" Matthew 5:14-15

Jehovah's righteous standard must stand high up above all other religions, so from the East to the West, from the North to the South, the whole world must feel the impact of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 43:10-12; 54:17

that is not the way to interpret Bible. I will try to find what that place is referring to very soon.

achorladey:
My post really touched you mo ti ko wo bo yin lo fun lo mu yin so useless worthless hopeless and fruitless liar

Who are you?..... MaxInDHouse

I am an APOOOOOOOOOOOSTATE you should KNOW better(APOSTATE ALERT you remember) no answer beats that

What is the name of your Church?

JEHOVAH’S APOSTATE ORGANIZATION

You need to learn abi, I have answered here is a reminder below.........

1. Start discussions..............2. Go to insult.........3. Accuse others of insult..........4. Start repeating we are the only better performing group............5. Continue to repeat they are ashamed of their church........... 6. Stop chatting or discussion..........7. Comeback and say let's talk or discuss without insult........... 1. start discussion again and repeat the process continuously in the same order

He wants to start another discussion with APOSTATE and later head towards insult and abuse.

To follow Jesus wahala to follow your religious leaders paapaa wahala.

Are you allowed to speak with APOSTATES? Do you want to start taking poisons I give you or willing to eat with me from REFUSE DUMP according to your religious leaders?

why are JW hall window so high up.

Nuttella:
Another hyper grace preacher spotted, once saved forever saved preaching.

what the difference between hyper grace and grace.

achorladey:
The same Max and his likes have went ahead to call others demon possessed but when served the same dose, the scriptures that point to where Jesus is called demon possessed becomes their scripture of choice to use as instant response.

They want to have that feel good effect that they are the only ones being persecuted and the victim of being "TRUE CHRISTIANS".

that is why I served him hot plate of food to eat.
Once you hit MaxInDHouse with a strong hand he becomes humble and start to develop sense you will immediately see him quoting scriptures to defend himself and to consol his misery lol.
You know this bunch of JW fools perfectly.

Janosky:
Nancy2020 is another name for Bishop LIENUS.

I have heard you.

achorladey:
See him play the VICTIM card once more like he always does.
Awon follower of Jehovah abi na Jesus or deputy Jesus paapaa

Trying to compare himself with Jesus since they call JESUS lunatic When he call others LUNATIC or WERE ALASO, ASINWIN his military intelligence won't compare those ones with JESUS then.


19 The Jews who heard these words were again divided. 20 Many of them said, “He is demon-possessed and raving mad. Why listen to him?

Whenever he got served with the same dose he runs straight to compare himself with Jesus.

exactly

Go to catholic five am on Saturday
Carry one gallon of water after mass the priest will pray on the water and anoint them drink it and drop it on the spot of the cancer and watch it die in few days. Jesus will accomplish his Word.

MaxInDHouse:
Bishopkingsley, stop fooling around my thread with your disguised account!

no matter what you say you can't turn me to a man or force me to become Bishopking, so you have to find another method.

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Bishopkingsley:
My beloved brother there are many things in the old testament Bible that Jesus dropped many many things

But in Matthew (5:38-42) in the New Testament, Jesus repudiates even that notion. "Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other


Before you can slap who slaps you Jesus said his own Is not like that before you can use animals to make sacrifice in the altar Jesus said his own is not like that his own is his body will be the sacrifice once and for all before you can look at a naked woman Jesus said his own look and touch is both a sin

In fact Jesus turn everything upside down to the extent they vow to kill him which is actually the plan of Jehovah his life for an exchange to redeem us, before it only few people who had access to Jehovah but Jesus said no he wants every one to know him face to face personally

So many things were dropped to the extent the children of Israel where astonished for they said no man ever spoke like this with so much power and truth is this not the messiah do the leaders know that this is the man we have been waiting for thousands of years

Jehovah already made a vow that he was going to bring a new covenant and which means a new covenant Bible not the same Bible or covenant their father had this one was the one to be used from now to everlasting life and this new man name will be the name that will rain he will be the everlasting father for that new generation for that new earth

It all planed by God JEHOVAH if you don't have the son you don't have life it as simple as ABCD

he who receives Jesus receives the one who sent Jesus I love that part too.